All it took was one yugioh video, and now these don't stop showing up in my feed

The fact that a lot of Outer Entity cards are banned/limited is really sad, their artwork is so cool and I would love to see more lovecraftian stuff in yu gi oh

New Errata term: Envoy of the ended When something was so broken that it had to be nerfed like Chaos emperor dragon so it could actually be playable again.

Suggestion: Top 10 surprisingly balanced cards. Cards that seem like they should be overpowered or terrible, but that wind up being kinda fair.

Gumblar Dragon is unfixable without completly changing what it does. It's one of those "I can't believe they printed that" type of cards.

I remember pulling a ghost rare ancient fairy dragon and losing my mind. Best pull I ever had

Extra link is when you co-linked your link monsters from one extra monster zone to the other extra monster zone. So basically you are allowed to use 2 extra monster zones instead of just one. While co-linked is a state when your 2 or more of link monsters are pointing to each other.

Crazy how Ancient Fairy Dragon was pretty subpar during my yugioh days. Literally just used as a high defense synchro when in desperate situations. Until broken field spells were released...

Everyone like, "Poor Ruka, her boss monster is banned." Meanwhile I'm like, "Poor Ruka, she NEVER GOT ANYTHING REMOTELY CLOSE TO A REAL DECK."

Similar to not having a battle phase on the first turn, I’ve always thought it would make sense for Konami to change the rules so that you can’t discard from your opponents hand on the first turn. This would help fix a lot of broken cards

Do top 10 banned cards that were power crept off the list.

Speaking of the anime and Ancient Fairy Dragon, there was a part of that story where AFD was taken prisoner and basically sealed away. And now it basically finds itself in the same kind of "prison" in the real card game.😝

Gumblar could be fixed by adding a "your opponent must have 5 or more cards in their hand to activate and resolve this effect"

That's Co-Linked. Extra-Linked is when your have 3+ Link monsters (2 in both extra zones) and ALL are Co-Linked.

As someone who is very new to yugioh, these videos are super interesting, both because they explain why cards are so strong, but also because they talk about the history of the cards in question and why they were so strong at the time, even if they aren’t as strong now (ex. Dark Armed Dragon)

I just love that ancient fairy dragon look like the good version of the barian rank up force. Like I’m imagining that it gave it power to the xyz temporarily and overtime when link became a thing it soon took back that power because it’s modern. *Lillie wears a cross between Luna and Rio outfit*

M-X-Saber Invoker was also used commonly in Madolche decks as well to easily bring out Messengelato as he is a warrior type and needs to be special summoned in order to use his search effect. I used it for years in MR3 decks and even in early MR4 decks before Petting came out.

"Unless new X-saber support came out tommorow" So what? We'd get XXX saber cards?

hey i just wanted to say these videos are really well produced and fascinating and i really appreciate the work you put into this channel's content!! it's calming to listen to and i love hearing about card interactions

A friend of mine played Sky Striker and my Colossus couldn't stay on the field for more than two turns. The effect can be negated pretty easily, especially nowadays

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"There is a surprisingly little amount of banned Fusion monsters compared to other Extra Deck monster types." I mean, Fusions were mostly balanced thanks to needing 3+ other specific cards to summon - two specific materials and a fusion spell. And then they threw balance out the window with every new summon type after, degrading the game further and further with each new summon type. Synchros only need 1 specific material and 1 or more other generic materials and no spell, XYZ only need 2+ generic materials and no spell, and now Links which sometimes only need a single generic material and no spell. Konami just does not have even the slightest understanding of the phrases "power level" "keeping power creep to a minimum" or "maintaining balance". Games are won or lost solely based on opening hands and the first 1-2 turns now, the only monsters worth running or summoning are ones with omni-negates or other effects that don't target or destroy, since most other monsters have "can't be targeted or destroyed" or some other equally powerful protection on them now-a-days, and the game is nothing but special summon spamming out 2/3 your main deck and half your extra deck within 1 turn. Not to mention the fact that most spell or trap cards are also useless, even archetype specific ones, thanks to the amount of overpowered generic extra deck monsters and the few overpowered generic spells and traps. Also, it's pretty telling how poor a grasp of the idea of a fun or balanced game Konami has when hand trap monsters (one of the least fun aspects of Yu-Gi-Oh with extremely little counter-play) are considered so core to the game that they ban and restrict some of the only ways to stop them. (Azathot, Called to the Grave, etc)

