Exploring a high voltage power supply

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bigclivedotcom

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3 жыл бұрын

From the same range as another unit I looked at recently, this one has an open PCB power supply with a very retro, but good high voltage PSU.
Unlike many of the cheap eBay modules, this one hasn't skimped on components and pushed them hard. Instead it seems a logical and well thought-out design with the components kept within their ratings.
The filter across the transistor and complex feedback array to give fast transistor switching show that the person who designed this was knowledgeable in this area of design.
Current draw of this unit is around 100mA at 12V meaning it might be suited to use with a small solar panel in a remote location to keep cabins from going stale.
For those who haven't guessed, the unit is a vehicle ozone generator, which would actually be OK for freshening a stale vehicle interior, but might be a bit too strong for continuous use in a small vehicle cab.
The high negative voltage on the spikes causes a plasma discharge at the spike tips, and the charged air then gets attracted towards the positive plate, causing a surprisingly strong airflow with no moving parts. The plasma discharge causes oxygen molecules to break into separate oxygen atoms that can recombine temporarily as ozone and other molecules in the same process found in nature. These active components of air are a natural air sanitiser that has the ability to deactivate airborne contaminants like viruses, bacteria and spores. Although ozone is harmful in large quantities, it is safe at the levels found in nature.
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@dekjet
@dekjet 3 жыл бұрын
Used car resellers use devices like this to get rid of smells left by the previous owners. It's not meant for continuous or while driving. They just throw it in for a few hours and let the ozone work it's magic.
@ElvenSpellmaker
@ElvenSpellmaker 3 жыл бұрын
Nooooooo, no "ONE MOMENT PLEASE" at 00:56, life = ruined. You know when you walk up stairs and misjudge another stair and you get a weird lurch. I was expecting him to say it so much I felt a lurch in my stomach. XDD
@3v1Bunny
@3v1Bunny 3 жыл бұрын
It almost looks like the circuit is meant to last... who ever was designing this will be fired soon because of this review. XD
@NuclearTopSpot
@NuclearTopSpot 3 жыл бұрын
reason for layoff: panned obsolescence
@ReinoGoo
@ReinoGoo 3 жыл бұрын
@@NuclearTopSpot Or obsolete planning.
@ianbutler1983
@ianbutler1983 3 жыл бұрын
Sent to work at Wuhan bio lab.
@BrosBrothersLP
@BrosBrothersLP 3 жыл бұрын
This is really not true for most companys. I work for a german electronics manufacturer and we plan for a lifetime of around 20~ years Thats just limited by needing to replace pretty much all capacitors and protective components after that time
@ianbutler1983
@ianbutler1983 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrosBrothersLP I am sure that is true, but that is Germany, where workmanship and quality is still valued over quick profits. To an extent that is true in many US made things as well. Not as much in Chine, where most things now seem to be made.
@ronniepirtlejr2606
@ronniepirtlejr2606 3 жыл бұрын
It would be nice to own a company & have big Clive complement the quality of your products. You know you're on the right path !👍
@scottholmes4388
@scottholmes4388 3 жыл бұрын
The spacing for creepage and clearance is very well done.
@mulhatton
@mulhatton 3 жыл бұрын
Gather ‘round... gather ‘round... new Clive video!!! Yay 😁
@bggibbons
@bggibbons 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, Clive. I have been into electronics for 50 years, partly due to my dad being a radar mechanic.
@hullinstruments
@hullinstruments 3 жыл бұрын
Another ozone generator!! Thank God!!! I thought I was going into withdrawal without 10 videos about them every week. 😁😁 just kidding Clive. I enjoy all of your videos!
@HellJustFroze
@HellJustFroze 3 жыл бұрын
I read the title as "exploding", was very excited, then very sad. Not that this isn't interesting, but... The explosion containment pie dish hungers for more.
@alphonsesynrem28
@alphonsesynrem28 3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter if the videos are similar. Just keep on making videos. I really enjoy watching your videos. Thank you.
