F 16 vs MiG 29 - Which would win?

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F-16 vs MiG 29 - Which would win?
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F-16 vs MiG 29 - Which would win?
F-16 and MiG-29 were designed in order to achieve different goals. F-16 was designed to be a cost effective, light multirole jet that could be a support to more superior F-15 Eagle. Whereas, the MiG-29 is a typical air-superiority fighter jet. For MiG-29 designers range and avionics were not as crucial as powerful engines, high altitude flights, rate of climb, speed and the ability to take off from really shabby runways. We thought it would be interesting to compare these two legendary fighter jets, and determine which would most likely win in a hypothetical dogfight in this video.
1. Specifications
Let’s have a look at some specs first.
F-16 was first introduced in 1978. 4,600 F-16's have been built so far with per unit cost of $ 35 m. Operated by crew of 1 the Aircraft’s empty weight is 18,900 lb, and maximum take-off weight is 42,300 pounds. The jet is powered by a single engine producing 28,600 pounds of thrust. With maximum range of 2,620 miles, the aircraft can gain top speed of 1,320 mph. The fighter jet comes with 9 Hardpoints in addition to a 20 mm rotary cannon. The combat radius of the aircraft is 340 miles.
On the other hand, MIG 29 was first rolled out in 1982. Around 1600 MIG 29s are being operated by Air Force and other countries. At present per-unit cost of the latest variant is around $23.7M. Operated by a crew of 1, the aircraft comes in at weight of 24,250 lb with maximum take-off weight around 44,100 pounds. The Jet is powered by 2 turbofan engines generating 36,684 pounds of thrust combined. With maximum range of 888 miles, the jet can reach at top speed of 1,490 mph. The fighter jet is fitted with 7 Hardpoints in addition to a 30 mm cannon. The combat radius of the aircraft is 441 miles.
2. Maneuverability
The most important factor in deciding a dogfight is maneuverability; the maximum rate and radius of turn. To maximize its maneuverability F-16 was intentionally designed to be aerodynamically unstable…
In contrast, MiG-29 has superior turning rates and super maneuverability. This was achieved with advanced aerodynamics. The tail of MiG-29 is positioned to take advantage of the four vortices by the wing and fuselage….
3. Power & Speed
F16 is powered by single General Electric F110-GE-129 turbofans engine, which produces 28,600 pounds of thrust. The aircraft can fly at top speed of Mach 2…
On the other hand, a major driver of the MiG 29 performance is its 2 afterburning turbofan engines generating around 36,684 pounds of thrust….
4. Radar & Avionics
F-16 is equipped with latest APG-68 radar which enables all-weather targeting with high resolution detection and imaging. The latest variant is fitted with glass cockpit, upgraded mission computer…
Whereas, MIG 29 is equipped with latest radar which is equivalent of F 16s APG-68 with similar range and air-to-ground modes. All variants of MiG-29 included an optical locator system mounted on top of the nose…
5. Firepower
The F-16 has 9 hard points and can be armed with a range of air-to-air missiles, including Aim-9 Side winder, Magic II, aim-7, Sky Flash and aim-120. The high off bore sight, infrared Air to air missiles such as aim-9X, Python IV, aim-132 and IRIS-T can also be fitted. The aircraft also supports the integration a range of AGM anti-ship missiles and AGM-65 Maverick air-to-ground tactical missile…
On the other hand, The MiG-29 fighter is equipped with seven external weapon hardpoints. The aircraft can carry up to 2 R-27 air-to-air medium-range missiles, 6 R-73 and R-60 air-to-air short range missiles, 4 pods of S-5, S-8, S-24..
Conclusion
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@Grid88 4 жыл бұрын

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@heathfitzgerald363 3 жыл бұрын

Both jets are beautiful. I flew the F-16 for 8 years. It comes down to the pilot skill to whichever one wins

@Kai-xs8ol 2 жыл бұрын

I flew f22

@bluerisk 2 жыл бұрын

I guess the surrounding too: The US has mastered the warfare in a network with other branches, while we witness on the other hand how the Russian branches fail miserably to coordinate their efforts. Also communication and intel is crucial for the success of a mission. A one to one situation, more so a dogfight, has become a rarity in modern aerial warfare. Lastly things like logistics and maintenance.

