Explaining Pointers Until I Go Insane

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Mults

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28 күн бұрын

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Hello there! I've been wanting to talk about quirky pointers for a while. They make no sense sometimes.
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@MultsElMesco
@MultsElMesco 27 күн бұрын
Hello everyone! I've been doing some mix and match with my content style lately. Just trying new things. Let me know what you think :) To try everything Brilliant has to offer-free-for a full 30 days, visit brilliant.org/Mults You’ll also get 20% off an annual premium subscription.
@mxblock
@mxblock 24 күн бұрын
Not a regular viewer (yet), but - This right here is literally a master piece for me. Educational, something interesting, memes (not to in you'r face / loud audio - still prominent to be entertaining), relatability, the ever growing crazieness, straight to the point, not to short nor to long, right volume for music and mic, the outro song - all just perfect. Keep it up!
@NeostormXLMAX
@NeostormXLMAX 5 күн бұрын
I recognize that digimon cybersleuth ost
@tuhkiscgibin6627
@tuhkiscgibin6627 26 күн бұрын
If a codebase has any of this stuff, you'll know it's been backdoored.
@atomgutan8064
@atomgutan8064 24 күн бұрын
lol exactly. this is extreme obfuscation
@tuhkiscgibin6627
@tuhkiscgibin6627 24 күн бұрын
@@atomgutan8064Some Jia Tan shit
@atomgutan8064
@atomgutan8064 24 күн бұрын
@@tuhkiscgibin6627 lmao this is the new backdoor reference now ig
@avoavoavo
@avoavoavo 24 күн бұрын
Once committed, always committed. No explanation is needed. It works.
@tosemusername
@tosemusername 23 күн бұрын
Well, the person who backdoored it understood it, so jokes on you :P
@Spitfire720
@Spitfire720 27 күн бұрын
Aight I'm never listening to the word "pointer" again
@deltamico
@deltamico 26 күн бұрын
"pointer" You can read it instead. You're welcome
@nodrance
@nodrance 24 күн бұрын
I point on her... Wait
@deleteddeleted1940
@deleteddeleted1940 20 күн бұрын
learn about references!
@jeremymcadams7743
@jeremymcadams7743 19 күн бұрын
Let me give you a few pointers about how to get over this issue
@mux1c
@mux1c 5 күн бұрын
I'd like your comment, but it's at 911 and I can't ruin that
@vulnoryx
@vulnoryx 26 күн бұрын
"say pointer again" "fuck you"
@user-qr4jf4tv2x
@user-qr4jf4tv2x 19 күн бұрын
is that rick and morty
@vulnoryx
@vulnoryx 19 күн бұрын
@@user-qr4jf4tv2x yes
@nexushare8105
@nexushare8105 7 күн бұрын
damn how did i read it in rick and morty voice in my head 😆
@vulnoryx
@vulnoryx 6 күн бұрын
@@user-qr4jf4tv2x indeed it is
@ThisIsAnAccount
@ThisIsAnAccount 4 күн бұрын
Did you just... insult me with a **pointer**? Son of a..
@LizardGecko420
@LizardGecko420 22 күн бұрын
You realize how complicated pointer syntax is when the best explanation of how to read complex statements is in a funny YT video
@Hallilo
@Hallilo 26 күн бұрын
I honestly never had any issues understanding basic and more advanced pointer stuff, but THIS is some actual good stuff LMAO great video
@ThisShitWontWor
@ThisShitWontWor 24 күн бұрын
12 years old me learning C++ : "Ok so, its a box containing... a box, ok?, containing a box... fuck it"
@ry6554
@ry6554 25 күн бұрын
Honestly, An array of functions sounds pretty dope. Nevermind, an array of pointers to functions sounds pretty dope.
@VivekYadav-ds8oz
@VivekYadav-ds8oz 25 күн бұрын
ain't that the same? or are we saying "an array of pointers to function pointers" (effectively double-indirection) in the second one?
@theepicguy6575
@theepicguy6575 24 күн бұрын
Well, you can't have arrays of functions in the first place Only pointers to functions
@user-uf4rx5ih3v
@user-uf4rx5ih3v 24 күн бұрын
In C, you actually cannot store functions inside arrays anyway, the compiler will silently convert that code into a pointer to that function instead.
