Eyes Wide Shut (1999): Bizarre Theories Revealed

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2 ай бұрын

Examining, revealing, and debunking bizarre theories of Eyes Wide Shut.
Written & Researched by Owen Hammer of Hammered Out ‪@hammeredout8146‬
Check out my second channel CineG Too ‪@CineGToo‬
References
1 “Kubrick” by Michael Herr. Vanity Fair, August 1999.
2 “Nicole Kidman on Life With Tom Cruise Through Stanley Kubrick's Lens” by Merle Ginsberg. The
Hollywood Reporter, 24 October, 2012.
3 “On Kubrick: A Talk with Kubrick Documentarian Jan Harlan.” DVDTalk 2014.
4 "Movie Geeks United! - The Kubrick Series.” Movie Geeks United!, 7 January 7, 2017
5 “Cruise and Kidman wrecked Eyes Wide Shut, Kubrick claimed” by Betsy Reed. The Guardian, 5
October, 2006.
6 “Todd Field-Little Children.” Groucho Reviews, 18 October, 2006.
7 www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comment...
8 • David Wilcock: The Mis...
Music credit:
Ethereal Relaxation by Kevin MacLeod
#eyeswideshut #stanleykubrick

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@credoratat3272
@credoratat3272 Ай бұрын
He died 666 days before 01.01.2001 ?
@Corn_Pone_Flicks
@Corn_Pone_Flicks Ай бұрын
So?
@MelancoliaI
@MelancoliaI 4 күн бұрын
With regard to Michael Herr, he didn't write the source material for Full Metal Jacket. Gustav Hasford's book The Short-Timers was the source
@runarvollan
@runarvollan Ай бұрын
"Was she the woman at the party? You called it a sharade." Ziegler called The House a sharade, not The Party.
@writeralbertlanier3434
@writeralbertlanier3434 Ай бұрын
I analyzed Eyes Wide Shut as a guest on the film podcast Crooked Table ( now Close Watch) back in 2019 during the films 20th anniversary. Thus as someone who has formally dissected EWS, it's nice to see a rational, reasoned, practical, common sense look at the kooky, loopy and sometimes spooky theories surrounding this film. It's unfortunate that people use EWS as a template upon which to write their macabre maniacal fantasies but such are the risks I f the internet when it comes to films
@USLethal
@USLethal 2 ай бұрын
I’m not saying Ermey was right or wrong, I’m just saying everyone who has discredited him on record has a pretty good self-serving reason to do so.
@rayankada
@rayankada 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the vid
@sole__doubt
@sole__doubt 2 ай бұрын
I love a good conspiracy theory but the ones about the cabal and Kubrick never convinced me.
@runarvollan
@runarvollan Ай бұрын
"Was she the woman at the party? You called it a sharade." Ziegler called The House a sharade, not The Party.
@YellowJello57
@YellowJello57 2 ай бұрын
If anything, I think the lens flare is another rainbow
@ionathelle
@ionathelle 2 ай бұрын
You have clip on YT, "Clockwork Orange" - Alex at the Korova Milk-Bar", and you can see Kubrick literally wrote on the wall "Moloko drencrom" (moloko means milk in Ukrainian, or Russian) - but no one talked about it for decades, only marginally after Epstein's death. So for me it's hard to imagine that Kubrick would put such clues in his movies for general public, and for any good purpose, to save anything, or anyone.
@hammeredout8146
@hammeredout8146 2 ай бұрын
"drencrom" like adrenochrome? Wow, I'm amazed the lunatic brigade hasn't picked up on that.
@IAteFire
@IAteFire 2 ай бұрын
That’s taken directly from the book, so it’s not some genius 4D chess move on Kubrick’s part. Most of these conspiracy theories involve things taken from the books Kubrick was adapting. He wasn’t a genius, just a meticulous artist creating films of his favorite novels.
@hammeredout8146
@hammeredout8146 2 ай бұрын
@@IAteFire That's true. If you watch CPFs video on The Shining, a lot of the "secret clues" from Kubrick were in the book. Ditto for Eyes Wide Shut and Traumnovelle.
@Tyln93
@Tyln93 Ай бұрын
ADRENOCHROME!!!
@tylerscott2116
@tylerscott2116 2 ай бұрын
Buddy, with all do respect. Kubrick studied subliminal messages, cryptics, semiotics, and symbolism. He did speak through code. All of his films have consistent occult themes if you attribute any meaning to symbols in a film made by a guy who was obsessed with them. This video is such a huge L that it borders on parody. People who come to certain conclusions regarding Kubricks films don't believe we are special, we just believe we have caught on to something that has taken generations for most film fans to catch on to only because we are blessed with the internet. The way you dismiss the theory of the secret society being a devil worshipping cult is as if you are controlled opposition. You're definitely in the algorithm for a reason.
