This was Daniel’s final public appearance. Thank you for uploading this, Jordan.

The value of watching two men with fundamentally different points of view of life having a conversation cannot be overstated. We get to watch it for free.

Mr Dennett, what a legend, you will be missed.

I learned a great deal Daniel Dennet. He very ironically led me to faith through a process almost too complicated to describe here. If he were still alive to hear my explanation I would say that he didn't fail in any way, but he did expose me to even deeper questions. Skepticism is an extremely useful tool, but one shouldn't stop using it when they find an answer they like. I was searching for true justification for my atheism and what I ended up finding was God. Not by avoiding information, but by turning over absolutely every stone possible. I hope that it honors Dr. Dennet's memory and those who survive him that he challenged me to challenge myself and he gave me a great deal of tools that helped me to help myself and others. I honor his memory. But I would not mock him by praying for him. I suspect he has had all of the conversations he has needed to with God and himself even if he remained honestly unaware. Thank you Dr. Dennet and rest in peace.

I just read that Dr. Dennett passed away. This conversation is an excellent final interview and conversation I'm very sad to learn of his passing. RIP

Always look forward to Mondays and Thursdays, when Dr Peterson's latest interviews come on here for a wider audience to enjoy. Who needs a television when you can find podcasts of this quality ? Thanks to Dr Peterson and his guest.

I deeply appreciate Dr. Dennett for coming on. Thank you both!

Rest easy, Dr. Dennett. A most brilliant thinker of our time.

The moment when Jordan used the term "revelation" (at roughly 53 minutes into the video) he instantly, and maybe even subconsciously, had to clarify and rephrase because he could see that using that word had created a riff between he and Dr. Dennett. You could see it in Dr. Dennett's face. It was an on-the-spot demonstration of exactly the hypothetical he was talking about, how to reconcile a relationship that was falling into distrust. That was amazing. Did anybody else see that?

Thank you for everything Dr. Daniel Dennett. You are one of my intellectual heroes.

Dan Dennett, who provoked me to rethink philosophy and evolution and forced me to challenge his ideas, passed away yesterday. There are not many philosophers that provoke you constantly despite not agreeing with them constantly. I'm so sorry I could not meet him three years ago talking with Dawkins (whom I disagree with even more, but started with memes) and Susan Blackmore, my mother in memetics. The discussion at Tufts was canceled due to Corona. What I can do besides mourning and wishing him all the best in the realm he did not believe in is to praise his latest discussion with Jordan Peterson. It is such an intellectual pleasure to listen to two great thinkers of our age who could not disagree more.

Two distinguish gentleman having a civil conversation ... What a treat!!!

Dr. Dennett was the most balanced of the horsemen, even if it didn't garner him as much fame for it. Firm but fair and not belittling.

Thank you both. Thank you Jordan Peterson for helping society deeply even when its so difficult I think and helping society which is so badly needed with corrupt governments and corrupt institutions in the world.Thank you for all your work and thank you to your family and all who stand with you. God bless 💗

Rest in peace, Dr. Daniel Dennett.

I've been privalaged to have been a subscriber to Petersons channel when it numbered in the thousands. Everytime I get a notification to watch a new video, I smile as I watch his followers grow monthly by the thousands. At almost 8 million subscribers and billions of views, it is nothing short of glorious that his philosophy is reaching a mass that so badly craves the guidance of such a warm father figure. Long may his audience grow and may his important message resound long after essence of this wonderful soul is called home🙏🏼

Absolutely love and appreciate you having Daniel Dennett on the show. An all time favorite 😊

My brother Pitin (childhood nickname) and I have been having deep religious and philosophical conversations along with a lot of childhood reminiscing. My brother is dying. The doctor gave him less than 30 days to live. Unless God has other plans that’s the prognosis. My brother is taking 750 mg hemorrhage meds, 250mg in the am and 250 in the pm. He had surgery last year and now there is nothing more the doctors can do for him. We are celebrating his life and I’m spending a lot of time with him before he enters hospice. Life is such a precious gift. My brother has lived a very adventurous life. He’s a phenomenal artist, sings like many angels, was a martial arts expert, and an ordained minister. Anyway, we are very close and it’s difficult losing my brother. He is ready to meet Almighty God. Thank you Jordan ✝️🙏🏻❤️😔

I don't know for the life of me where I would possibly get another KZfaq channel with such quality conversations between people from different of such different perspectives. I am truly taking notes JP. I found Daniel Dennett to be truly insightful as always and it's a gift to be able to see it.

