External GPU for 3D and Architecture Work - Razer Core X Chroma & Nvidia RTX 3080

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Joseph Kim

Joseph Kim

3 жыл бұрын

You can turn your laptop into a performance machine if you pair it up with an external GPU (eGPU). I showcase Razer Book 13 & Razer Core X Chroma pair to showcase their high-end desktop-grade performance together. Of course, RTX 3080 is used to show some benchmark results. Would it be a viable solution for 3D, architecture, and rendering works of AEC?
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@Soluchi-InfiniteCoCreatorGod
@Soluchi-InfiniteCoCreatorGod 3 жыл бұрын
😊 Hi, Great content. What powerful laptop would you recommend I get for fast CPU 3D rendering?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 3 жыл бұрын
Any laptop with many cores. But I'd prefer desktop for that.
@briannos3x
@briannos3x 3 жыл бұрын
I like your video. Thanks you That is a rare youtube channel architect guy i think. your reviews are not only about game test / temp/... but also software for architect on device, which is a view point I want to watch. It is different with almost rest of youtube.
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@KK-ob9fo
@KK-ob9fo Жыл бұрын
Jim, thank you very much for everything you are doing here. I am sending love and warm wishes to you and your family this holiday season. May the new year bring you prosperity, happiness, and success. 2023
@JosephKim
@JosephKim Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@AswadFahad
@AswadFahad 2 жыл бұрын
Hello kim, I'm just joining your channel in September. I really love your reviews. Very educational and easy to understand. Keep up the good work. Few questions pls. What is your take on Razer Blade 14 + Razer Core X Chroma. will i get better performance compared to buying. Razer Book 13 + Razer Core X Chroma. I need your expert advice on what bundle to go with. Major use- Animation, 3d rendering and intense gaming.
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
Due to GPU shortage and its price being very expensive, this is not really a good performance/dollar option. If you really want dedicated GPU, a laptop with a powerful card works out to be better. (currently)
@TonyJaboney
@TonyJaboney 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your videos, very informative.
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@davidkerman1732
@davidkerman1732 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I just bought a 3080 ti and the pins were different. What GPU / Brand did you use? Thanks for the video!
@86Raxor
@86Raxor 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jim. This was an excellent video, straightforward! Although it's focused on CAD software and alike. My quest for upgrading my 17" msi gtx1070 laptop is to move from my current Predator z35 monitor @2560x1080 to a43" 4k momitor. I think my 1070gtxMQ won't be adequate for both work, cad viewing in large plant 3d models and also gaming. Do you think that it's better selling my laptop or is an eGPU the best way to hook my laptop to a 43" 4k desktop monitor. I will not use the eGPU other than for that monitor. The eGPU will basically be stationary at my desktop. Any point in th3 right direction is greatly appreciated!
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
Due to current GPU shortage, eGPU doesn't make much sense unless you got a GPU already. It probably is better to consolidate what you have and just buy a new laptop with adaqute card. Thing have come a long way since 1070 Max Q.
@fiandoperdana8385
@fiandoperdana8385 Жыл бұрын
1070 MaxQ seems quite inadequate for CAD (or even Lumion). My card is RTX3060 (Razer Core X, paired with Razer Book 13), it's able to run latest Lumion and Blender (not on highest setting).
@darthrob
@darthrob 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you for the information.
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@ivy-offical
@ivy-offical 3 жыл бұрын
@joseph, Brother, I need your advice did this game working on a laptop (ZenBook Flip 13 (UX363, 11th gen Intel) with eGPU it 2 in 1 please advise me I want to buy it.
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 3 жыл бұрын
Which game?
@ivy-offical
@ivy-offical 3 жыл бұрын
@@JosephKim brother's laptop like 2 in 1 convertible with have thunderbolt 3 or 4 can work fine any Pc game like GTA V and what about during System Temperature gameplay.
@rohanj6362
@rohanj6362 Жыл бұрын
Nice review! I plan on getting the minisforum UM690 with usb 4.0 , and pair this with it (an AMD gpu).
@JosephKim
@JosephKim Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@vmunozbe
@vmunozbe 3 жыл бұрын
great!!, I just wondering if an eGPU would be an alternative to update my laptop for using with an oculus
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. It would be really helpful for VR stuff :)
@raypeng8988
@raypeng8988 3 жыл бұрын
Hi ! just purchase a RB 13, thinking of getting razer core x, given you a chance to purchase the graphics card again? would you still recommend the RTX 3080? Does it also boost the overall performance and reduce the overall heat from the laptop?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 3 жыл бұрын
I am not sure if it would reduce the overall heat of the laptop, but it will boost the graphics performance for sure. Right now is definitely not the time to get GPUs though.
@thetraveler7349
@thetraveler7349 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks on this review, i had been watching this couple of times that I almost about to buy the rtx 3080 for chroma. I already have the Chroma, One question if i may, how does the rxt 3080 behave as it is rated 750W while razer x chroma is 700W.?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
It is rated for 750w when the PSU is feeding CPU too. Where as here, it is not.
@LegacyInBlood
@LegacyInBlood 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Can you explain why the short cable is better?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
Physical length that the data travels introduce more delay/performance reduction.
@stephenwang1696
@stephenwang1696 3 жыл бұрын
From the last software testing video, Thanks again you actually did that !!!! Obviously, Dave2D doesn't do that.
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@oceanwave2630
@oceanwave2630 3 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend to get the base model Razer Book 13 and this instead of the $1,600 model?