@SlyPearTree
@SlyPearTree 3 жыл бұрын
Clive is probably on a list by now: "No one needs that many ozone generators, we better keep an eye on him until we figure out what he's up to."
@lastborn8s
@lastborn8s 3 жыл бұрын
Here I go letting the cat out the bag again … Clive is a MI agent … between the MRE training …having a high function internet connection and web server while living in a “remote” island that doesn’t get full mail services … he is connected … you are a witness to government espionage in a public domain … the perfect crime … he is saving humanity and the UK way by crowd sorcery … drawing out us outlaw types generational knowledge and our best ideas!!! So ya he is on a “list” …. LARP
@mor4y
@mor4y 3 жыл бұрын
Don't joke about it, the amount of US mechanics who've had their door kicked in by the police/ATF for buying "too many oil filters" is staggering.... its only sheer luck that someone hasn't been killed in one of these raids.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
I plan to secretly ozonate the house of lords so all their red robes go pink.
@sciencehegewald5367
@sciencehegewald5367 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigclivedotcom that is pure magic hahaha
@espenbgh2540
@espenbgh2540 2 жыл бұрын
​@@bigclivedotcom"I plan to secretly ozonate the house of lords so all their red robes go pink" - just my thought here he reveals his communist inclinations. Ha ha ha
@mihamaker
@mihamaker 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to know that company like that still exists that have product engineered to last. Not just to work until in a year or two.
@GM-vk8jw
@GM-vk8jw 3 жыл бұрын
After watching Big Clive for ages I actually recognised the building blocks on the board and thought that’s a Cockcroft Walton Generator there, that’ll take the AC and make high voltage and when the schematic came out I felt a warm glow inside. I am actually starting to understand what the doodles mean! There’s a difference between between reading a schematic and actually understanding the ‘why have they done it like that?’ Long may you continue to reverse engineer stuff 🙏
@Kae6502
@Kae6502 3 жыл бұрын
Old school, through-hole technology. So... beautiful... *sniffles* :)
@Darieee
@Darieee 3 жыл бұрын
5:20 would be super cool to see this start oscillating on a scope ❤️
@the.real.stunt.man_manslau4623
@the.real.stunt.man_manslau4623 3 жыл бұрын
These in depth explorations of everyday things are why I come here, keep up the great work
@Purple431
@Purple431 3 жыл бұрын
YAY! FINALLY AN OZONE GENERATOR THAT'S NOT POTTED IN RESIN!
@Electronichub_05
@Electronichub_05 3 жыл бұрын
I hate when they put them in resin 😂
@Purple431
@Purple431 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I love when you can get the driver to make a high voltage supply ⚡
@Electronichub_05
@Electronichub_05 3 жыл бұрын
@@Purple431 yes 👍
@williamsquires3070
@williamsquires3070 3 жыл бұрын
Ohhh, I love it when the manufacture stuff without ruining it with potting compound. 😊
@mickward2775
@mickward2775 3 жыл бұрын
I'm on a bigclivedotcom marathon and just got a new episode While building a power supply. Already gave a 👍 I know it's going to be a good video
@agnirudrapal
@agnirudrapal 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine Dave Jones being this satisfied with a product.
@whitcwa
@whitcwa 3 жыл бұрын
Only if he got it for free...
@dogwalker666
@dogwalker666 3 жыл бұрын
No Worries.
@arpansarkar5865
@arpansarkar5865 3 жыл бұрын
Never
@AndyFletcherX31
@AndyFletcherX31 3 жыл бұрын
"a real bobby-dazzler!"
@Hayward1979
@Hayward1979 3 жыл бұрын
...is it just me or does Dave annoy others by trying to finish the sentences of every guest he has on. Just not needed. We know ur clever Dave.
@confreeknor1
@confreeknor1 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, i can see you have upgraded ur recording equipment, great success, have a good day sir. Just found ur channel, ill keep a watch from now on, so here's something for the algorithm
@johnmcclain3887
@johnmcclain3887 3 жыл бұрын
Very nicely analyzed, Clive, and as you say, a very nice little high voltage circuit. Thanks for an interesting look.