@jrstf
@jrstf 24 күн бұрын
Is not every C++ member function referenced through an array of pointers to functions?
@pitri_hub
@pitri_hub 24 күн бұрын
@@jrstf Per default, member functions are just statically compiled into the calling code. But it is true for virtual functions. They are referenced in the vtable, which exists for each type with virtual functions. Each of these objects then has an internal pointer to its respective vtable, which contains the pointers to the implementation defined procedures. This is how dynamic polymorphism is implemented.
@eleinaedelweiss6215
@eleinaedelweiss6215 24 күн бұрын
Who the hell would write the last one, without questioning their lives decisions.
@etherstrip
@etherstrip 9 күн бұрын
…people making youtube videos?
@Elias01056
@Elias01056 9 күн бұрын
who the fuck would use *
@danilbutygin238
@danilbutygin238 39 минут бұрын
@@Elias01056 i am
@JoaoJGabriel
@JoaoJGabriel 19 күн бұрын
It all can get stupidly complicated as we've seen, but the syntax follows simple rules: 1. start reading from the identifier out 2. favor [ ] and ( ) over * int (*(*x)[ ]) ( ): - Following rule #1, we start at x x - The identifier x is alone in parentheses with an asterisk, so it is [§1] a pointer *x - Outside of the parentheses, we follow rule #2, so it is [§2] an array (*x)[ ] - We're left with an asterisk inside the parentheses, so [§3] pointers *(*x)[ ] - Outside of the parentheses, rule #2, [§4] functions (*(*x)[ ])( ) - The functions return [§5] int putting §1, §2, §3, §4 and §5 together: x is (§1) a pointer to (§2) an array of (§3) pointers to (§4) functions that return (§5) an integer Once you got the hang of it, you can rewrite the example like: * [ ] * ( ) -> int And stitch things together in a way that makes sense. "->" means "returns" and it's optional/redundant (anything immediately after parentheses in this notation is a return anyway) Take the example of 5:34: [ ] * * (* char, * (* char) -> * int) -> [ ] * (* * char, * ( ) -> * char) -> * int Array of pointers to a pointer to a function that takes (a pointer to a character and a pointer to a function that takes (a pointer to a character) and returns a pointer to an integer) and returns an array of pointers to a function that takes (a pointer to a pointer to a character and a pointer to a function that returns a pointer to a character) and returns a pointer to an integer It looks insane, but it's not that difficult to wrap your head around if you're writing it following those two simple rules
@nexushare8105
@nexushare8105 7 күн бұрын
bro i was with you util i expanded ur explanation... after expanding it i sad( i aint reading all this sheet lol) , but hey, great that u can explain this
@JoaoJGabriel
@JoaoJGabriel 6 күн бұрын
@@nexushare8105 maybe there's a way to be more concise but then that's me who can't bother xD
@lightlezs7048
@lightlezs7048 2 күн бұрын
My man, using asterisks here for anything but pointers is fucking evil, was there really no other way?
@JoaoJGabriel
@JoaoJGabriel 2 күн бұрын
@@lightlezs7048 hahahaha good point, I'm gonna change that
@JoaoJGabriel
@JoaoJGabriel 2 күн бұрын
@@lightlezs7048 better?
@moneteezee
@moneteezee 26 күн бұрын
im actually glad i found this video, you explained this well and now i know how to interpret those long lines
@dipereira0123
@dipereira0123 25 күн бұрын
to whoever reached a point in life where you ended up here or doing this, i really hope you find inner peace one day...
@RT-ym9us
@RT-ym9us 2 күн бұрын
A Pointer in life
@marcsfeh
@marcsfeh 26 күн бұрын
C's syntax makes things excessively hard to parse, in other languages like C3 or more Pascal style languages (like Go and Odin) it's much more clear how these declarations compose
@Apis035
@Apis035 26 күн бұрын
Odin makes me realize that C's syntax is absolute mess. Odin's syntax makes writing function pointer really easy to understand 👍
@user-sl6gn1ss8p
@user-sl6gn1ss8p 26 күн бұрын
It's a feature to sure you realize you're doing something bad : p
@Jutastre
@Jutastre 25 күн бұрын
I think the trick to parsing C declarations is to go from the inside (the name) out. Although you still have to know parser priority. Like the animation at 2:40, except it messes up the priority by looking at "int" before [20]
@Jutastre
@Jutastre 25 күн бұрын
The 4:40 example shows the inside out parsing even better. The 5:35 example seems more complicated because of the function signatures but those aren't as important to parse IME. You basically just copy that from the function in question. If you need to understand it better you just look at that function itself.
