Experts believe entire Palos Verdes Peninsula may be at risk after recent landslide

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Жыл бұрын

Jasmine Viel reports from Rolling Hills Estates, where experts are now expressing concern over the entire Palos Verdes Peninsula after the recent landslide, which completely destroyed a dozen homes and has placed many more at risk.

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@Mike-cv9rr
@Mike-cv9rr Жыл бұрын
Are you telling me if you build a building on a cliff it may slide off? Unbelievable
@jacksek12
@jacksek12 Жыл бұрын
Yeah Just like declopers in the carolinas build in swamps and news homes get totally demolished in tropical storms and huricaines
@jaad9848
@jaad9848 Жыл бұрын
They already declared an "emergency" to free up federal and state funds to help them out.
@nottheone582
@nottheone582 Жыл бұрын
This is what happens when developers are more hungry for profits than ethics. They never should have been granted permits to build there. Bet there was corruption at city office as well
@markme4
@markme4 Жыл бұрын
​@@nottheone582So who's to blame? The city
@cardboardcrawlersrc8805
@cardboardcrawlersrc8805 Жыл бұрын
Thats what I’m thinking. Seems like the home owners should have done their due diligence
@loganpe427
@loganpe427 Жыл бұрын
That man is getting upset saying _"there should have been more warning."_ Of course, blame someone else but he bought a house built on the side of a giant ravine!
@mytwocents848
@mytwocents848 Жыл бұрын
I had the same reaction. Gotta have someone to blame rather than not using good common sense to buy or build a house in a precarious spot. PV Peninsula has been sliding for years1
@raybod1775
@raybod1775 Жыл бұрын
He probably didn’t pay extra money for right home insurance coverage.
@raulthepig5821
@raulthepig5821 Жыл бұрын
For many many years there has been plenty of warning. The home buyers just didn't pay attention to it.
@suzyfarnham3165
@suzyfarnham3165 Жыл бұрын
Most of the ones that went were built in the 1970's...so they have been there for decades? It isn't as thought they were JUST built? Personally I would never build on the side of a hill! Or a flood plain. Insurance companies are saying most of these people will not be covered? Imagine your life savings gone in a few days? Heartbreaking.
@billkaldem5099
@billkaldem5099 Жыл бұрын
Angry man upset that someone else should have warned them? Man. You bought the place without doing your own research of the area? It’s on you.
@patrickodea6500
@patrickodea6500 Жыл бұрын
I'm from CA, and I have always thought as a kid that it's stupid to build homes on hills like this.
@kcoop9999
@kcoop9999 Жыл бұрын
I'm from IA, and we have he same kind of clueless people. They just can't seem to understand why their houses get flooded when they built on a floodplain. They are called river bottoms for a reason.
@yourewelcome192
@yourewelcome192 Жыл бұрын
Whenever I'm in the passenger's seat, I always marvel at the guy that just has to be in front of everyone else, on stilts, just hanging in mid-air, way over the edge. Amazing. And in California.
@PascaleLaurent81
@PascaleLaurent81 Жыл бұрын
On top of y’all dealing with earthquakes often. :/
@RSTI191
@RSTI191 Жыл бұрын
I always got a kick of the homes built on stilts on Coldwater Canyon in Los Angeles.
@yourewelcome192
@yourewelcome192 Жыл бұрын
@@RSTI191 Yea, me too! Hanging off the cliff. What amazes me, is that you don't hear of them falling down. Well, not yet, anyways.
@Molly_W
@Molly_W Жыл бұрын
I grew up in Southern California and it's been well known for many, many years how dicey and unstable these areas are. Why they allowed all these neighborhoods to be built up is beyond me.
@u4riahsc
@u4riahsc Жыл бұрын
I suspect $$$$$$$$$$$ has a lot to do with it.
@PSP92262
@PSP92262 Жыл бұрын
Developers are the greediest MFers on Earth.
@aphil4581
@aphil4581 Жыл бұрын
I bet there insurance is cheaper than mine in Florida!
@iyamwhatiyam547
@iyamwhatiyam547 Жыл бұрын
These are established communities. Rolling Hills Estates has been there for almost 70 years.
@MrDanielSolano007
@MrDanielSolano007 Жыл бұрын
Every time it rains, cities in the hills always end up slipping lol shout out to all the Mexicans working for these wealthy people trying to save their home
@unique2dou964
@unique2dou964 Жыл бұрын
Why were developers allowed to build there in the first place?
@johntuel2375
@johntuel2375 Жыл бұрын
The answer will always be "money"
@Novastar.SaberCombat
@Novastar.SaberCombat Жыл бұрын
Rich narcissists control everything. Well, that is, until things go wrong. Then, you have people like that pompous Yen yahoo blaming others on his decision to reside on a particular plot of land. 🙄
@josepha.r5839
@josepha.r5839 Жыл бұрын
Sadly, because lots of money is passed under the tables.
@dw3403
@dw3403 Жыл бұрын
big tax dollars on view homes.
@videotrexx
@videotrexx Жыл бұрын
$
@ZeroGravityLife
@ZeroGravityLife Жыл бұрын
Those poor rich people may have to move into their Palm Springs condos until they get this sorted out...
@jamesparker1071
@jamesparker1071 Жыл бұрын
🎯 they caused it.
@le_th_
@le_th_ Жыл бұрын
I can smell your pathological envy...and your inability to empathize is like a giant stamp across your forehead that reads, "I"M A NARCISSIST".
@mizzury54
@mizzury54 Жыл бұрын
I bet you're a compassionate conservative.
@patricialongo5870
@patricialongo5870 Жыл бұрын
Us poor people didn't have the option to build on a hill. But we definitely laugh and express outrage looking up at Hawaii's cliffs defiled and cut and made more dangerous by rich housing. And there's every reason to blame their cars for the climate change. I often wonder why we poor people never have an urge to remove the middle class and the comfort class from our environment.
@blownaway4371
@blownaway4371 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@efrenespinoza4513
@efrenespinoza4513 Жыл бұрын
Omg!! I never thought I’d see my geology professor from ten years ago on the news. Funny enough, I took “natural disasters” with him and we took a field trip to Portuguese Point to observe the massive risks related to land movement.
@kbrewski1
@kbrewski1 Жыл бұрын
Did you use that knowledge to tell the powers that be NOT TO BUILD ON THE EDGE OF A SOFT DIRT CLIFF??? You could have been a hero.
@efrenespinoza4513
@efrenespinoza4513 Жыл бұрын
@@kbrewski1 hilarious! The terrible part of it all is that they’ve been told for decades that this area is prone to land slides and WILL collapse. Granted, one of the most gorgeous places in the US but how arrogant of us to think that we can control a moving cliff.
@fairyprincess911
@fairyprincess911 Жыл бұрын
😎
@merriemisfit8406
@merriemisfit8406 Жыл бұрын
I was never a student at CSULB, but I DID recognize the professor's name when the reporter said it. I used to know a couple of the geoprofessors there, many long years ago. You do realize, correct?, that since you took that course you will not be able to claim ignorance should a clear and present geologic hazard do damage to your home. If you try to sue anybody over it, the judge will look at you sternly and tell you: "I see from your college transcript you took Dr. Onderdonk's class. You knew better than to buy that house. NEXT CASE!!"