@dongnguyen558
@dongnguyen558 2 жыл бұрын
The base model has 8GB RAM soldier. Windows 10 will used at least 5GB to operate, leaving you with only 3GB for other programs. And it can’t be upgrade. So a “Productivity” laptop should have at least 16GB built in. Other than that, a decent gaming PC now require 32GB RAM. So 8GB laptop for about 1,200 dollars is a H3LL NO.
@Kheine89
@Kheine89 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Can you test twinmotion as well?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim Жыл бұрын
I do not see why it wouldn't!
@haroldantoine1775
@haroldantoine1775 3 жыл бұрын
yes thank for this information , this is just what I needed as grad architect student.
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 3 жыл бұрын
Cool!
@jintooz
@jintooz Жыл бұрын
You review really well sir!
@JosephKim
@JosephKim Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@carlcastillo5460
@carlcastillo5460 3 жыл бұрын
Greetings Mr. Kim! I would like to ask if you can switch "as easy as pie" with this set-up. For example, I want to render some videos, so I will connect my (different brand) laptop to this Razer egpu. Do I need to setup some bios or boot anything? Looking forward for your response.
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 3 жыл бұрын
As long as your laptop has Thunderbolt and the GPU driver. There is not much fiddling.
@carlcastillo5460
@carlcastillo5460 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for replying. I will consider this as an alternative to expensive laptops when outside :)
@MarioSpeedWagon
@MarioSpeedWagon 2 жыл бұрын
Any cons to consider when connecting this to an external monitor (lg cx 40 in my case) and possibly integrating a VR setup as well, like steam index?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
It does have performance hit, and also it may be quite expensive?
@kami4u250
@kami4u250 3 жыл бұрын
This would be awesome for VR!
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yes!
@haroldalexanderantoine9063
@haroldalexanderantoine9063 3 жыл бұрын
thank for this video. I currently have a razer stealth 13 2019. if i get te razer core x chroma and a rtx 2060 graphics card will I b able to use lumion and vray with ease ?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 3 жыл бұрын
It would be a better setup, but the speed will depend on your complexity of the project.
@henreman
@henreman 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know if eGPU will improve programming tasks (e.g. running Visual Studio, SQL Server, IIS etc) ?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
My guess is probably not as I understand those aren't GPU bound tasks.
@DominikZalewski85
@DominikZalewski85 2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried to benchmark using external monitor connected to the core x ? I believe this should give you better results
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
I think it would too. But you also have to keep your laptop screen off or closed. Which can be somewhat convoluted than what average people would use them for.
@h00kemh0rns
@h00kemh0rns 2 жыл бұрын
I was considering this exact setup but reading the specs of the core x chroma it says it can support up to 500 watts of power for the card but the 3080 requires 750 watts. Also, isn't there three power 6x2 power plugs on the 3080 card? But the chroma only has two power plugs. Seems this wouldn't work.
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
No, I think 750w is recommended system power req. Meaning if the PSU has to power the CPU too. Also, the pin amount may vary depending on the model of the card.
@allthingsdezin5264
@allthingsdezin5264 3 жыл бұрын
Can you add more than one graphic card to the razer? If so what would that process be ? Thanks in advance!
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 3 жыл бұрын
Nope! You can't.
@uncouthliyouth4486
@uncouthliyouth4486 3 жыл бұрын
Thinking about getting this after alienware killed off their AGA. I have an Area 51 R2. Will the eGPU work in conjunction with my internal 2080S(200 Watt) or shut it down and pull only from the external?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 3 жыл бұрын
It would not work together with the internal card, just pull from the external. Not sure if the overall cost vs. performance makes sense if you already have the laptop with powerful GPU :)
@ali-topuz
@ali-topuz 2 жыл бұрын
What I need do? Razer core x chroma not working. The fan does not turn and the lights do not turn on, although the electricity is on. Razer core x chroma not showing in Thunderbolt 3. I have done all the latest driver downloads and the result is still the same. Also, the card I installed in razer core x chroma is rtx 3070 ti. Should I install the RTX 3070 ti driver for this? What drivers should I install for Razer Core X Chrome?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
For me, I just needed RTX 3070 ti driver to be installed. If you have the power switch on the back on, you should have the power. I'd consult with Razer for your customer support.
@Stan-rs1ne
@Stan-rs1ne 2 жыл бұрын
Would paring an RTX 3080 Ti with a Surface Laptop Studio i7 be a good idea? Wondering if the performance loss would be too much for it to be worth it.
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
That's some serious spending. In theory, that's should bring a very good performance. Not sure why you would need such amount though.
@moistmoustache420
@moistmoustache420 2 жыл бұрын
you just got me to buy one of these for my book 13 ... hoping it will work well with my 2070 super that i had lying around :)
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@moistmoustache420
@moistmoustache420 2 жыл бұрын
@@JosephKim update.... WORKS AMAZINGLY!!!
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
@@moistmoustache420 yay!
@BenBennett94
@BenBennett94 3 жыл бұрын
How do you connect this eGPU to use revit/enscape with oculus quest 2 that need a thunderbolt 3 slot?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think Quest 2 requires Thunderbolt 3?
@jonathandelapaz8679
@jonathandelapaz8679 2 жыл бұрын
what laptop do you have? Does it have an internal graphics card? If yes, which one? I'm just wondering how much of an increase of performance it was compared to the internal GPU because I have the base Razer Blade with the 2060. Just trying to compare the price of the Chroma, and whatever gpu I can get my hands on, and performance, vs price.
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
The price vs. Performance would not really make sense with the current market. my current daily driver laptop does not have dedicated GPU.