@user-sl6gn1ss8p
@user-sl6gn1ss8p 24 күн бұрын
@@Jutastre yeah, the parsing itself is pretty straightforward once you know how things associate and the relevant operator precedence. You start from the name and apply stuff to it from there - the result of doing this will generate something of the type on the left (the "return type" of the expression). Making sense of complicated definitions without naming the steps in the way is just hard by nature - C lets you expose yourself to that, but doesn't make you: you can always typedef things into reasonable steps if you'd like.
@norude
@norude 24 күн бұрын
I think, most of the confusion comes from the syntax. For example, int (*(*x)[])() in Rust, would be Box> "Box" is Rust's pointer i32 is Rust's int
@spacemario
@spacemario 24 күн бұрын
If I understood it correctly, that's a pointer to a vector of pointers to functions that return an int, right?
@norude
@norude 24 күн бұрын
yes, it's just a lot of angle brackets, in a way that actually makes sense C works the other way around
@shanesnover4048
@shanesnover4048 24 күн бұрын
Your outermost Box is unnecessary indirection as the Vec already places the memory on the heap.
@norude
@norude 24 күн бұрын
@@shanesnover4048 that's true, but not relevant
@jrstf
@jrstf 24 күн бұрын
Imagine programming in a language where you can actually specify the type of a value (i32) rather than some kind of a suggestion which varies in meaning in every implementation and even with platform specific switches on the command line.
@James-ne9td
@James-ne9td 23 күн бұрын
"For example, if I use this struct 'Fucker'" caught me completely off guard XD My main takeaway from this video though is that as a C# dev for Unity, I shouldn't touch C++ with a 5 foot pole or else risk entering pointer hell.
@vibaj16
@vibaj16 23 күн бұрын
no one actually uses crazy pointer stuff like this. Actually useful pointer stuff is simple and often feels quite elegant.
@happygofishing
@happygofishing 23 күн бұрын
random swearing is peak reddit humour
@James-ne9td
@James-ne9td 23 күн бұрын
@@vibaj16 tbf, I was being slightly hyperbolic. I do want to get round to learning C++ eventually but the combination of pointers, header files, garbage collection, and syntax is just a lot.
@user-vt9bp2ei1w
@user-vt9bp2ei1w 21 күн бұрын
@@vibaj16 It's really simple.... The library will only use (void* buf, size_t n) for ALL types. C believes that smart users know that the void* returned by the function is a specific type among the 100+ custom types, it will be a linklist + table with a specific internal mix of pointers to stack and pointers to allocated heap, and then you have to be careful about pointer casts, linklist iteration, use void* to calculate offsets, of course you will remember which one is CHAR8* string and which is CHAR16* string, finally free the heap allocation and perfectly avoid the pointer to the stack. The biggest advantage of C is that it is suitable for keeping your job.
@user-vt9bp2ei1w
@user-vt9bp2ei1w 21 күн бұрын
It's really simple.... The library will only use (void* buf, size_t n) for ALL custom types. It is linklist + table with a specific internal mix of pointers to stack and pointers to allocated heap, CHAR8* string and which is CHAR16* string.
