Explaining the June 5th 2023 Banlist

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@vinnythewebsurfer
@vinnythewebsurfer Жыл бұрын
The kashtira archetype has the same feel to it in terms of warping deck construction as “that grass looks greener”. Only instead of bloating deck sizes/prices, it went after making you need extras of already pricey extra deck monsters which is pretty toxic.
@suicune4363
@suicune4363 Жыл бұрын
i just think Zone-Blocking as a mechanic was a terrible idea to begin with.
@Deathmare235
@Deathmare235 Жыл бұрын
Tbf the extra extra deck monsters isn’t the problem it’s the zone blocking
@Deathmare235
@Deathmare235 Жыл бұрын
@@suicune4363 ngl I still want them to do zone blocking just give Ojama support and adjust it so it isn’t too op
@simonpetrikov3992
@simonpetrikov3992 Жыл бұрын
@@Deathmare235 with the experience of seeing Kashtira ojama should never get support again
@theother1s220
@theother1s220 Жыл бұрын
@@suicune4363 I don't necessarily think that it is directly the problem. The problem is how many zones that can be blocked. It wasn't a problem with ojama because the number of zones that could be blocked was not that high. I'm ok with having 2 of my zones blocked. I'm not ok with having 9 zones blocked.
@Ziphreeon
@Ziphreeon Жыл бұрын
As a real old school player, it was nice to use Stein again for a while to get that old Ultimate Dragon Megamorph combo for the laughs and memories
@Red-mg4ro
@Red-mg4ro Жыл бұрын
"Oh boy, I sure do love playing SHS! Such an interesting, quirky, and unique archetype! I am very glad that the support did so well to help the deck increase in power without compromising on the original gimmick. I'm sure it will only be used for the fun unconventional beatdown strategy the archetype was intended for." .... "What do you mean Burn FTK and engine to make 3 negates?"
@Deathmare235
@Deathmare235 Жыл бұрын
Tbf it’s still not as op as the other decks in the mega
@isaacvitela5131
@isaacvitela5131 Жыл бұрын
​@@Deathmare235 it's often the other decks and creativity ruins the fun for those cards. Remember how halqi screwed tuners where lion-o was banned... and mecha phantom beasts were not that great.
@bismarckimperia8781
@bismarckimperia8781 Жыл бұрын
Well at least the name topped. Train OTK wasnt really working nowadays.
@isaacvitela5131
@isaacvitela5131 Жыл бұрын
@@bismarckimperia8781 1 month of glory.... sounds more like an insult than accomplishment
@wingedbluj1674
@wingedbluj1674 3 ай бұрын
That's exactly what I feel about SHS. At least here in the future Borreload and Barrone got sent to the dungeon where they belong! Now if only we could free Scarecrow.
@Kefkaownsall
@Kefkaownsall Жыл бұрын
Ngl felt odd Super Sam never got a chance to shine
@dragonstwilight6389
@dragonstwilight6389 Жыл бұрын
It's not dead, but most of its cards are no longer one card combos
@mechanizedMytha
@mechanizedMytha Жыл бұрын
​@@dragonstwilight6389 fun fact, you can now make a shs denglong zefra combo that searches any monster in the game and gives you a baronne and/or a crocosaur without using your normal summon as it is a one card combo thanks to waka
@fukou_da
@fukou_da Жыл бұрын
The core cards are all low rarity, that's why it got hit so hard
@StellaEFZ
@StellaEFZ Жыл бұрын
@@fukou_da This. Konami really hates when cheap cards are strong
@dragonstwilight6389
@dragonstwilight6389 Жыл бұрын
@@mechanizedMytha key word is most
@FairyHawk
@FairyHawk Жыл бұрын
9:20 Fun fact: The 1-card first turn lock is still possible using Nadir Servant, but it works better for Dogmatika decks as you are locked out of using the extra-deck until the end of the turn. And for sure if this becomes a problem Konami will end up banning Maximus, Nadir Servant or even Dusk Dragon, as they love to ban everything around the problem, except the problem itself.
@gatocochino5594
@gatocochino5594 Жыл бұрын
''Fun fact: The 1-card first turn lock is still possible using Nadir Servant,'' What? How?
@KaitlynFedrick
@KaitlynFedrick Жыл бұрын
​@@gatocochino5594Nadir searches Maximus to dump from ED, and you use the EP effects to summon Cartesia + Albaz and set Branded in Red. Then on the opponent's turn you Cartesia into Guignol to dump Puppet and make Sanctifire with BiR
@gatocochino5594
@gatocochino5594 Жыл бұрын
@@KaitlynFedrick That combo needs an ED monster to be on your GY already to summon Maximus, so technically it's not a 1 card combo. I thought there was a line I didn't know about.
@KaitlynFedrick
@KaitlynFedrick Жыл бұрын
@@gatocochino5594 you send Bucephalus off Nadir and dump Brigrand off Bucephalus, that way you have fodder for Maximus
@gatocochino5594
@gatocochino5594 Жыл бұрын
@@KaitlynFedrick Oh nice, I forgot the new Tri link can do that. Nadir Servant giving bad ED monsters use you love to see it.
@Awesoman9001
@Awesoman9001 Жыл бұрын
As someone who plays SHS on Duel Links and Master Duel, hearing that they were one of the biggest TCG threats this banlist cycle brought me so much joy. Though Losing Scarecrow is a bit upsetting
@iriswav7379
@iriswav7379 Жыл бұрын
Bro SHS got the spotlight but for less than a month, SHS best deck
@superfactorial5717
@superfactorial5717 Жыл бұрын
its barely a "superheavy samurai" deck anyways. where's my samurai steam train king at
@13thKingMu
@13thKingMu Жыл бұрын
​@@superfactorial5717it used in ocg in pure shs as otk option
@melvinshine9841
@melvinshine9841 Жыл бұрын
Konami has some real back-ass-wards logic to their banlists sometimes. Tier 1 deck that been terrorizing the TCG? Let's hit it a wee bit. Good decks that can compete with some of the rampant horseshit and have been a thing for a month? Shoot them in the face like they were Tier 0. Then there's that absolute stupidity of the next Master Duel banlist that's going to do jack to Tears...
@jaythephoenix
@jaythephoenix Жыл бұрын
Next MD banlist: "Know what? Fuck it. Maxx C to 4."