@chewie3977 2 жыл бұрын

I flew the space shuttle

@rm9592 2 жыл бұрын

Not joking, but i really flew mig 29.

@jamiermathlin 2 жыл бұрын

respect !

@rs28sarmaticbm75 3 жыл бұрын

Poland: *just chilling with both*

@ma.s2386 3 жыл бұрын

Lol, we too from Egypt

@irongamingro2011 3 жыл бұрын

Romania too

@MS-oe2wr 3 жыл бұрын

Me too in Poland

@rs28sarmaticbm75 3 жыл бұрын

Oh no, they're attacking again...

@Elias-xy9kc 3 жыл бұрын

Irongaming RO not yet, Romania didn’t decide yet wether they’ll be purchasing the F-16 or the Saab-jas39 gripen NG, and the COVID-19 has put this sale silent! And Romania has the MiG-21bis, not the MiG-29! Greetings from Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦😁✋

@IMAN7THRYLOS 3 жыл бұрын

When Germany was unified, the West German pilots with their Tornados and the East German pilots with their Mig-29s performed joined exercises and mock dogfights. The East German pilots were claiming that they had scored more kills. The West German wouldn't accept these claims. As it turned out to be, the Mig-29 was armed with the short range R-73 Archer short range missile which could kill at a 40 degree angle. This missile had thrust vectoring capabilities. The Germans dissected this missile and later came up with the IRIS-T missile. The point of the story is, that the strength of the platform depends on the strength of the weapons.

@Lost_Hwasal 2 жыл бұрын

Strength and range.

@flipadavis 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, radar and missile platforms are very important. But the Tornado is a cold war era long range interceptor designed to catch and kill incoming bombers. It makes a terrible air superiority fighter since that isn't what it is. The Tornado is more like a slower MiG-25 Foxbat. Even if it had the best state of the art radar and missile systems it would still get waxed in a close fight if the pilots are remotely similar in skill which is what you are describing. The Tornado obviously has a chance if it has superior radar and better BVR missile systems since it then wouldn't likely come to a close engagement.

@god-son-love Жыл бұрын

great answer!

@skparadise3382 Жыл бұрын

@@flipadavis the problem is that it wasn't just west Germans that experienced this. The Americans trained in Germany regularly due to Germany having MiG-29s. And the east German MiG-29 pilots regularly won against F-16 and F-18s

@franz9573 Жыл бұрын

@@skparadise3382 Erzähl deine Märchen vielleicht in Sachsen aber nicht hier, wer schon ein Hakenkreuz als Avatar hat und eine russische Flagge als Hintergrund, den kann man nur als geistig verwirrt bezeichnen: In english: Tell your fairy tales maybe in Saxony but not here, who already has a swastika as avatar and a Russian flag as background, you can only be considered mentally retarded

@farshidbazyar6626 3 жыл бұрын

Pilot skill plays the most important role in a confrontation.

@epicspaces9434 2 жыл бұрын

not really, they will both turn and pull up hard, that's all.

@josephdurso5894 Жыл бұрын

That's beside the point. We're comparing aircraft here, so that assumes pilots of equal skill.

@robpayne3138 4 жыл бұрын

The pilot having the best day probably wins...

@rupammedhi9943 4 жыл бұрын

At the end of day, the best pilot will be victorious..

@dataman6744 4 жыл бұрын

Assume the pilots are equally skilled then. When you compare two or more items the assumption is always that all the other factors are held constant, so this talk of pilot skills doesn't come into play

@kumarbiradar8704 4 жыл бұрын

It depends on pilot mindset and game how he handles and attacks

@dataman6744 4 жыл бұрын

the Russians have moved it up a notch with Mig35, its a beast!!

