Thank you for the valuable video. I think it's something that many enthusiasts can consider together.

growing up in teesside, seeing those alx300s used to be such a common sight. grew up riding the t and v reg ones on the 36, and almost certainly will have been on 22026 many times. its a shame one of the older ones was never preserved, but love that this one is. hopefully itll see its old 37 livery once its fixed

I wasn't even born in 1949 and I'd take the Crossley all day long. The younger generations can't look even 5 years before they were born. I've always been able to look at music, movies and other things that were many generations before my time and appreciate them

I find usually these videos interesting personally. The buses I personally grew up with these buses in Dublin are as follows: 1. Volvo / Leyland Olympians (Dublin Spec version) 2. Volvo B6BLE Wrightbus Crusader 3. Volvo B7TL ALX400 (2000 - 2006 variants) 3. Volvo B9TL Enviro 500 (2005 & 2007 variants) 4. Volvo B9TL Enviro 400 (2007 & 2008 variants) 5. Volvo B9TL Wrightbus Gemini 1 (2008, 2009 & Airlink variants) However, I kind of get this feeling where, I find that the older buses age very well than the modern buses in my opinion.

Very interesting video thanks for creating. In terms of missing buses been preserved, Its worth noting that we have a gap in preservation in the fact that at least all the Wright Fusions from 1998-2005 are all scrapped now. Therefore the history of the first Low Floor Bendybuses in the UK has been lost forever. When i go to running days i dont tend to ignore Halfcab buses as these still tell a story

This is an excellent video Maxson, I'm glad I could put you in contact with Rhys for it. My personal belief is that all buses at least deserve a chance to see a future beyond regular service - Especially if it fills a void in history. There's loads of buses from the past I can think of (Such as many UK bendy bus types, and many of the former trolleybuses of various cities) that are now completely lost to time, and that's a huge shame. I hope that the future is bright for preservation.

You wouldn’t have the buses of today had it not been for pioneers like my old Company AEC (ASSOCIATED EQUIPMENT COMPANY) who developed the “B” type omnibus of 1912 to the ROUTEMASTER of 1958, and had “stokes” of BL not intervened but had given them the time to develop the FRM (rear-engined) variant. In partnership with RICARDO performance engineering they also developed the straight-six Diesel engine to become one of the smoothest and Best “cold-starters”. I’m afraid that the likes of VOLVO would not have had a look in at our home market had AEC still existed❤️

Well this has certainly given a new perspective off on bus preservation. And it really is just the case of appreciating what we have, while we have it as things are constantly changing in the world, and has newer generations enter, older things are more neglected.

Super! Always so nice to be here with you! Great experience! :)

I can see that there's a single decked Wright Axcess Scania amongst the buses; if I got hold of that, I would've had it repainted into the Roadcar Connect 6 Lo-Liner livery introduced in February 1999, along with giving it the blue scroll with white lettering and numbering destination blind; I remember going on these buses with my mum when I was 3 and 4 years old on the route between Skegness and Lincoln, but I didn't find these as amusing as the double deckered East Lancs Pyoneers (which were branded as Connect 6 Hi-Liner), as I always liked going upstairs to get a good view of the route between Skegness, Horncastle and Lincoln....

This is why it is very important for owners of preserved buses to have a Will, and if they don't have one, to make a Will now. The Will should clearly state that the particular bus of certain make and chassis is to go to a certain preservation society or museum if the owner passes for whatever reason, and if necessary to set multiple different parties so that the gift does not fail. The reason why a preserved bus might end up going for scrap or be repurposed as something else on the cheap is when family members as administrators of an estate look at the owner's assets, fail to realise what the true value of the preserved bus, and decide to liquidate the vehicles as an estate for a quick buck. It is no different from when a grandson or granddaughter somehow dusted off a collection of rare stamps worths millions, didn't know what it was, and then goes on to sell them on the flea market for $50!

I think there is hope in the DIY and Right-To-Repair EV scene becomeing more mature to the poit it is feasible, if maybe not quite as cheap and easilly safe, to put in a high power low capacity batterry for a short herritige run. Though it will be a cultral change from the like new repairs on old buses, and we probably need legeslative progress and less bodged kit-style solutions for it to be safe and legal enough to do in a large heritage organisation in the UK.

im 24, as much as i like looking at a late 90s, early 2000s bus, i prefer 60s, 70s and 80s buses

On another note, it's nice to see that one of the former Sheffield T MAK buses has been preserved.