"Azathot was banned because it was used to shut down your opponent's monster effects during their turn" Calamities:

DuelLogs, a guy known for finding good arguments to why cards are and must stay banned, even he thinks Colossus is kind of okay. Yup, Colossus is turning into the next Stratos indeed. XD

Well, I suppose they could take it a step further with Gumblar by turning him from "Once per turn" to "Once per duel." Gumblar would only ever be able to take two cards from your opponent during one duel. His intended effect stays in place, and it's not nearly as abusable. Of course, anyone is free to point out the flaws in this idea. It was just a quick one off the top of my head 😅

Extra deck monster: Has effect where it can *special summon from the deck* Konami: We don't do that here

“For people who don’t understand links” *proceeds to give the wrong information

I feel like a lot of players in this game share this opinion: "Floodgates should be banned, they're not healthy for the game. Period. But Thunder Dragon Colossus coming off the banlist wouldn't be THAT bad for the game." I have a hard time understanding the duality of that opinion.

It is hilarious how Ancient Fairy Dragon was the 2nd worst signer dragon when it was released in Real Life and it was the the signer dragon (only black-winged dragon was worse) from the weakest signer in the anime Ruka/Luna, and yet, after Field Spell cards got good and it became easy to summon, it became by far the most broken signer dragon and perhaps the 3rd best synchro monster in the game including forbidden ones (after Denglong and Ib WC Justiciar). Also, a suggestion I give for Gumblar to become balanced is to force the player to not be able to Special Summon other monsters during the turn it is summoned. Like you said, outside of making Gumblar inconvenient to use, it is incredibly hard to balance the card, since discarding 2 cards from the opponents hand is far too powerful of an effect to exist in the game.

Topologic Gumblar Dragon was so broken that not even a hard once per turn restriction could stop it from hitting the banlist.

16:08 ain't that the truth. I was pissed when Called by the Grave got limited

Azathot was also being used in ftks to make it so your opponent can't stop you.

AFD was SUPER popular in the sort-of In-between-meta between Lightsworns and Dragon Rulers, around the time that the Dark World Structure deck came out (one of the first structures that became meta-defining just by buying 3 copies) it was thrown into a lot of DW decks along with Fabled Raven and Tour Guide, to cycle through Gates.

"thunder collossus is limited in the OCG" yeah, but the powercreep in there is a lot higher, they also have "maxx c" and "that grass looks greener". if thunder collossus wasn't that good of a flood gate, it could be unbanned, and maybe even unlimited.

Changing gumblar dragon's effect to "if another monster is special summoned to a zone THIS card points to" with once per duel could be the solution

I watch DuelLogs when eating and its relaxing. I haven't played Yugioh in years but it nice to see what's new

I feel like the only real way to unban Topologic Gumblar Dragon without changing its effect is to make it once per duel.

18:35 Extra linked means if its part of a link formation where every link monster co-linked from one Extras monster Zone to the 2nd Extra monster zone, even if it does not contribute to the extra link (so its still extralinked if it in the corner, still co-linked to the big U-Link)

I don't know why I'm addicted to these videos. I don't even play Yu-Gi-Oh

you might be our 5th favourite custom card reviewer but youre certainly my favourite yugioh historian on youtube

18:40 that's not an extra link, that's a co-link. An extra link is when you have 5 monsters all co-linked using both extra monster zones, informally known as a u-link because it looks like a u.

Colossus to one. That’s all

I miss you Colossus...