@azerbaycanturkiyecr4760 4 жыл бұрын

@@dataman6744 f16 viper is better than mig35

@deltacharlieromeo8252 4 жыл бұрын

It is my first time to see an unbiased comparison between a Russian and an American war machine. Thank God this page exists.

@nstvm82 4 жыл бұрын

@@drewt9829 hahahahahaha next joke please

@nstvm82 4 жыл бұрын

@@drewt9829 how young is too young? Lmao

@nstvm82 4 жыл бұрын

@@drewt9829 well, you are wrong again. The Americans couldn't put together the disassembled aircraft after belenko defected. After the protest being lodged by the soviets , it's shipped back to USSR in a box. BTW if it's primitive , no americans missiles could take it out ever. Guess you remember the much hyped U2 was taken out by the primitive russians. So please don't make unnecessary comparisons , it gives you embarrassments. Also don't up chuck the blatant lies , it won't make you a winner.

@nstvm82 4 жыл бұрын

@@drewt9829 ....My oh My! Americans never tried to take the piss outta Russians. Were you absent when there's a history class at school? And if you don't know why , I will enlighten you kid: there's this thing called MAD. The Russians developed the world's most powerful hydrogen bomb ever; the name is 'Tsar Bomba'. They have the most powerful ICBM as well: 'Satan ' , cute name indeed, isn't it? They have the Father of all bombs as well (FOAB). No nuclear submarine was ever built anywhere on planet earth other than Soviet Union : 'Akula'. The soviets invented laser and are way too advanced than the flaunting yanks in laser weapon technology. Kiddo, this is a minimum text area for me to educate if I go for every other modern marvels originated in the Soviet Union by the primitive Russians. Better you understand that, there will be no advanced US of A if they dare to mess with the primitive Russians. Needless to say, Russia will cease to exist as well. Bottom line: Don't ever think that you are on the top of the pyramid and better than the others. You're just as unique as everyone else.

@CedoCCCC123 4 жыл бұрын

Drew T yes, and in rocket technics are the russian 10 years more modern then the us rockets..! The us Airplanes are really in deferent things better, but the russian air defense ist also many ways better then the us..! If we look the tanks, there are the Russian T14 better than the Abrams..! So both sides have things where they are better and bader..! 😀 i hope they never Fight together, because the whole Planet we can Smoke after this war..! 😅

@_AdventureClub_ 2 жыл бұрын

Funny coming here just as Poland will handle their MIG29 to Ukraine so that they will receive F16's in exchange.

@vulturedroid9804 2 жыл бұрын

Cancelled now

@user-yh7zc9ke4s 2 жыл бұрын

@@vulturedroid9804 they are now US property and poles got F16's in exchange. But US doesn't want to give the Mig's to Ukraine.

@Jerrynyc424 Жыл бұрын

@@vulturedroid9804 wrong lol

@iantonnies2869 11 ай бұрын

@@vulturedroid9804😢f

@iantonnies2869 11 ай бұрын

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@drianmortiz9375 3 жыл бұрын

Nice video and excellent analysis host, it is not a one sided and fair enough in my own point of view, i am really thankful that i found this wonderful channel, thank you for sharing and more power.

@Grid88 3 жыл бұрын

Much appreciated!

@tankeriv 4 жыл бұрын

I personally think these two planes are the most equal west vs east matchup possible. It will depend on the pilot skills, situation and tactical usage of the plane that will decide the outcome. The Polish airforce has had the posibillity to test them against each other and they stated that when the pilots where equally good in a dogfight the Mig29 wins. But at long distance engagements they had the better options available on the F-16. But that's a no-brainer since Poland has left the Poland/Russia weapons deal and no longer receives the best and latest options.

@chewbaccassecretlover1244 2 жыл бұрын

Best radar and rockets

@alastair9446 2 жыл бұрын

But the F-16 and Mig-29 is multi-role, so in hitting grounds targets I would they the F-16 is better.