Very very good video! Thank you for all the effort u hav put in!

Good video. When there is an interest, people will put the effort to preserving it. Some share getting Govs involved but if a country like SG can't do it till now, I have doubts on preservation by Gov

From a sg pov, the Leylands were the few buses most grew up with from that generation, along with the Albion and the Mercedes-Benz O305s

Just look at how in such great condition thoes classic busses are such an icon you wouldn't want to scrap any of it I certainly wouldn't these busses are so cool and I have never been on any of them

The intro is 100% facts, love your videos. Very original content

As part of the newer generation, I strangely have more of an attachment towards older equipment. My childhood with buses was heading to Blacktown or even school on Mercedes-Benz O405 in the old white livery with the previous 'busways' logo. Nowadays, it's mainly Volvos, Scanias and even new Custom Denning electric buses but I just feel nostalgic for the old Mercs. Miss the noise of their engines roaring, especially hearing work hard when going uphill. I think it could be down to how us Australians somehow just try to hang on to the old equipment for as long as possible like, we're still using electric trains that date from 1977 at their oldest. I do also have a soft spot too for the classics as I have managed to ride one of Sydney's historic buses, a 1948 Leyland Titan OP2/1, during the Transport Heritage Expo 2023 and I enjoyed it. Shame my grandmother wasn't there as those buses were her childhood, even if they were going out of service when she began riding them.

I think in the future of half cabs and other buses will be the same way with steam trains. While the younger generation will associate with diesel/ electric traction, people will still look up to the steam as it's natural definition of a "classic train" and thus people in the future will continue to maintain them to keep the museums running.

What a fantastic and important video. Excellent work all round. 👍

This video is seriously interesting - I personally wouldn't preserve anything I've not grew up with and have an interest in. I've had a few older enthusiasts asking myself and my preservationist friends why none of us own Routemasters etc, and again, I have no attachment to them whatsoever, and unless someone gave one to me I wouldn't bother, I'll stick with my old Dart thanks.

Thanks for this very informative video. I am a big bus and coach fan and love going to rallies to ride on the preserved buses and coaches. A big thank you to all the preservationists out there.

My local bus company has actually has an 07 plate Volvo in Barbie livery which was still in public service until 2021 when it was converted into a driver training vehicle and it's the last vehicle in the fleet with the Barbie livery and in still has it's original hand rails, bell buttons and passenger seating and now it sits in the depot in the corner waiting for its next driver training adventure

I grew up with 51-reg Marshall Capital C39 bodied Darts in East London, and was thrilled when I saw DML41424 at a heritage bus running day in Kingston last year, part of the batch ordered for my old local route, in preservation. As cool as it was to finally ride an RM, RT, and a National all for the first time in one day, there was something special about getting back on the old 308.

Very interesting video and some good points. I do notice that the half cabs attract more families on running days.

I worked for Preston Bus. They had the 1,000th ever built Optare Solo, something I'd have thought was worth preserving! Sadly, it was moved across the UK to different Diamond sites over the years and has disappeared in Scotland somewhere. I have no idea how to find it again, much as I want to preserve it. Solo was the first bus I drove in service and it has a special place in my heart

A big thing with Modern Preserved Buses is you need people who know their ins and outs. A lot of preservationists with Modern Vehicles try to do things on their own and it always ends up in tears (speaking from experience!). Unfortunately it is a hard truth that to maintain Modern Vehicles you need some big money and big connections to hire people who know what they're doing and not try to do it on your own. The best comparison I find is that you can get a £20 an hour mechanic/electrician to complete a job in 8 hours or a £50 an hour one to do it in 30 minutes. But again, its the money aspect that drives people to do it themselves and not seek expert help. There are more events catered to the 80s onwards generation (without half cabs) for people to attend now days and a lot of running days will always have some low-floor buses being accepted by everyone. It is also nice to see that a lot of museums are being more accepting to Low-Floor Buses, most museums will at least have one of that generation which is very nice to see. It is a challenging time for any bus preservationist but I think the influx of any vehicle (old or new) is a good thing. People just need to remember that buying the bus is the easy bit! The maintainence, storage, fuel, insurance, MOT, tax and so on so forth is the most expensive part of it, unfortunately most people very much have an oversight into this and don't think about it and sometimes it leave others to pick up the pieces of their mess.