This was an intense conversation. I am impressed with JBP’s courage to face counter arguments to his long-standing beliefs. Thanks for doing this!

RIP Daniel Dannett.

You cannot put a value on these enlightening talks. Thank you Jordan!

Thanks for grappling with and acknowledging the sophistication of our ancestors and some of their insights and arguments. I pray we stay humble through all of our " progress" ❤

Dr. Dennet’s point of view becomes abundantly sympathetic when you realize that he was on his death bed. In this conversation he was not only having an exchange of ideas, but also coping with the reality of his death. What this man needed was not god, but medicine and a cure. His view is one that most of us will come to when meeting death.

I can not hear him talk about these topics enough in my lifetime! 🙏🙏

Hey Dr Peterson. I hold you a man of great Honor, it is a honor for a man like me to be alive on this age witnessing your work and kind heart. YHWH bless you.

RIP Dr. Denett. You made a great positive impact on my life. The world is much more beatiful than superstitions.

Such a shame that this conversation will not be picked back up. Rest in Power Dr Dennett

It's so cool that they agree on so much, even though one is "religious" and one is "atheistic". Really highlights Jordan Peterson's definition of being religious as something that you 'act out' instead of something you represent abstractly and linguistically.

My man, I love you. I love the light you shed on this world. Much needed

THOROUGHLY enjoyed this conversation. Thankyou 🙏🏼💫💞

What an excellent conversation. Thank you for making it accessible for all of us!

I’ve been a fan of Jordan Peterson a long time. I’ve listened to hundreds of hours of his lectures and podcasts. One issue I have, as much as I enjoy hearing Jordan speak, he struggles with shutting his mouth many times with his guests. He always needs to interject long diatribes. I’d be interested in knowing the percentage of time he is talking versus active listening.

Hello everyone, good viewing🐼

We must be grateful that we live in a world where we can listen to minds like this! Brings me to smile when I think of this while watching such conversations!

Thankyou for this. Always eye opening and Motivating learning for me with your conversations

I'm looking forward to this conversation.Thank you so much for putting it together. 2:44

A conversation with Hitchens would have been on a different level. However with Dennett, I didn't think this was going to take place, kudos to making this happen. Blessed for this high level intellectual talks.

Jordan, these discussions are a much better format. I was in NYC Radio City for your talk. Little disappointing I give it a C+ and that’s because I like you.

Good evening Jordan and Daniel Exactly all of this. Truly grateful. 💜

Rest in peace, Dan. Thank you for everything.

Keep it up Dr. Jordan!

Thanks for this enlightening conversation! It's fascinating to see how different individuals approach tasks and planning. Some seem to excel at critical thinking, mapping out multiple accomplishments before even starting, while others dive into one task at a time, driven by the need to avoid overwhelming options. It's a reminder that curiosity knows no bounds. Good show!

Absolutely loved this conversation, thank you so very much!

Sad to hear that this was Dennett's final public appearance. Watching this I figured he was recovering from some illness. Glad he was still sharp-minded till the end.

RIP Daniel Dennett (1942-2024)

This was an awesome conversation, in my opinion.. I can't wait to watch these two masters continue.

You will be dearly missed Dr. Dennett. Thank you for your brilliant mind.

Dr. Peterson, you gave this conversation so much appropriateness. Dr. Dennett is a foundation stone of societal norms for the Four Horsemen. You treaded this territory cautiously and respectfully. As a former consumer of the Horsemen's every word, and someone who switched beliefs, I wanted full respect afforded to Dr. Dennett. Just like when Dr. Peterson speaks to Dr. Dawkins.

Rest in peace you legendary Man. RIP Daniel Dannett 😢

It's hard to watch this now .. RIP Dennett .... what a great philosopher and thanks Jordan Peterson for this fantastic interview ... I always liked to see this side of Dennett more and no one like Jordan Peterson could bring it out.

Awesome! I've been waiting for a Peterson - Dennett conversation for years now. Thank you

Jordan has evolved from arguing with people to maintaining an open conversation. Masterful communication skills. I’m taking notes

It was a brilliant move by Jordan to question the failure of secular universities after Dennett got through claiming "we don't need religion any more our secular ways are good enough now and moral, etc..." who then had to also agree the universities have "gone off the rails".

I love that after 7 years I can still hear stuff from Jordan that blows my mind. 40:45

This was the greatest covnersation I've seen on your podcast thus far Jordan .. absolutely magnificent

Thanks for this conversation - Prayers for your family - Blessed Solemnity of the Annunciation - “Pascal’s Wager" is good to think about here. Blessings! 🙏

Wow! I love the idea of the Egyptians putting "attention to error" on the most high. That explains so much about their culture and makes my mind spin with ideas about how much we are missing in translation.