@1-SmallStep
@1-SmallStep Жыл бұрын
In 1960, my parents were house hunting and looked at a home on Palos Verdes. I remember the view of being surrounded by nothing but ocean. It was beyond breathtaking. I was like "Dad! Get this house!" My dad said, "I'm not going to pay $23,000 for a house!"
@terriclark4255
@terriclark4255 Жыл бұрын
What site r u on? This is bout collapse of homes.
@RapturereadyforJesus
@RapturereadyforJesus Жыл бұрын
That is too funny!
@wokewokerman5280
@wokewokerman5280 Жыл бұрын
Was living there in 1966 with a view of Marine Land down below...great location on the terraced hill, beautiful
@1-SmallStep
@1-SmallStep Жыл бұрын
@@wokewokerman5280 Oh, how I miss Marineland! Went there in 1989, I think, and it had a closed sign. I was devastated. I still have my Bubbles the Whale book.
@1-SmallStep
@1-SmallStep Жыл бұрын
@@terriclark4255 It was on a flat, pretty solid looking lot for the location. The house was a 50s all brick with one and 1/2 bath, one car garage and three bedrooms. It was pink and black inside. That was uptown back then.
@Danioton
@Danioton Жыл бұрын
People who lived in Palo Verde 50 years ago told me that the big disadvantage is that the land is unstable. It's not like this was unknown. It's not 'fixable'.
@Jeanne90275
@Jeanne90275 Жыл бұрын
Uh, Palo Verde is in Riverside County, north of El Centro. NO Palos Verdes resident would confuse the two.
@suzyfarnham3165
@suzyfarnham3165 Жыл бұрын
@@johnskelton5683 Lol!! How will he do that Moot?? It is ground movement! He control weather now does he!???? I mean...he WAS going to nuke a hurricane!! OH...AND rake forests!! At least he gave the Prime Minster of Finland a laugh!😯😯🎃🎃
@johnskelton5683
@johnskelton5683 Жыл бұрын
@@Jeanne90275 Thanks for that corrective information. I'm not from SoCal, however, played ⛳ golf at the Trump International in Palos Verdes a lot and just love the course, Palos Verdes also, a truly beautiful place to see!
@johnskelton5683
@johnskelton5683 Жыл бұрын
@@suzyfarnham3165 I'm laughing reading your threads. I just love eliciting responses like yours. Oh 😳, may I say that I don't even play the fiddle 🎻, however, I played it well enough to trigger your TDS. Do you know what that is? I believe you don't but I'll tell you. You have, Trump Derangement Syndrome. (TDS) See a medical professional asap, a psychiatrist! They can help you to recognize when you're being played like a 🎻 fiddle, to recognize the fiddler when you see one or hear one. In your TDS response to self medicate, it was the written cords you read from my wonderful collection of Trumpian Music For The Soul, that you sort to have go away, to stop your mind from...!
@rosewoodsteel6656
@rosewoodsteel6656 Жыл бұрын
@@johnskelton5683 Biden can't even change his own Depends, so he'll be of no use.
@murrygondwana7260
@murrygondwana7260 Жыл бұрын
"someone dropped the ball" yes, you did when you bought the home.
@willbur508
@willbur508 Жыл бұрын
Right tell these durps
@donaldatherton319
@donaldatherton319 Жыл бұрын
Blame game
@mizzury54
@mizzury54 Жыл бұрын
Do you understand that he was talking about the timeframe of warning the residents to get out ? Of course you don't .
@checkoutmyyoutubepage
@checkoutmyyoutubepage Жыл бұрын
@@mizzury54how would you know? You didn’t see the same video we did?
@jeffdunn890
@jeffdunn890 Жыл бұрын
We have the same sort of issue on the Jersey shore. People built in flood prone areas near the ocean, and are then shocked when a hurricane floods everything and wipes out their homes...
@beerrox711
@beerrox711 Жыл бұрын
And us poors then have to bail them out via disaster relief… meanwhile the rich hate school bond measures and parcel taxes!
@noobie1890
@noobie1890 Жыл бұрын
Well you have to have flood insurance if you’re in a flood zone, and also most homes need to be raised about 20 feet.
@jeffdunn890
@jeffdunn890 Жыл бұрын
@@noobie1890 Correct, but more and more companies won't even cover you then. They just don't want to deal with it I guess.
@willvazquez3218
@willvazquez3218 Жыл бұрын
The blame goes to the city officials who gave permits to build on this land. A lot of palms were greased to make this happen. Geologists are on record warning of this since the 1950s. That's why most of the development in this area didn't happen til the 80's, when city and county officials finally were greased enough by land developers. This same thing has happened all over Florida, where most of the development is on swamp land. That's why there are so many canals and man-made lakes designed to control the water from swallowing back your house. The most dangerous of this development is on the coast where skyscrapers are built to the edge of the ocean. One day they may come down by erosion.
@ricknoyb1613
@ricknoyb1613 Жыл бұрын
1980's Reagan deregulation mind set. If only Republicans would remember regulations are there to protect people this country might move forward again.
@martybrink7916
@martybrink7916 Жыл бұрын
I lived in the South Bay area where Palos Verdes peninsula is located. I worked and played in Palos Verdes and Rolling Hills for many years. I dated a woman that lived in Palos Verdes Estates. Her pool was cracked in some locations. The lands up there are always moving. Portugese Bend has experienced landslides for many decades. It's an extremely beautiful place to live with views of the Pacific Ocean in some locations. But, i always wondered why building permits were issued in many places on the peninsula and why buyers of these homes were so damn naive. Do your homework, people.
@johnjriggsarchery2457
@johnjriggsarchery2457 Жыл бұрын
Because $$$
@cybervigilante
@cybervigilante Жыл бұрын
Permits are issued because developers have money and politicians have big pockets.
@peter-pg5yc
@peter-pg5yc Жыл бұрын
If i only had a brain..
@mackydog99
@mackydog99 Жыл бұрын
Greed! Money that they'll never recover.
@hansludwig4732
@hansludwig4732 Жыл бұрын
Rolling Hills? That says it already. Buy only at Steady Hills 🙏👍
@sharynwest2944
@sharynwest2944 Жыл бұрын
The Palos Verdes fault line runs directly underneath the Palos Verdes Peninsula, and though mostly underwater, it sits under places like Rancho Palos Verdes, Rolling Hills Estates and the Long Beach and Los Angeles Harbors. The nearly 70 mile line stretches from Dana Point to the Santa Monica Bay.
@l8dysyskeykisuke60
@l8dysyskeykisuke60 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelhaidee Yep and now it's up to the rest of the state to bail them out.
@babaoreally8220
@babaoreally8220 Жыл бұрын
So true,I lost my home on Mt Pinatubo.
@sgttim8617
@sgttim8617 Жыл бұрын
Well That makes a massive- " Ge-Shnuh ! " Time Frame Doesn't it !
@sgttim8617
@sgttim8617 Жыл бұрын
WOW...! That's Very Informative ! Seriously ! Thank you...
@victorhopper6774
@victorhopper6774 Жыл бұрын
rolling hills estates- hmm hw much more warning do you need
@tqmeone
@tqmeone Жыл бұрын
Anyone who has driven around Portuguese bend knows the road area that is constantly moving. Its POSTED as 5MPH in some areas because of road buckling and shifting. That's been going on for decades. Nice views of Catalina on a clear day but very risky to build a property on.