It's a great video and although I am more into trains nowadays. I would like to preserve one of the Class 60 Diesel Locomotives which most of them are at Toton. In regards future bus preservation. Due to the way the newer buses are engineered and designed. It would be likely for those in the field of electronics and would need to be certified for safety in handling the very power high voltage batteries that the electric buses would use. If I was to preserve a bus. I would have liked to own SN53KJE or SN53KJJ with the latter having a musical Voith transmission. In English language, those two are Dennis Trident Alexander ALX400's that were both new to London United in December 2003 and worked the Route 94 until 2016 when they passed to Shoreline Suncruisers in 2017. Not sure if they are around still or not but I loved them when I lived in London. For me nowadays, I would ideally want to preserve a locomotive like the Class 60. Check them out and see what I mean mate. I enjoyed the topic of the video too.

I learnt and passed my bus test in a B7 I grew up riding on older Volvo double decks (D plate) and have ridden on Routemasters, i love seeing older busses on the road and the fact that people don't remember the older buses should NEVER be an excuse for not restoring and preserving them.

I grew up in the 1950s and travelled on Leyland Titan PD2s, Bristol K5G and K6A, Guy Arab double deckers of Maidstone & District, and the odd bus from Southdown. Later, when living in London, I went to school on the London Transport RT (AEC Regent Three) and travelled on the single decker RF (AEC Regal Four) and had a trip on the FRM1 (AEC rear engine version of the RM Routemaster). In Oxfordshire it was the Bristol VR/VRT double deckers of Oxford South Midland. I admit that my love of the double deckers is possibly due to riding on those my father drove for Maidstone & District. Yes, I also remember the Trolley buses of London Transport and of Maidstone Corporation, and the old M&D advert “You see more [of the countryside**] from the top deck of a bus” *. * paraphrased and it’s true. Being a member of Friends of the London Transport Museum this is a way of helping maintain vehicles of many periods both in full running order and on static display. As was stated in this video some modern “electric” vehicles may have to be static display items - Batteries Not Included - but not totally lost forever. Thank you for your video and best wishes from me (an old relic from the past) in Oxfordshire

As has been said its all about what we grew up with. Im 49 and for me it was the Bristol VR, Leyland National, Leyland Olympian. However I do like some of the more modernish buses but they too are at the end of their working lives, this includes the Wright Scania axcess floline, the scania omnicity and onmidekka, Dennis Trident plaxton president, Alx 600. When looking at transport nostalgia its no different with railway stock we get so used to travelling on a particular vehicle for many years then suddenly something new comes along and it no longer has the same appeal.

I will come back to watch the video in its entirety:)

Excellent video.

Lots of buses nostalgic 🎉

I remember gasping in amazement at recognising the restaurant seating inside an Old Montreal bar that we'd been ushered into back in the mid-1980s had actually been altogether extracted from one of Paris's iconic Sprague-Thomson metros .. that two-table dining section itself has already l o n g been discarded 🌬brrrRrr🌬

Awesome video about heritage buses, do like perserved old bus model as they are part of daily life of riding them in bus svcs before they are scrapped or export to another country to continue perserve the memories of childhood bus that used to ride in the past but for modern bus model may be hard to maintain it as the cost can increased over the year if they are available to purchase to replace the faulty engine who knows whether perserving modern bus model is next in line

I’m with a preservation group myself, only two “modern” vehicles, a 1991 dominator & early 2000s b7tl, being 35 both of which are “my” era. Maybe I buck the trend but I quite like driving the older pd2 and tiger cub, it’s a lot more challenging than my day to day auto box “work vehicles” and the smells and experience are something else

Nice video!

Buses like the Bristol VR were being used way into the 2000s on school routes, it is my favourite of the buses that are old but not "old old". Now I see buses from the 90s and 2000s being considered old already, and I'm still not even 40.

Yeah, thats usually me but I have recently gone more to older vehicles such as the National at NWMORT

i worked out of queens road depot drove a few buses that are in preservation, take my 2 boys down to the museum and they love it... MCW, Atlantean, Olympian.