@Corn_Pone_Flicks
@Corn_Pone_Flicks 2 ай бұрын
Well, "buddy," with all DUE respect, you offer no evidence. You claim Kubrick was obsessed with codes and symbols, but that doesn't mean he littered his films with them, and that doesn't mean that, even if he had, they supported these particular claims. I'd ask for actual supporting evidence, but I've encountered responses like this on my own channel enough to know that if evidence isn't provided in the initial post, it never will be.
@FrankRonGerards
@FrankRonGerards 2 ай бұрын
​@@Corn_Pone_Flicks The secret society is led by a priest in a red cloak and surrounded by nude women. It's a subversion of the Catholic Mass. It's definitely meant to be Satanic; it's meant to be a Black Mass. Kubrick had an assistant who supplied him with literature and art about secret societies and the Black Mass in preparation for Eyes Wide Shut. We even witness the human sacrifice, it's the masked woman. It's really not that far-fetched to believe, because we see it happen on screen. Some people just have their eyes wide shut.
@NextToToddliness
@NextToToddliness 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, Kubrick wanted to ruin the elegance of his films with clunky conspiracy theories and dead-end nonsense.... Some people need to get a better hobby than trying to attach themselves to profound people's lives in such nonsensical ways. It's a bizarre parasocial relationship, which ironically Kubrick no doubt would've put in his work had he somehow lived into the present. - Don't confuse pareidolia for prophesy. Spend enough time staring into at the wall, you'll start to see faces...
@NextToToddliness
@NextToToddliness 2 ай бұрын
@aristotlewasnotafanofplato3661 I think taking another person's work out of context, especially without concrete evidence, is a childish fool's errand. Kubrick's life is well documented, even by his own hand, as his background is in photojournalism. As I pointed out in another comment, had he wanted to put codes in his films, it'd be greater than "rocket sweater = fake moon landing". You people need to go outside and "touch grass", because you aren't nearly as creative as he was. End of story.
@NextToToddliness
@NextToToddliness 2 ай бұрын
​@aristotlewasnotafanofplato3661 This whole video is discussing theories concerning Kubrick's work, which is why OP commented in the first place. If you're going to talk about projection, you should use it correctly first. The topic of "conspiracy theories" were inferred, and as I pointed out in another comment: had Kubrick wanted to put secret codes in his films, they'd be more complex and hidden than "rocket sweater = fake moon landing". It's pretty obvious what his films are about, as the symbols and themes all work perfectly together. What's the Conspiracy Theory for AI? Kubrick was warning us that robots were going to become too lovable? LOL.
@bobbyokeefe4285
@bobbyokeefe4285 Ай бұрын
That hiding in plain sight Shining video is one of the stupidest videos ever made on the Shining,he obliterated jack shit,a lot of straw-maning,just because some people have far-fetched theories doesn't mean that the Shining can just be reduced to a film about Ghosts and that's it,very shallow.
@Corn_Pone_Flicks
@Corn_Pone_Flicks Ай бұрын
Exactly what straw-manning did I do? Examples?
@barbablanca2845
@barbablanca2845 Ай бұрын
PLEASE do Late night with the devil. there are so many hidden messages/symbols in that movie.
@davidmckayii752
@davidmckayii752 2 ай бұрын
Word up. I think you're probably right, or and so is Kubrick. Guy was too SMART to not make this movie a reveal piece.
@marksisto900
@marksisto900 2 ай бұрын
Ermey came down with Death
@marksisto900
@marksisto900 2 ай бұрын
Was he in " The club".? And he talked out of school, And died just as was cut . #1 #2 #3 # 4 for sure
@marksisto900
@marksisto900 2 ай бұрын
Wilcock is silly man...
@Tyln93
@Tyln93 Ай бұрын
FİDELİO!!!
@Lil_Stomachache
@Lil_Stomachache 2 ай бұрын
Thank you bro
@airanthony3
@airanthony3 2 ай бұрын
O wow u did a classic
@Tasha.Nola.Bae1
@Tasha.Nola.Bae1 2 ай бұрын
Hey I love you channel ❤❤
@FrankRonGerards
@FrankRonGerards 2 ай бұрын
There's no 20 minutes missing and Kubrick wasn't murdered, but this movie is still rife with allegories and Easter eggs.
@hammeredout8146
@hammeredout8146 2 ай бұрын
Allegory, yes, Easter eggs? It's not really Kubrick's style. In fact, hiding little jokes didn't really become popular until after Kubrick's death.