@jasonjackson5696
@jasonjackson5696 Жыл бұрын
I remember in the late 60’s (I was very young) riding by bike along PV Dr. South & the road was very unstable at that time. Clearly the road showed signs of a LOT of movement. We would stop and look out into the ocean and you could see this brown cloud in the water, which was part of the eroding hillside, hitting the water.
@1-SmallStep
@1-SmallStep Жыл бұрын
😳
@brianmclaughlin4419
@brianmclaughlin4419 Жыл бұрын
That's funny. You were looking at giant kelp beds. Some of us spent our time skindiving and spearfishing, and know what that is.
@jasonjackson5696
@jasonjackson5696 Жыл бұрын
@@brianmclaughlin4419 I know what kelp beds are, this was brown silt that began from the shore & fanned out about 50 yards at the most.
@kpizzlemynizzle922
@kpizzlemynizzle922 Жыл бұрын
Sorry to ALL affected. They do call them "rolling hills" for a reason! Its a geological process and doesn't stop for home owners.
@peter-pg5yc
@peter-pg5yc Жыл бұрын
but i bought a home there..
@wokewokerman5280
@wokewokerman5280 Жыл бұрын
maybe, but they'll collect insurance, the guy across the street is screwed.....
@SAMann729
@SAMann729 Жыл бұрын
If they even have insurance that covers that.
@celiaferreira2028
@celiaferreira2028 Жыл бұрын
Imagine, it'll roll off into the pacific ocean after an earthquake 😮🌊that's if the tsunami doesn't get it 1st. Rich people problems& this one is beyond silly (house on rolling hills) Ask SKIDROW HOMELESS of this issue. 😮
@wokewokerman5280
@wokewokerman5280 Жыл бұрын
@@celiaferreira2028 I asked them, they said it's a crack issue....
@Kushien
@Kushien Жыл бұрын
Experts have been saying this long before the landslide. ''This may have been preventable'' Yeah it's called choosing not to live somewhere that people have been saying for over two decades will have very active plate tectonic movement.
@frequentlycynical642
@frequentlycynical642 Жыл бұрын
Nothing to do with plate tectonics. It's about unstable soils.
@stevenmartin4889
@stevenmartin4889 Жыл бұрын
Serves the wealthy shits right for not listening.
@dw3403
@dw3403 Жыл бұрын
But the view was to die for. Right?
@mytwocents848
@mytwocents848 Жыл бұрын
@@frequentlycynical642 How about both?
@jeffgilligan2004
@jeffgilligan2004 Жыл бұрын
@@mytwocents848 - If there was movement of a plate it woud have been accompanied by an earthquake. When a large quake occurs though, the current problem will look minor in comparison regarding land slides.
@worldsedge4991
@worldsedge4991 Жыл бұрын
We once went house shopping in that area. One day we stopped at a listed unit. I got out of the car and looked over the gate at the side of the house. I felt like I was looking straight down the ravine at little roofs far below. I got a little dizzy. - We live in flat ol’ Torrance, now.
@jamesgibbs7933
@jamesgibbs7933 Жыл бұрын
I lived in L.A. for 60 years, and have seen many of these erosion episodes, and people lose their homes. No one thinks to check on the geological status BEFORE they put all their money into them.
@georgehill3087
@georgehill3087 11 ай бұрын
People do do research before hand. Just not these people who bought these houses.
@briannabrittany3127
@briannabrittany3127 Жыл бұрын
The locals are all aware that RPV is built on unstable ground. There is even one road, "Portugese Bend" that has signs posted reminding drivers the ground there is in constant motion and not to stop their cars. The road itself is very bumpy and uneven, and utility pipes are laid above ground because they can't be buried in that soil. This is not new news to the local residents. It's a risk they took but they were not uninformed.
@bbintheclouds
@bbintheclouds Жыл бұрын
Yes, been that way for year. I grew up around that area in the early 80's. I'm just surprised that this hasn't happened sooner. Too bad!😟💔
@rdlewis3616
@rdlewis3616 Жыл бұрын
Hilltop homes are wonderful, but I chose not to purchase one in another area because I was afraid of earthquake damage or total destruction of a home perched on a hill. And with increased rainfall and atmospheric rivers these hills will slide more often. It is part of the geological and weathering processes.
@josepha.r5839
@josepha.r5839 Жыл бұрын
"And with increased rainfall and atmospheric rivers .. " I follow long-term weather/climate prognosis and it seems the current El Niño will bring many, warm (Pineapple Express) storms to CA .. in particular to bottom half. If I lived on Palo Verde I would keep an eye out from Oct/Nov to Mar. 24.
@mytwocents848
@mytwocents848 Жыл бұрын
Also has always been prone to serious wildfires. I grew up in PV Estates in the 50s and 60'. We had to evacuate due to fires racing up those hills and canyons several times.
@Imbatmn57
@Imbatmn57 Жыл бұрын
Same reason im nervous about houses on stilts.
@johnl.5117
@johnl.5117 Жыл бұрын
As the old carney used to say: "Youse pays yer money and youse takes yer chances". Building on steep hillsides, in flood plains, on earthquake faults, or below dams is not a good plan for uninterrupted bliss.
@caroljnorton8099
@caroljnorton8099 Жыл бұрын
I have a friend and her family that live there! Pray they’re safe!!🙏🏻❤️
@mikem.8487
@mikem.8487 Жыл бұрын
It was 100 % preventable, They did not have to move there.
@celiaferreira2028
@celiaferreira2028 Жыл бұрын
This is the most intelligent thing said in this entire post thread!!! You sound more intelligent than the reporters, government. 😅❤
@robertsegura4659
@robertsegura4659 Жыл бұрын
Nothing lasts forever, the land is always changing 😊
@peter-pg5yc
@peter-pg5yc Жыл бұрын
especially ca..fires remove vegation then rains cause flooding, erosion..
@ronlanter6906
@ronlanter6906 Жыл бұрын
Same with the climate.
@MrElemonator
@MrElemonator Жыл бұрын
I hope you lose you home and someone tells you the world is always changing 😊
@1942december
@1942december Жыл бұрын
Yes, just like the climate.
@RSTI191
@RSTI191 Жыл бұрын
Along with the Climate for the last 4.5 billion years..
@ripperduck
@ripperduck Жыл бұрын
My parents told me about the collapse back in the early '60s in Rolling Hils and Palos Verdes. This has been an ongoing issue for over half a century, yet they continue to build in that area. At some point, you cannot be stupid anymore..
@michaelgeraghty3989
@michaelgeraghty3989 Жыл бұрын
Big Rock in Malibu, the bluffs in Pacific Palisades, Bluebird Canyon in Laguna Beach are some of the other coastal LA areas that have been moving for many decades. Everyone knows it, but people repeatedly build, then every time something like this happens everyone acts shocked and the homeowners look for someone to blame besides themselves.
@HenryChangDesign
@HenryChangDesign Жыл бұрын
if you're a local who's lived there for awhile, you're gonna know, but people who are new to the area won't have any idea. And will the realtors tell them? Some will, some won't because they wanna make a sale.
@michaelgeraghty3989
@michaelgeraghty3989 Жыл бұрын
@@HenryChangDesign Flood zones, land movement zones etc. are in the disclosures document the buyer must sign. People rarely read what they’re signing.