@michaelbuckley3808
@michaelbuckley3808 3 жыл бұрын
There's something magical about hearing "green crustiness" in a Scottish accent.
@MMuraseofSandvich
@MMuraseofSandvich 3 жыл бұрын
Even better, there's an expectation of hearing phrases like that in different contexts, whether it's electrical or alcoholic.
@robbieaussievic
@robbieaussievic 3 жыл бұрын
..... Or, 'Get in my belly baby !'.
@Nono-hk3is
@Nono-hk3is 3 жыл бұрын
Only seems to be available from the UK, and shipping to the US costs more than the device. Alas.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
It does seem to be a UK thing. It's probably banned in the USA by California.
@roseelectronics4582
@roseelectronics4582 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigclivedotcom what's the best soldering iron made in the UK?
@quadsofthestoneage9333
@quadsofthestoneage9333 3 жыл бұрын
Loving these element-separating devices. Electrolysis in gas and fluids is greatly underrated.
@andymouse
@andymouse 3 жыл бұрын
When is an ionizer not an ionizer......when its an Ozone generator ! nice tear down, and another satisfied customer, the Green Band denotes 0.5% Tolerance, not, degradation of the paint from ozone , this backs up build quality...cheers.
@stephenbell9257
@stephenbell9257 3 жыл бұрын
It is highly unlikely that they used more expensive 0.5% resistors in a circuit like this where close tolerance is not necessary for correct circuit function. 5% tolerance resistors would be perfectly fine for operation of this circuit. Also, if you look closely at the 4.7ohm snubber resistor on the PCB the multiplier band ,which should be gold, is distinctly greenish further indicating that the gold paint has degraded.
@andymouse
@andymouse 3 жыл бұрын
@@stephenbell9257 Maybe, but thats still a lot of Ozone if it can attack the paint, I have seen resistors in some pretty aggressive environment's and not seen just one band effected, I have seen all though, I will review the footage...cheers.
@Sametribeeverytime
@Sametribeeverytime 3 жыл бұрын
I have this model in my car, I no longer bother with air fresheners, it makes your car smell kind of like a hospital/sterile smell. Was impressed for the size so got my dad one for his car too. The only negative is the lead is soldered on, I would have preferred a removable power cord as you have to buy a 12v socket extender if you place it far from the socket.
@fazergazer
@fazergazer 3 жыл бұрын
A thing a beauty is a wonder to behold!
@Leroys_Stuff
@Leroys_Stuff 3 жыл бұрын
AvE
@patchvonbraun
@patchvonbraun 5 ай бұрын
Way long ago, when dinosaurs still ruled the earth, and I was about 11, I built an "electronic combination lock" from a kit. This thing drove a small relay. I operated it a few times, and it stopped working. The driver transistor for the relay got fried by back-EMF from the relay coil. I cannot remember the name of the company that made this little gem, but I wrote them after I fixed it, and suggested that they include a diode across the relay to keep the transistor from letting out the magic smoke. That was, oh, good lord, 50 years ago. Cripes!
@stephenstalker5358
@stephenstalker5358 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Clive!
@d.t.4523
@d.t.4523 3 жыл бұрын
It should be safe enough, I can't smell it from here. 👍 🤣
@TheManThatCan1002
@TheManThatCan1002 3 жыл бұрын
Speaking of stabbing meat with a spike we need more Big Clive's electric cooking, and distillation. What if you put a steak instead of ground meat product. Try to carbonate/distill absinthe ♥️
@charliepearce8767
@charliepearce8767 3 жыл бұрын
I had one in my custom van here in Australia 1983... It was very noisy with a constant "hiss" . You could touch the pins with a buzzing noise till you made contact with it and at the same time touch your passenger (girlfriend) on the nose with a good electral cracking sound and electrocution.. Always got the show on the road...