@tankeriv 2 жыл бұрын

@@alastair9446 I hate to be wrong. But I guess I am wrong here. And you are right. So yeah indeed the F16 would be better at attacking ground targets indeed. So all-round the F16 would win as you say. 🙂

@brianbelton3605 2 жыл бұрын

Larry David also said the "wheel" as an invention.. . sucked. He also said Coffee would fail, as a drink.. . and, also said electric cars (or radios?) would fail! Did Larry David say to bet on Rushher? Hmmmm and NASA can't go to the moon. Its too far.. . . Too Far ! GO UKRAINE! Lets all push and support The Ukraine

@hurmur9528 2 жыл бұрын

Dogfights are not that common in real life I would gather. It would probably be other factors that are much more important.

@nstvm82 4 жыл бұрын

Unbiased professional analysis ever

@fahimahmed3732 2 жыл бұрын

lol you got an heart haha

@vermas4654 3 жыл бұрын

While I don't want to actually say one of them is the better jet.... I like the look of the Mig 29 more, it just screams "I'm dangerous".

@dinpuiapuia2285 2 жыл бұрын

But f16 looks sleek n sexier 😁

@vermas4654 2 жыл бұрын

@@dinpuiapuia2285 let's agree to disagree

@erictayet Жыл бұрын

I grew up with these fighter jets. In simulators, if you can squeeze out some AMRAAMs early, F-16 can win. But once you're close, MIG-29 has better turning radius so F-16 has to rely on the Sidewinder's off-bore targeting. That said, the MIG-29's Archer is deadly because of the IRST. When dogfighting, it's all about pilot skills.

@lupyks3615 4 жыл бұрын

The person that will win would be the guy staying in a bunker

@lupyks3615 4 жыл бұрын

@John James yup

@randomuser5443 4 жыл бұрын

This comment aged like a small dog growing into the best lap warmer

@MrROOK1123 4 жыл бұрын

But will he ready win?

@lupyks3615 3 жыл бұрын

Wtf is happening

@lupyks3615 3 жыл бұрын

@Sal why ?

@sotirismiaris421 4 жыл бұрын

First video Two beautiful fighters👍

@abdulrahmandarwish2962 3 жыл бұрын

yes

@acr08807 2 жыл бұрын

F-16s have Link 16. That's a huge advantage.

@montyhale1899 3 жыл бұрын

The intro song is the perfect balance of epic and campy, love it

@papercutpostman1660 3 жыл бұрын

The pilot who drank the least would probably win

@sequoiahughes8536 3 жыл бұрын

And trained the most.

@wdaswwqads 3 жыл бұрын

Little did you know a shot of vodka makes a slav better in everything.

@myusername3689 3 жыл бұрын

@@wdaswwqads That reminds me of Jackie Chan: Drunken master

@juancarrero1119 3 жыл бұрын

Very good vodka+✈=💥=👌now i can have a 🍺or🍺🍺😅.

@romic2141 2 жыл бұрын

The pilot that's not overweight would probably win

@sammomin8115 3 жыл бұрын

The only way to know who is better is a paintball fight, so no one gets hurt.

@Mike-01234 Жыл бұрын

Just saw interview a USAF pilot who has 2000 hours the Mig-29 in Germany he said the F-16 can maintain higher speeds in 9G radius turning.

@DimbweMazala Жыл бұрын

Very good and very objective analysis.

@Weisswurstesser 4 жыл бұрын

The one who hits first.

@renzovergara3436 3 жыл бұрын

well you aint wrong tho...

@gospodinkavurma6523 4 жыл бұрын

Mikoyan❤️🇷🇺

@mantastic4292 3 жыл бұрын

He’s Armenian!!!!

@pranaygurnule5666 3 жыл бұрын

@@mantastic4292 Lmao

@michaelovrutsky5927 3 жыл бұрын

Half Armenian and half Jewish . Mikoyan and Gurevich.