@GL0RYS
@GL0RYS 26 күн бұрын
bro lost me before the ad break 💀
@kingpen5866
@kingpen5866 24 күн бұрын
Bro really said bro 💀
@GL0RYS
@GL0RYS 24 күн бұрын
@@kingpen5866 bro really said bro cause i said bro 💀
@fodetraore6666
@fodetraore6666 24 күн бұрын
Bro realy saic bro to some bro who realy said bro to bro 's comment 💀​@@GL0RYS
@VictorMartinez-vi7jx
@VictorMartinez-vi7jx 21 күн бұрын
bro is a pointer to a bro that points to a bro
@GL0RYS
@GL0RYS 20 күн бұрын
@@VictorMartinez-vi7jx bros making sense 🙏
@norude
@norude 24 күн бұрын
I finally understood. The type signatures are provided not the obvious way around, but outside in. For example: int x() is a function named "x", returning an integer. But instead of "x", I can put something different and it will mean, put the whole function inside whatever is in that position. For example "int (*x)()" means to put the function inside the *x. So It's a pointer to a function. But it's not just functions, it's **everything** if we analyze the "int (*x)()" again we get: int , which means to put the integer inside something that something: () It's a function! which means, that we put our int iside the return paramater of that function what's something: * it's a pointer! which means, we put our whole function with integer return type into a pointer. that something: x It's a name "x" which means, we put our whole pointer to a function with a return type of integer into the name "x" Let's do another example: char *(*(*(**x[])())[])(); it's a char, which is in a pointer, which is in the return type of a function, which is in a pointer which is in an array which is in a pointer, which is in the return type of a function, which is in a pointer, which is in a pointer, which is in an array, which is in "x"
@sasho_b.
@sasho_b. 21 күн бұрын
Nah I mean if you understand it then great, but nah Its name first, then sufix left-to-right, then prefix right-to-left, with () being the sufix function arguments operator. I best understand it same as the compiler, start from the inside and go out, sufix prefix exit-braket. Its doesnt matter here, yes, but this also reminds you how other operators work like array access and dereference operators. *x[8] means "take the 8th member of x and dereference", where as (*x)[8] means "dereference x and take the 8th member of that"
@ahmadalzibary4337
@ahmadalzibary4337 2 күн бұрын
my honest reaction to this is: what the f$@% is that ?!?
@halflight8811
@halflight8811 26 күн бұрын
this is what I understood from 3:10 - arr[0] -> func1 => int1 - arr [1] -> func2 => int2 x ->arr - arr[2] -> func3 => int3 - arr[3] -> func4 => int4 - arr[4] -> func5 => int5
@jatinsharma3280
@jatinsharma3280 26 күн бұрын
Man, It felt awesome and confusing at the same time, but thanks to you I come to know the different use of pointers.
@tvardero
@tvardero 24 күн бұрын
6:00 Bro is holding the entire class inside his variable definition The God Variable.
@dawiddulian2403
@dawiddulian2403 2 күн бұрын
A class that someone parameterised the hell out of, it's like "okay, let x point to containers upon containers of functions (class) that parse strings... but in a waythat is so parametrised and specific that you need to parse other string in your chosen function and based on result of parsing you get the answer of your call of x... ...the anser being a f***ing array ofpointers to functions! So basically the class that is x is not all - you now use this class to hold the answers of called(/callable) functions and use THEM as your ACTUAL functions that themselves take an array of strings and parse those strings collection based on (presumably, because it doesn't make much sense otherwise) the original character that is returned from chosen constexpr function (due to no parameters)... ...and all that returns an adress of where the value of it is stored, YOU KNOW, LIKE IT'S TOTALLY NORMAL.
@zFede_Rico
@zFede_Rico 26 күн бұрын
0:14 as soon as i read "france" i subscribed and liked the video
@oyoplayer
@oyoplayer 18 күн бұрын
I love France
@bubbleopter
@bubbleopter 22 күн бұрын
Such an awesome teaching style!
@tiaanbasson9092
@tiaanbasson9092 26 күн бұрын
That line of code in the thumbnail alone drove me insane and I haven't even watched the video yet.
@mazyyyy
@mazyyyy 23 күн бұрын
I FINALLY GOT POINTERS after more than 15 tutorials and another 15 "explanation" videos, you somehow made my brain click. Thank you so much!
@codecat3406
@codecat3406 20 күн бұрын
The fact that C lets you write stuff like this makes me think that someone forgot to write it as an entry in the Geneva convention
@user-hh8jh5gw8i
@user-hh8jh5gw8i 23 күн бұрын
Entertaining and very educational for me. Seeing different uses of pointers that you tried to demonstrate and describe them made my me intrigue, but at the same time dizzy. 😂
@iCrimzon
@iCrimzon 25 күн бұрын
"Go insane?" GO MENTIONED RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
@batatanna
@batatanna 24 күн бұрын
WE GOIN OUT OF THE HOOD WITH THIS ONE 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
@prism223
@prism223 25 күн бұрын
In older computers, especially Lisp machines, pointers always came with a size. A pointer was a 2-D object to the hardware. It had a location, and a size. The weirdness of C/C++ pointer types is an attempt to recapture some of the elegance of earlier hardware in a later era where the hardware forgot about data safety.