@phoenixvance6642
@phoenixvance6642 Жыл бұрын
Now that the pack is out of the shop, we can hope the next banlist will hit tears
@DirtyDan1203
@DirtyDan1203 Жыл бұрын
​​@@phoenixvance6642too bad tear hits were warranted a literal week after they dropped im MD, but Konami are greedy bastards who'd rather have their community have next to 0 deck variety or fun, then hit the sales of their digital card board
@bismarckimperia8781
@bismarckimperia8781 Жыл бұрын
In MD probably, Bystials is arriving so they did not bother hitting Tear when those Cards arrive. Or they are trying to milk Tear before Bystials.
@melvinshine9841
@melvinshine9841 Жыл бұрын
@@bismarckimperia8781 What's done is done, so to speak, but Tears had no business hitting Master Duel in the state they did in the first place after they'd been hit in the OCG for *weeks* prior to their arrival. How Toadally was preemptively, and rightfully, banned before Sprights showed up because of how silly that card would've been with them, yet the most powerful deck in history gets to come in untouched is beyond me.
@XionSteel
@XionSteel Жыл бұрын
Master duel might be where they are getting inspiration from for their banlists, just to see what is getting abused and what is getting ignored with a lot of the normally banned cards available to use.
@thefisherman0074
@thefisherman0074 Жыл бұрын
most likely yeah good point
@ruyman90
@ruyman90 Жыл бұрын
Is probably the fastest information source they have of thousands of samples instead of relying on tournaments. Of course BO1 and BO3 might have a few differences but is likely almost negligible
@justinpennington6680
@justinpennington6680 Жыл бұрын
Ruyman read my mind
@superhtml9463
@superhtml9463 Жыл бұрын
How you figure? TCG banlist was to temper it back from a turn 0 autowin format
@juanca120
@juanca120 Жыл бұрын
I thought the players already figure out where Konami is taking most part of their data
@ShyRanger
@ShyRanger Жыл бұрын
One thing about Blaster, it MAY have some significance soon since apparently there's going to be new Volcanic support cooing soon, so it MAY be good in that
@Lawler50431
@Lawler50431 Жыл бұрын
My friend was excited to test it in Rescue-ACE as well. Turbulence can special summon itself from the GY (and so can act as discard fodder for the hand effect), and you can recycle banished Rescue-ACE cards with the field spell and draw a card for doing so.
@shis1988
@shis1988 Жыл бұрын
I can hear Payne's screams of joy.
@mayuri4184
@mayuri4184 Жыл бұрын
"Number 89: Diablosis, the Mind Hacker" is the first YCS Prize Card to hit the banlist (outside of Worlds banlist). (For the purposes of the previous sentence, Cyber-Stein and Crush Card Virus are SJC Prize Cards.)
@justsomeguy2825
@justsomeguy2825 Жыл бұрын
Lorewise, you'd expect a format where Kashtira and Tearlaments were both playable at full power, like with Swordsoul and Branded.(Even if Tear would still dominate) But instead, They each get a format where they completely dominate, before getting nuked by the banlist.
@Deathmare235
@Deathmare235 Жыл бұрын
I feel like that makes more sense isn’t visas just going to different planets and then the next one while swordsoul was never directly related to albaz
@kauanjos3199
@kauanjos3199 Жыл бұрын
That happened in the ocg, for a while, it wasn't a lasting format
@pro711200
@pro711200 Жыл бұрын
We had a format like that
@Gilgamesh-em6ru
@Gilgamesh-em6ru Жыл бұрын
Tearlament completely dumpsters Kash in the one tournament they were both at full power.
@Gregelgeek
@Gregelgeek Жыл бұрын
Still don't understand why Purrely got that limit, it's not like it was winning all tournaments or being the most used deck...
@cha0ss0ldier-4
@cha0ss0ldier-4 Жыл бұрын
It’s been dominating in the ocg. It was a preemptive hit
@kauanjos3199
@kauanjos3199 Жыл бұрын
​​I think they should've just semi-limit delicious memory and another card(can't pinpoint the exact one because I don't play the deck) to make the consistency worse but not kill the deck
@Endershock1678
@Endershock1678 Жыл бұрын
@@kauanjos3199 All they did was limit Delicious Memory.
@nodeberiaestaraqui93
@nodeberiaestaraqui93 Жыл бұрын
Limiting Delicious Memory makes making Expurrely Noir inconsistent, which is a pain to get rid of
@zzZDarKCroWZzz
@zzZDarKCroWZzz Жыл бұрын
One thing u forgot to mention on denglong was the option it gave dinos and other decks access to vfd in case u drew 1 of the 3 yang-zing bricks, with vfd now banned they no longer have that failsafe and while it can now make tzolkin or apolusa there nowhere near vfd level. The level modulation might be an issue later as we get better wyrms but right now the card is fine at 1.
@DannySmithson
@DannySmithson Жыл бұрын
As a ride or die SHS player, it hurts so much losing my boy Scarecrow.
@superhtml9463
@superhtml9463 Жыл бұрын
Draw the out
@superhtml9463
@superhtml9463 Жыл бұрын
@BK9 I'm aware how cringe it is.... That was SHS answer to when non-shs players would complain about their insanely overpowered bullshit.
@balther10
@balther10 Жыл бұрын
@@superhtml9463 The deck was garbage before scarecrow and now it’s back to being garbage. Get good
@superhtml9463
@superhtml9463 Жыл бұрын
@@balther10 during CYAC it was bullshit the stuff it was capable of. A deck should not be able to play through resolution of 2-3 correctly and best choice hand traps against it.
@Deathmare235
@Deathmare235 Жыл бұрын
@@superhtml9463 so shoot up konami hq?
@dungeonpastor
@dungeonpastor Жыл бұрын
I don't even run a meta deck and my cards are getting banned. 😢
@ace-trainer-aj
@ace-trainer-aj Жыл бұрын
12:05 In DiscDev (Disciple Devotee) variants, the end board is less handtrap focused but still packed with at least 3-4 disruptions, Linguriboh for trap negation, Masquerena (used to summon Unicorn, Apollousa with at least 2 monster negates, Avramax for a really difficult to out boss monster against some decks or Goddess for monster effect and GY negation and taking one opponent's monster for her Link summon), Wicckid, to protect Ling and Masq from destruction effects and Superfactorial, which alone can deal with 4 of the opponent's cards on a really good day. And that's not mentioning handtraps or other facedown cards.