Very good conversation. Thank you! Very stimulating and important information... XO 💕

I just finished watching this today. Dennett was a formidable thinker.

Oh boy, DD and JBP. This should be interesting.

Is this Dennett's last interview? Bit ironic it's with religion's most prominent academic proponent. He will surely be missed. RIP Dan.

Rest in peace, Dan. Thanks for the lessons, and thank you, Jordan, for having Dan, one last time.

As a close follower of Dennett's work, I don't know how I only just found out about his passing. His work on memetics, compatibilism and consciousness (obviously) have really enriched my thinking. RIP and thank you.

Love this conversation

I like how many things JP can say “I’ve been thinking about that for about 10 years…”. He truly has a marvelous mind.

One of the best conversations I've seen from you yet! Thanks for your work, Jordan.

1:22:00 epic! straight out disarggement with what Jordan touted everywhere, that religion is no longer needed, I don't understand why Jordan stopped the conflicted by just going a base-level deeper! You really are the most powerful intellectual, Jordan!

What a great discussion. Jordan is always both professor and student simultaneously.

Notice Dennett completely did not answer the (vital) question: What is the highest Good? Unless you think the highest good is a perfectly constructed machine gun, you will be disappointed with his non-answer. In essence he said I don't know what it is exactly because it is ineffable, and the only thing I can tell you is that it is evolving, because we wouldn't want to live in old testament times now, would we? The implicit suggestion is that human morality is evolving in a positive direction of which Dennet cannot describe any single feature of, or what this human morality is evolving towards, but it is a real thing, and it is the Good. This sounds fairly religious to me, but hopelessly muddled and vague (like I find most of his "philosophizing").

Really nice converstation between two people who has had a massive formative influence on my thinking.

So respect these two speaking. I hope for more.

After so many struggles I now own a new house and my family is happy once again everything is finally falling into place!!

I had kinda stopped watching this channel because of too many ads. The name Daniel Dennett brought back memories of my atheist podcast days 10+ years ago, so decided to give this one a shot. Brilliant and worth getting thru the commercials, which seem to be less than I remember. Thanks for putting this together. I may listen to this one a few times.

Just watched you on Dr Oz KZfaq after watching your Piers Morgan interview. You have a new sub. Love your mission and hope for the world. Just excellent hearing your emotional connection towards humanity & saving many. Former Social Worker - from Canada as well. My best wishes to your continued success in helping others.

This was the most exciting conversation! Thank you! Took me to new levels of thinking about consciousness. It was, to me, so poetic to think about how a human moves up in obtaining free will by learning to control our emotions and motivations! In today’s discussions with so many thinking we don’t have free will.

DANIEL DENNET, EL MAS GRANDE. TE VOY A EXTRAÑAR MUCHISIMO , INFINITAS GRACIAS POR TU CONTRIBUCION, INMENSA RACIONALIDAD, EMPATIA Y SENTIDO DEL HUMOR. UN GAME CHANGER UN ICONO

Dr. Dennett said it very well here: ''You complicate things way more than they needed to be''.

Whoa!! I came to the comments to find out if there was a forum for open discussion on these topics. I'm saddened to find Dr. Dennett is no longer with us. Thank you for your contributions, and I hope you've found all the answers needed to rest in peace.

spectacular conversation thank you both

RIP, Dan, Beautiful mind.

Rest In Peace, Dr. Dennett.

This is one of the best interviews I've ever seen.

This was a very good episode. I'd love to see the continuation of this.

Awesome Dannett is still kicking. Gonna enjoy this

This is really good. Peterson at his best. Thank you both

Loved this talk, but like all things, it must come to an end. Rest in Peace Dan Dennett 🕊️

Thank you genlemen for this inexhausting, great converstaion. All the best Mr Dennett, may we have more of your future conversations.

Peterson is sharp. Great questions at the end.

It’s like time traveling and seeing how far we’ve come.

Humanity lost a lot when we lost Mr. Dennet.

Thank you for this thoughtful and paradigm provoking conversation

"Free will is an achievement, not a metaphysical endowment" - Dr. Dan Dennett Well, this is revolutionary to my mind

1:09:18 Whose paper is this?

Wonderful insightful discussion. Thanks for bringing these to us!

This was a fantastic discussion, thank you for this. Dennett is such a brilliant mind.