@jonathandelapaz8679
@jonathandelapaz8679 2 жыл бұрын
@@JosephKim ah, thanks for the quick response! Yeah, having a laptop without a gpu then that makes sense to have the egpu. But good video! Keep em coming!
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathandelapaz8679 :) glad to help!
@henrikg1388
@henrikg1388 3 жыл бұрын
I would be very curious how this eGPU setup compares to a high-end gaming laptop, using i9-11980HK/Ryxen 9 5900HX and a mobile RTX 3080. That is normally about 25% slower than a desktop counterpart, but I doubt that the lag of the Thunderbolt cabling will be much less. I am fully aware that my internal CPU is not upgradeable, but I haven't seen such a comparison. I have never used the Benchmarks you use, but I guess I can and compare. I do have a TimeSpy score of ~13000 though, without OC. Sorry about the late post.
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 3 жыл бұрын
No worries! It is a fair point. I just don't have access to similar speced laptops. I do have some recent laptop review that shows the result in comparison. Basically, the native ones are faster.
@henrikg1388
@henrikg1388 3 жыл бұрын
@@JosephKim Thanks for the reply. I just thought I would try the most easily accessible benchmarks to compare. If CPU is involved it is not quite fair since I have the most premium AMD 5900HX, while the i7-1165G7 is more mid-range. But what settings did you use? Screen resolution? Fullscreen? Which version of the test?
@chanzoli9509
@chanzoli9509 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Kim, How do you think the CPU i7-10850H CPU for V.ray rendering from 1-100 ? thank you
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
If it is purely for rendering, desktops are more preferable.
@lemagreengreen
@lemagreengreen 11 ай бұрын
Is there any significant differences between TB3 egpu enclosures? I see a variety of prices but... well, I don't have any real desire for fancy RGB or anything. Also as far as the benchmarks, it seems the sweet spot in terms of value with a 30 series card connected over TB3 is the 3060 or possibly 3070. It's the 4x PCIe bottleneck at play, the 3080 and above don't seem to offer significant extra performance due to it.
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 11 ай бұрын
When I tested two different units side by side (I have a video on this), I didn't see a big performance difference. I would expact 3060 or 3070 to be a sweet spot.
@fumz02
@fumz02 2 жыл бұрын
Hello there! I have a Razer Core RC21-0094. I also have an EVGA nvidia 2070 Super gpu. Would this work on my MSI laptop? It does have Thunderbolt 3 support. Just wondering if this will all work together before I break something 😅
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
I think it should work.
@ahuis101
@ahuis101 Жыл бұрын
Hey quick question I have a razer blade 15 2020 base model and im going to get the razer core what gpc should I upgrade too at the current market?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim Жыл бұрын
The Razer Core does perform well with 3070 Ti. IDK about the more recent 40 series.
@nguyenquocdoan3665
@nguyenquocdoan3665 Жыл бұрын
Hi Kim and fellow architects. I have a Dell Precision 5760, with a RTX A3000 that using the Quadro drivers. I intent to use a RTX 3080 for the eGPU, but I wonder whether it would be incompatable with the driver. Did anyone try this before and can you share your experience?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim Жыл бұрын
Since it has Thunderbolt, it think it might work.
@glenn3646
@glenn3646 3 жыл бұрын
Stupid question🤷‍♂️ like i have a helios 500 amd with vega GPU can I use a Nvidia instead for raytracing ?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think you have Thunderbolt connection if you are with AMD CPU.
@michaelvictorino4737
@michaelvictorino4737 Жыл бұрын
does this split the load between the laptop graphic card and desktop graphic card inserted? or it uses only one?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim Жыл бұрын
Only one.
@cambike
@cambike Жыл бұрын
If using dp out from egpu you would see improvement in fps?? Not using both lanes on thunderbolt releases few fps
@JosephKim
@JosephKim Жыл бұрын
Yep. That's true.
@thanveer94
@thanveer94 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, finally a relief to find this video. I have AW51MD503AU - Alienware Area 51m R2. Right now, I have 2080 super; it has been a year since I got it. i game as well as use archi software. I am planning on getting a 38' Alienware monitor AW3821WD. For better gaming performance in 3840 x 1600 resolution, thinking about getting 3090. Will NVIDIA 3090 with RAZER CORE X CHROMA, EXTERNAL GRAPHICS ENCLOSURE do the job?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, I have never been able to source or afford 3090. So I won't be able to tell you of that setup will be able to do the job. 2080 super still is a very strong card. Should be able to do most of the stuff that you do. (I also use 2080 super for my main rig)
@user-qb5is6pj1c
@user-qb5is6pj1c Жыл бұрын
Hello syed i have exactly same as your laptop and was planning to do exactly the same thing could you please inform me if you have done it and if it is good ? thank you
@horsemanstoryteller
@horsemanstoryteller 3 жыл бұрын
What do u think about Razer Book + eGPU 3090 vs Razer Book Blade 15 RTX 3080? Which one performance is better on Premiere and Unreal Engine 4?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 3 жыл бұрын
I think eGPU with 3090 will have better performance.
@horsemanstoryteller
@horsemanstoryteller 3 жыл бұрын
Yea, cuz I need that 24 VRAM and include eGPU they are almost the same prizes😥
@tahirhameed-mth1530
@tahirhameed-mth1530 Жыл бұрын
You missed one thing performance on laptop will compromised as data out/in is on same thunder bolt so external display will have better results.
@JosephKim
@JosephKim Жыл бұрын
That's true. I forgot the mention that.