I love looking at the older buses we need to preserve them

I was born in 2001 in Australia, so the buses I've generally grown up with are mostly Volvos and Scanias, but my father's worked as a bus driver in Newcastle for over 30 years (and more as a cleaner), and his father was too (originally a tram conductor in Sydney, then bus conductor, then driver, then moved to Newcastle). This family connection (along with Dad's bus models and the attractive more-British-than-Britain flavour of 1930s-70s NSW government buses) has led me have more of an interest in the older buses, perhaps because I know a bit more about them: AEC Regent IIIs, Albion Venturers, Leyland OPD2s, and 31 seater Frogs etc., as well as the Leyland Leopards and Mercedes MK II, III and IV Dad used to drive (Newcastle was always an all-Leyland depot (but no Atlanteans), until it became an all-Mercedes depot, now they have anything and everything post-privatisation- unsuccessful trial electric buses, unpopular cheap Chinese-made buses the management likes and a short, tiny "on demand" bus. Still, Newcastle depot is an ex-tram depot with a lot of original buildings and some rails still concreted in, with plenty of stories if you know where to look. For instance, it's actually legit haunted because the trams used to take hearses and mourners from there to the cemetary, but the bodies would be stored in a depot building overnight (and it's still there!) I'm not even making this up).

Nice video! As a volunteer at a Dutch preservation group i see the same thing happening. Thankfully my group is one of the few in The Netherlands which don't only look at the personal preference, but also the inportance of a specific model. Hence we also preserved a Citaro Facelift already for example. Which, as a 21 year old guy, born in 2003, has attracted me to that group in particular. As i am that age, i also don't take a real interest in the buses from before the 1980ties really. But i do see why we need to keep them in good condition. Another thing i see tho, is that at alot of groups, you don't get alot of new, younger people in. Just because there are no buses in those groups to get them interested to enter those groups. Also a thing is that, in the past lives of buses were much longer, most buses tended to go for about, 20 to sometimes even 30 years until a replacement was finally there. So preserving them was, apart from the technical side, mush easier. Because you could snag them right when they came out of passenger service. And people who grew up with them, had the income to get into that hobby of preserving a bus. Nowadays buses only seem to go about 10 to 15 years before they get replaced. And as a result, most people who would love to preserve a bus from their youth, don't get that chance anymore, and need to get one which already has gone through serveral other owners until they finally have the income to finance such a hobby, or worse, you can't anymore because they have been exported, or even scrapped. So the younger people kind of depend on what the older generation wish to preserve. Which takes us back to: People love to at first, preserve the bus from their youth. And kind of don't want to preserve "the stuff which killed the nice stuff.".

Tbh… one day we’ll view the enviro 400 the way we view the routemaster nowadays

00s boy here, arrived in the world at the exact time the DAF Lowlanders I grew up with arrived. One of these was preserved a while back but hasn’t been to a single event yet because of technical issues. I’m referring to 4706 (Y706 XJF). It was last seen behind some old coaches somewhere just over a year ago. If I had the money and a PCV license I’d gladly take it off the current owner’s hands if they wanted since they admitted they saved it just for the enthusiasts, their pride and joy being Commander 3704 (FD52 GGV). It would mean a lot to me to get 4706 to events, especially since all the seats have already been restored to the original moquette. As much I’ve enjoyed the equivalent had I grown up somewhere served by First or Stagecoach a lot in recent years, there’s still that Arriva Lowlander shaped hole that needs to be filled (and it has to be a 2001-2002 one, the 2006 ones were slightly different cosmetically, that’s why I never bothered with them whenever I was in Leeds), especially since they left Leicester at a bad time, but that’s another story. Normally when I go on a preserved bus, I try and cram the ride in from two different spots, these being downstairs at the back for the engine, but then I also like to get upstairs at the front just to pretend I’m commuting on it. If I was a preservationist, I’d quite fancy having ex-First West of England ALX400 32008 (W808 PAE). I heard a lot of good things about it when it left Bristol. Confidence, a coach company near me currently have it. Despite being a 00s guy I do like a lot of 80s and 90s models, mainly Olympians and Metrobuses. Seeing the Greater Manchester Transport Museum on here has reminded me how much I’d love to get on 3065 (B65 PJA). There’s an ex-West Midlands Metrobus (the really iconic ones) near me I keep missing as well, which is frustrating. Electrics are problematic, one of First Leicester’s GB Kites, 63523 (BK23 HEJ) had an accident in its first week, and the complications mean it needs new panels and new windows. Consequently it still hasn’t returned nearly a year later. I wouldn’t have one personally. I wouldn’t mind having an Arriva MMC, First StreetDeck and a Stagecoach MMC from around 2016 just as static vehicles when they’re much older, just because I quite liked their liveries and the interiors, even if not their engines.