@EbluestarE 2 жыл бұрын

As a North American, Ive ALWAYS respected the Reds’ aerospace engineering. They make some beautiful planes too - especially the su27

@donjennings9034 2 жыл бұрын

They're always a couple steps behind us. And in the case of the F-15, many steps behind.

@Lou-ut4jw Жыл бұрын

As a aerospace engineer I believe US always has the edge over the Red. Always.

@WiliiamNoTell 4 жыл бұрын

Both are formidable aircraft. I agree with a lot of the other comments. Which is the better of the two pilots probably wins!

@Dr.Westside 4 жыл бұрын

There's been 4,600 f-16s built and sold globally . Only 1600 MiG-29s . The F-16 is one of the most successful fighters ever made for a reason .

@jaimehmejia Жыл бұрын

Is a fact F16. Cost/ profit

@michaelpage7691 3 жыл бұрын

Please put the comparison data side by side. It's a lot easier with the visual than vocal. Thanks.👍🏻🇦🇺😁

@Grid88 3 жыл бұрын

Noted!

@rafalwolny7736 3 жыл бұрын

MIG 29 is a absolute ! I saw take off at Ostrava Nato Days. It was incredible !

@sterben728 3 жыл бұрын

yes it is but the F16 wasn't designed to fight it !

@samuelsangliankhuma3863 3 жыл бұрын

@@sterben728 nobody talks about f16 here

@keithfillinger3182 3 жыл бұрын

@@sterben728 I am not saying the F16 is better. However, a lot of people believe a Mig 29 would easily defeat an F18. I watched a channel on KZfaq called Ready Room. A former US Navy pilot turned consultant uses a Go Pro to video mock dogfights with Royal Malaysian Air Force. He beat a Mig 29 and SU 30 with an F18. He also said he lost some dogfights to those planes. Anyway, that pilot said a Mig 29 was really easy to spot due to its visible exhaust.

@elitewavez4768 2 жыл бұрын

The f15 took mig 29 and never lost I'm sure a f16 can do it even better

@elitewavez4768 2 жыл бұрын

F16 fires missile 1st = wins

@valshalscott 4 жыл бұрын

Both fighter Jet's are good. But everything depends on Pilot skill.........simply don't waste your time with arguing each other's. Thank you.

@azerbaycanturkiyecr4760 4 жыл бұрын

F16 ja much better than mig29! Zur f16 Block 70 is better than mig35

@bfebrian 3 жыл бұрын

give valentino rossi a tricycle, let see if he can out race me with my yamaha motor bike

@damomguy2801 3 жыл бұрын

Finally someone neutral

@Daniel-jg8ff 3 жыл бұрын

@@azerbaycanturkiyecr4760 Based on what?

@RD-gt3ts 3 жыл бұрын

@Oggy what happened bro didnt get enough piss to drink today??

@amerashraf7038 4 жыл бұрын

Brilliant Comparison :)

@anomalyp8584 2 жыл бұрын

Both are iconic! Just like the spitfire and the messerschmidt

@kn0wmore126 Ай бұрын

Being able to take off from really shabby runways is an advantage that shouldn't be underestimated.

@mohammadrahat8824 4 жыл бұрын

Bangladesh air force having 16 mig 29 Love from Bangladesh ❤

@abidhasan5721 3 жыл бұрын

এসব কই পাও রে ভাই? মাত্র ৮ টা আছে। 😑 কমেন্ট ডিলিট কর।

@mohammadrahat8824 3 жыл бұрын

@@abidhasan5721 vi samne 8 ta ase piche kota ase ta janen?