@aamiddel8646
@aamiddel8646 3 жыл бұрын
Just to mention. I believe the input diode is in part to prevent the smoothing capacitor to smooth the whole 12V system. With the diode it does not need to smooth voltage drops when for instance the wipers are turned on or the brake lights come on. Keep up the good work.
@snakezdewiggle6084
@snakezdewiggle6084 3 жыл бұрын
Cars run at 14.8 volts. The 12 volt battery is only used to store energy for the engine startup.
@aamiddel8646
@aamiddel8646 3 жыл бұрын
@@snakezdewiggle6084 The cars voltage is generally referred to as being 12V. This 12V system powers all the electric equipment on board like lights, wipers, radio etc. During running of the car the power is delivered by the generator but over the same 12V system. And yes it is than a couple volts higher. So if the diode is not there the capacitor is 'trying to smooth' the whole system not just the ionizer. And if the the capacitance is not big this is not going to work when switching for instance the brake lights (non-LED) or while turning on the wipers. At the other hand i don't think the capacitor is needed as the ionizer will still work at the shortly lower voltage. And no capacitor than there is no need for the diode unless you want to prevent wrong wiring.
@snakezdewiggle6084
@snakezdewiggle6084 3 жыл бұрын
@@aamiddel8646 okay, if you say so. ;)
@stridermt2k
@stridermt2k 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! Press onward Clive!
@MegaVoltMeister
@MegaVoltMeister 3 жыл бұрын
I really like the design of the transformer. Sectioning up the secondary to reduce HV stress on the windings.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
It's a common approach. They tend to be reliable.
@rasmis
@rasmis 3 жыл бұрын
Searched German eBay for “puremate”. It asked me if I meant “pure hate”.
@MadScientist267
@MadScientist267 3 жыл бұрын
10n forms a tank with the primary (and feedback)
@robertw1871
@robertw1871 3 жыл бұрын
Would the cap not need to be in parallel for oscillation, I’m not sure how the 180deg phase shift would occur with that gain structure, I think it’s more likely to ensure the startup conditions are met by providing a kick from primary to the feedback that doesn’t depend on the feedback winding, it probably is almost out of circuit at the actual oscillation frequency... it’s definitely odd though, I’d have to simulate it... I’d bet it’s fairly clever whatever it’s doing because it doesn’t seem like one penny is wasted building it...
@MadScientist267
@MadScientist267 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertw1871 That cap isn't really about feedback at all. It's purely resonance. The primary and feedback are electrically one coil as far as the cap is concerned, because they are in series. The phase shift for oscillation is accomplished by the feedback winding and primary being out of phase by way of the center tap and the components hanging off the base of the transistor... Start up bias is provided thru the 1k and 39k. That cap is mostly to stabilize operation; without it, the circuit will usually run, but will tend to be chaotic and lose some power to the instabilities, and operation is much more influenced by load. The most basic version of this circuit that still works is a single transistor and resistor with a center tapped primary. The resistor goes from the feedback side of the winding to the base, and usually has to be on the low side (a couple-few k) to get enough bias to start it... But it generates a lot of extra heat in the transistor and even transformer, and changes frequency at the drop of a hat because there's nothing really defining it. It ends up running with thick harmonics and whatever frequency "makes sense" at the time as it relates to load, inductance of the transformer, and parasitic capacitance of the windings.
@1973retrorabbit
@1973retrorabbit 3 жыл бұрын
Probably a reasonable thing to use instead of a can to refresh your vehicle's aircon vents. Plug it in and run the engine, air system on recirculation with the windows up... give it 5 to 15 mins and then unplug it. Part of your car care routine, rather than for using it while you're driving.
@wingerrrrrrrrr
@wingerrrrrrrrr 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it have a deleterious effect on any rubber bits and seals in the car?
@JaronLindow
@JaronLindow 3 жыл бұрын
So this is what it sounds like to have an expert explain something that is simple but also way over your head.
@jcr723
@jcr723 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your channel
@ChrisB257
@ChrisB257 3 жыл бұрын
My memory may be (probably) dull by now but am thinking back to the "Cockroft-Walton Multiplier" method for step up. Those diodes look a bit familiar in their config. Interesting Nice description Clive. :)
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
It is a multiplier. Running at high frequency and at a high initial voltage, so less stages needed.