@FrankRonGerards
@FrankRonGerards 2 ай бұрын
@@hammeredout8146 Would you say that a reference to a novel, another movie, or a work of art is an allegory, an Easter egg, or something else?
@hammeredout8146
@hammeredout8146 2 ай бұрын
@@FrankRonGerards It depends. "Easter egg" is usually a term used to describe something trivial while an allegory is a term used to describe an entire work.
@hammeredout8146
@hammeredout8146 2 ай бұрын
@@FrankRonGerards Interesting. I'll have to make a "part 3" now. Thank you for that.
@marksisto900
@marksisto900 2 ай бұрын
Jay Winder is a better source
@Stang2023
@Stang2023 2 ай бұрын
One comment per video, please.
@mariolopez-oi2td
@mariolopez-oi2td 2 ай бұрын
@@Stang2023 Are you the youtube police?
@Corn_Pone_Flicks
@Corn_Pone_Flicks 2 ай бұрын
If you mean Jay Weidner, that guy is a straight-up liar. He claimed that the Overlook hotel had no room 217 in order to push some lame-brained theory about an alternate reason for the room number change. The hotel very much says otherwise. He claims the carpet in the Overlook looks like Launchpad 39A at Cape Canaveral. Anyone with Google image search can see otherwise. People like that count on the laziness of people who just want to believe.
@hammeredout8146
@hammeredout8146 2 ай бұрын
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks "Crazy Guy A is a better source than Crazy Guy B."
@NextToToddliness
@NextToToddliness 2 ай бұрын
"Eyes Wide Shut" is a male-centered horror-fantasy about infidelity, masculinity, isolation and the male identity within the "American Dream", which is why Tom & Nicole were chosen. It's why it's Christmas, etc. At the time, Cruise & Kidman were considered the "Ideal American Couple", which is why they were cast together (for the time, and still now, this is almost unheard of). Kubrick was using our real life attachments to images like those created using Tom & Nicole, or Christmas, and turning them on their head for the purpose of deconstruction. This film, which is shot like a dreamy, romantic wonderland, is actually a nightmarish hell-scape created within the mind of a man with an ego as large, as it is fragile. The secret society, much like the gang of angry young men, are there to symbolically castrate Bill and impose a more domineering, ambiguous force over his perceived self-importance. In essence, Kubrick was addressing Toxic Masculinity the way Fight Club did (which, incidentally came out the same year). I know that will probably bother male viewers, but it's so obvious. The entire self-flatulating narrative is kicked off by the Ideal Man's Ideal wife telling him of a intimate fantasy she has about being unfaithful to him... - Any allusions or symbols extrapolated are strictly tied to those core themes. Kubrick was eccentric, but he wasn't a conspiracy theorist. He was a highly rational, methodical man who wanted to try to understand humanity through his work, as he always took a photojournalistic approach to it. He was a genius, and if he had wanted to put secret codes in his work, it'd be more complex than "rocket sweater = fake moon landing". I mean c'mon people!
@sole__doubt
@sole__doubt 2 ай бұрын
Ive read a million different takes on EWS and I think yours might be the best yet as far as capturing the theme. Well said, modern ideas of what it means to be a man, yeah thats as succinct as I could put it when describing the movie. I dont see it as toxic masculinity though Id describe as classic or conventional masculinity. I think toxic is reading into it a bit much, thats perhaps how you see it. Bill sees challenge after challenge to what is classically defined as masculine. Whether you think thats toxic is up to you, I do not.
@NextToToddliness
@NextToToddliness 2 ай бұрын
​@@sole__doubt Kubrick's last films "Eyes Wide Shut" and "A.I.: Artificial Intelligence" were created at the very end of his life. He wanted to talk about two important topics to him: His own personal identity (a human man) and his fear of death / being a parent. Essentially, they are an ode to the very complex relationship he had with his wife and children. I think in a lot of ways, it was him explaining himself to them. Throughout Bill & Alice's apartment you can see Christiane Kubrick's artwork showcased exclusively, as the house represents familial safety. Kubrick, like Bill, was a man who "made his way in the world", but in the process neglected his duties as a husband, and to a certain extent as a father. In my opinion, both films are his most personal works, which is why "Eyes Wide Shut" took 15 months to shoot, and why Stanley ended up asking his long time friend Spielberg to finish AI (as he just didn't think he could do the story justice, the way Steven could). That being said, as a perennial loner / outsider, Kubrick was always trying to understand humans, so that he could understand himself (or be understood), so in away, all his films are deeply personal.
@Sleepdriver1984
@Sleepdriver1984 2 ай бұрын
...except those who worked on this movie with him acknowledged he was trying to distantiate himself from his jewish heritage (a bit like Marx did, in a sense), nothing wrong with this.