@ankushsahu2647 3 жыл бұрын

Lots of love from india my brother❤❤👍

@mohammadrahat8824 3 жыл бұрын

@@ankushsahu2647 love from Bangladesh too ❤ Long live Bangladesh India Friendship 💙❤

@ohid1262 3 жыл бұрын

Vai amra Jani 8ta ache . 16ta order hoycilo. Ashcilo 8ta . Baki 8ta ex BNP government batil korcilo . Ajonno r asheny

@Viper-dn8ix 3 жыл бұрын

An interesting thing I've read is that the MiG-29 has a godly turn radius for the first turn. After that it seems to fall off, whereas the F-16 can sustain a 9G turn for a much longer time. Also I think the test pilots said that the F-16 was able to perform vertical maneuvers better, though I could have misread that. Another thing that goes beyond simply fighter to fighter is command and control. I think the US/NATO AWACS far outclasses the Russian system (this is unfounded and based on anecdote however, so please search for yourself), and would thus allow U.S./NATO forces to engage more easily. I'm no analyst, but these fighters seem so evenly matched it would solely come down to fighter pilot skill in a dogfight. God I hope it never comes to that though.

@spartanx9293 3 жыл бұрын

Really a sustained 9g turn is all that matters after 9 g's human being start having issues notably they tend to be knocked out

@sayfolman7752 2 жыл бұрын

The most important part in every aircraft is pilot because if pilot suck no matter how advance your aircraft it useless just like certain country i know new aircraft on mission to attack isis base but miss fired and hit their own soldier but try to hide it from local media thank god someone record it using facebook live when trying to save miss fire victim i think 2 died 8 wounding in that accident

@lennartgosman3640 2 жыл бұрын

We getting there...

@fritslyneborg Жыл бұрын

I am from the future, and we are almost there!

@justinsimmonds5674 4 ай бұрын

Very interesting video. These two jets are pretty competitive when the facts are presented. I think at the end of the day the real question is which pilot has better skill?

@josephgriggs6739 2 жыл бұрын

Both machines are technological marvels and each is more than capable. I think the presenter did a great job of reaching his conclusions and I agree.

@devrajdevarjunisthebestalw8932 4 жыл бұрын

Mig -29 beast of world fighter jet

@jcadventure5632 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah all of Iraq mig 29 during operation desert storm destroyed by aging f15e hahaha all of them without lost of single f15e

@mehrdadrastegar2091 4 жыл бұрын

Hahahahahahaha🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂

@azerbaycanturkiyecr4760 4 жыл бұрын

The block 50 f16 win easy ! The Block 70 f16 ist better than mig35

@philanthropist6969 4 жыл бұрын

F-22 is the best.that is why usa dont sell f-22

@azerbaycanturkiyecr4760 4 жыл бұрын

@@philanthropist6969 are you stupid? The f16 Block 50 fuck mig29 easy !!! The raptor f22 fuck all russia hahahaha 🤣🤣🤣

@Dubanx 4 жыл бұрын

In BVR (long range) the F16 would have a huge advantage due to their superior missiles. They have AIM-120Cs, which have a 2 way data-link and onboard radar. As a result it can guide a missile to the target without giving away that it launched a missile, and the missile will continue to track to the target's last known location and kill them even if the F16 has to turn cold (away). Whereas an R-27ER depends on the MiG's radar to find its target. The F-16 will know exactly when the ER is launched, and the missile will go stupid if the Mig-29 is forced to retreat. The R-77-1 has capabilities much closer to that of the AIM-120c, but sacrifices range/energy to do so. In a guns only dogfight it's very close. Germany still operates MiG-29s from the pre-cold war era and has done a number of training exercises with American F16s. Those cooperative dogfight training exercises show a close range battle between the two can go either way. It almost always comes down to user skill, but 90% of the time battles end long before gun range.

@gundjaloneko5731 2 жыл бұрын

That depends on terrain features. )))))))

@jfm.d5180 2 жыл бұрын

This is the answer. Additionally, closer range Fox 2 engagements win with 9Xs and off-boresight. I'm aware that the Archer exists, but I think the 9X performs better in real world testing

@tetraxis3011 2 жыл бұрын

If you compare a Mig29 A to An F16 block 52 then yes. but compare it to a Mig 29 m then they are equal

@sickcunthunter Жыл бұрын

The MiG-29 Can be outfitted with R-77s, which have a far superior range to the AIM-120, but who knows.