@nutgone100
@nutgone100 3 жыл бұрын
See, stuff like this really interests me, I rebuild magnetos for vintage & classic engines (everything from lawnmowers to vintage cars) so I wind high voltage coils a lot. I’d like to make my own anti-burglar system for my workshop, loosely based on an electric fence unit, maybe running through an old 12v car ignition coil. I already have something similar using the coil’s own magnetism to run a vibrating contact (no transistors), but that’s just used to test old Bakelite insulators & often needs a flick to get the contacts moving.
@MrTomasssh
@MrTomasssh 3 жыл бұрын
I love how Clive keeps saying "modern lead free solders". And I agree it does feel that way. But the RoHS went into effect in 2006. That's 15 years ago. ;-) (Feel old now? I do)
@Roy_Tellason
@Roy_Tellason Жыл бұрын
Hell, I'm still using rolls of solder that I picked up in the 1980s!
@jimsvideos7201
@jimsvideos7201 3 жыл бұрын
I dare you relabel it "electric harmonica" and re-list it.
@gary_rumain_you_peons
@gary_rumain_you_peons 3 жыл бұрын
"for in-car use."
@SigEpBlue
@SigEpBlue 3 жыл бұрын
"Only dropped once."
@ehsnils
@ehsnils 3 жыл бұрын
"Once upon a time in the west" would have had a different outcome.
@ddanielmiester
@ddanielmiester 3 жыл бұрын
Green *IS* a tolerated tolerance band color. It indicates a 0.5% tolerance
@DjResR
@DjResR 3 жыл бұрын
Probably they used brass powder with glue for gold band and it oxidized to green, I have found quite few from salvaged electronics where that band has turned green._
@mirandaleis8576
@mirandaleis8576 3 жыл бұрын
But I digress!! Haha 😹 you are Soo hilarious this was a great breakdown
@objection_your_honor
@objection_your_honor 3 жыл бұрын
I thought all these operated in pulse mode! I see that I was wrong. Did you get a chance to measure what frequency the primary (at the collector of NPN) was running at?
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't check the frequency, but tens of kHz.
@dcallan812
@dcallan812 3 жыл бұрын
looks very old school, but with that it might be reliable.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
It does look a good reliable design. I think it has a long history.
@phonotical
@phonotical 3 жыл бұрын
I saw "it's not potted" and I'm thinking... Should it be?... No, no it should not 😂 it is also not a unicorn
@alanhoggard4554
@alanhoggard4554 3 жыл бұрын
I ran an ozone generator in my bathroom and it corroded the chrome off of my faucet.
@BradTech.
@BradTech. 3 жыл бұрын
how intriguing
@davidadams421
@davidadams421 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I'd love to see this on a circuit simulator.
@robert_g_fbg
@robert_g_fbg 3 жыл бұрын
The gold band on the resistors turned green? Patina color of copper/brass is green too; appears as if the pigment oxidized.
@MadScientist267
@MadScientist267 3 жыл бұрын
Heh plausible
@vmelkon
@vmelkon 3 жыл бұрын
That's normal. Ozone is a strong oxidizer. Probably the soldiers will get quickly covered by SnO, the leads will get some iron oxide, the plastic on the copper winding will crack. Ozone is a problem for rubbers.
@XD-te6vj
@XD-te6vj 3 жыл бұрын
Exposure to ozone Can cause eye, nose, throat and lung irritation, cough and shortness of breath. May exacerbate chronic respiratory diseases such as asthma. Is likely to increase hospital admissions and emergency room visits for respiratory disease. Can also adversely affect indoor plants, and damage materials such as rubber, electrical wire coatings, and fabrics.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
At extreme levels yes. But it also occurs in nature and is an essential part of air as an active component.