@_heycupcake
@_heycupcake Жыл бұрын
My friend is a geologist, and she says that developers never read the reports about the findings of whatever area they are trying to build on.. that’s terrifying!!
@huckfin1598
@huckfin1598 Жыл бұрын
These idiot Californians believe humans caused CLIMATE CHANGE in the small amount of time humans existed on the planet but ignore the fact that the earths land by oceans have been shifting for centuries
@juju-xx5xn
@juju-xx5xn Жыл бұрын
Of course they never read them. They saw $$$ and nothing else.
@BSU55
@BSU55 Жыл бұрын
That's profit motive
@jak3589
@jak3589 Жыл бұрын
Yeeeks!
@kasisatya5448
@kasisatya5448 Жыл бұрын
Or read them and disregarded. Greed.
@makeit-takeit6707
@makeit-takeit6707 Жыл бұрын
The people who built those homes knew exactly what they were doing. They built those homes on a foundation they knew was temporary. And they are slip/sliding away.
@the.seagull.35
@the.seagull.35 Жыл бұрын
Willful ignorance is the most likely cause. You can hire a geotech guy to tell you whatever you want to hear
@markme4
@markme4 Жыл бұрын
How would they know ?
@reubenmorris487
@reubenmorris487 Жыл бұрын
@@markme4 Because...landslides only happen to OTHER people...
@huckfin1598
@huckfin1598 Жыл бұрын
These idiot Californians believe humans caused CLIMATE CHANGE in the small amount of time humans existed on the planet but ignore the fact that the earths land by oceans have been shifting for centuries
@CJinsoo
@CJinsoo Жыл бұрын
wasn’t there a song called “slip, sliding away?”. Oh yeah, “the more you’re near your destination, the more you’re slip, sliding away”. In this case, the destination is: to be near the ocean, away from the rabble, complete security and tranquility, beautiful sunsets…
@heatherdeavalon
@heatherdeavalon Жыл бұрын
I haven't lived there for 40 years it was sliding then, and it will continue to now and forever.
@fionnmaccumhaill3257
@fionnmaccumhaill3257 Жыл бұрын
I lived very close to this until quite recently (the beach). The earth is ALWAYS moving there.
@dianewalker9154
@dianewalker9154 Жыл бұрын
It’s all about greed. That land should never have been developed.
@thesoundsmith
@thesoundsmith Жыл бұрын
Greed on BOTH sides, the SELLERS should have been required to explain that the peninsula is unstable, and the BUYER must be willing to take the chance. And from the County Taxman, of course.🙄
@GungaLaGunga
@GungaLaGunga Жыл бұрын
What?! It's perfect land for the developers! Buy high risk land at low prices, and build 'luxury living' McMansions on it for maximum profit. Lather rinse repeat.
@elainemartinez2021
@elainemartinez2021 Жыл бұрын
​@@GungaLaGungaThe American dream.
@GungaLaGunga
@GungaLaGunga Жыл бұрын
@@elainemartinez2021 Yep. "The American dream. Because you have to be asleep to believe it" - George Carlin
@GummyBearWA
@GummyBearWA Жыл бұрын
Who would've thought living on the edge of a canyon could be problematic?
@Heterogeneity
@Heterogeneity Жыл бұрын
A canyon in sand dunes.
@yourewelcome192
@yourewelcome192 Жыл бұрын
With EROSION.
@johntrojan9653
@johntrojan9653 Жыл бұрын
@@yourewelcome192 Over Watering on Porous Limestone Bluffs - (Sinkhole "City", like Florida). Incidentally, Donald Trump has a Golf Course up there - (Just saying *)
@johntrojan9653
@johntrojan9653 Жыл бұрын
@@Heterogeneity Frail Limestone
@yourewelcome192
@yourewelcome192 Жыл бұрын
@@johntrojan9653 Ooo you're right! They do water a lot. Wow, hadn't thought about that! THAT, most assuredly contributed to THE EROSION. It's true, with ground like that, you want to be VERY CAREFUL. And driving your car up on the driveway... they didn't stand a chance.
@tomcartwright7134
@tomcartwright7134 Жыл бұрын
The beauty of these places drive people to want to live there. However due to unstable soil and geologic conditions, there are some places that people should avoid building homes. My heart goes out to the people losing everything.
@kbrewski1
@kbrewski1 Жыл бұрын
Don't feel sorry for wilful planned idiocy.
@justbeachy2031
@justbeachy2031 Жыл бұрын
@@kbrewski1 before I even noticed your name, my response to you was, go get yourself another beer so you can enjoy sitting on the front porch, looking at all those broken down cars in your driveway. Have a nice day.
@christinegeary4877
@christinegeary4877 5 ай бұрын
Lack of due diligence and critical thinking skills does not make me or anyone else financially liable to cover another’s losses. My insurance increases every time a policy is paid out for properties purchased in dangerous areas and now these foolish folks want my tax dollars, too? The whole concept of insurance is unsustainable in the long term.
@mikekennedy4572
@mikekennedy4572 Жыл бұрын
For decades, I have thought the entire PV Peninsula is not a good place to own a home due to ongoing soil movement. I feel bad for the people who lost their homes, but I find it shocking that they were not previously concerned about the unstable soil throughout the peninsula.
@lisaspencer3194
@lisaspencer3194 Жыл бұрын
They shouldn't have been allowed to build there. Was there no environmental studies done 1st???
@senseofstile
@senseofstile Жыл бұрын
It was a trash dump prior to development. No environmental studies required.
@reensure
@reensure Жыл бұрын
It's Cali, so who knows. In my part of the country environmental studies are required only if there needs to be a federal permit of some sort.
@senseofstile
@senseofstile Жыл бұрын
@@reensure It's a joke but, it really was a trash dump prior to development.
@staciasmith5162
@staciasmith5162 Жыл бұрын
It used to be illegal to build up there, for obvious reasons.
@loblowry6282
@loblowry6282 Жыл бұрын
When the Big one hits, many homes will be damaged. The entire CA sits next to the San Andreas fault line so all Californians need to move to another State away from the main fault line!!! Are you in CA?
@saskianorvell8604
@saskianorvell8604 Жыл бұрын
Yes area has always been moving. I can see small rocks and dirt always coming off from the hills as I am driving through in the area and there are signs everywhere stating it. Why builders are allowed to build houses in all that area??? And why people keep buying homes there regardless???
@aidenmartin6674
@aidenmartin6674 Жыл бұрын
The same reason why houses are built and lived in on coastal regions in hurricane prone regions. Beautiful views and disaster might never happen.
@dw3403
@dw3403 Жыл бұрын
Why? They rake in high taxes.
@mytwocents848
@mytwocents848 Жыл бұрын
Greed!
@Dbb27
@Dbb27 Жыл бұрын
Horse blinkers. Some wear them their whole life.
@dougtso4126
@dougtso4126 Жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I've been predicting, in fact I think the area between LA and San Diego is at risk of submerging when the Big One hits.
@RapturereadyforJesus
@RapturereadyforJesus Жыл бұрын
And that earth is coming soon. Yellowstone is acting up.
@ARoyalLyon
@ARoyalLyon Жыл бұрын
The rock in Palos Verdes soil is soft and I could crumble it by hand as a child in the 70s. Everyone who ever drove the coast through the Portuguese Bend area knew decades ago that the ground was unstable up there. It absolutely AMAZES me the way County Supervisors fast tracked public emergency assistance for rich people living in a gated private community.