@BA-jc7nq Жыл бұрын

didn't 1 of those missiles just miss a "Chinese" balloon the size of 3 school buses?

@roughneck371 3 жыл бұрын

These 2 planes have faced each other before in Yugoslavia 1999 twice. In both encounters the F16 won. It still doesn't tell which plane is better though as NATO had better situational awareness back then and both kills were BVR.

@Shulcyo 2 жыл бұрын

Lol Serbian MiG29 at the time were literally falling apart. Without proper maintenance and were going 1 against group of 50 enemy aircrafts. Some of them didnt even have working electronics.

@bryjb10 2 жыл бұрын

@@Shulcyo and how would you know this ?

@tetraxis3011 2 жыл бұрын

@@bryjb10 Its public information. And the casualties are contested. Serbia claims it downed 3 F16, 2 F15 and 1 F117. Considering how the west lies about their casualties, stating ridiculously low nimbers or none at all, imma trust the serbs on this one(Exepting the Aerial shootdown of the F117).

@Sveta7 2 жыл бұрын

@@bryjb10 Because it makes sense, Yugoslavia was falling apart and was in heavy sanctions so there were more important things than mig 29 maintenance, apart from that pilots themselves admitted it in a documentary "kako se vodio rat", they were even using Motorola walkie-talkies to communicate...

@LuckyBird551 3 жыл бұрын

The pilot that has more experience and training, and with a ground crew that has given the best maintenance to the aircraft he is piloting, will win.

@sterben728 3 жыл бұрын

It will always come down to pilot skill and knowledge of their aircraft's capabilities and limitations. However the F16 was never designed to fight the Mig29 in a dogfight, what's the point, it was never going to happen.

@Ahmed-cn6hj 3 жыл бұрын

@@sterben728 yeah, the f16 is nothing compared to the mig29, hell even I took down 3 f16cs in a mig21bis

@AGC2021 3 жыл бұрын

My country (Romania) had Mig29's a while ago, but the Russians refused to sell us spare parts anymore, so we had to buy used F16's from other countries. My dad flew on the modernized Mig29 Sniper, and now, at the end of his career, is flying on F16 bought from Portugal. He's saying that his Mig was better, even though he wasn't a comunist...

@florianthomas7852 3 жыл бұрын

Russkie would sell you spare parts, but you have to pay in real currency and not oranges.

@thathologuy8299 3 жыл бұрын

We have new F16s that are made to go toe-to-toe with modern Russian aircraft. It's the F-16 Block 70

@AGC2021 3 жыл бұрын

@@florianthomas7852 My country is not in Southern Europe, Africa, Asia or South America, therefore the climate doesn't allow growing orage trees or any other tropical or subtropical plants. Reading a book at least from time to time might help you on long term, you know...

@florianthomas7852 3 жыл бұрын

@@AGC2021 Did I hurt your proud romanian feelings? I actually read this book here "Britain's 'Political Romance' with Romania in the 1970s" where you can read about Ceausescus generals interest in the british jets, they tried to sign a Memorandum of understanding on the purchase of brandnew Hawker Siddeley Harrier jets. However instead of paying the brits in hard currency like british pound or USD, the romanian government wanted to make an exchange in the delivery of fruits, amongst them were oranges. Pahahahaha.

@AGC2021 3 жыл бұрын

@@florianthomas7852 I doubt this happened, nobody's stupid enough to buy oranges (since we can't produce them) in order to trade them for something else - why spending money on them instead of spending on the object of interest? If that book exists, it must be full of bullshit. Anyway, after Ceausescu's visit in UK in the 70's, we started to make british BAC 1-11 passanger jets at Brasov, this is the historical fact. Another historical fact: the russians refused to sell us spare parts for Mig29 as a revenge, because we modernized the communication, navigation and armament systems of the old 110 Mig21 fighters we had, in partnership with Elbit (a company from Israel), and not with them. And how do you think we bought the F-16s we have today, with papaya and avocado? :))

@johnchenky 4 жыл бұрын

KZfaq warriors never lost so far! They fight to death on KZfaq!