@CrnaStrela
@CrnaStrela Жыл бұрын
Yeah that's kinda outdated though. Reminder this is TCG and the cyberse supports from cyberstorm access was extremely good that cyberse end board had change to something like: Superfactorial with 3 mathmech one being diameter, online cynet conflict, protecode talker that stop all your link 4 and higher from being targetted, 2 co-linked firewall, 4 counters darkfluid, singularity that bounce 4 cards from gy and field, disabwurm on gy to negate spell/trap, and pegasus in gy to retaliate target spin one card. Circular being one card combo that can facilitate it with the help of one or two extender(s) is brutally good.
@ace-trainer-aj
@ace-trainer-aj Жыл бұрын
@@CrnaStrela Blame my knowledge only being limited to Master Duel stuff 😅 They still don't have to deal with Bystials until tomorrow or something
@6210classick
@6210classick Жыл бұрын
Note that Kashtira Arise-Heart macro cosmos effect will not trigger Number 89 "banish cards from the top of your opponent deck up for to the number of your opponent banished cards face-down" effect as it banishes cards face-up, it's the quick effect that banishes face-down
@Huesteus
@Huesteus Жыл бұрын
Lightning Storm at 2 will never cease to feel completely out of touch to me. OCG loves their semi list and I typically like it when lists are closer in similarity, but not like this.
@AngelofDeath-Y2K
@AngelofDeath-Y2K Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile dark hole at 3.. evenly matched at 3 but lighting storm a once per turn effect is the problem lol
@kauanjos3199
@kauanjos3199 Жыл бұрын
​​@@AngelofDeath-Y2Kdark hole is fine, lighting storm was just used as back row removal, the destruction of monsters were just a bonus
@CrnaStrela
@CrnaStrela Жыл бұрын
Yeah there are way too many semi in this list it's as if OCG people were the one in charge. They also hitting new card when TCG almost never did that, they would at least waited for 3 months before touchin them.
@AngelofDeath-Y2K
@AngelofDeath-Y2K Жыл бұрын
@@kauanjos3199 my point is there are other cards that do exactly what lighting storm does or even better and they aren't even hit but lighting storm is which isn't logical.. I mean I could see if feather duster was at 3 or 2 and people were combining that with LS completly wiping backrows with ease but that isn't the case.. hell even hey trunade is better because it returns instead of destroying and thats even at 3..
@lolz319
@lolz319 Жыл бұрын
semi-limit lightning storm is so dumb because there are almost no decks that consistently are good going second
@AngelofDeath-Y2K
@AngelofDeath-Y2K Жыл бұрын
Dark hole at 3.. hey trunade at 3.. evenly matched at 3
@saudmubarak1876
@saudmubarak1876 Жыл бұрын
My branded deck blind sec with 70% Wingate. Stfu
@theother1s220
@theother1s220 Жыл бұрын
The ban list exists for 3 reasons, known as the 3 Ps of the ban list: Problem, product, and powercreep. Blaster and the sky striker cards were given back to us because the fire set and new sky striker cards are going to be released soon, which helps Konami sell their PRODUCT.
@pro711200
@pro711200 Жыл бұрын
Blaster had it coming for a long time now.
@theother1s220
@theother1s220 Жыл бұрын
@@pro711200 I agree. We will definitely not see the other 2 come off the list anytime soon. We have enough foolish burial and monster reborn effects in the game.
@Billy_Wyatt
@Billy_Wyatt Жыл бұрын
I'm just happy that Blaster and Denglong are off the banlist. The powercreep of those two is tremendous.
@Shugunou
@Shugunou Жыл бұрын
After about a decade of unplayability, Superheavy finally became meta only for them to ban a new card (something they rarely do) to make it unplayable again before it even had a chance to shine. This makes me so mad. I wanted to play Superheavy this format because it is one of my favorite decks. Now I can't.
@slenderman4788
@slenderman4788 Жыл бұрын
The card isn't new though. And nobody needs yet another deck that basically resembles Halq-Don levels of Synchro spam.
@Shugunou
@Shugunou Жыл бұрын
@slenderman 478 Superheavy is a unique deck in that it doesn't play any Spells or Traps (except maybe Sekka's Light) and has monsters which attack while in Defense Position. The only non-Superheavy monster to do this is Total Defense Shogun and that one Elemental Hero Clayman Fusion which apply their ATK instead of their DEF like Superheavy. The deck is unique and has its own identity while many tier 1 decks are just remixes of the same mechanics. Kashtira and Runic are about the only Tier 1 decks that are special. Flunder is interesting but that deck was rogue last I checked. Superheavy would add a lot to the meta if it weren't made unplayable immediately.
@Shugunou
@Shugunou Жыл бұрын
@slenderman 478 Branded is a cool deck that I like but it's really just Super Poly + Future Fusion when you get down to it. Konami hasn't been making unique decks recently and the ones they do make are rarely playable. When have you seen Vaylantz in a non-local tournament?
@slenderman4788
@slenderman4788 Жыл бұрын
@@Shugunou Oh yes, how could I forget, all the nice unique interaction it offers in form of Baronna, Apo, Regulus and Savage Dragon. Never seen those before.
@Shugunou
@Shugunou Жыл бұрын
@@slenderman4788 Almost every deck uses those. Do you just want to throw out the entire meta?
@SuperSilver316
@SuperSilver316 Жыл бұрын
Maybe Tidal and Redox will have a chance next go around, I’d Iike to run Tidal in a water deck if anything?
@stevenceja4706
@stevenceja4706 Жыл бұрын
I knew blaster would be the next dragon ruler to come off the ban list if anything since his effect destroys monsters, which these days is easy enough to play around. It might be a while for the other 2
@SuperSilver316
@SuperSilver316 Жыл бұрын
Yeah Tidal has a foolish burial effect maybe if they changed that effect to send a water monster instead that would do it.