Wow, what a fantastic video and in fairness this is what I've been saying for many years, the modern electric vehicles will only ever be preserved as static exhibits in museums etc as they have become far to complex and expensive for preservationists to cope with. Yes while i find it disappointing that younger folk arnt as interested in the older vehicles at least there is younger people coming into the hobby and its not dying off!! I would like to point 2 things out though, not all younger preservationists under 25 years old for instance are interested in modern vehicles, in my group we have a 20 year old who is only interested in the 1980's Bristol REs and I know of other young people who do prefer half cabs or Atlantean's and Fleetlines. The other point I'd say is, electric buses aren't a new thing, back in the early/mid 20th century they had all electric Trolleybuses with the only difference being they had 2 poles sticking out the roof to pick up the electric from over head wires!! The Museum Of Transport in Manchester has 2 and there's the Trolleybus museum at Sandtoft that runs them. Otherwise a very good video.

I’ve missed T845 MAK. One day we will see T845 MAK and R790 WKW out on runs together. I’m definitely going to SYPTE 50th anniversary running day at both SYTT and SYTM.

Preservation wise i can't see any buses of today like the B9TL, Streetlite, Enviro 200,400 etc.

In my childhood I went on Leyland Nationals, Olympians Bristol LH, VR Leyland Atlanteans

I'm glad this video exists because it contains some of the same points I've been wanting to make... except I don't have the means to actually make a video, nor handy access to a transport museum! The uncertain future of the older AECs etc from the last century is only going to get worse as time goes on, as their working days fall out of living memory Meanwhile I'm seeing gaps in history appear as 90s/00s buses get scrapped, new to companies in their last years of independence before being taken over by the big groups, or special regional variations from otherwise standardised First/Stagecoach fleets

My favourite bus was always the Plaxton Pointer

So when the owner dies a perfectly restored vintage bus in the museum would just be scrapped?

Sadly there is a gap in bus preservation and that's the minibus era from transits, freight rover sherpas to Mercedes, not many surviving and also what a lot forget is the difference of body styles, I grew up in the minibus era

I find it interesting that almost the opposite trend is happening in steam railway preservation; I've found the younger generation often prefers the pre-grouping locomotives of the Victorian and Edwardian era, rather than those that operated in living memory in the 50s and 60s. Its become a bit of a debate in regards to livery, a lot of the older generation prefer to see their favourite locomotives in their British Railways guise, how they remember them, while younger often prefer to see grouping and pre-grouping liveries, many of which are far outside of living memory. The LSWR T3 is a great example of this, the restoration of which was completed a few months ago, its a Victorian 4-4-0 which hadn't run since 1945, well before British Rail days. Restored in original LSWR condition, its a massive contrast to the BR black many of the older generation prefer to see their locomotives painted it. I've seen discussions online referring such a livery as "boomer black" in some cases even, with the younger generation crying out for a bit more variety in preservation. As primarily a railway enthusiast, I honestly find a lot of more modern trains quite soulless; I have very little interest in things like pacers, turbostars, and 66s. Occasionally if one shows up at a gala Ill got on it for a laugh, but its interesting to see that in the world of busses people have a lot more admiration for newer vehicles. The only "modern" traction still on the mainline now that I'd actively seek out are the 91s, HSTs and 68s. On a side note, I much prefer those far older half cab busses, perhaps because they fit the environment of a steam railway a bit better, it's always nice when a heritage railway uses one as a shuttle bus to link with a main line station, like at the Epping Ongar Railway or Great Central Railway.

I have same concerns as you. I preserved 22 old historic Korea buses and 2 trucks for museum Most of them are manufactured in 1980s~1990s or 2000s As you mentioned in video, Modern buses installed more complicated electronic devices, so they are more difficult to maintain and repair.

Londoner here. My childhood was: AEC Routemaster Leyland National Dennis Dart (Marshall, Plaxton and Wright bodied) Daimler fleetline (Occasionally) Mcw Metrobus Leyland Titan (Occasionally) Leyland Lynx Leyland Olympian Volvo Olympian Mercedes-Benz Citaro (a.k.a. the bendy bus) Dennis Trident Dennis Trident (Plaxton bodied) Dennis Enviro 200 Dennis Enviro 400 Volvo Gemini Eclipse Volvo Gemini B7TL/B9TL (Plaxton and Wright bodied) I've had the pleasure of seeing these buses operate at their best I would love to be able to look after one of them some day. These younger enthusiasts don't know what they're talking about. I would sooner take a bus from the 60s because they're exempt from ULEZ! 😉😄

Whilst what the guy said about ploughing thousands into a National he has no connection with is true, at the same time it's a piece of history that should be respected.