@timotmon
@timotmon 3 жыл бұрын
From what I understand, Thunderbolt uses 4 PCIE Lanes whereas desktops GPUs will utilize either 16 or 8 depending on your set up. Typically it's 16 if you don't use the the first and second PCIE Slot. The funny thing is, Thunderbolt (intel) says you can get up to 40 Gbps of transfer speeds but that's pretty much impossible on 4 lanes. Just short of 32 is the reality here.
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 3 жыл бұрын
I think it depends on the laptop manufacturer dedicating how many lanes for the port. Also, ive also seen many saying 4 lanes suffice for most of GPU, if not 8. Am I totally mistaken?
@timotmon
@timotmon 3 жыл бұрын
@@JosephKim You have almost no performance loss with 8 lanes vs 16. There is a loss but it's probably 1% or less. You won't notice a difference. 4 lanes is a different story, you may be losing 15% - 20% performance or so? I haven't seen a situation where more than 4 lanes have been dedicated to a thunderbolt port but I'm can't say for sure. Thunderbolt 4 promises up to 40gbps and Thunderbolt 3 does as well.. but you really can't move that much bandwidth through 4 lanes so I'm never quite sure how they get away with that promise. It is what it is though.. eGPUs are fantastic, hopefully they'll keep pushing the tech on these and some day we can take full advantage of the performance. Edit, I can see I mentioned the 40 Gbps thing already.. ;)
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 3 жыл бұрын
@@timotmon yeah. That's fair. And you do get the performance hit on eGPU. Typically you get 70-80% of internal GPU. Perhaps this is due to the lanes. Maybe things will change as more TB4 devices roll out, and PCIE Gen 4 becomes a thing in Laptops?
@timotmon
@timotmon 3 жыл бұрын
@@JosephKim We'll Gen 4 PCIE hasn't offered a major boost to video cards.. yet. I think there's a few factors that have to come into play to make thunderbolt even faster. 1. More lanes, 2. Intels thunderbolt controller 3. The thunderbolt cable and what it can handle. As you noted there's a reason it's so short, longer cables can compromise bandwidth. This is my thinking.. I'm really not an expert. I've just battling this because I use an external GPU on a desktop for 3D rendering. I can't add another Video card to my desktop because one 3090 is enough to cause a melt down. So I pushed a 1080ti into a sort of egpu set up.. it's actually connected via a M.2 drive I get pretty good results but same issue. M.2 drives are only 4 PCIE lanes at most. I'm getting like you said, 70-80% of internal GPU on that card.
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 3 жыл бұрын
@@timotmon interesting. eGPU on a desktop :)
@mrhobbles
@mrhobbles 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Just got a 3060 and I was worried I’d be losing a ton of performance via egpu. Looks like I have to drop the cash for Razer Core achromatic though…at least I’ll have zRGBs
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
Haha. I mean, laptops are expensive. If the GPU is the only bottleneck, it's cheaper than buying a new laptop. Although, GPUs are so expensive and hard to get these days.
@FD-ms2nm
@FD-ms2nm Жыл бұрын
Let’s say money wasn’t an issue and I bought a Razer blade 16 with a 4080. Would it make any sense to get one of those with a desktop 4090 in it?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim Жыл бұрын
If the money isn't an issue, I suppose you can get it. But not sure if 4090 would fit?
@MichaelWahlgren85
@MichaelWahlgren85 2 жыл бұрын
Intresseting video, I'm thinking of replacing my desktop (i9-9900k, 3080 etc) with my dell xps 15 9510 and using my 3080 as egpu... Dont know if I'm gonna like it tho :)
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
If you wanna consolidate to a mobile solution, that seems like a possible route :)
@MaharSolutionHub
@MaharSolutionHub 2 жыл бұрын
Hello sir I am using X HPZBOOK 15u G6. 512 GB SSD 32GB RAM 16 gb shared (built in) graphic card. I want to work on sketchup and 3D Max for 3D modeling and rendering using VRAY and lumion for varipus projects. Can you suggest me some better eGPU to use the listed work and programs ?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
You can use chroma. I'd check with Lumion and their hardware recommendations as it is likely to be the one that needs the GPU.
@Danterafaelgil
@Danterafaelgil 3 жыл бұрын
I am new to your channel, but loving the videos so far! I am an architecture student, so your information is useful.
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@hoirubleadventures
@hoirubleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Joseph! Thanks for the great video. Would like some advice if u have the time. I'm currently on a Razer Blade 15 Advanced with Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10875H. Its a great laptop for gaming and content creation. However, I would like to edit 4k video even more smoothly on my external ultrawide 38-inch LG monitor. Whilst I can do so currently, I was thinking that an eGPU might enhance my setup. My questions are: 1. Given my CPU, how good a GPU could I install in the Razer Core X Chroma such that the CPU doesn't become a bottleneck? My worry is that even if I install the best GPU, my CPU may not be able to harness the potential of the GPU and it might be a waste. 2. I wanted to attach daisy chain a USB Dock to the eGPU to make ports more accessible but of course the Core X only has 1 TB port. What are your thoughts on using the Akitio Node Duo that has 2 TB ports? The only issue with it I find is that it only generates 500W which leads to my last question... 3. What GPU do u think would be suitable for the Node Duo to partner with the Razer Blade 15? I hear that the power generated should account for 2x the power required so I assume I could use a GPU that requires 250W? Appreciate any advice if you have the time :)
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
The bottleneck of GPU is scaling. Meaning whatever the performance, 90% is what you can utilize. Thunderbolt can be daisy chained, but each port and length will bottleneck in terms of bandwidth. It is unlikely for you to fill up all of that in mormal tasks, but is possible. Yeah, power maybe a problem. I wish they allowed us to swap out the PSU.