I drop some version of this on a lot of Alan Watts videos, because the thought process (which hit me about a year ago now) feels great to write out each time, and it's pertinent here: because Peterson and Dennet are talking about emotions and free will. And because I’ve come to the realization that we’re not in conscious control - nothing is. It seems to me that it's easily provable once you've been walked through it, and it leads to the faith we all hear about, but which very few actually have. Basically, the secret is this: "We don't control our thoughts. We don't control our feelings." Alan Watts says it numerous times, and a look at one's own life and consciousness proves it to be true. Thoughts just pop into our minds. Desires (or distastes) just pop into our awareness. We learn, surely. But we're not in charge of when we learn. We don't go and rearrange our neurons to finally 'get it.' No, it just happens. Just like you can't force or trick yourself to love someone just by saying "I love you," nor can you have faith on purpose. Again - we don't choose thoughts, and even if we did, what would that be? Looking in a bag of thoughts and picking which one you wanted? Well, how would you know which one you wanted? By how they feel, or the presence of some other unchosen thought going "That's the one I want." Except we don't choose how we feel. We just feel. What does this mean? We're not in control. Of anything. Yes there are always options, and a wise person sees more options and longer-reaching implications. But no choice. Just the doing. "Neither fate nor free will," says Watts to Elliott Mintz on a great YT interview if you haven't heard it yet. Nothing is in control, because consciousness is the AWARENESS of will, not the choosing of it. So, perhaps we do have free will, but what that will is (your set of personal desires and personality characteristics) is not up to conscious awareness. You don't choose what you want. You just want it. And perhaps your desire palate changes over time - fair enough - but you don't choose to change. You just change. And so you can really let go, since what thought pops into your head next is truly not up to you, even if it's the most logical, useful, necessary thought. It's simply not up to you. I'm not saying things are chaos, or meaningless: no, you always feel something about life and its meaning at every moment. Some version (simplistic or nuanced) of "This is good," or "This won't do." You conscience is always there, too. Even if it's not always right, it's always there. So begone moral relativists and nihilists: you're STUCK WITH YOUR CONSCIENCE, in whatever form it is in that moment. So where does this leave us in our journey of letting go / satori / enlightenment? You're totally not in charge and thus it's not up to you IF you let go, so you can finally let go of worrying about letting go. And thus you start to let go. The second half of the trick is this: teach yourself to feel your body. Basically anxiety is an icky feeling in our bodies telling us we don't like XYZ. It's the feeling of "I can't take this anymore" that makes us lash out and act in ways we regret. But instead of masking it (with pleasure or drugs), or ignoring it (by clenching our muscles inside and soldiering on), there's a third option: teach yourself to feel, in every moment you can remember, the subtle vague feelings of fear that are somewhere in your body at nearly all times. They're little clenched muscles. Go feel them. Put your mind on them (around your heart, in your face, around your voice box, in your abdomen) whenever you feel anxious about anything. You're not admonishing yourself for having fear: rather, try something you haven't ever tried before: put your mind on the icky feeling of fear that's in a physical location in your body (tensed muscles and fascia) and hold it there. Over and over and over and over and over. Try. Hold it there. Watch as your muscles finally begin to relent (if only momentarily) just because you LOOKED at them long enough. Watch how you feel when you realize you’re able to hold in your mind that nagging discomfort that’s been there for a long time. Watch how you feel when your little muscles/pains finally do relent. In those moments of paying attention you start to handle situations with grace. No longer are you feeling like "I've had it up to here," because you're teaching yourself that yes, you CAN feel a much wider range of things than you thought. That's real courage. And all based on the final reminder that we're absolutely not in control. But we can learn. This version of you that arises in these moments that you remember: it’s as the Tao describes: “Kindhearted as a grandmother, dignified as a king.” It’s a better version of you, in those moments. And so we simply keep positioning our brain to feel, and to hope we learn while knowing the learning isn't up to us. It's faith. It's why the entire Bible is full of stories about faith in God. It's why Jesus tells us not to worry, and not even to ask God for things since he knows what we need already. It's real faith. It's just sad that faith, to Christians, has become the fervent 'professing of belief,' rather than actually believing that you're not in control, and thus that, in some large way, God must have it covered. You don't have to feel the latter (that it's gonna be ok), but the more you realize you have zero control, the more the "it's gonna be ok" faith starts to bloom. You're not in control. But there's still meaning. Faith.

Finally more Dr. Dennett content! He's the brightest flame from the four horsemen, but the least visible!

thank you this type of discussion is so important on the learning aspect and 😊😊showing us that two people can come together and try to meet in the middle i see both joining in the middle we just have to see that all roads lead home or to rome

Superdooper interesting conversation! Thank you both!!❤❤