Here in Perth, a bunch of CNG busses are being retired, mostly because the CNG tanks have met the end of their usable life. Due to the cost of a new CNG tank and the difficulty of getting CNG fuel, I'm pretty sure none of them will enter preservation in a drivable state. Transperth bought CNG vehicles exclusively for a very long period so that will leave a big gap in bus history here.

Maxson will you make a video on the Leyland Olympian once it's back on the road and repainted?

Born in the 90s also I do slightly remember the Leyland Nationals, I would love to see an ALX200 again. Not ALX300s. Plus Volvo Olympia's. But One day I would love to look back on a 12 plate Enviro 200. Frankly I don't care for the electric buses. Though I do see their benefits.

I grew up with the Volvo Ailsa I hated the B10L they replaced them with. The only half cabs still running were with Strathtay and they lasted until sompoint in the 90s

I wish or if they haven't been scrapped, hope some preserves the SRM variant of the New Routermaster/New Bus for London, and indeed the original open platform New Routemaster. Actually the New Routemaster is unique (afaik) as being a range-extender EV (though often called a hybrid), as it runs as an EV with the engine charging the batteries as a generator. And the Eaton-Fuller transmission Enviro200s when they are withdrawn, and Mercedes-Benz Citaros, the only mainland European bus to run in the UK in any significant numbers. Especially the London Citaro G. I think I should appreciate the 1970s and older buses more than I currently do. I only grew up with the last of the 70s buses, most of the 80s and 90s buses, so those latter two mean the most to me, but I do like some more recent ones like the Citaro I mentioned and Volvo B7TL, B7RLE, B7L(A), B9TL, Scania N113CRL, L94UB/A, and many more too many to list. Basically if it has a ZF Ecomat I like it. Though I do like the older "screaming" Voiths such as the Dennis Dart SLF, DAF SB200 and similar with Cummins engines. And I have a connection to AEC Routemasters, having driven some, and Optare Solos for the same reason (though I kinda of hated most of them at the time for being underpowered and overheating in summer), as well as E400H MMCs and original (which are my favourite hybrids due to the fast acceleration and the engine braking, where it revs as you stop if you brake just the right way), and the B5LHs as they are so comfortable, with good steering wheel adjustment and the i-shift gearbox made me feel like I was driving a coach. Anyway, I think you get the gist. I like buses of many eras. My favourite of all time is the Leyland Lynx, Mercedes-Benz O.405 close 2nd, favourite of "modern" times Citaro. Thank you for this though provoking video. I must say while I have dreamed of turning a bus into an RV/camper, it nearly cried seeing that Lynx conversion as they ruined the exterior in my opinion - I would say limo tint the windows at most and do the changes on the inside, event the likes of fitting locking door I'd say do it behind the original door, but I'm weird in that way.

You could tow that Seddon/Lucas to the top of a hill and "drive" it back down. I always thought a pre 1960s bus would be harder to own as you would have to get upgraded from a standard manual to crash license as well as having a manual bus/coach license for anything that doesn't have a full automatic box, which is hard to find as it is as all PCV training companies I know of seem to only have automatic ex service buses to train people in. There are a couple of slightly older modern (80's) bus models I wouldn't mind owning but the variants I would be more interested in are I believe now extinct (like the Scanias with Voith transmissions), but since there are none of those left I would go for something like one of the rarer Voith boxed Volvo B9TLs. I am more familiar with the ZF version of the B9TL but I spent so much time hunting them down and getting duped by Visions "BJ11" batch which I thought would be Voith being ex First London BJ11s but they turned out to be ZF. I finally got a ride on one on the form of Transdev's 2451 (SN08 BYB) and it was well worth waiting for nearly two hours for it!

I'm a younger one and I would definitely keep an older bus if I have the chance in the future

They should protect vehicles with laws like they do with buildings.