@KayRay424
@KayRay424 Жыл бұрын
Good grief…warnings everywhere to drivers, hikers and bikers…but developers built houses on unstable ground…and people shocked when it does exactly what it was stated it could do. I got nothing…
@dw3403
@dw3403 Жыл бұрын
The builders and the city made tons of money. Even if the owners knew they were on unstable ground that would not have stopped them from buying for the view.
@ASMR_Lighting
@ASMR_Lighting Жыл бұрын
1955 Toronto hit with Hurricane Hazel and significant flooding, damage etc. (look it up) to communities along shore of Lake Ontario and Humber River Basin. Government response was to map the floodplain and turn all those waterfront areas into parks. Big win for citizens as we now have these beautiful areas for cycling, picnics, parks etc.
@deetorrance3659
@deetorrance3659 Жыл бұрын
My aunt lived in RPV in the 70’s and 80’s. She sold her home, because the ground kept moving and damaging her house. This is not new.
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 Жыл бұрын
She had to disclose or it's a perfect lawsuit.
@deetorrance3659
@deetorrance3659 Жыл бұрын
@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 who said she didn’t disclose? I have no idea one way or the other, but don’t worry, she passed away a long time ago.
@lawrencewestby9229
@lawrencewestby9229 Жыл бұрын
It looks like those hills are not made of rock but rather clay deposits. Developers just see open land, though, without much consideration to the consistency of the ground they build on.
@jennysantiago2624
@jennysantiago2624 Жыл бұрын
They build those homes on quick sand. Yikes!
@auntlouise
@auntlouise Жыл бұрын
They also have diatome layers, which is like chalk - very slippery.
@patricialongo5870
@patricialongo5870 Жыл бұрын
Geologists can probably establish where we ought to be, but people aren't likely to accept the word "no" if they have enough money to build there. They tell us "no" when we beg for sustainable lives.
@thomastaylor6699
@thomastaylor6699 Жыл бұрын
That's exactly the mentality of the developer's! All they care about is the money.
@dw3403
@dw3403 Жыл бұрын
Blame the city for handing out the permits. They knew.
@kevwhit7058
@kevwhit7058 Жыл бұрын
These people literally lived in a place called Rolling Hills and they're shocked that this happened?!? Still, prayers going out to all those affected.
@Mansikkacake
@Mansikkacake Жыл бұрын
I mean I thought it is a common sense not to build houses on the mountain. Many countries dont do that. I've been wondering looking at those houses on the hills for years. Hollywood hills around laurel canyon etc. they even got some of the houses destroyed by mudslide for past 10 years or so. California is part of the ring of fire, and we have earthquakes often and recent mudslide, landslide, all predictable just like that huge sign 2:19
@markfish8403
@markfish8403 Жыл бұрын
What will these poor people do? 😮
@GeriMars
@GeriMars Жыл бұрын
The City of Rolling Hills is named after the area topography.
@bromleysimon7414
@bromleysimon7414 Жыл бұрын
@@GeriMars You mean it's not a reference to the hills themselves rolling downhill?
@kenthompson5723
@kenthompson5723 Жыл бұрын
"These people literally lived in a place called Rolling Hills and they're shocked ..." ---------------------------------------------------------------- Homeowners assume that the developers are aware of the geology and have concluded that it is safe to build. That's naive, to say the least. But homeowners themselves are not geologists. The real villain here are the developers who see undeveloped land as a chance to make lots of $$$. Developers and their capitalist mentality don't give a damn about people.
@arizjones
@arizjones Жыл бұрын
They have always had to make repairs on Palos Verdes Drive at the south side of the Peninsula near Portuguese Bend due to landslides. It was constant back in the 1970s when I lived there.
@keithcontrades1191
@keithcontrades1191 Жыл бұрын
Working in heavy construction for thirty years building subdivisions in sandy areas was always sketchy. Unless it was in a level area where the grounds could be compacted well. But on a sandy hillside is rolling the dice every time.
@NoWayOut55
@NoWayOut55 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention the extra work removing extra product. We built pools in Tijunga that we'd need to put 2×4s down for ribbing to hold up the form! Some of the lengths were up to 6ft long...just to hold up bender board 🤷⁉️
@patriot5526
@patriot5526 Жыл бұрын
As a building contractor for 35 years, I can tell you that this is what happens when your local building department is either inept or getting kick backs from developers. It is not that difficult to determine if the ground your building on is stable or not. It’s not difficult but it can be an expensive process, so it doesn’t get done. Potential homeowners with no construction experience or knowledge should do their own research or pay out of pocket to hire independent experts and engineers. These people did not do that and now have been defrauded by their building department.
@staciasmith5162
@staciasmith5162 Жыл бұрын
This area is beautiful but dangerous and is prone to landslides. That has been known for decades. Gradually builders and buyers were allowed to override common sense. Glad that no one died.
@user-zp7jp1vk2i
@user-zp7jp1vk2i Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of HS running up around Shantree Flats in the Azusa area . We loved it as there was always a breeze while runing cross country. Of course, developers sucked local govt. into allowing the building of housing there. BUT that breeze also brings Santa Ana winds, and burns the housing down. !! Every Grade 10 kid knew you don't build there!
@peter-pg5yc
@peter-pg5yc 11 ай бұрын
but stable today in future it is not
@jimpawa5793
@jimpawa5793 Жыл бұрын
I remember houses sliding into Elliot Bay in Seattle after heavy snowfall and rain in 1996. Homeowners in the area sued Seattle/King County to build their homes in areas that were deemed too unstable, yet after the storms and homes slid over the fact they ( property owners) were allowed to build them.
@catbriggs8362
@catbriggs8362 Жыл бұрын
The families trusted those who assured them the land was safe. I truly feel sorry for those who lost their homes and the things they valued. Thankfully, they didn't lose their lives.
@peter-pg5yc
@peter-pg5yc Жыл бұрын
It was safe at the time,and it changed..
@maryloutapia315
@maryloutapia315 Жыл бұрын
This has been happening for years. The road that goes from San Pedro thru Palos Verdes has been shifting
@paulkalff6408
@paulkalff6408 Жыл бұрын
YES! My buddy lived in PV Estates....even back then there were pipes/conduits carrying water and power lines along portions of that roadway....still there, today!
@DavidSmith-fj6fx
@DavidSmith-fj6fx Жыл бұрын
Yes, I drove that road a few days ago. They actually have signage warning drivers, motorcyclists, and bicyclists that the road is dangerous due to the subsiding ground beneath it. I was really uncomfortable driving on that road and I think anyone who has experienced it would be in denial to think having a house in that area is a good idea. That said, the view is spectacular and the homes are gorgeous. I'm guessing Pompei's residents enjoyed similar opulence.
@justbeachy2031
@justbeachy2031 Жыл бұрын
⁠@@DavidSmith-fj6fx the signs are up because of foolish drivers thinking they can drive through at fast speeds, not because the roads are going to cave in.
@DavidSmith-fj6fx
@DavidSmith-fj6fx Жыл бұрын
@@justbeachy2031 Thanks for the reply. I agree that fools make everything worse for the rest of us.
@melviasheppard8466
@melviasheppard8466 Жыл бұрын
That’s not where humans are supposed to build things and live permanently. It’s where we should go camping and let nature be beautiful !!! It’s sliding into the ocean a little bit every year. This year the rain made it worse.