@mvargasmoran
@mvargasmoran 24 күн бұрын
what I get from this is that the song at the end rocks.
@therealdia
@therealdia 24 күн бұрын
Ok how was this convoluted mess the thing that actually taught me how pointers work lol
@xtremecoding4005
@xtremecoding4005 26 күн бұрын
This video made me cry
@josephmazor725
@josephmazor725 25 күн бұрын
Actually the best explanation of these bullshit functions I’ve seen, thanks!
@Diamondyoutubization
@Diamondyoutubization 25 күн бұрын
I think this video actually made these easier to parse.
@hodayfa000h
@hodayfa000h 26 күн бұрын
My favorite programming channel
@mrprongles9510
@mrprongles9510 15 сағат бұрын
What i learned from this video is that function pointers are pretty cool! :)
@ffreezed5620
@ffreezed5620 25 күн бұрын
ohhh, i get it, thx :D. Finally understand pointer in my 3rd year in uni :)
@sdwone
@sdwone 18 күн бұрын
Understanding pointers, is like the Great Barrier between amateur devs and the pros! Because THIS is a concept in which knowing how computers actually works, helps tremendously!
@Muskar2
@Muskar2 9 сағат бұрын
A pointer consists of: 7, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 12. I.e. 7 bits unused, 12 bits for the physical offset in memory and the 9's are offsets into a page "tree" if you will . Most CPU's today only use four-level pages, so the top 16 bits (instead of 7) are unused - but Intel is starting to use five-level pages too. It's also why pages are 2^12 (4096) in size, and why large pages can be 2MB (2^(12+9)) and 1GB (2^(12+9+9)) respectively. You can cast a pointer to a number, and shift the bits into different values to clearly see how there's a clear pattern when you allocate memory etc.
@landin1181
@landin1181 24 күн бұрын
Your memory view and c debugger in vscode look very nice. Could you do a video on how you set this up or just gimme some info lol im jealous.
@siddharthbhatia8815
@siddharthbhatia8815 22 күн бұрын
same
@nexushare8105
@nexushare8105 7 күн бұрын
me too
@iagopaulo2445
@iagopaulo2445 20 сағат бұрын
Omg I never understood pointers so well as I do right now thanks to this video
@proteinsheikh9544
@proteinsheikh9544 26 күн бұрын
Absolute heater 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@yuritsukahara
@yuritsukahara 23 күн бұрын
awesome. dude I need your fonr and vscode thee right now
@drominitoketchup
@drominitoketchup 27 күн бұрын
I understood 80% after 15 min totally
@farukyldrm8498
@farukyldrm8498 25 күн бұрын
you shoud have mentioned operator precedence. and also thr syntax related to those concepts perfectly fit into english grammar. as a Türk, ı can say it in english (up to some point) but cannot think of its meaning because we build up the noun phrases other way around
@Rose-ec6he
@Rose-ec6he 22 күн бұрын
I wish this was a joke of some kind, then I wouldn't want to cry
@mikaelluca8827
@mikaelluca8827 23 күн бұрын
love the soundtrack
@Komil484
@Komil484 26 күн бұрын
The way i look at it is, the way you declare a pointer, is the way you access it. So if you got int *(*p[]), you'd access the innermost value (being the int) in the same way: *(*p[i]). And then you work your way backwards To make the point(er) clearer ill go through this. So you access the int by doing *(*p[]), so *p[] is an array of pointers to int, and *p points to an array of pointers to int, and p is a pointer to an array of pointers to int
@nexushare8105
@nexushare8105 7 күн бұрын
anddd.... u just had to make this pun
@vesale.a7745
@vesale.a7745 22 күн бұрын
I seriously never could imagine insanity up to this level.
@klevisimeri607
@klevisimeri607 25 күн бұрын
I like your vids a lot!
@drominitoketchup
@drominitoketchup 27 күн бұрын
Hi, you have been found in my recommendation :O I'm watching it only 0:32 and already subscribed you. You have a funny sense of Humor btw xD.
@john.darksoul
@john.darksoul 23 күн бұрын
I REFUSE to understand this syntax.