In the late 1990s/very early 2000s there used to be a bus operator in South London called "Nostalgia Bus" which ran preserved buses on school bus routes under contract to I think TfL and possibly Surrey County Council as well (not sure though), but unfortunately they no longer exist, not sure why though but probably due to their vehicles being too expensive to operate and Ken Livingstone (Mayor of Greater London at the time) mandating that all TfL bus services must be "Disability Discriminations Act 1995" (DDA) compliant by 2005 including school bus services far before the National deadline of 2016 and His previous statement of claiming that all bus services would be compliant by 2010. If we had private companies running these old buses regularly on fare-paying bus services, then preservation could be profitable, however this is currently outlawed if the vehicle is not DDA compliant and with Low-Emission Zones/Ultra-Low Emission Zones coming into force in major urban areas like London & Birmingham, would make these types of businesses unprofitable if the engines are original, non-Euro 4 or newer compliant (Emissions). There have been a few companies in the UK before which have taken profits from regular bus services-side of the business using modern, low-floor buses and spending it on bus preservation but most of these businesses have closed down, with Ensignbus being sold to the First Group with bus preservation being kept in the founding-families' possession and an uncertain future for Sullivan Buses' if their founder, an ex-LUL executive were to retire or die suddenly...

In my opinion the price of the batteries will eventually go down due to the fact more vehicles will need them and to supply demand

I really really want to preserve a ALX300

I was born in 2001 so I remember late 90s to late 2010 busses my favourite bus is the one on the right in the thumb nail I believe its a dennis trident

I found out that last time before Leyland Olympian serving Sentosa they use RT Routemaster I suspect those RT Routemaster Sentosa can't preserve cause spare part cannot find

Can't beat the 96 bruv

great video but that was stupidly pointless poll A.the olympian is well loved and well known b. the people answering the poll would assume the older bus is being preserved where as the olympyan most likely not

Wow

Rarely used the local bus services,but,for me,aged sixty two,the modern buses are just boxes on wheels.

I think Electric Buses will be interesting to preserve, while battery developments seem eternally five years away maybe the battery of the future will be one that won't degrade with use and that could boost preservation efforts as result. I'd be curious about those fossil fuel buses however, does preservation have any plans to deal with the future where any sort of fossil fuel is simply no longer available?

I laugh when 06 plate buses are preserved, in my country 03 plate euro 4 buses are still darting about in public service, although their time is running out I give about 1 year max before 05 plates are the oldest.

Enjoyed the video, as growing up,with old vehicles, in birmingham area,rear engine buses,and rear platform buses,,as seen in your video,Early electric bus make headlines, when new,and I managed ride one when I visited Manchester, Nice one as saved,

It will be interesting to see if Hydrogen buses will present the same problems as the EVs when considering the preservation of them, as eventually these new vehicles will end up getting old and be put on borrowed time before they are permanently removed from service. And if they are cheaper and easier to maintain, would we see more of them being preserved over the EV buses? (Providing the fuel is available everywhere for the common person)

See the problem is it's not just they arnt interested the price is way to high who at 20-30 years old can afford to buy and maintain tax and so on a classic bus.

I’m kinda the opposite, I would care for an enviro 200 but I would much rather care for a 1940’s half cab.

Hi There like I said before and I will say that Again, are you definitely sure that you will be able to tell the bus Preservation People to find 19 of those Leyland Titan B15 Buses so that you can have the Opportunity to tell them to Repaint them into a Grey Green Pattern Bus Colour’s as I have shown you Before? If you have been Repainted into the Exact Grey Green Pattern Colours, will you be able to Send me more and more Pictures of them so I can see them being Repainted into the Exact Grey Green Pattern Bus Colour for me Pretty Please.

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having routinely commuted on RMs and RMLs myself, it peeves me that the stairwells with their conductor cubbies underneath have swapped sides with the open passenger platforms for plying the right-hand side of roadways hereabouts 👀 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bNt5qryV2KmwhHk.html

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Then there's the welfare buses Buses built off van chassis and are built for disabled people and schools and councils and those companies that did that were chassis Developments Mellor Coachcraft Bedwas TREKA and much more the ones from the 2000s and older are lost to time especially the chassis Developments ones their early ford transit mk6s the ones built from 2000 to 2002 are almost completely lost the mk5s even more mk4s even more mk3s I don't know if there's any left And the LDVs there's a few around

As more of a train person, modern buses are wretched things. Old buses are much nicer and comfortable to ride on, and I don't see the hype in modern displays if modern ride and seats are so horrendous. Also, the fact electric buses can be so dangerous, yet are allowed on the roads, doesn't sit right with me. I should note this is all just personal opinion, and you are more than welcome to say I am full of sh*t.

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