@ighdesigns
@ighdesigns Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the Native Americans knew where to live, but we got rid of them.
@melviasheppard8466
@melviasheppard8466 Жыл бұрын
@@ighdesigns that’s not true ! They have casinos all over the state of California and throughout the United States. We The People of America today didn’t do anything to them. It’s the people of the past that are responsible for what they did to Native Americans, Afro Americans, Mexican Americans and Japanese Americans. They were evil and greedy 🤬 self centered 🤬. But with the grace of God. We have a beautiful country. Now we need to start working together peacefully 🙏🏽🇺🇸🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
@therealvlad505
@therealvlad505 4 ай бұрын
@@ighdesigns native americans still exist, give them their land back. You can start with your house
@ighdesigns
@ighdesigns 4 ай бұрын
I didn’t say they don’t exist, but they didn’t live in places that got flooded or crumbled underneath them. They knew the land.@@therealvlad505
@sandram4670
@sandram4670 Жыл бұрын
My heart goes out to the people who have lost their homes. Heartbreaking! This actually could happen... anywhere on Earth.
@donsergio2406
@donsergio2406 4 ай бұрын
Almost 20 years ago, I used to jog through subdivisions and public areas to reach the Pacific coast in the south side of the peninsula. I remember (countless of times) how I could see new cracks forming week after week in the summer on Palos Verdes Blvd, some of them requiring shutting down traffic for the road crews to fix the problem. I also remember a lot for sale on a hill nearby Del Cerro park that literally “vanished” after a heavy rain (due to the landslide that followed). And some folks still pay millions for a house that may not last the next rainy season…
@comentariopolitico1014
@comentariopolitico1014 Жыл бұрын
Yes, it could have been prevented if they have NOT BUILD anything over there. These greedy asswipes homebuyers knew what they were doing and these homeowners should have known better.
@joaquinmisajr.1215
@joaquinmisajr.1215 Жыл бұрын
Abrupt underground climate change wasn’t a thing back then, was it?!
@atombombtom8615
@atombombtom8615 Жыл бұрын
Perfect Logic, Perfect English, Perfect Perfect Perfect...You are a national treasure !
@jennysantiago2624
@jennysantiago2624 Жыл бұрын
Micro quakes are destroying those homes. That's an earthquake paradise.
@checkoutmyyoutubepage
@checkoutmyyoutubepage Жыл бұрын
@@joaquinmisajr.1215that’s called an earthquake, smart ass.
@SK-lt1so
@SK-lt1so Жыл бұрын
@@joaquinmisajr.1215 Gravity was a thing back then, wasn't it?
@neilreynolds3858
@neilreynolds3858 Жыл бұрын
I lived on the Peninsula 60 years ago. They had already changed the location of the major road around the area because of landslides. That was because of a horizontal clay layer that turned into mud if it got wet. We used to hike up and down the cliffs and bluffs. The rock will crumble in your hand. It's layers of soft sediments that aren't consolidated. Despite all that, it was a great place to grow up and run around like you were in the country. If you buy a home there, make sure it's on a flat area.
@rebeccapeterson7405
@rebeccapeterson7405 Жыл бұрын
My Dad lived out there in early 1970s. We walked the cliffs a lot and saw the war bunkers. Very wild, not much around at that time.
@peter-pg5yc
@peter-pg5yc Жыл бұрын
Hong kong same soils.they wire meshed and gunnited and created concrets pathways for water.. Ive seen it and they get way more rain.. like 16 inches in 20 minutes no damage.. they prepared for it.. yes i lived thru that rain..
@kbrewski1
@kbrewski1 Жыл бұрын
Are any of these homes insured? I can't imagine an insurer even covering this.
@brianmclaughlin4419
@brianmclaughlin4419 Жыл бұрын
Portuguese Bend flat area was the worst. if you can predict where it will slump next, you are working for God, cause God only knows.
@celiaferreira2028
@celiaferreira2028 Жыл бұрын
Sure but the guy up on the hill collapsing on your flat area not helping. To be greedy for best view in LA, it'll cost you Everything (life, property, destruction of others properties/life). Then they want pity afterwards....make this make sense people 😮
@sloanNYC
@sloanNYC Жыл бұрын
We lived in RPV and one thing that was concerning is how many homes were built before the stronger earthquake guidelines. It is beautiful though, our views were amazing. Note, when she is showing the sign about land movement that pipe infrastructure behind her is ABOVE ground because it moves so much there.
@yamamancha
@yamamancha Жыл бұрын
It amazes me that people would buy a home without confirming the structural integrity of the ground it's built on. It's equally ridiculous if homebuilders aren't required to conduct such surveys and disclose the findings.
@mirnacollins6514
@mirnacollins6514 Жыл бұрын
Growing up nearby, I would Mountain bike with friends around those hills when it was open fields. I recall though the hills looked rugged, however some areas were soft and dangerous because you could find yourself in a sinkhole while riding through. This is probably what happened after many years later the ground gave way, and of course the recent rains didn't help.
@ericlindenmuth7517
@ericlindenmuth7517 Жыл бұрын
A house just down the street on Hawthorne lost their backyard about 15 years ago. I grew up here and yes you can tell where the ground is softer and less stable.
@celiaferreira2028
@celiaferreira2028 Жыл бұрын
Wow good to know this. This will end up in the ocean when the big one hits. Or when it's time....yikes 😮just like the movies showing the floor collapsing.
@navydoc6889
@navydoc6889 Жыл бұрын
So many things that can be said... so many things wrong!!! But when she said the HOA is working on locating a GEOLOGISTS, I died 😂
@MagnoliaPantherWoman
@MagnoliaPantherWoman Жыл бұрын
Same!!
@baconbap
@baconbap Жыл бұрын
I know! I thought a bunch of mean old Karens trying to boss scientists around.
@louisc.gasper7588
@louisc.gasper7588 Жыл бұрын
Pretty much all of coastal California has been known for ages to be "geologically active." It takes little more than a glance at a map of fault lines in the Los Angeles area, and a terrain map, to see that the Palos Verdes peninsula is on a kind of shelf. Last year a study from Harvard said the fault had far greater potential to be the focus of a large magnitude earthquake than formerly known. That is new but scarcely surprising information. Earth movement has been common on this peninsula for a long time. My guess is that it is sliding into the sea, and there's not a blessed thing that can stop it or even appreciably delay it. My understanding is that ordinary homeowner's casualty insurance doesn't cover damage from earth movement. Even earthquake insurance won't cover this. IMHO, that's how it should be. Building on land that is primed to slide should not be insurable.
@sinepilot
@sinepilot Жыл бұрын
We live on a giant bowl of molten soup that has formed into a ball instead of spilling all over the place because it exists in a vacuum and reached a certain density. The surface of that soup has cooled and congealed into a thin, unstable, frequently wet crust. It's been that way long enough, not only has bacteria started to grow in the wet areas, it's also started to evolve and expand across the rest of the crust. That anything survives at all is incredible.
@RapturereadyforJesus
@RapturereadyforJesus Жыл бұрын
The sun is acting up, Yellowstone is quaking
@killbill5486
@killbill5486 Жыл бұрын
Look at these rich people saying it "could have been preventable". Just looking to sue someone for the risk they took buying there.
@valerierogers9609
@valerierogers9609 Жыл бұрын
Yep.