@robertbox5399
@robertbox5399 3 жыл бұрын
I would say this is a Hartley oscillator of sorts with the inductors going to Vcc instead of GND to save on bias resistors. The base cap and collector resistor probably help with starting. The other stuff on the base is to get the thing biased into conduction with 1uF being a short at ac. Hate oscillator circuits!!! Lol
@harryconover289
@harryconover289 3 жыл бұрын
Nicely built , but I really hate the smell of ozone
@leexyz6398
@leexyz6398 3 жыл бұрын
looks to me like a riff on the Royer Oscillator. the 10nF helps setup the resonant freq.
@AnubhavArun
@AnubhavArun 3 жыл бұрын
It would be awesome if you could also go in dept of computer powersupply. Like what differentiates between 80 Plus Gold with 80 Plus Platinum. Though these powersupply's are super expensive so I don't know whether it would be feasible
@eDoc2020
@eDoc2020 3 жыл бұрын
With a circuit like that I might have put the LED in antiparallel across the transistor base-emitter junction. It would clamp negative spikes which could otherwise appear at the base and more importantly it would light up only when the circuit is actually running.
@JoshStLouis314
@JoshStLouis314 3 жыл бұрын
Lovely find. It's always a bit disappointing to open up a product and find the goodies potted in resin/tar/epoxy.
@grantgrow
@grantgrow 3 жыл бұрын
I just want to get a heart Icon from Clive
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
Here you go.
@gordonlawrence1448
@gordonlawrence1448 3 жыл бұрын
If that 10n was a bit bigger say 100n (between primary and feedback) I would have said it was to help with self resonance and take some stress off the transistor.
@twocvbloke
@twocvbloke 3 жыл бұрын
Would be fun seeing what the thing would do to the vehicle electrics if the metal cut through the wire insulation... :P
@s.hoffman7205
@s.hoffman7205 3 жыл бұрын
The cigarette lighter fuse of the car will blow.
@christophmuller3511
@christophmuller3511 3 жыл бұрын
@@s.hoffman7205 no, the current sustained by the secondary side is tiny, no way the fuse would blow.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
It would arc and smell, but it's very low power.
@AsphaltAntelope
@AsphaltAntelope 3 жыл бұрын
I wish there were affiliate links to buy the things Big Clive reviews. I want a car ozone generator and having one that Big Clive doesn't think is shit would be great!
@t1d100
@t1d100 3 жыл бұрын
An Ebay search makes me think that this is the model "PM60." There seems to also be a model PM100. The company info on the PM60 has a UK address, so maybe this is better built, because it is not from China?
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
They all originate from China. They are branded for the resellers.
@seannot-telling9806
@seannot-telling9806 3 жыл бұрын
Clive I know why they didn’t use a cheapie Chinese stuff. They wanted to protect there reputation and not have a failure after a short time.
@kimchristensen2175
@kimchristensen2175 3 жыл бұрын
The green bands mean that the resistors are 0.5% tolerance.
@johnmurrell3175
@johnmurrell3175 3 жыл бұрын
I think the 10nF capacitor its there to form the resonant circuit and determine the output frequency. I wonder how much RFI the circuit emits and at what frequency - has it got type approval ?
@tuopeeks
@tuopeeks 3 жыл бұрын
Nice reusable transformer for projects. I guess you could probably run a neon tube from that transformer with out the multiplier.
@petersage5157
@petersage5157 3 жыл бұрын
If the resistors are J/5%/gold tolerance band, I suspect there's copper in the paint. Copper + ozone = verdigris. I had never thought about this until now; it's good to know if you need to repair electronics that have been in corrosive environments. Could the 10 nanofart capacitor between the primary and feedback windings help to set the frequency of the flyback oscillator?
@Bleats_Sinodai
@Bleats_Sinodai 3 жыл бұрын
I need one.
@UhrwerkKlockwerx
@UhrwerkKlockwerx 3 жыл бұрын
Ooooooh, finally! NOT POTTED high voltage supply!