@mothratheresa8582
@mothratheresa8582 Күн бұрын
1. Love the suffering 2. Love the use of digimon story cyber sleuth ost, its suitable considering the BS that is the digivolution tree. 3. Great video
@theimmux3034
@theimmux3034 25 күн бұрын
"getting into programming is easy" the programming in question:
@semmu93
@semmu93 24 күн бұрын
also all this pointer magic can be neatly swept under the rug if you use a lot of typedefs with proper names, makes the code much easier to understand for everyone
@NicolasChanCSY
@NicolasChanCSY 26 күн бұрын
A programmer goes to therapy. Therapist: Please tell me what you are scared of. Programmer: I am scared of pointers. Therapist: Okay, let me give you an array of pointers to handle them. Programmer: 😱😱😱
@PBalint817
@PBalint817 5 күн бұрын
This makes me thankful for the C# syntax
@tosaksettharungson
@tosaksettharungson 16 күн бұрын
I buried this nightmare 20 yrs ago. After watching I'm sure I'll get one tonight.
@keheck
@keheck 6 күн бұрын
There's probably already been someone saying this, but at 1:09, the allocation for the FUCKER variable was technically not correct, since alignment could see the struct end up larger than the raw data it contains. For instance, if we used an int after the char[6], most compilers would add a 2-byte padding before it to ensure that the address of the int is divisible by 4 (size of a 32 bit int which I assume is what int is) In general, the safest option is to always use malloc(sizeof()); it'll give you the correct size the compiler will assign your structs
@felix34ever1
@felix34ever1 10 күн бұрын
Ngl i actually understand now thanks 🥰😂
@JLSXMK8
@JLSXMK8 26 күн бұрын
3:29 --> See line 15 (3:21) for further clarification. In short, line 25 is saying that you want to first dereference the pointer, followed by selecting the function at index 0 for that pointer; then you have to de-reference that index (the array itself decays to a pointer containing the addresses of each function) in order to call the function you want from that double pointer. i.e., createFunctionPointerArray() returns "& -> {&add, &subtract}". You're making an embedded function library, I guess you could say, that the variable references, and you have to dereference all those pointers to access the function you want. Easy to understand?
@pawan4920
@pawan4920 26 күн бұрын
How to open that memory view in vs
@n3bul0n
@n3bul0n 26 күн бұрын
Right click and select Disassembly View
@maksymiliank5135
@maksymiliank5135 23 күн бұрын
A simple hack to read c types is to start from parenthesis and then read from right to left. So if you see something like int (*x)[4] its: *x - x is a pointer -------------------------^ [4] - to an array with length 4 -----------^ int - to an int ---------------------------^ Another example: int (*x)(char (*t)[4]) we start with parenthesis so x is a pointer then to the right we see another parenthesis so x it is a pointer to a function then we parse the arguments so the function takes a pointer t to an array of length 4 of chars an the original function x points to returns an int
@sasho_b.
@sasho_b. 21 күн бұрын
The t wouldnt parse i think, its just char(*)[4] its just the inner-most left-most bracket that is the inferred start, for function argument types So the argument int (*)() is a pointer to a function returning int with an empty argument list
@maksymiliank5135
@maksymiliank5135 19 күн бұрын
@@sasho_b. oh yeah. You cannot name the function parameters in the type delaration. Forgot about that
@glitchy_weasel
@glitchy_weasel 20 күн бұрын
Unirocanically very useful video. Mad respect at the dinosaurs who invented C lol
@pierrotarat
@pierrotarat 24 күн бұрын
"Great, you've explained these quite well. Now use them."
@madalenaferreira3018
@madalenaferreira3018 22 күн бұрын
somehow this made me understand pointers better than 4 years in uni
@sasho_b.
@sasho_b. 21 күн бұрын
Is that the all-too-common array of arrays length 8 of pointers to functions returning pointer to array of pointers to char? (The order is name, sufix, prefix, and operators on a name before sufix brackets (i.e. function argumrents) infer that the function is what is being stored in that way, after that is what is being returned; this necessitates that the type before the sufix brackets be a pointer as anything else C wouldnt know how to store) (Also the question would not parse, let alone make sense, you declare an array of arrays of undefined length, thats not allowed, if it was itd be an array of arrays of pointer pointers to functions returning a pointer to arrays len 8 with pointers to int) Or, in simple terms, its probably a number. Tldr just use c++, rust, java, python, ets. C is for pointer tricks and programming elevators, not for actual use. Unless you're making an OS, then it may come of use. C walked so that higher level languages could run.