@beerrox711
@beerrox711 Жыл бұрын
Nature really showing the rich who’s boss these last few weeks… good
@YM-wj2dr
@YM-wj2dr Жыл бұрын
Pretty good indication not to build there. I'm sure building contracts included clauses regarding erosion, saturation, and possible land/soil risks.
@bromleysimon7414
@bromleysimon7414 Жыл бұрын
It's a certainty that the insurance contracts expressly mention this as excluded from coverage.
@MikiCab1
@MikiCab1 Жыл бұрын
It is hard to believe that thaw home builders and regulators didn’t know this land was unsuitable for buildings
@rusticbox9908
@rusticbox9908 Жыл бұрын
Why would you fill cracks on a Cliff face?? The crqcks opened up because it's sliding downwards! Filling the cracks is adding more mass on the top of the sliding slope!!! Are they trying to make it slide faster?
@davidellis5141
@davidellis5141 Жыл бұрын
Paradise has a price.
@JILOA
@JILOA Жыл бұрын
What's worse is no insurance coverage for landslides. A total loss for these homeowners
@h.phillip5245
@h.phillip5245 Жыл бұрын
There is, it's an added expense.
@kilbourn
@kilbourn Жыл бұрын
Correct, but you can buy coverage. I imagine there are some owners who did not buy additional coverage
@joerad4722
@joerad4722 Жыл бұрын
Wouldnt the providers just claim 'mother nature' clause and not cover anything?
@alexandersupertramp7353
@alexandersupertramp7353 Жыл бұрын
​@@kilbournInsurance companies don't sell "caused by nature" policies. They're shit out of luck
@creolelady182
@creolelady182 Жыл бұрын
they can afford it
@mkogrady6078
@mkogrady6078 Жыл бұрын
After any heavy rainy season in southern California this happens. Last year the cliffs in san clemente caved in. Its a naturally recurring event.
@caroletaylor9960
@caroletaylor9960 Жыл бұрын
If you have lived her long enough, you'll remember in the movie Lethal Weapon 2 they 'pulled' a house down. Well it was a house in Rolling Hills that had been condemned, and they got permission to film them pulling it down. That was 1988/89. Rolling Hills has had movement problems for years. Some people never learn.
@Me97202
@Me97202 Жыл бұрын
It’s insane to live perched in such a vulnerable place.
@ejack4961
@ejack4961 Жыл бұрын
What do people expect ? Buying or building on a hill like that not the brightest crayons in the box.
@alexandersupertramp7353
@alexandersupertramp7353 Жыл бұрын
It's called "Dumb as Hell". Plus! They aren't covered by insurance due to it was done by "nature".
@patricialongo5870
@patricialongo5870 Жыл бұрын
It's your business. Everyone for himself. It's what I expected from a privatized "country*" or from a group of owners. Rolling hills? Let them roll with it.
@Novastar.SaberCombat
@Novastar.SaberCombat Жыл бұрын
Rich narcissists build where they wish and dive in submarines which are glued together. What a shame. Intelligence is RARELY a byproduct of inherited wealth.
@carefulconsumer8682
@carefulconsumer8682 Жыл бұрын
Wait until the San Andreas Fault starts to vibrate.
@robert2628
@robert2628 Жыл бұрын
all you have to do is, take a ride to near by San Pedro's Point Ferman and take a look at Sunken City. that should tell you that the area has a history of erosion and landslides.
@israelrodriguez2402
@israelrodriguez2402 Жыл бұрын
C'MON! People who buy in the hills are aware of possible or future landslides or liquefaction. The only people who dropped the ball are the buyers who didn't do their due diligence to hire the proper inspector to conduct soil testing to determine if the property is worth buying.
@baconbap
@baconbap Жыл бұрын
I've hiked in this exact area before. It is breathtakingly beautiful but eerie at the same time. There are these big water pipes along the trail that are kind of like an accordion that try to adjust with the land movement.
@davemcelderry7086
@davemcelderry7086 Жыл бұрын
The planet is doing what it's always done, you just happened to be in the way
@mikem.8487
@mikem.8487 Жыл бұрын
You're right, They were in the path of operation.
@gregmartinez6420
@gregmartinez6420 Жыл бұрын
They knew they shouldn’t build there and they did anyway because they knew how much money people would pay to live there
@kbrewski1
@kbrewski1 Жыл бұрын
And the dopes that bought the houses are so arrogant and vain that they put "having an ocean view for a few years" over having a house that would last until old age.
@buqwik525
@buqwik525 Жыл бұрын
Why am getting ads after ad blockers installed?? any idea
@RobbieSongwriter
@RobbieSongwriter Жыл бұрын
As many others have noted, this stuff is NOT NEW. At least as far back as the 1950s there was evidence this area was UNSTABLE. Homeowner that asked who was responsible for the damage should look in the mirror. Building/buying homes in high risk historically unstable areas, or ANY other steep hillside or beachfront cliffside home, should not expect a bailout. High risk homesite - that's on YOUR dime. Documentary WAY BACK explained the US agency in charge, told people in historical flood zones on the mid/lower Mississipi to relocate up on the bluffs or they were on their own. Hate to see anyone lose their home, but the risks were obvious.
@yuthin3774
@yuthin3774 Жыл бұрын
Hello the name says it all...”Rolling Hills”
@daniallemons9343
@daniallemons9343 Жыл бұрын
What good does filling the cracks do other than waste material???
@dwtrksvc
@dwtrksvc Жыл бұрын
How is the governor going to blame Trump for this?
@carefulconsumer8682
@carefulconsumer8682 Жыл бұрын
Or Putin. This calls for another $20 Billion for Zalensky!
@CrowSpirit1977
@CrowSpirit1977 Жыл бұрын
Oh grow up!
@truegret7778
@truegret7778 Жыл бұрын
People that complain "they should have done more" or "they should have given us warning".... really irk me. When these homeowners are driving around looking for a home to buy, and see normal homes, on flat land, and stable neighborhoods and say to themselves "nah, we want to buy this home, built on a cliff" ..... it is ALL on them. They took the risk. They CHOSE this home. No empathy whatsoever.
@robingalbraith323
@robingalbraith323 Жыл бұрын
You do realize flat land has issues too? Ever heard of an earthquake, a flood, a tornado, a dust storm, etc? I guess when a flood comes you tell them you have no sympathy for them...they bought on flat land! What were they thinking?!?
@mizzury54
@mizzury54 Жыл бұрын
Do you say that on stories about people losing their homes to a tornado ? yeah probably , because you have made perfect choices all your life.
@truegret7778
@truegret7778 Жыл бұрын
@@mizzury54 Nah, because we all make choices. I choose not to live in Tornado Ally (although have family to do). My point is pretty simple. And, yea, my life is great. There were some bad choices along the journey, but don't go crying to others to bail me out for my choices. I mean, it is even in the name - "Rolling Hills ....". Take ownership, learn, suck it up, and move on.
@truegret7778
@truegret7778 Жыл бұрын
@@robingalbraith323 Exactly. It is about mitigation of risk. Buying in "Rolling Hills Estates", on a hill .... "what were they thinking?!?" If you live, say in Oroville, about a mile downstream of Oroville Lake and the government engineered Oroville Dam and spillway .... yep, big risk of being flooded out. If you live in Tornado Ally, well, ya' better design a pretty sturdy storm basement. I lived near the Simi-Santa Rosa fault zone during the 1994 Northridge quake - moved our home 4" to the west, only suffered a hot water heater fitting crack (minor). Moved to IN. So, we all make choices (mitigate risks), suck it up and move on.