@hoirubleadventures
@hoirubleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
@@JosephKim thanks for taking the time! I'm gonna try and go with daisy chaining the node duo with a razer dock chroma for tht ease of access and to keep the thunderbolt cables as short as possible. As for the GPU, I'm gonna use an RTX3060 as it's not so power hungry. I really hope this works and gives that added boost when it's all plugged into to a 38inch ultra wide monitor. 🥲🥲🥲 If it doesn't, I might have to sell the bits for parts hah...
@studiowaelz9204
@studiowaelz9204 Жыл бұрын
@@hoirubleadventures Hey could you give an update on your setup? Did it worked out in the end?
@jeremiahkeithsantos2862
@jeremiahkeithsantos2862 3 жыл бұрын
Hey there joseph i have a question about this so i have a alienware gaming laptop 17 and i wanna make it go faster it has a gpu 770m but if i buy this and buy another gpu will that work?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 3 жыл бұрын
It would have to have the Thunderbolt 3 connection. Judging by the GPU model, I think you don't have it.
@Cornel1001
@Cornel1001 Жыл бұрын
I have the Core X with a Lenovo T470s, and a Quadro K5000. They just work !
@JosephKim
@JosephKim Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you would have paid hefty amount of cash for that!
@Cornel1001
@Cornel1001 Жыл бұрын
Prices are very low now
@tombouie
@tombouie Жыл бұрын
Thks
@JosephKim
@JosephKim Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@johnnywaffles6870
@johnnywaffles6870 Жыл бұрын
Can you do VR with this set up? Like develop it in Unity and test it on your Oculus 2?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim Жыл бұрын
Yes!
@richard.garcia1984
@richard.garcia1984 2 жыл бұрын
What about gaming tests? So we can compare. Thank you!
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
I can don't bandwidth to cover games as I don't really play any. Sorry
@DariuszLuber
@DariuszLuber 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. What about power supply? RTX 3080 needs about 650W and Razer Core X Chroma has max 500W for GPU.
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
Is that what's recommended on their website vs. The actual draw of 3080?
@DariuszLuber
@DariuszLuber 2 жыл бұрын
@@JosephKim Yes, this is on their website. I saw at outervision.com/power-supply-calculator that RTX 3080 require 440W - so probably they suggest higher valuer to have some margin. I need to put new GPU to my Razer Core X Chroma, because mine RTX 2070 TI went to the service and they didn't repair it - they decided to return me my money :/ , so my only comment to that situation is: fu...) So unfortunetly I need to buy new one and I'm buying RTX 3060 TI, which from documentation require 600W power suply but at calculator it shows 317W so I hope everything will work :) Thanks for video, because it showed me that everything should work fine :)
@Exotic_22
@Exotic_22 Жыл бұрын
I have a gaming laptop but it dose not have a thunder bolt 3 port but a normal type c port could I get an adapter for it or would it not work then
@JosephKim
@JosephKim Жыл бұрын
It would not work, unfortunately.
@chanzoli9509
@chanzoli9509 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Kim, is it possible you can post the link for buying Manli RTX 3080?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, no. It is not possible to buy GPUs now.
@madboi1591
@madboi1591 2 жыл бұрын
Hey I have an amd g15 rog zephyrus and doesn't have thunderbolt but has USB c . Will this work with my rtx 3080 to work fine ?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
It would have to be Thunderbolt unfortunately.
@amunrakane
@amunrakane 10 ай бұрын
I have a razer core x with a rtx 3080 fe paired to a surface pro 9 & it sure does put out better graphics than my old aurora r12 3070, debating if I should get the chroma version & upgrade the psu, fans & i/o port.
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 10 ай бұрын
I don't remember exactly, but not sure if you can upgrade the PSU?
@amunrakane
@amunrakane 10 ай бұрын
@@JosephKim you could upgrade the psu, just a little fabrication & finding the right parts. I plan on getting the 3090 TI now, I already have the razer core x chroma version 😂. It's amazing, I'm intrigued by it more than the razer core x, that rgb feels exclusive 😂 but I have a garage tool cabinet gaming build coming along & hopefully will send some clips of it to some KZfaq streamers to see what their reaction would be.
@martinvanstein.youtube
@martinvanstein.youtube Жыл бұрын
I use Maya & Arnold , also DaVinci and I was wondering if an eGPU would work here as well . Thing is a new laptop (with last gen tech) with good specs will cost way more than even this razor thing with a RTX 4090 (even though teh pricing is bonkers) and a renderfarm is expensive too when you start rendering teh good stuff ... so if it works it might be a good solution ...if it works
@JosephKim
@JosephKim Жыл бұрын
It still is going to be bottlenecked and as it is Thunderbolt 3, I am not sure how much the GPU can leverage/face limits. As I don't have resources to test the latest gen cards, we will have to see ;)
@martinvanstein.youtube
@martinvanstein.youtube Жыл бұрын
@@JosephKim I understand there will be some bottleneck ... but back in the day I built my own PC's and found bottlenecks were always present and it is more a question of balancing them out ... my question is more how much of a bottleneck and if I can render what I need within a certain timeframe vs using a renderfarm (looking at long term costs, I understand that €1800+ a eGPU box will be a big expense, but certain renders (when using specular and refractions etc) will cost about €1 a frame , my average timerange is 230 frames .... so cost wise it might make sense to make a big expense now ... anyway thanks for answering and if you get a chance to do a new video at some point ... do some tests with Maya & Arnold please ... LOL
@yogu2191
@yogu2191 3 жыл бұрын
After windows 10 update, my gpu chroma won't work now, any advice?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 3 жыл бұрын
No idea. Sorry :/
@hman2875
@hman2875 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the kits for plugging the eGPU into your m.2 slot would perform similarly
@JosephKim
@JosephKim Жыл бұрын
I don't think m.2 has capabilities to carry GPU signal though..