@JerryThings
@JerryThings 20 күн бұрын
This video is amazing
@VivekYadav-ds8oz
@VivekYadav-ds8oz 25 күн бұрын
I can't believe I actually was able to solve the last two after fumbling on all the previous ones (mainly because of parenthesis which changed if x was a pointer to an array or an array of pointers). I think I'm cursed now.
@satoshikei
@satoshikei 23 күн бұрын
Pro Tip: Just add another */& or put around parentheses until you get no compilation errors.
@lovalmidas
@lovalmidas 20 күн бұрын
On one hand, class/module structures and delegates are basically pointer stuff in pure C. In higher languages, these things 'look' much simpler, by simpler it means the context now spans several .cs files. :P On the other hand, your professor could give you a snippet of ASM code, and ask something like: provide an (or the most restrictive) equivalent C function signature of a CALL function in the code. Yes, you shall use "mov dh,word ptr [eax]" to figure out that eax is a pointer to the value dh now holds, and the only use case of the value being "test dh,dh" means eax can be a *byte, or *bool. :'D
@JacksHQ
@JacksHQ 20 күн бұрын
You had me at "Fucker". Subscribed.
@ChrisgammaDE
@ChrisgammaDE 19 сағат бұрын
1:10 I'm pretty sure you can also use sizeof() directly instead of calculating manually
@nickpratt9338
@nickpratt9338 24 күн бұрын
Please do a vid of how you got that view of memory!
@bobedge289
@bobedge289 18 күн бұрын
Those complex function declarations make me think of complex relational database.
@psyk0oooo
@psyk0oooo 26 күн бұрын
i like your funny words magic man
@aaravdayal4529
@aaravdayal4529 24 күн бұрын
This actually made me understand pointer expressions. Thank you.
@craftydoeseverything9718
@craftydoeseverything9718 26 күн бұрын
How did you not go insane sooner?!!?!?!???
@ThousandsOfPk
@ThousandsOfPk 22 күн бұрын
Interfaces are a fine abstraction from function pointer madness
@wiltonribeiro3951
@wiltonribeiro3951 Күн бұрын
Ok i need revisit some pointer videos before understand this
@therelatableladka
@therelatableladka 25 күн бұрын
Everytime I paused and I am shocked how i get it before you start telling how to understand it. Maybe because i have been doing reverse engineering and malware stuff for long time now. Those codes actually have hell of typecasting with different data types and sizes. But greater video !!! ❤
@thfsilvab
@thfsilvab 23 күн бұрын
Even the parser gave up, and he's still going
@VictorMartinez-vi7jx
@VictorMartinez-vi7jx 21 күн бұрын
I am subscribing without further questions
@nulldot0
@nulldot0 23 күн бұрын
Bro what's your vs code theme it looks nice
@dimi144
@dimi144 8 күн бұрын
I think that this is 100% the reason for the existence of the typedef keyword
@distorted_heavy
@distorted_heavy 10 күн бұрын
Ive personally written terrible code like this and iirc it looked like this: #define FUNCORDER (int (* [])(struct data *)){func1, func2, func3} It is a staticly defined, "anonymous" array of function pointers that accept a pointer to a struct I made & return ints. All of this to save 1 switch statement
@s8x.
@s8x. 24 күн бұрын
bro got every meme in his vault
@Marvindao
@Marvindao 23 күн бұрын
yo! nice video! could i ask what mic do u use?
@Powerm1nt.
@Powerm1nt. 25 күн бұрын
What font do you use ? that font is so cool !
@joshuam2263
@joshuam2263 23 күн бұрын
I came into this, expecting to learn how to read that stuff. Sadly I don't think I learned anything (except maybe reading the decl from the inside outwards?). This video was entertaining though. Just to give you feedback
@matheussilveriosilva5412
@matheussilveriosilva5412 25 күн бұрын
Hey man great video, but what is ypur extensions for memory looking and your theme
@ungenieur
@ungenieur 24 күн бұрын
i think i found it it's : mcu-debug.memory-view
@matheussilveriosilva5412
@matheussilveriosilva5412 24 күн бұрын
@@ungenieur oh thank you my friend
@damindux
@damindux 9 күн бұрын
Now I'm seeing stars everywhere.