@stevenceja4706
@stevenceja4706 Жыл бұрын
@Jessie Christian Unfortunately if Konami doesn't errata cards then they usually don't like to take them off the banlist until they're completely useless which is kinda the case with Blaster whereas Tidal and Redox's effects are still pretty relevant in the Meta game. I was hoping that they would take Eclipse Wyvern or Thunder Dragon Colossus off the ban list this time around but alas no
@TheCardTrooper
@TheCardTrooper Жыл бұрын
​@Steven Ceja Tidal and Redox wouldn't be relevant at all in the meta. Water decks aren't meta so that already means Tidal isn't seeing play. Redox would only be used in earth decks, and it's role is better filled by Vernusylphs.
@stevenceja4706
@stevenceja4706 Жыл бұрын
@TheCardTrooper No arguments with you there. I just think that the effects themselves are still pretty relevant in the meta and that is what keeps Tidal and Redox banned even if they can't take advantage of them that easily where as in Blaster's case targeted destruction is just "eh" these days and makes him arguably worse than Tempest
@Did_No_Wrong
@Did_No_Wrong Жыл бұрын
Kinda wishes Circular was semi-limited instead because that single card brought Cybverse back into relevance after so long.
@yirash47
@yirash47 Жыл бұрын
Cyberse decks have always been at least rogue tier even before Circular, that's the complete opposite of irrelevancy.
@simonpetrikov3992
@simonpetrikov3992 Жыл бұрын
@@yirash47 nah they were not rogue but that was a good thing for a while so we could forget about MR4
@Eyeshield11721
@Eyeshield11721 Жыл бұрын
@@yirash47 yeah no you’re wrong af
@kauanjos3199
@kauanjos3199 Жыл бұрын
​@@yirash47 not at all
@CrnaStrela
@CrnaStrela Жыл бұрын
Cyberse before circular are just either code talker extra link iblee lock or giant The Arrival. None of them were even considered rogue. Yeah I know Marincess and Salad existed but neither of them were supported that much by Circular also Marincess didn't get the good supports until after circular and salad was missing gazelle.
@voltingmaster5458
@voltingmaster5458 Жыл бұрын
Do top 10 cards that were banned twice.
@SargentFraser
@SargentFraser Жыл бұрын
Birdman....I just need divine wind to come back at 3 to relive my missed out Divine Wind deck from 2011 😢😢😢
@dungeonpastor
@dungeonpastor Жыл бұрын
Ngl, these banlists continue to depress me. "Oh this is good, ban it!" Like, Konami y'all are the ones doing the power creeping. Share the power along archetypes.
@zak0917
@zak0917 Жыл бұрын
The people making the banlist are completely different than the people making the cards. Cards by and large are made around the OCG and the TCG is an afterthought.
@dungeonpastor
@dungeonpastor Жыл бұрын
@@zak0917 Ok? It's still Konami. They've gone a bit overboard with bans.
@zak0917
@zak0917 Жыл бұрын
@@dungeonpastor same company completely different management and idea on how the game should be played
@dungeonpastor
@dungeonpastor Жыл бұрын
@@zak0917 I'm not sure this distinction really matters, but ok. They still could do a better job. The massive ban-list proves that.
@IndexInvestingWithCole
@IndexInvestingWithCole Жыл бұрын
@@zak0917 that’s meaningless
@Drachei
@Drachei Жыл бұрын
circular was literally an excuse to sell more in the next product. They literally sell firewall new support, a new print for aratama, a new link 1, new mathmech reprints. Konami really did a dick move this time to mathmechs players. We aren't broken, it's the meta broken!
@kingjaries
@kingjaries Жыл бұрын
I haven't played in a while but I always enjoy seeing where the Yugi meta is at
@austingomez9630
@austingomez9630 Жыл бұрын
😢I really really need cyber stein
@tristindurocher-batley4780
@tristindurocher-batley4780 Жыл бұрын
I’m very upset that the new banlist made it so I couldn’t even collect the purrely archetype at it’s full potential let alone use it
@gravekeepersven82
@gravekeepersven82 Жыл бұрын
Cope
@parkouremaster
@parkouremaster Жыл бұрын
Before we omni negated to hell, now we floodgate to hell, i wonder what will be future?
@laszlokaszas1003
@laszlokaszas1003 Жыл бұрын
19:26 "As it's an unsearchable 1 of" Burner, Dragon Ruler of Sparks cries in the corner
@cypherdastro8105
@cypherdastro8105 Жыл бұрын
What boggles my mind is how Scarecrow as a link 1 with an extension effect didn't lock you into SHS. If it did I don't think the deck would have been able to use so many generic disruptions and just be a solid rogue deck.
@gatocochino5594
@gatocochino5594 Жыл бұрын
Wakaushi not locking into SHS the moment you use its pend effect was the biggest crime tbh.
@Rhino-n-Chips
@Rhino-n-Chips Жыл бұрын
It's funny how Mind Hacker was released years before, but has the same color scheme as most Kashtira cards, and even hexagons in its background. It almost looks like it's just offscreen from Shangri-Ira in its artwork.
@consoleman94
@consoleman94 Жыл бұрын
Konami definitely looked at Diabolosis and said "we should make a religion out of this"
@EntropicUsername
@EntropicUsername Жыл бұрын
Steam was not hit because of Crystron Halqifibrax, like most of the tuners whose bans were blamed on Halq. Most of them were hits to generic graveyard effects to bring down the Danger! Dark World BA Block Dragon Sekka’s Light piles. A deck Konami despised and nuked on the ban list, but Konami also didn’t want to hit the Danger!s whose introduction sparked the deck in the first place because they were too new. Steam the Cloak in particular was a more recently discovered card at the time, almost exclusively used in FTK variants as a better version of Phantom Skyblaster. The deck’s normal summon, and a card limited to this day. Normal summoning Steam still gave you three link material like Skyblaster’s best case, but also had a grave effect that went plus if hit with a Danger! Halq coming out was mostly coincidental to the hits this pile received.
@ChadKakashi
@ChadKakashi Жыл бұрын
Super Heavy hit?! I’ve been gone from the game since Tearlaments, PLEASE don’t tell me I missed a Super Heavy Samurai meta!
@consoleman94
@consoleman94 Жыл бұрын
Yes and no. Wakaushi is still the most custom card that's ever been custom'd, but even with the amazing new support the deck struggled to stay in tier 1 alongside Kashtira.