@hman2875
@hman2875 Жыл бұрын
@@JosephKim have a look :) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bth8gdaqmtaZcnk.html&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE
@HaramiSalami420
@HaramiSalami420 2 жыл бұрын
Is there any possibility to connect a display to the eGPU?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, you should!
@kamenotost22
@kamenotost22 3 жыл бұрын
Does rtx3090 fit inside razer core x chroma? what do you think?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 3 жыл бұрын
I really am not sure. Obviously, it will depend on which card you get, but the thickness may be a problem.
@Tech4Meme
@Tech4Meme 3 жыл бұрын
I'm using Asus ROG G752VT GTX980M 6th Gen CPU. Will it work?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think it has thunderbolt, does it?
@bajaputih9225
@bajaputih9225 3 жыл бұрын
No
@alexpetchesi6968
@alexpetchesi6968 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to purchase a monitor such as lg38wn95c and connect to a regular work laptop (which I do not have control). Main usage would be for multiple windows and programming tasks (but not machine learning (ML) that is GPU intensive)). In the past I had issues connecting a regular Dell I received from work to a 27 inch Dell 2k monitor. Is a eGPU (external) setup combined with the lg38wn95c monitor a solution to guarantee that the setup with a regular laptop will work. On the laptop side, are there any mandatory requirements (at least Thunderbolt 3, Windows OS) or alternatives I should be aware of to be able to manage my setup in case my laptop changes? Any recommendations regarding the GPU . (models) I will not use this setup for any gaming purposes (but might use it in the future for ML).Thank you!
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
To put it simple, yes the Thunderbolt interface is an absolute requirement. As to the GPU option, it is pretty much whatever you can find without breaking the bank. (it is impossible to get one at reasonable price atm) when you get all set up, it should be a problem connecting different monitors. It is rare that a monitor simply does not work with a laptop though. Try different cables and resolutions.
@alexpetchesi6968
@alexpetchesi6968 2 жыл бұрын
@@JosephKim so I should just connect directly with usb c or hdmi 4k?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexpetchesi6968 try HDMI. You will have better luck.
@alexpetchesi6968
@alexpetchesi6968 2 жыл бұрын
@@JosephKim thank you.
@SupremeBeever
@SupremeBeever 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexpetchesi6968 is there any update regarding this? I am planning on getting the same setup for programming and light gaming. So the same ultrawide LG monitor that supports 144hz, and egpu with maybe a 3070, and my Surface pro 8 that supports thunderbolt 4. One thing I've learned while researching this kind of setup, I don't think you can get the full 144hz of the monitor if you connect to the thunderbolt port at the back of the monitor (USB-C to USB-C). I think you'd need a USB-C to display port to get the full refresh rate.
@ejkitchen
@ejkitchen 2 жыл бұрын
I have an NVIDIA A100 that will easily fit in this enclosure. I don't want to play games but use it for AI training. Do you foresee any issues with my Dell Precision 5500 which has Thunderbolt 3 and Windows 10 Pro?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, I have no idea. I don't even know where to begin. Lol
@ejkitchen
@ejkitchen 2 жыл бұрын
@@JosephKim Thanks for the quick response! It's hard to find info on this config for some reason. Guess it's going to cost me $400 to find out!
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
@@ejkitchen haha yeah! There are other eGPU solutions out there though. I reviewed another recently.
@ayasugihada
@ayasugihada Жыл бұрын
@@ejkitchen how did it go, Eric? I am thinking about buying egpu for Stable Diffusion and other AI. Not really keen on buying the whole setup. Thx
@Bondtran007
@Bondtran007 Жыл бұрын
HI Kim, my laptop already came with the RTX A3000 card. im using this setup with a Quadro P5000. how will Windows manage to have both cards running at the same time? i cannot disable the A3000 because it keeps showing up. should i just leave as it is? thank you
@JosephKim
@JosephKim Жыл бұрын
You can't use the two at the same time. The system will need to understand which one you want to use.
@Bondtran007
@Bondtran007 Жыл бұрын
@@JosephKim yes, but how do i let the system know? is there a setting or a program i can use to turn off the A3000? because i tried to uninstall the A3000 and next restart, windows keeps reinstall it automatically
@JosephKim
@JosephKim Жыл бұрын
because that is your default, you wouldn't be able to completely uninstall it - and A3000 will continue to show. Once you got it working, you can disable it in the device manager, I think.
@TVdatMiles
@TVdatMiles 3 жыл бұрын
may i ask if RTX 3090 will work on razer core x?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 3 жыл бұрын
I think it depends on the brand.
@PatrioticQuadriplegic
@PatrioticQuadriplegic Жыл бұрын
Is this compatible with my Microsoft surface laptop studio 14" 2022?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim Жыл бұрын
I am not sure, but if it has Thunderbolt, probably.
@sungyeonsong644
@sungyeonsong644 2 жыл бұрын
When buying this, does it already comes with graphics card?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
No GPU included.
@geekinginandout
@geekinginandout 10 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@danurdaraanugrah7746
@danurdaraanugrah7746 2 жыл бұрын
Hello mate... I have laptop with rtx 3070 and im gonna use egpu with rtx 2060 inside...on lumion the gpu run together or just one them?? 🙏🏻
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
It will be one of them, it might be tricky telling your machine which one to use. Also, you might not get much of performance gain.