@danielrhouck
@danielrhouck 13 күн бұрын
Your first example should fail to compile (if you use -Werror), because control reaches the end of non-void function; the curly braces shoulsn’t be there. Also, although it is useful to be able to read the types like this, the real way to handle them is to use `typedef`s to name the intermediate types. 3:20 You’re mixing up your types. This is probably C pre-23 so it works but not well. You should say as part of the type that the pointers in the array that two `int` arguments.
@Wazzup_Taibei
@Wazzup_Taibei 23 күн бұрын
interviewer: Great, add it to our interview question list!
@ggibby0450
@ggibby0450 7 күн бұрын
If I ever see a pointer to a pointer to a pointer or anything more nested than that, I'm deleting system32, quitting CS, and starting my career as a professional mind reader. Because taking a wild guess at whatever is going on inside someone's head would still be easier then desciphering some of this shit.
@birdrun4246
@birdrun4246 Күн бұрын
I have been working professionally with C for well over a decade. I know most of the ways it can bite. If I see any of these in production, I'm burning the codebase and walking away, and so should you.
@ungenieur
@ungenieur 24 күн бұрын
what's the extension that u are using to see the memory ?
@canaldojp414
@canaldojp414 26 күн бұрын
Incredible I still can't understand pointers yayyyy!!!
@attilamiszkuly5868
@attilamiszkuly5868 23 күн бұрын
Can anyone tell me what theme is he using?
@harryconcat
@harryconcat 26 күн бұрын
hey I just wondering how you have memory debugger in vscode? Reading those memory bars would greatly help me on pointers! Thanks
@siddharthbhatia8815
@siddharthbhatia8815 22 күн бұрын
+1
@zxuiji
@zxuiji 23 күн бұрын
Here's a little tidbit for variable management, while GCC has it's cleanup attribute for a more generic solution that works without it (and a lot more flexibly too), here's my solution (copy pasting an entire header here): ```C #pragma once #include typedef unsigned long ulong; typedef unsigned int uint; typedef char const *str; typedef struct { size_t len; str txt; } strvec; #define bitsof(T) (sizeof(T) * CHAR_BIT) #define lengof(LIT) ((sizeof(LIT) / sizeof(LIT[0])) - 1) typedef struct expiry_link expire; typedef void (*expiryCB)( void *data ); struct expiry_link { void *data; expire *next, *prev; void (*expireCB)( void *ptr ); }; inline void expire_linked( expire *head ) { for ( expire *link = head->prev; link != head; link = link->prev ) link->expireCB( link->data ); } inline void expire_nothing( void *data ) { (void)data; } inline void insert_expirable( expire *head, expire *link ) { head->prev->next = link; link->prev = head->prev; head->prev = link; link->next = head; } inline void remove_expirable( expire *head, expire *link ) { link->prev->next = link->next; link->next->prev = link->prev; link->prev = NULL; link->next = NULL; } #define DECL_EXPIRY_HEAD() \ expire expiry_head = { NULL, &expiry_head, &expiry_head, expire_nothing } #define DECL_EXPIRABLE( NAME, FUNC ) \ expire expirable_##NAME = { (void*)&NAME, NULL, NULL, (expiryCB)FUNC } /* For libraries that have termination functions */ #define DECL_EXPIRYLIB( NAME, FUNC ) \ expire expirable_##NAME = { NULL, NULL, NULL, (expiryCB)FUNC } #define INSERT_EXPIRABLE(NAME) insert_expirable( &expiry_head, &expirable_##NAME ) #define REMOVE_EXPIRABLE(NAME) remove_expirable( &expiry_head, &expirable_##NAME ) #define EXPIRE_LINKED() expire_linked( &expiry_head ) #define EXTERN_EXPIRABLE_H_INLINES() \ extern inline void expire_linked( expire *head ); \ extern inline void expire_nothing( void *data ); \ extern inline void insert_expirable( expire *head, expire *link ); \ extern inline void remove_expirable( expire *head, expire *link ) ```
@ZenWith
@ZenWith 25 күн бұрын
explaining GO pointers till i GO insane
you will never ask about pointers again after watching this video
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