@CrnaStrela
@CrnaStrela Жыл бұрын
You can play them when MD release their cards. Keep in mind meta SHS play very different from the usual SHS play so you might not enjoy it.
@KayoGiovanni
@KayoGiovanni Жыл бұрын
18:07 I lost to a well timed gamma in the Brazilian National championship. I was playing with my shark deck. I played around nibiru so my fifth summon was toad to negate the nibiru. And so I was with about to make a board with Bahamut shark imortal by battle because was made with right hand shark, a toad, a stealth kragen and a Nash Knight. But when I activated my toad effect to negate nibiru's effects, my opponent got a gamma and I instantly lost. That's sound unfair and I was very frustrated.
@kirintoudou3366
@kirintoudou3366 Жыл бұрын
- skill issue ,favela merchant
@blazingrune8535
@blazingrune8535 Жыл бұрын
at 5:00 discussing about Kashtira, you mentioned about using Dark Ruler No More and/or Evenly Matched to clear the board off, but uh, Dark Ruler No More doesn't clear anything, or even free your zones. I'm sure you were talking about Book of Eclipse, right?
@Whurlpuul
@Whurlpuul Жыл бұрын
Rest in peace again my boy cyber stein 😢
@christopherb501
@christopherb501 Жыл бұрын
The banlist equivalent of Jean Grey.
@Teixas666
@Teixas666 Жыл бұрын
while sad itsprobably for the best.
@ryuuohdeltaplus7936
@ryuuohdeltaplus7936 Жыл бұрын
Your evalution on the Striker cards and it's place in the meta is very spot-on. Too many people still believe that Engage is "broken" in 2023 and still think multiple Engage activations is "broken", when modern decks plus harder AND have multiple high-attack bodies on the field with negates/disruption.
@francisharkins
@francisharkins Жыл бұрын
Honestly with Kaiser Colosseum in the banlist Sky Striker isn't hard to deal with, Master Duel shows how Strikers can be floodgatey if given the right cards.
@ryuuohdeltaplus7936
@ryuuohdeltaplus7936 Жыл бұрын
@@francisharkinsKaiser colosseum is kinda shit in Strikers imo. Relying on an unsearchable card to make your turn 1 board is hard, and relying on Engage to draw 1 on turn 1 is not that reliable. Strikers can't reliably dump 3 spells going first.
@redace4821
@redace4821 Жыл бұрын
I dislike that it's not once per turn honestly, Bystial can shut down the deck fairly quickly.
@ryuuohdeltaplus7936
@ryuuohdeltaplus7936 Жыл бұрын
@@redace4821 the spells are not hopt because they do not have any monster presence on the field at all. At any time Strikers only has one 1500 atk monster on the field, compared to how many other decks turbo out many monsters on the field with various effects to negate or interrupt plays.
@Dinkle0706
@Dinkle0706 Жыл бұрын
At 5:05 small correction, DRNM cannot out that board where all your monster zones are locked. Shangri-Ira is a lingering effect whilst face up on the field and therefore even if negated by DRNM the zones will reman locked - it will just be unable to lock any more or use the protection effect
@Gilgamesh-em6ru
@Gilgamesh-em6ru Жыл бұрын
DRNM made it a lot easier to break the board since you didn't have to worry about getting more zones locked and your cards not getting banished anymore. So he wasn't wrong by stating it was an out to the board.
@Gilgamesh-em6ru
@Gilgamesh-em6ru Жыл бұрын
Most of the time in game 2/3 Kash would 5 lock the S/T Zone anyway not the monster zones to play around board breakers.
@puppetmon9687
@puppetmon9687 Жыл бұрын
To be honest, Cyber-Stein getting banned is nothing new to me
@kingofkarp
@kingofkarp Жыл бұрын
As a Mathmech player I'm sad about circular
@MagusNeon
@MagusNeon Жыл бұрын
Simple errata, make it so you can only summon Superheavy when scarecrow on field.
@otuanminh7376
@otuanminh7376 Жыл бұрын
still can be play around as they can remove it incredibly easy
@streetgamer3452
@streetgamer3452 Жыл бұрын
Shs did not deserve to get hit so early. This is the worse banlist because it gives a precendent that Konami will release a set, then after only a few weeks, not even months now, they’ll kill the deck off
@alpha34098
@alpha34098 Жыл бұрын
Neither Purrely. Which makes you think that either: This list was meant for August (Duelist Nexus comes out in the end of July and was Rushed (again) because of Complaints of many "Players" Konami is making hits out of Fear (again) because of Purrely and SHS perfomance in OCG which is what happened to Tearlaments in TCG (all they needed to do was to Ban the Ishizu Cards and Instant Fusion, Limit Kitkallos and Pelereino and Semilimit the Girls. That way 1- the Deck would still be Playable but would be very much managable since the limit of Kitkallos would make it a Glass Cannon (just like Kashtira is with the Limit of Arise-Heart) as now all players needed to do is to attack Kitkallos and make sure it does not return and the Deck Crumbles. And 2- it would make the Field Spell they've got in Photon Hypernova Playable since you can't play anything but Aquas in order to make it work (which means no Reinoheart, no Kaleido and neither much of the Compementary)) And you know what they did
@justice8718
@justice8718 Жыл бұрын
Has anyone noticed that the TCG never fears full-powered branded and Swordsoul.
@alpha34098
@alpha34098 Жыл бұрын
@@justice8718 Because Series 11 revolves around Albaz. Besides, despite all the buffs, both die to Ash Blossom
@Imokoamaru
@Imokoamaru Жыл бұрын
Best and worst recyclable/reusable cards. Cards that come back to your hand or into the deck at some point during your turn like the jokers straight, bait doll or runik fountain meanwhile u got situational cards like monsters or spells that just return other specific cards from the gy like salvage or lifeless leafish. Theres plenty of cards that can banish themselves to search but im talking about reusing or reusable resources. Id like to kno the ones with the most value/reward and the most useless ones to avoid
@passaroquetzalcoatlus6205
@passaroquetzalcoatlus6205 Жыл бұрын
Appointer of the Red Lotus was banned because of TTThrust and Trap tracks
@izaiahsundquist6877
@izaiahsundquist6877 Жыл бұрын
After taking a much needed break from Yu-Gi-Oh, I have returned and I cannot believe that Superheavy Samurai is actually a good deck.