@danurdaraanugrah7746
@danurdaraanugrah7746 2 жыл бұрын
Ouch..just one of them🙈😁🤭 Ty for your explanation mate..🙏🏻☺️
@noiseforthealgorithm4668
@noiseforthealgorithm4668 Ай бұрын
brother a quick question from a noob. I need a egpu with my laptop for external monitors (for work, not gaming). The amount of monitors I will be able to connect uniquely depends from the graphic card I will buy, not on the Razer Core X itself, correct?? thanks
@JosephKim
@JosephKim Ай бұрын
That's correct! Each GPU has different amount of ports and types.
@noiseforthealgorithm4668
@noiseforthealgorithm4668 Ай бұрын
@@JosephKim great thanks!
@cjanlemmens
@cjanlemmens 3 жыл бұрын
My laptop does not have a thunderbold port. Are there other options to connect.
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, no.
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryanbailey3176 it can run downhill. :)
@ahmedyusuf5181
@ahmedyusuf5181 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, so I want to buy the base model of razer book 13 i5 and razer core with a gtx 1660 ti or ex 5600 xt. I want to play battlefield 2042 will I be able to get 80 FPS on medium settings?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I am not sure as I have not played that game before.
@ahmedyusuf5181
@ahmedyusuf5181 2 жыл бұрын
Oh okay do you have any benchmarks for any games?
@iatepacman745
@iatepacman745 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I’m new to this, so can I basically use this razer x to plug in my gaming hp omen laptop as it has a thunderbolt port and play with the latest graphics card on my laptop?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 3 жыл бұрын
Yep!
@iatepacman745
@iatepacman745 3 жыл бұрын
@@JosephKim thanks for fast reply man, have a great day
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 3 жыл бұрын
@@iatepacman745 Thanks for watching!
@JasonZAce
@JasonZAce 2 жыл бұрын
Found this video really helpful! and wanted to say hi to my fellow Kim (my name is Jason Kim xD)
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Jason Kim :)
@Solo-Q8910
@Solo-Q8910 2 жыл бұрын
I cant believe rtx 3080 egpu is on par wih rtx 2080super desktop... Can you make a video of rendering a same scene with egpu and desktop?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
They were all done on the same scene. But there are many variables such as laptop thermals and specific video card drivers...etc.
@ItsameBS
@ItsameBS 2 жыл бұрын
Can you close the laptop screen and run off other monitor?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
You have to set your laptop to be that way.
@Colesie
@Colesie 2 жыл бұрын
Does anybody know if it comes with the graphics card in it?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
No it doesn't!
@igaryherrera
@igaryherrera Жыл бұрын
Hello, I really liked the video, I plan to buy a 20gb RTX A4500 and mount it on a Razer Core X Chroma to use d5 render, it would be very helpful to confirm if I can use 100% of the 20gb Vram of the A4500, so I can do bigger projects. my laptop is a Levono ThinkPad P1 Gen 4i laptop with an i7-11850H and RTX 3070 8gb
@JosephKim
@JosephKim Жыл бұрын
Sorry, I have not tried A4500. Perhaps ask Razer?
@igaryherrera
@igaryherrera Жыл бұрын
@@JosephKim Thanks for your quick response, but what I would really like to confirm is if with an eGPU you can use all the Vram of the GPU, for programs like D5 render that its greatest demand is the vram.
@JosephKim
@JosephKim Жыл бұрын
@@igaryherrera for all GPUs that I tried, it used all the VRAM. But they didn't have 20GB. I wonder if the Thunderbolt 3 has any limitations.
@ic3way355
@ic3way355 2 жыл бұрын
can i use my 3080 from my laptop and another 3090 PC same time ?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
Nope!
@fernandomingo2398
@fernandomingo2398 2 жыл бұрын
Joseph do you ever get the notification that the thunderbolt 3 port is limited functionality?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
Are you using the correct cable?
@fernandomingo2398
@fernandomingo2398 2 жыл бұрын
@@JosephKim Yes, the thunderbolt 3. It was working yesterday but my Razer notebook does not detect it. The chassis fan is working, and the notebook is charging but no detection of graphic card.
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
@@fernandomingo2398 sounds like the laptop is acticting up for some reason. I advise reboot all devices and reconnect.
@fernandomingo2398
@fernandomingo2398 2 жыл бұрын
@@JosephKim Thanks Joseph. I did and suddenly it works. I may buy another cable which is longer as I believe that the length and tension may be an issue. The thing is totally random as all drivers are up to date and the cable came with the EGPU.
@deebakashwinviswanathan4343
@deebakashwinviswanathan4343 3 жыл бұрын
joseph i need to know the best laptop for architecture.... like the best of all... some say msi some say razer or Rog or dell.... please guide me with this... i just need a laptop that can support all heavy softwares
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 3 жыл бұрын
It is because there is no 'best'. What's the best fruit? And why laptop?
@deebakashwinviswanathan4343
@deebakashwinviswanathan4343 3 жыл бұрын
@@JosephKim better among all.. laptop because I travel a lot... so laptop suits my situation better.. please assist me with this
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 3 жыл бұрын
@@deebakashwinviswanathan4343 I really can't say one is better than others as I have not had top end laptops from Razer, Asus, or Dell. Again, I dont even know what architecture tasks you do. Sorry, but I can't answer that.