Colossus would be just fine at 1. The mistake effect is good, but what made it worse was that you could summon out 3 on turn 1. Although looking back, thunder dragon was really never the best deck even at its best

I love duellogs voice, he has such a calming voice, i can listen to his videos for hours longer compared to any of the other yugitubers!

For M-X-Saber I say if you could only summon earth warrior or earth beast-warrior monsters from the extra deck during the turn you use it’s effect (both before and after) would fix it from being abused without overly changing what it can already do

Now I’m scared. I never knew Goukis in their prime were really strong and I started using them in late 2020

Suggestion: top 10 cards to receive the most errattas. A lot of people dont know how many times some cards have been erratta'd. Example: Necrovalley has been erratta'd 7X

I know you mentioned this in other videos but in case people haven’t seen them: the primary reason for Azathot being banned wasn’t just because of its ability to lock your opponent out of monster effects - that effect also does not start a chain and it lingers even after it leaves the field, making it almost impossible to interact with outside of counter traps like solemn, etc.

I quit ygo for like 3 years, watched one of these just to kinda take a look at the meta of right now, and now I've seen like a hundred of your videos the past few days. It's funny because I was one of your first subs from the VERY beginning. Glad to see you doing well=)

I was so inspired by your Chaos Draft that I tried to do one myself. I eagerly chose MX Saber, and didn't realize it was banned until it was too late...

So I've just learned that Phoenix Blade enabled so many degenerate combos (Airblade Turbo, Infernobles, Topologic Gumblar) that it's a surprise they didn't banned yet. Whatever year it is, it just manages to come back with another broken move

Btw co-linked is when 2 monsters point to each other e.g. > < Extra linked is when u can take over BOTH extra monster zones with a co-link the extends to both extra monster zones

Extra Link is the act of having a series of Link Monsters connecting to both Extra Monster Zones. Your definition was that of co-linking.

Id like to see a list of cards that make both players do the same thing at the same time.

As someone coming from MTG, what's a good resource for learning the game? Like going over turn steps, spell speed, when the player has 'priority', how cards are played/set, how effects(like flip) work, extra deck monster stuff, etc. Ideally one that uses MTG terms to describe stuff.

Ancient Fairy Dragon: I fear no field spell. But that thing, (Mystic Mine), it scares me.

I’m I think co-linked is when two cards are pointing too each other. Extra linked is them being linked to each other while in the extra monster zone

Looking back at Azathot, wouldn't a simpler solution to fixing the card be to change it's rank to something awkward like 12? That would probably kill off the rank up strat.

AFD is mah fav Synchro and the most beautiful one to me as well. One of my favorite cards.

I know full well that Thunder Dragon Colossus was banned because that "Nemesys" Thunder monster was coming and so every deck could play Colossus outside it's archetype, that's why.

Ancient Fairy Dragon was originally created to be a sort of counter to Earthbound Immortals, as they can't exist without Field Spell Cards

Just wanted to say I've been binging these videos after getting back into Yu-Gi-Oh with master duel since 2006.

Fix suggestion: "This effect cannot be activated during the first two turns of the game."

Topologic Gumblar Dragon was disgusting with Merlantean Hand Loop decks. Banish a card from their hand with Deep Sea Sentry, discard two more with Moulinglacia, knock another two with Topologic, and then when your opponent’s turn started and they got their banished card back, make them discard it with Desert Locust out of Crystron Halqifibrax. Either they start with one card their turn, or you snipe that one too with PSY-Frame Omega 🙌🙌🙌

Nyarlat into Azathot is a huge flavor win BTW, I endorse this obnoxious degeneracy.

Azathot`s artwork makes it seems like a custom card.

So just so that I can understand this properly: The game became so fast and hectic due to how powerful new cards were that Handtraps were introduced to balance it out a bit, a horrible idea as most agree but at least it allows us to get to a turn 3 and 4 instead if every duel being decided by the second turn. And then when one card showed the fault in that system, they banned it. Yep, that prett much summarized Konami's balancing philosohpy, does it not?