@sipherous6362
@sipherous6362 Жыл бұрын
Tldr, link 1 monsters were a mistake
@saltwater6773
@saltwater6773 Жыл бұрын
I used to play naturia never once i thought I'd see a day when naturia card would be on the banlist
@davidmuhs4590
@davidmuhs4590 Жыл бұрын
just to be clear is this why those cards got banned?: stein: not because of a specific deck / interaction but because it can simply bring out problem cards like exterio or x big fusion monster making stein a generic problem? if so why did Konomi take 4 years to figure out thats a problem? naturia sacred tree: naturia card is limited because it makes a different archetype ( runick ) too strong / consistent? instant fusion (different list) : because of tearlaments and probably nothing else because tearlaments was tier 0?
@Teixas666
@Teixas666 Жыл бұрын
on Stein: they probably figured it was a manageable problem at the time....but since then they release a lot of powerful fusion archtypes and made the mistake of making some of their boss monster not demand a proper summon or be locked ottheir archtypes. Naturia sacred tree: pretty much :\ but within natura's own xccontext it makes it so some of their search effects gets majorly buffed. and Konami doesnt seem ot like the idea of a deck like natura being consistent(but allowed Kashtira) instant Fusion: it got hit back then for a reason. if anything the reason(Norden) not only has not changed but now has more options that can do far more .
@oscartorre6003
@oscartorre6003 Жыл бұрын
As someone who played a lot of mathmech way before circular, I wish it wasnt as powerfull as it is. If it didnt have its second effect, Id still be running 3 copies. Its first effect alone would've been more than enough, at least for me.
@Endershock1678
@Endershock1678 Жыл бұрын
I disagree. I'd rather be limited than lose the free Superfac search, since those can easily be compensated with a Small World and Mining, or even called upon later with Alem using Exceed or the Souls cards.
@oscartorre6003
@oscartorre6003 Жыл бұрын
@@Endershock1678 The thing is, I think is very likely that it'll get banned eventually, I hope I'm wrong but is not looking great for circular.
@Endershock1678
@Endershock1678 Жыл бұрын
@@oscartorre6003 Nah, Mathmech is barely scraping through this meta. When we got Marincess of all things topping more than Mathmech, I'm not too worried.
@zerg6205
@zerg6205 Жыл бұрын
WHat ARE those cute Purrely cards that don't exist in Master Duel and Duel Links!?! I'd better save up! (entire channel is about Earth/Machines)
@pi_xi
@pi_xi Жыл бұрын
Gimmick Puppet Nightmare needs an erratum. it should say: “After this card was Special Summoned by the effect of a “Gimmick Puppet” card, you cannot Special Summon any monsters for the rest of this turn, except “Gimmick Puppet” monsters.” However, Fossil Dyna Pachycephalo is much better, anyways.
@bingbongdingdong867
@bingbongdingdong867 Жыл бұрын
I didn't even know Cyber-Stein was unbanned to begin with.
@claytonbruce5124
@claytonbruce5124 Жыл бұрын
I was confused with the list at first because I thought it was for Master Duel 😅 when I noticed Terraforming wasn't mentioned I knew something didn't add up
@easternwoyer3876
@easternwoyer3876 Жыл бұрын
2:45 it could already do that it now just doesn't lock you into shs for doing so
@joema_art
@joema_art Жыл бұрын
Dipping my toes again into yugioh after an extended break, hearing super heavy sams being tier 1 is crazy
@whales312
@whales312 Жыл бұрын
So out of curiosity, idk if you’ve answered this, but do you play competitive yugioh? Do you have premiere tops? I’m Just wondering cuz you’re so well informed in the history of the game
@gonzalosibaja801
@gonzalosibaja801 Жыл бұрын
Thanks again for the video!
@crestfallenhussar895
@crestfallenhussar895 Жыл бұрын
SHS fans had a brief moment of tier one after people dealt with "Tear 0" for so long and after SHS was sooooo bad for YEARS only for Konami to absolutely NUKE them within a month of me hearing SHS was good now. And they slapped them the hardest. WOW.
@ILFMK
@ILFMK Жыл бұрын
my boy cyber stein got banned again, sad
@frudthegamer1012
@frudthegamer1012 Жыл бұрын
i just release two things, one is the fusion monster that's just expulsion opens for more interruption availability with imperm and veiler instead of a niche random people weren't going to side in for belle, or expensive bystials. and the second is it would have been better if Red reboot wasn't banned, they only did that so people would actually buy the traptrix structure deck
@thaddeusgenhelm8979
@thaddeusgenhelm8979 Жыл бұрын
The problem with Red Reboot, as its basically a one size fits all answer to trap decks they generally can't do anything about, is that it just existing in the meta negates the validity of any trap heavy strategy as a general rule. That's a lot of potential deck/design space just erased by a single card.
@frudthegamer1012
@frudthegamer1012 Жыл бұрын
@@thaddeusgenhelm8979 still think it solved the problem, no floodgates no puppet locks, it was a solution that helped.
@thaddeusgenhelm8979
@thaddeusgenhelm8979 Жыл бұрын
@@frudthegamer1012 I mean, sure, it's just a question of if that solution was worth its costs. That's a lot of collateral damage you're allowing, is all.
@justice8718
@justice8718 Жыл бұрын
You can’t fucking target the boss monster.
@frudthegamer1012
@frudthegamer1012 Жыл бұрын
@@justice8718 I read it only after I posted, which is going to be a huge problem, guess ghost belle still works or ash, becuase they don't target
@soma467
@soma467 Жыл бұрын
Cyberstein immunity too powercreep kind of bring joy
@zen4realfightman426
@zen4realfightman426 Жыл бұрын
I wish they would have banned more of kash but maybe it's just because I really hate the deck It's not just because of a terrible duelist or anything. It's cuz the fact that every time I go up against it I don't get any hand traps and they're allowed to combo off completely uninterrupted due to that the only time I beat a kash deck is when they brick which isn't very often
@alpha34098
@alpha34098 Жыл бұрын
Make a better construction of your Deck or Play 60 Card and have a third with Handtraps
@justice8718
@justice8718 Жыл бұрын
Kash is mega boring.