@deebakashwinviswanathan4343
@deebakashwinviswanathan4343 3 жыл бұрын
@@JosephKim yah i get it.. thanks for your help though man
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 3 жыл бұрын
@@deebakashwinviswanathan4343 thank you, and sorry for not being able to help!
@flame3303
@flame3303 4 ай бұрын
What if laptop have a gpu, and using it with a egpu, how is that two gpu work ?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 4 ай бұрын
It will be more trickier to make laptops with GPU work with eGPU. (driver issues). Also, when two GPUs are connected, one will not fuction.
@ali-topuz
@ali-topuz 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, my system is intel i7 8700K and my video card is Nvidia GTX 1060 O.C. Can I get performance if I use Razer Core X Chrome eGPU and RTX 3060 TI, 3070 TI graphics card for 3D modeling and rendering?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
You will have significant performance gain by running 3060 ti or 3070 ti. But it also sounds like you have a desktop. Why not just put those cards in your machine?
@ali-topuz
@ali-topuz 2 жыл бұрын
@@JosephKim Thank you so much for answer my ask. I have laptop.
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
@@ali-topuz yeah. It would definitely be a significant upgrade then.
@ali-topuz
@ali-topuz 2 жыл бұрын
@@JosephKim Thanks dude :)
@Schluggaluggas
@Schluggaluggas 5 ай бұрын
I was thinking about getting a razer core x and a 4070 super, and seeing its that simple, i am pretty relieved xd my laptop 2050 is good for cs2, but i tried playing ark ascended, and though this game is pretty unpotimized, i only got 30 fps on lowest settings. But i need the portability of my probook, so an egpu makes sense, especially at home where i also have a monitor :)
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 5 ай бұрын
I've heard reports of difficulty in connecting/configuring the laptop and the eGPU if you have a GPU in laptop already. You might be okay, but approach with caution.
@Schluggaluggas
@Schluggaluggas 5 ай бұрын
@@JosephKim couldnt i theoretically just disable the laptop gpu in device manager when using the desktop egpu? Thanks for the tip though, i will be cautious 😅
@KimSong11455
@KimSong11455 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the Video, I was wondering how was the performance with RTX 3080, I have got the Razer blade 15 with 2080 Max-q and the Core X. It seems to me that it is good to have core X at home with Razer Blade, you can basically plug and go. But the price of RTX 3080 is quite high at the moment, and not able to get one. Haha. Again, thanks for the video.
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the GPU prices are completely out of whack, this setup wouldn't make sense until it comes to its senses.
@anbuzero367
@anbuzero367 Жыл бұрын
Thus thing is so cool 😍
@xotic4667
@xotic4667 2 жыл бұрын
would it work on a lenovo laptop??
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
As long it has Thunderbolt 3.
@anbuzero367
@anbuzero367 Жыл бұрын
Would a Asus Rog Strix fit in this thing ?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim Жыл бұрын
Depends on the model. I wouldn't know. You can check their specs.
@ogholdler
@ogholdler 2 жыл бұрын
can you fit in a 3090 into razer core x chroma
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
I am not sure. Sorry.
@TheRfmodulator
@TheRfmodulator 2 жыл бұрын
I have a ZOTAC RTX 3090 AMP Core Holo in one of mine. It fits like a glove. I split a power connector for the 3x8-pin. About 6 months in and no issues yet.
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheRfmodulator nice! What is the name of the laptop?
@TheRfmodulator
@TheRfmodulator 2 жыл бұрын
@@JosephKim Area 51m r2
@boigwapo
@boigwapo 2 жыл бұрын
Is it worth buying? And does it make your laptop not heat up?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
If you can justify the cost. It won't heat up as much as it would with internal GPU.
@boigwapo
@boigwapo 2 жыл бұрын
@@JosephKim oh bet, yeah I don’t care about the price. I just want something that won’t bs me
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
@@boigwapo the performance would be great if you can find a GPU. Also, make sure the task is GPU focused.
@boigwapo
@boigwapo 2 жыл бұрын
@@JosephKim oh, how do you do that? And do you know what type of gpu is the one for my Razer Blade 15 Base with Intel Core i7 10500 GeForce RTX 2070 Max Q
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 2 жыл бұрын
@@boigwapo you will have to do a bit of research. RTX 2070 max Q is a good card. You will have to put something really beefy to find large gain in performance.
@TechCoreDuo
@TechCoreDuo Жыл бұрын
you take a hit because the desktop mobo has 16x pcie lanes while thunderbolt caps at 4x
@JosephKim
@JosephKim Жыл бұрын
Yep
@HitorMissHallmark
@HitorMissHallmark 3 жыл бұрын
Can this be used for desktop as well?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 3 жыл бұрын
Theoretically, if the desktop has Thunderbolt, you can. But probably not really beneficial. Unless, it is one of those mini PCs without rooms for GPU.
@HitorMissHallmark
@HitorMissHallmark 3 жыл бұрын
@@JosephKim Thanks very much. I'm just trying to avoid taking my iMac apart and placing the GPU in the back.
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 3 жыл бұрын
@@HitorMissHallmark iMac is a whole different deal, as compatibility can be an issue. Macs behavice a whole lot different to windows.
@HitorMissHallmark
@HitorMissHallmark 3 жыл бұрын
@@JosephKim Yes, as I'm starting to research, I'm slowly seeing what my options are. I think I need a NVMe SSD.
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 3 жыл бұрын
Learning is fun! Unless Nvme is directly attached to the motherboard, you are u likely to see a huge difference in speed.
@chy2994
@chy2994 7 ай бұрын
so its just a case?
@JosephKim
@JosephKim 7 ай бұрын
And PSU.
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