@rileyemery925
@rileyemery925 3 жыл бұрын
Ok so I want to attempt to anodize titanium with a taser module...tell me if you think this would work please
@Ryan6.022
@Ryan6.022 3 жыл бұрын
Hi random person you don't need high voltage to anodize titanium. Go to the "thought emporium" channel and he has a video on the process. I'll give a brief summary: Supplies needed *Salt *Water *Large clear glass or plastic bowl or tote *Carbon rod (or other suitable electrode) *Variable dc power supply Make a salt water bath hook the negative to the carbon rod submerse it in the water. Attach the positive lead to your titanium and then submerge it in the water. The voltage setting of the power supply determines the color of the anodization. Allowing you to select the color but it also means selecting the thickness of the oxide as these are related. Apologies if I got something wrong it's been a few years since I've done this.
@Kachel94
@Kachel94 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Clive, I have some old smart home equipment that our local ISP decided to not support after only a couple of years and replaced with Google smart home stuff. Would you like these to tear down? I don't want to see the go to waste!
@JimEdmiston
@JimEdmiston 3 жыл бұрын
Clive, thank you for sharing. A lot of commenters are talking about this product being unavailable in the USA. I'm wondering how I can look it up? I've scanned the comments and not seen anything about a model number or manufacturer.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
I think it may be sold with a similar number but different brand.
@groot6830
@groot6830 3 жыл бұрын
Possibly designed to leave on while vehicle not in use to stop mould.
@seanj1984
@seanj1984 3 жыл бұрын
They are silver bands on the resistors the ozone discolored them
@JJ-kr6ky
@JJ-kr6ky 3 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see you probe it with the mini scope to see the frequency it oscillates at and how to vary the frequency by substituting components
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
There'll be an ideal resonant frequency for the transformer.
@makeracistsafraidagain
@makeracistsafraidagain 3 жыл бұрын
More than $50 US. Probably worth it.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
Not too expensive here.
@bryaninglis
@bryaninglis 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect review...just bought one :) lol
@bryaninglis
@bryaninglis 3 жыл бұрын
@Eddie Hitler174448437567
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
I had to get mine from a different source. They don't ship any of their products to the Isle of Man.
@gertebert
@gertebert 3 жыл бұрын
When CuriousMarc is stuck he always asks Clive for help!
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
Only if he's doing it by covert means.
@DenkyManner
@DenkyManner 3 жыл бұрын
Power supply wire pushed hard against edge of metal plate that can't be touched from the outside. I'm sure that's fine.
@deathruddlesdeathruddles5438
@deathruddlesdeathruddles5438 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Clive, there's a new mini dishwasher called bob. Its got a uv cycle for sanitisation. The uvc tube is behind what looks like a plastic window inside the dishwasher, can you do an investigation to see if the uvc would actually get through the plastic?
@loukashareangas4420
@loukashareangas4420 3 жыл бұрын
Clive, isn't that a one and a half stage multiplier instead of the 3 stage you said? Am I missing something? I thought that one stage consisted of two caps and two diodes. The missing cap and diode also have places on the pcb as well, they are just not fitted.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
Technically, yes.
@noelj62
@noelj62 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine BigClive running all his ionizers all at once 😉
@josephking6515
@josephking6515 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, wouldn't that be a gas. 😵
@peregrine1970
@peregrine1970 3 жыл бұрын
Instant ozone hole repair.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
The ozone layer works by the continuous cycling between oxygen and ozone. You can't really just send more up.
@SigEpBlue
@SigEpBlue 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigclivedotcom Why send it up, when you can have your own? 😜
@MyProjectBoxChannel
@MyProjectBoxChannel 3 жыл бұрын
It's a little bit like a high voltage Joule Thief😜
@EsotericArctos
@EsotericArctos 3 жыл бұрын
I had a look on ebay. Seems these are still there at a very reasonable price for the build. They seem to be mostly available in UK / Europe.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
It's rebadged around the world. They seem to come from one Chinese manufacturer.
@EsotericArctos
@EsotericArctos 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigclivedotcom I'll see if I can find something similar. I quite like the circuit design of these
@ehsnils
@ehsnils 3 жыл бұрын
Turn it off when filling fuel. And I prefer negative ions over negative vibes.