@dokidoki65
@dokidoki65 Жыл бұрын
Using my beloved cyber stein because some people figured out how to actually use it competitively
@CrisRullz
@CrisRullz 10 ай бұрын
4 months later in MD and everyone and their mother is playing kashtira..
@ceznvr
@ceznvr Жыл бұрын
good bye Cyber Stein 😔
@ib5131
@ib5131 Жыл бұрын
Top 10 More Normal Monsters !!!
@angelemmanuelperezmuniz1474
@angelemmanuelperezmuniz1474 Жыл бұрын
Is official I'm playing traditional format instead. Is also the perfect opportunity to push forward speed duel. That's my favorite format anyways.
@KingoftheAbyss
@KingoftheAbyss Жыл бұрын
Rip to shs & purely both got killed before they could shine now one is completely unplayable and the other is just combo but with extra extra steps.
@camdude7234
@camdude7234 Жыл бұрын
I played against a natural/ runic at locals before ban and I was able to win going first with ( I know I will get criticism but I was running D/D/D)
@anthonym-m2610
@anthonym-m2610 Жыл бұрын
BRUH WE NEEED MORE SUPPORT THIS IS BS. Also I found out that high king genghis negate to spells DOESNT work on their turn 😭. I was so blind I didn’t see the “once per your turn”
@theaverageDon
@theaverageDon Жыл бұрын
"It doesn't really have a home" Um, Drytron and 3 Benten would like to have a word 😅
@CrnaStrela
@CrnaStrela Жыл бұрын
It's home full of leak and wind draft created by ishizu shufflers and bystials.
@pro711200
@pro711200 Жыл бұрын
Lol drytron likely still only plays 1
@nodeberiaestaraqui93
@nodeberiaestaraqui93 Жыл бұрын
Drytron is just bad with all the Bystials being at 3
@arrownoir
@arrownoir Жыл бұрын
Not Stein…I love that guy. Justice for Stein.
@rabootfanboysam5068
@rabootfanboysam5068 Жыл бұрын
Its a real good thing that diabolosis got banned cuz if not there was a high chance for that 1 singular copy of circular to get banished and no amount of Cynet Mining or Small world could help out I hope it returns to 3 some day
@Deathmare235
@Deathmare235 Жыл бұрын
It’s not that good the kashtira xyz monsters are the problem
@rabootfanboysam5068
@rabootfanboysam5068 Жыл бұрын
@@Deathmare235 Kashtira are good but Diabolosis multiplied their power by 2
@Deathmare235
@Deathmare235 Жыл бұрын
@@rabootfanboysam5068 that’s cause kashtira is already op
@Endershock1678
@Endershock1678 Жыл бұрын
@@Deathmare235 Nah, Kashtira is a lot more manageable now. Before a good chunk of hands could go into Diablosis and insta win them the game if they won the gamble that you didn't draw Nibiru. Now, they have to actually play the game. Sure, it's still annoying to take down thanks to the Macro Cosmos, but Arise Heart is fragile enough to die to a single Raigeki or Dark Hole as long as they don't draw into lance, so it's not too big of a deal to destroy it then set up your otk. One Imperm into an Accesscode OTK has easily won me games.
@Imokoamaru
@Imokoamaru Жыл бұрын
With all the talk about engines itd be great to kno which are the best and or worst ones what makes them so good why they're viable how they're consistent Etc
@juksleo6257
@juksleo6257 Жыл бұрын
I think they will unban Tidal when we get inevitable Mermail/Atlantean support since the synergy of discarding a water while sending any card to the GY will be crazy good marketing. On that same note, I don't think Redox will ever come back, especially if all of the Ishizus still exist in any capacity
@slenderman4788
@slenderman4788 Жыл бұрын
The Ishizus at 1 are not seeing any play besides in Tearlaments right now, so if anything Redox would see play in some Earth deck, Ishizus aren't gonna break it. It's just like nobody runs Orange Light in Tear decks anymore because it bricks more often than not.
@pro711200
@pro711200 Жыл бұрын
Rulers are genuinely not good cards lol.
@juksleo6257
@juksleo6257 Жыл бұрын
@@pro711200 Blaster and Tempest are pretty tame in this day and age but Tidal and Redox are genuinely busted. Foolish Burial and Monster reborn are still limited and those two can do those while setting up some pretty fucked up interactions with cards that benefit from getting discarded like the aforementioned Ishizus and Atlanteans
@juksleo6257
@juksleo6257 Жыл бұрын
@@slenderman4788 Konami has proven to be really against generic revival effects. Hence why prem is still banned and reborn still limited. If anything, just for the possibility of creating some degeneracy with monsters that weren't built around generic reborns
@Teixas666
@Teixas666 Жыл бұрын
@@slenderman4788 Redox and Tidal are the biggest problems because Earth and Water have the best options ot loop them the ishizu engine cards are all earth fairies and we all know they dont need even more recursion and easier grave access. Tidal would gettoo much from the generic water recovery cards.
@tot3mpted
@tot3mpted Жыл бұрын
vids on the next one would be crazy
@vincentd.gaspard4725
@vincentd.gaspard4725 Жыл бұрын
sometimes I don't understand master duel players sometimes using this card " the red lotus "
@natedoge23
@natedoge23 Жыл бұрын
I'm excited about blaster being set to 1. I think its too support the new volcanics
@R055LE.1
@R055LE.1 Жыл бұрын
"..you still have to able to play the game.." The problem with modern Yu-Gi-Oh in 1 partial sentence
@JamieCraigy
@JamieCraigy Жыл бұрын
Having Blaster at 1 helps my Armed Dragon deck lol
@goomyiscute777
@goomyiscute777 Жыл бұрын
Number 89 feels more like a casualty of Kashtira Shangri-Ira's zone locking crimes than the actual problem card
@Deathmare235
@Deathmare235 Жыл бұрын
Fr thought it was just me but seems like a scapegoat
@gatocochino5594
@gatocochino5594 Жыл бұрын
Diablosis is the problem card. Ira does very little on its own.