@Sleepdriver1984
@Sleepdriver1984 2 ай бұрын
​@aristotlewasnotafanofplato3661 notice Ishtar's star, rather, on top of those christmas trees
@NextToToddliness
@NextToToddliness 2 ай бұрын
@aristotlewasnotafanofplato3661 "Kubrick frequently removed references to the Jewishness of characters in the novels he adapted. In Eyes Wide Shut, Frederic Raphael, who is Jewish, wanted to keep the Jewish background of the protagonists, but Kubrick disagreed and removed details that would identify characters as Jewish. Kubrick determined Bill should be a "Harrison Ford-ish goy" and created the surname of Harford as an allusion to the actor. In the film, Bill is taunted with homophobic slurs. In the novella, the taunters are members of an anti-Semitic college fraternity." Sources: Cocks, Geoffrey (2004). The Wolf at the Door: Stanley Kubrick, History, & the Holocaust. Peter Lang. Raphael, Frederic (2000). Eyes Wide Open. A Memoir of Stanley Kubrick and Eyes Wide Shut. - Get a new hobby, your fan fiction is terrible. And no, your Straw Man arguments are yet again wrong. I didn't say it was about Christmas. I said it was about deconstruction. You know, your profile name does a disservice to those great minds of philosophy.
@rokuk3nshin
@rokuk3nshin Ай бұрын
Lol just wow. It must be nice being so naive
@DAGDRUM53
@DAGDRUM53 Ай бұрын
I like Eyes Wide Shut, but after watching it a few times several things started getting on my nerves. Most off-putting is the backward liturgy in the castle, the first time or two watching the film that music bestowed a creepiness of the scene as intended. Anytime Cruise is interacting with any female (except Mandy & the coffee shop girl) is fast forward time. The high point of EWS for me is the costume shop scene (part one) when Boris the Blade steals the movie from every actor who has the misfortune of sharing the frame with him. Rade is usually cast as a villain you can't help but like because his superlative comic timing is second to none.
@TheStockwell
@TheStockwell 2 ай бұрын
Don't forget that this is the same Kubrick who faked the moon landing in exchange for used camera parts he could've just bought. If anyone ELSE had the financial and physical resources of NASA and multiple branches of the government at their disposal, they would've asked for a government position, a state-of-the-art movie studio, or at least enough money to do a film about Napoleon. Not Kubrick. No, sir! He demanded used camera parts. What a goof! 😸
@runarvollan
@runarvollan Ай бұрын
If he faked it, if would've looked real:-p
@DailyNihilism
@DailyNihilism 2 ай бұрын
Terrible video . Don't focus on wilcock
@kfirm4353
@kfirm4353 2 ай бұрын
very lazy. the red cloak taps twice on the red floor, sidney polak's character taps twice on the red pool table (it's him). where the rainbow ends? well.. infra-red. where the rainbow visibly ends there's infra-red, it's hidden from the eye but it's there.
@Sleepdriver1984
@Sleepdriver1984 2 ай бұрын
You're just lazy, dude
@hammeredout8146
@hammeredout8146 2 ай бұрын
Yes, you have demonstrated how tireless and driven you are with a four word comment.
@Sleepdriver1984
@Sleepdriver1984 2 ай бұрын
@@hammeredout8146 I don't need to demonstrate anything to you, people denying 2+2's have a superficial approach to art fruition, that's it. Debunking _some_ conspiracy theories doesn't mean that every one is unfounded, denying the rainbow lens' presence in EWS and even Kubrick's deliberate choice of locations, props and names is disrespectful towards him and his confirmed OCD (in good and in bad)
@Peasant_in_a_tree
@Peasant_in_a_tree 2 ай бұрын
This is the worst eyes wide shut video i have ever seen. Dont waste your time.
@Tyln93
@Tyln93 2 ай бұрын
Jeffrey Epstein and Eyes Wide Shut Movie!!! (1999) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qt2Hp5ZovpO5mHU.html Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell featuring from the beggining of the scene till Alice goes to the toilet!!! Way toooooooo coincidential ain't it!!!
@luisangulo5332
@luisangulo5332 2 ай бұрын
Will you eventually do an analysis on the other theories you mentioned?
@metallampman
@metallampman 2 ай бұрын
Kubrick had alternating moments of brilliance and insanity .. what he produces does NOT have to make sense or have a hidden theme.. and looking for one is as futile as him trying to produce one remember clockwork orange,, mental illness on display HIS like eastwood outlaw josie wales great movie but he did the great white hunter too which should have been burned before release or play misty for me JUNK
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