I know this video is very old, but what they could do to Gumblar Dragon is make the effect once per duel in normal play. If we’re talking about competitive play with matches, then they could make the effects once per match. They do have cards where their effects can only activate once per match.

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one more clause that can be added to AFD field search eff is "Add 1 Field Spell Card with the same NAME as the destroyed card from your Deck to your hand" to prevent it have too many options on searching

Correction on your proposal about putting a hard once per turn on each of the effects of Ancient Fairy Drag, i suggest even better option, and that is putting a once per duel On Each effect, and using only one of them once per duel, wich means he won't be abke to use both effects at once or each one of them 2 turns in row, only one of them per duel

Thanks for the extra-link explanation! I still haven't wrapped my head around link monsters, so I appreciate the effort to make it understandable to old cudgeons liie me :)

Thinking on Topologic Gumblar Dragon, one of the problems with discarding as a cost is that when you do it right it isn’t a cost - too many cards have floating or graveyard effects. A potential fix for powerful effects trying to become balanced by discarding cards would be to negate those cards until the end of your turn, or your opponent’s next turn.

I think a good way to change Topologic Gumblar Dragon is to make both players draw cards equal to the amount of cards discarded. Sure it would change the niche from hand control to more of a mill strategy, but I think it'd be a better card health-wise for the game.

Not sure if you've done this, but a top 10 cards that go against their name (like breaker the magical Warrior not being a warrior) would be cool/funny

Denglong can be fixed by changing its materials to require only wyrm type monsters

Super late, but I have two ideas for Gumblar; One is to make it so that it's effect cannot be activated on your first turn or that the card cannot be summoned on your first turn, so that you can't just completely annihilate your opponent's opening hand but still have access to some hand destruction later OR, and what is probably the better fix, is to make it so that you can only activate the card's effect once every 2 turns instead of one, similar to the lingering effect of Dimension Shifter, Dogmatika Punishment or Mirrorjade, where if you activate it in your turn, you can't use it's effect again until your turn comes back around, equally if you activate it on your opponent's turn, you can't activate it's effect until your opponent's next turn. That second one sounds like it might work, from there you could probably change a couple of little things like maybe changing the summoning condition, but I feel like putting that hard of a cap on it's discard effect is the thing that would help to most to reign this in without completely destroying it. I definitely thing there's a versio of this card that can exist without completely overhauling the effect

My GOODNESS, never been *this* early!! Love you, DLogs 😘

Linkuriboh is a card effect that SS, so the first Gumblar errata you suggested would prevent players from using its effect during the opponent's turn. In fact, I can't think of a single SS you can perform on the opponent's turn without activating a card effect. No need for the second errata. This also means that you would need 5 Built-In SS mechanics (pretty much your entire hand) to bring Gumblar out and use its effect turn 1, making it almost unplayable unless you're willing to wait until the next turn, which by then telegraphs your plan to the opponent to get rid of it or put their hand onto the field. Activating the effect the following turn would also prevent you from doing anything else that turn as well... so big OOF. I think the only reasonable fix is to drop the discarding to 1 max for it's non-extra link effect, then maybe have it only during your turn (the last bit is just to prevent easy hand loops from those pesky water decks). I would avoid changing its materials, since that changes the design for the "Topologic" archetype in that they're suppose to be generic powerhouses for all decks to use. Inb4 this is never read.

And did you know that only 50% of the people who watch this video are subscribed to the channel? I was waiting for that at the end.