@Deathmare235
@Deathmare235 Жыл бұрын
@@gatocochino5594 other way around
@kauanjos3199
@kauanjos3199 Жыл бұрын
Diablosis is way worse
@nodeberiaestaraqui93
@nodeberiaestaraqui93 Жыл бұрын
It's Konami always pushing the new product and not allowing you to play the old cards that do the same
@hyoroemongaming569
@hyoroemongaming569 Жыл бұрын
@You your 'fun' more often than not, involve 5 negates board And if your fun is trash decks, the whichever tier 01 is doesnt matter.
@JackDblade
@JackDblade Жыл бұрын
Haven't bothered with any of these after I got my bls legendary sword master.
@GeeDimitrakis94
@GeeDimitrakis94 Жыл бұрын
There goes my Cyber-Stein meme deck 😢
@DominatorLegend
@DominatorLegend Жыл бұрын
I stopped playing YGO a couple of years ago. No fucking way SHS was meta! Man, at this point it's not out of the question to have Ancient Gear or Flamvell become meta at some point.
@Deathmare235
@Deathmare235 Жыл бұрын
If the support is right same thing happened with Crystal beasts
@kauanjos3199
@kauanjos3199 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry to blow out your water but there's no way ancient gear can be meta, super heavy samurai had a great game plan before they gave it support and their cards had a lot of synergy between them so they just need a little bit of support to make them meta. Not to mention overall it's a more recent deck than ancient gear and ancient gear game plan is basically "make big fusion with no interaction". They need a complete overhaul, it's the same case for red eyes and other decks. It's a Mathmech situation they were a really recent deck and they were a promising rouge contender. They just need a starter and then circular happened
@KhepriX
@KhepriX Жыл бұрын
Also, Cyber Stein was banned because Spright.
@pi_xi
@pi_xi Жыл бұрын
Genex Ally Birdman is great in Treasure Panda Exodia.
@entei7958
@entei7958 Жыл бұрын
Maby do top 10 support archetypes like kaiju yokai girl or bystials
@Deathmare235
@Deathmare235 Жыл бұрын
Be more specific
@entei7958
@entei7958 Жыл бұрын
@@Deathmare235 i mean arhetypes that can't be ther stand alone decks like bystial cards kaiju yokai girls but sean a lot of play in other decks like ash all the kaiju that type cards
@Deathmare235
@Deathmare235 Жыл бұрын
@@entei7958 so engines
@entei7958
@entei7958 Жыл бұрын
@@Deathmare235 no i mean like nightmer arhetype of extra deck cards you can't do a pure nightmer deck becos they don't have eny main deck cards spels or traps but Fenix is in a lot of decks ghost girls are only hand traps kaiju are only interupsions this sets of cards can't make a Beck but are grate in ther on rite in other decks
@cococream7905
@cococream7905 Жыл бұрын
I always thought appointer of the red lotus had like a cloak that covered part of his head, but looking at it in the vid i can see he's just an angry bald man lol Also i dont play yugioh i just like to keep up to date with it
@farmerash
@farmerash Жыл бұрын
Honestly playing Yugioh in PvP gets super damn stale super fast. I tried Master Duel at launch and then again a bit later, and both times I got to the meta decks after like 2 days. And after that everyone else just played the same 2-3 decks with maybe one or two card differences if you checked their deck. Going trough that slog just to maybe find one duel in 15 where someone else was playing jank and have a bit of fun is definitely not worth it. I'd recommend getting Legacy of the Duelist Link Evolution when it's next on sale on Steam because it's more fun to play against AI with different decks. And also nothing prevents you from just using forbidden cards in your deck that were most likely banned because other archetypes abused it, not the one they were made for.
@kauanjos3199
@kauanjos3199 Жыл бұрын
​@@farmerash don't play jank decks bro, before you call me meta slave, you need to know that a lot of decks are dated, that's inevitable in any card game, you should focus on good deck, i doesn't need to be tier 1 or anything just good and competent(of course if you want to play the tier 1 deck you can do that). There's multiple rouge decks that are really good and can beat the top contenders. Jank decks can be fun but if you want to do that play older formats or play with a friend. People are playing ranked in master duel to win and get the gems so we really can't do much about it
@LeafeonLive
@LeafeonLive Жыл бұрын
Feels like Konami is watching these videos considering some of these bans XD
@PiantaBroker
@PiantaBroker Жыл бұрын
i hate cyber stein in general. I play Vaylantz for fun sometimes, and when I saw people including that. ...ugh
@Kain1805
@Kain1805 Жыл бұрын
So when is the banlist getting into the game? Played against a player with Cyber Stein today and I'm sick of seeing it
@TheSaltedGawd
@TheSaltedGawd Жыл бұрын
All I heard is that Gong was too Strong for the game
@Protect_all_ljf3forms
@Protect_all_ljf3forms Жыл бұрын
Why gamma? It’s conditions for use makes it balanced.
@Teixas666
@Teixas666 Жыл бұрын
it directly counter handtraps. and you actually get to plus off it for the "low" cost of having ot run a garnet(Driver)
@Protect_all_ljf3forms
@Protect_all_ljf3forms Жыл бұрын
@@Teixas666 which is why people play it. You also cannot have any cards on field making it useful going second otherwise it’s just a brick in hand which why it was fair to use. At 1 having a 50/50 chance of having the brick makes it not worth it anymore.
@ApocRNG
@ApocRNG Жыл бұрын
Time to unban Electrumite already... just set it at 1 and nothing will change to the meta, it will just make any pend player who wants to use it happier.
@kishinasura2240
@kishinasura2240 Жыл бұрын
I dont get why they hit the kashtira and mathmech archetypes but not the tear/ishizu archetypes 😢
@AlexMeza2
@AlexMeza2 Жыл бұрын
Because tear is already dead
@Deathmare235
@Deathmare235 Жыл бұрын
Tf it’s already dead what else wanna piss on it too
@kishinasura2240
@kishinasura2240 Жыл бұрын
@@AlexMeza2 not dead enough to let me play during my own turn
@AlexMeza2
@AlexMeza2 Жыл бұрын
@@kishinasura2240 I'm assuming you're a master duel player. This video is about the tcg banlist
@redace4821
@redace4821 Жыл бұрын
Complain about Tears which is Master Duel but talk about Kashtira and Mathmech which got hit in TCG but untouched in Master Duel. Which btw, one of the archetypes didn't even come out yet.
@fattswaller8792
@fattswaller8792 Жыл бұрын
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