@compostjohn
@compostjohn Жыл бұрын
Hang on, the place is called 'Rolling Hills' and no-one stopped to think what that actually implied? Someone wasn't thinking.....
@georgiaguardian4696
@georgiaguardian4696 Жыл бұрын
I had a chance to buy a beautiful house with great views on near top of a hill among many houses. It had no issues with land sliding but not for me. It could slide anytime due to rain or any reason in years or decades!
@RapturereadyforJesus
@RapturereadyforJesus Жыл бұрын
Earthquake is coming!
@fdegasperis
@fdegasperis Жыл бұрын
Now that headline is somewhat misleading. Although some parts of the peninsula are prone to slides, it's a stretch to say that the entire peninsula is at risk. This area is no more likely to have landslides than Palisades, Malibu and many other neighborhoods sitting on hilly land along the coast. The Portuguese Bend area is an exception, but that is a small part of PV.
@keithc.5764
@keithc.5764 Жыл бұрын
The nerve of that guy saying that something should have been done and he feels they were overlooked in the past. Friggin humans have an endless GALL or whatever ya want to call it.....idiocy!!!!!!!!
@tasa4904
@tasa4904 Жыл бұрын
...you're trying to keep the value in this area up, aren't you? On paper, Rolling Hills gave no indication that it was in a landslide prone area, and yet several houses have been lost now.
@le_th_
@le_th_ Жыл бұрын
Yes, Portuguese Bend is a slightly new adventure everytime I drive it. Love that drive, too...beautiful vistas.
@Sndyj457
@Sndyj457 Жыл бұрын
You only say this because you live there and probably own property there too
@jenc8953
@jenc8953 Жыл бұрын
I agree. There were 2 homes in my neighborhood in a suburb of Los Angeles that slid off a 15 foot hill. The area has a few small hills, but nothing even remotely close to what Palos Verdes has and the homes still slid. I’m sure the flatter area of PV are much more stable than these cliff side areas. It will be interesting to see what the geologist has to say.
@Josephine92371
@Josephine92371 Жыл бұрын
Earth is reclaiming itself from the destruction of man.
@maria_caitlin
@maria_caitlin Жыл бұрын
As a midwest resident I can confirm building a home anywhere in CA is insane.
@RapturereadyforJesus
@RapturereadyforJesus Жыл бұрын
I agree!
@DooWops4U2
@DooWops4U2 Жыл бұрын
I left Rancho Palos Verdes in 1990. Homes were still out if reach to buy. We left So Cal and never looked back. I do still miss the atmosphere of living in an affluent area but that's how life goes.
@richarddawdy8488
@richarddawdy8488 Жыл бұрын
That whole area has been having issues ever since before I was born.
@kingdedede9135
@kingdedede9135 Жыл бұрын
How did Mr Yen expect anyone to predict the landslide?
@ericscottstevens
@ericscottstevens Жыл бұрын
He probably expects socialist politicos to have rules in place for just such an event. Well I guess they are busy doing other rules and regs.
@charlesjames1442
@charlesjames1442 Жыл бұрын
@@ericscottstevens ; Did you see RE developers running to the County Board yelling "Please regulate me!" No, you didn't. They actively fought for freedom from oversight and this is the result. BTW; they're long gone.
@robingalbraith323
@robingalbraith323 Жыл бұрын
​@ericscottstevens yes how dare we have rules in place to not allow a contractor to build a house on unstable land? Why would that be a bad thing? Do you seriously expect every potential homeowner to be an environmental engineer with the ability to test the land themselves? No? So wouldn't it make sense to have people who are experts in the field to weigh in?
@harryhanz1690
@harryhanz1690 Жыл бұрын
It's Repiglicans telling everybody else how to live their lives.
@noplacelikehomecrochet5335
@noplacelikehomecrochet5335 Жыл бұрын
Everyone should have expected it. Homes on the edge of a mountain might just slide down someday 🤔🧐
@rand0m742
@rand0m742 Жыл бұрын
I feel bad for the homeowners, but seriously.. was the sunken city in San Pedro not enough of a cautionary sign?
@pacificostudios
@pacificostudios Жыл бұрын
The San Clemente landslip that knocked out passenger train service between Oceanside and San Juan Capistrano followed after a very rainy winter. But it has been dry in SoCal for over a month.
@hangdogit
@hangdogit Жыл бұрын
I used to pick up my daughter from a family that lived in a house on top of a hill in San Jose -- who had picked her up from a Scout meeting. The entire area was designated a "seismic activity study area.' The road up to the top was in a continual, slow-but-measurable LANDSLIDE! Neither insurance rate-payers nor taxpayers should have to bail out people who take that risk.
@melviasheppard8466
@melviasheppard8466 Жыл бұрын
Insurance companies don’t pay for sucidie. Why pay for those houses ? Let them go after the builder.
@Zacht1980
@Zacht1980 Жыл бұрын
Wow, I never would have expected that building my house on the edge of a steep hill would put me at risk of my home being destroyed by a landslide.
@h.phillip5245
@h.phillip5245 Жыл бұрын
Nobody knew your house was going to slide, but mud/landslides occurr quite often in California.
@patricialongo5870
@patricialongo5870 Жыл бұрын
Nobody knows that driving to the suburbs is tipping the ecosystem over. Everyone for himself is the official ethics of our "nation".
@bonniejosavland3227
@bonniejosavland3227 Жыл бұрын
Huh? They reported that the land has been shifting since the 1950s🧐😳🤡 why were they allowed to build in the first place🤡
@patricialongo5870
@patricialongo5870 Жыл бұрын
@@bonniejosavland3227 same reason you're allowed to drive a car home, even though we've understood that's driving the mass extinction since the 1970's. Because it's your decision and we're not socialists, so it's everyone for himself.
@mejercit
@mejercit Жыл бұрын
@@patricialongo5870 How do cars cause mass extinction?
@patricialongo5870
@patricialongo5870 Жыл бұрын
@@mejercit through the exhaust pipe. How do denialists stand themselves?
@dianetm8557
@dianetm8557 Жыл бұрын
Sending love from Florida. Just spent time in CA. Beautiful state.
@dylandid50
@dylandid50 Жыл бұрын
Where is this
@Paiadakine
@Paiadakine Жыл бұрын
All around PV the oil pipes have extensions so when the soil moves they don’t split apart, and the roads have repairs from the cracks due to ground movement. I’m suprized this issue has not happened more. But the views from these homes along PV are fantastic.
@user-st6nt4ou6f
@user-st6nt4ou6f Жыл бұрын
As they slide down the cliff, wave by
@staciasmith5162
@staciasmith5162 Жыл бұрын
They knew that landslides were an issue, but the view... Lucky no one was killed.
@ighdesigns
@ighdesigns Жыл бұрын
Yeah, how’s the view from the bottom of a sink hole?
@gloriajean2226
@gloriajean2226 Жыл бұрын
This is beyond ridiculous! Why was building ever permitted on land like this?
@nicmart
@nicmart Жыл бұрын
Let them build where they want and pay the price. Do insurance companies cover this place?
@RSTI191
@RSTI191 Жыл бұрын
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