they never hit for me even when i dont flare at all to try and get hit so i can do some cinematic crash land or wtv

Your afternburner is also a big "look at me" thing for MANPADs

@@Bullhead_JW mil power doesnt use afterburner

Preflare (1-2 flares per second through all the attack when you are within 3 miles from the supposed MANPADs) and fly >650 knots all the time. Egress with a slight climb doing a slight turn from the target. Flare extra, change egress direction without loosing too much speed and dive back to the ground if you see MANPADs being fired at you. This way missile will need to change the lead, loose more energy and more likely to eat flares. I've practiced this a lot in the editor in the Hornet as it's much slower thus more difficult, and so far so good.

If it's an SA-24 then yeah, welcome to modern MANPADS.

If you are pre-flaring (1-2 flares each second) and keeping >650 knots through all attack you are going to be fine. Without pre-flaring with a burner on and a rear hemisphere exposed you are asking to be shot down by some random dude with a rocket pipe. Flaring after MANPADs launch is not that effective unless you roll covering your exhaust from a missile POV. Rolling is a valid tactics for a10c since it's slow and has hundreds of flares onboard and it's engines are rather masked by the frame if you egress by 60-90 degrees from the target. Multirole fighters on the other hand must be very fast as they don't have these amounts flares and the engine heat is much higher even in mil power.

lol

Oof. That was definitely a rude awakening when I started playing BMS!

@@andreww7564 Yep, it is quite easy to over-G the F-16, even in CAT-III. Real-world pulls in pop-up are 5.0G~ vertical pull, 3.0G~ pull to the run-in and 5.0G~ escape pull. It's a bit easier if you can just yank 8.0G out.