@millomweb
@millomweb 3 жыл бұрын
410 Is that 100µF 100V capacitor supposed to smooth the voltage of a whole vehicle ? Will it do any more of an effective job than a humongous lead-acid battery ? I'm puzzled that there isn't a resistor upstream of it to allow it to smooth the downstream side of the circuit. Incidentally WTF is that whine on 12V car power supplies ?........or is it from the 240V inverter I was using - to power the laptop to feed music into the Aux in on the audio system.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
The capacitor just acts as a local buffer to stabilize the supply.
@senddrews8225
@senddrews8225 3 жыл бұрын
This PM60 Car Air Purifier Air Ionizer may be using a standard CCFL transformer.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
It's a similar transformer to those used in CCFL drivers and some ignitors.
@unique3phase
@unique3phase 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for these videos. There is a product called Fast Start for rv air conditioning systems. It is pretty expensive and I am wondering what is inside.
@unique3phase
@unique3phase 3 жыл бұрын
Micro-air easy start. $300 for a small box that helps air conditioners on rvs start on 15 amp circuit.
@fredricksimen
@fredricksimen 3 жыл бұрын
@@unique3phase just hazarding a guess here, and I'm neither an engineer nor an HVAC technician. But I know my home window AC units (110V) pull a surge current at startup much higher than their draw while running. I imagine that surge is what's needed to get the compressor up to operating speed. So I'm guessing the easy start system you described is a capacitor bank that can help supply the surge current to start the vehicle's AC on a 15A hookup without undue voltage drop affecting anything else powered through the vehicle's distribution panel. Again, this is just a guess, consult an engineer :>
@steveelle2169
@steveelle2169 3 жыл бұрын
After watching all these ion/ozone generator videos here I have a question. What determines the amount of negative ions or ozone that gets generated from these devices? I’ve seen some very expensive Swedish ion generators that claim they don’t produce ozone. Thanks
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
Many units claim they produce no ozone despite producing a tiny trace level. It's because of the anti-ozone brigade. The number of ions that can be made is also completely made up by most sellers. However, it's massive. Just one litre of air contains:- 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 gas molecules.
@Ecclesiasticus
@Ecclesiasticus 3 жыл бұрын
I would very much like to see a DIY project (slayer exciter, tesla coil or ozone generator) with all custom components, using only the transformer from a unit like this. To be honest, i just want to convert a 220v plasma globe into a 9v mini slayer exciter, and have no idea how.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
It would be easier to create a slayer from scratch.
@Tassie-Devil
@Tassie-Devil 3 жыл бұрын
Where is a link to buy this unit? Looks very well designed.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
It goes under different names in different countries. All from one Chinese manufacturer.
@ManWithBeard1990
@ManWithBeard1990 3 жыл бұрын
Talking about tolerance bands on resistors... I have recently acquired a couple of metal film resistor kits with many different values. However, unlike with most carbon film resistors where the tolerance band is often gold, this isn't the case here. Most are brown but there are other colours too I think. This may be because the metal film resistors are blue and not tan, but I find them hard to read. The problem is that it's hard for me to tell in which direction to read them. Any tips to tell in which direction to read them?
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
I find it hard to read the blue resistors. If you test some and compare the bands it will give a clue, but measuring may be best.
@SkippiiKai
@SkippiiKai Жыл бұрын
Glad I'm not the only one.
@MostlyInteresting
@MostlyInteresting 3 жыл бұрын
My room cleaning ozone generator runs at about 80 Watts into the high voltage. A little more with the fan.
@MostlyInteresting
@MostlyInteresting 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's a beast it will run you right out of the house in three or four minutes.
@gert_kruger
@gert_kruger 3 жыл бұрын
Found the same device branded as Neotec XJ-600. In the product description, it says it can collect dust. Did you find that it does?
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
The dust collection is incidental to the operation. More of a nuisance on these units.
@electroniquepassion
@electroniquepassion 3 жыл бұрын
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