I think all of these cards except Gunblar can be changed a bit easier to fix their issues: 1. Colossus - If they just made the Summon of Colossus by its secondary condition a HOPT, that would completely make the card balanced because the issue of the card was always being able to summon multiple in 1 turn. 2. Ancient Fairy Dragon - Actually there is a MUCH easier way to fix this card then any HOPT. Just require that your Opponent has a card in their Field Zone to activate the effect to destroy all Field Spells. That way it’s effect more or less is a OPT as it’s not a Quick Effect and your Opponent shouldn’t be dumb enough to put another Field Spell in play while Ancient Fairy is on the field. 3. M-X Saber Invoker - This doesn’t need to require X-Sabers, but I think 2 Level 3 EARTH Warrior or Beast-Warrior monsters would go a far way to fix the card. The issue with Invoker is the decks that abuse the card the most usually didn’t need to burn the deck’s actual resources to make it. So with that, they now would have to have to either find an engine that fits those conditions or use their decks’ resources and can’t drop it freely. 4. For Azathot, just make the condition to turn off effects be “When this card is Xyz Summoned, except by a card effect” and that basically fixes the actual problem the card has. The Naryla thing isn’t really an issue IMO, that was actually a case of Tier 2 deck trying to stay relevant after being neutered. The issue with Azathot is it makes it harder to be able to print RUM cards without them accidentally letting any deck use Azathot, so when that’s gone there is no problem.

Ayo gotta say you forgot to mention the main reason Colossus was banned: MR5. It was pretty damn powerful but not too powerful to stay in the game during TOSS format and later on because although thunder dragon players could consistently make 2 Colossus, it required a lot of commitment and resources since you had to make link arrows as well as get thunder bodies on the field. It was a pretty broken extra card to chuck on top of an already really good dragon link board (or I guess danger thunder guardragon as it was called at the time) but what made it scary was how easy it was going to become to summon in MR5. You could literally make double Colossus in 4 summons, i.e. be safe from Nibiru, so they banned it preemptively.

For Gunblar, all you need to do is make it so both of its effects are ignition effects, or effects that only work during your turn. That way the card stays the way it was intended without running it to the ground

If they made a Master Rule change that made it so that you cannot make your opponent discard on turn 1, it would balance a lot of the banned discard cards.

For Topologic, you can make it so that you can only discard 1 card to make your opponent discard 1 card, and restrict it to be only usable during your turn. That would limit it heavily. Same goes for the Extra Link effect; you can only make your opponent discard 1 card.

Usually you post a video in a midnight in my country, but now almost afternoon 😀. Great video btw

I love these cards

I'm surprised you didn't go for the Thousand Eyes Restrict comparison over El Shaddoll Construct, considering it's the posterboy of going from banned to powercrept. Guess you wanted something for more modern fans.

7:53 Update: Ancient Fairy Dragon got errata'd recently. - Its two effects are both Hard Once-Per-Turns. - The Field Spell nuke and search effect got restricted in a manner that goes one step beyond TheDuelLogs' suggestion: Now the Field Spell you search must have a name different from the Field Spells that AfD destroyed.

I think you confused extra link and co link for gumblar

You confused extralink with colink

The Envoy of the End errata doesn't even work with Gumblar because any Special Summon activation is going to be a card effect, the idea makes sense, but the wording would have to be really funky to make it function

Topologic Gumblar Errata is hard. But you can halve it's effect efficacy for starters. So 1 card instead of up to 2 for each effect. The other version is that you can only use one of these effects per duel. So up to 2 cards max would be discarded, which would make it a convoluted Moulinglacia with a 3k cheese which would be funny if it goes off.

For Topologic Dragon one way to fix it might be to restrict it so you can only use the effect if the opponent has X cards in hand, kinda like the restriction on Trap Dustshoot. So like a "You can only use this effect if your opponent have 5 or more cards in hand". Still strong but at least now you don't rip out everything they have.

To fix Gumblar Dragon I always thought if you change how it's arrows are pointing it might help nerf the card without killing it.

One possible way to nerf Gumblar Dragon could be to restrict the effects so that you can only activate them on *your* turn, alongside the hard once per turn and probably making it harder to summon

Giving Gumblar the CED errata would make it useless, because summoning Linkuribuh would count as an activated effect, you'd need to give it the "if a monster is normal or special summoned" phrase

The only way to fix gumblar is to have ot be 3+ effect monsters with different names and ban linkuriboh as well. A complete retrain that only works going first and only discards one on summon would be safer

I learned some F.A. tech for Duel Links i couldnt learn anywhere else THX