@mkhan78627 3 жыл бұрын

Funny thing is that the fuckers are immortal. Some times they just fade away.

@observerrecord2499 3 жыл бұрын

@@mkhan78627 True, irrespective of what the truth is and what the actual scenario is. These people will fight on KZfaq.

@rogueshadow4960 3 жыл бұрын

Is it just me or are both these jets some of the best looking fighters in the world

@chucktowne 3 жыл бұрын

Gorgeous designs on both.

@dongkoys6439 Жыл бұрын

Its not the plane who wins.. It's the pilot ability to maneuver and that's how it is

@MrDyhard 4 жыл бұрын

The fact is that we don’t know the capability of these airplanes - military secrets. So we don’t really which airplane has the edge.

@abdulrahmanshahzad2552 4 жыл бұрын

Indeed

@gauravdey4163 4 жыл бұрын

@@joemen3332 Well Mig29 has been upgraded a lot

@MrDyhard 3 жыл бұрын

joe men Germany knows everything about Mig 29’s built in the 1980’s - 40 years ago. The systems and capabilities on a modern day Mig 29, upgraded over and over would be vastly different.

@nanoatic 3 жыл бұрын

yeah they re must be hiding santa in the back of the cockpit seat #"military secrets"

@nightofthunder5509 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly only the downgraded export 29s have seen combat until the Russian AF cutting edge ones ones V the USAF cutting edge F16s we wont really know

@maximus8746 4 жыл бұрын

it mostly depends on the pilot, but if we look at it objectivelly it really depends: if we compare these planes we have to compare the original version cause both the mig and f-16 have recieved many upgrades with all the years. overall the mig has a slight advantage over hte f16 in many areas due to it being a twin enine plane sucha as climb rate speed and load but again the diferences are so small it deeply depends on the pilot more than the plane itself

@Wartredis 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah thats Why russians wins we have Best pilots ans cosmonavts ever)

@KatyushaWarThunder 3 жыл бұрын

Alexander Kilochek sure your pilots are good but your politics are worse

@IN54ANE 2 жыл бұрын

@@Wartredis your pilots getting exposed in ukraine

@MicroageHD 2 жыл бұрын

There is much more to this too.. Failure rates, maintenance time, complexity of spare parts production and installation etc...

@davout5775 2 жыл бұрын

Nah you can't compare insignificant specs like climb rate and speed. These do no matter as missiles are faster than jets. The better avionics win all the time

@MoskusMoskiferus1611 3 жыл бұрын

Both have Their Own Style, I Respect Both Aircraft Designs

@baerenfelser 3 жыл бұрын

Personally,both are super but the key issue would be the tactical situation,how the fight starts determines the result because determines the initial advantage.Because that changes,the discussion is academical in my humble opinion

@woodman159 3 жыл бұрын

It all depends on how well the pilot was trained and how much air time he has been able to achieve

@mitropoulosilias 3 жыл бұрын

or how many intercept a pilot have hahah

@cortney3280 Жыл бұрын

Russian pilots on average have a few minutes of airtime while Americana are afew days

@BufanMuayThai 8 ай бұрын

It settles it then… F16 FTW

@positivepatriot1475 3 жыл бұрын

I personally prefer the Mig-29, that's one sexy plane.

@slimantarraf1576 3 жыл бұрын

F-35 is more tempting than mig 29

@positivepatriot1475 3 жыл бұрын

@@slimantarraf1576 If I was choosing the new generation of fighter it would be a close tie between the F22 and the SU-57. And only because I like the larger width of the Su-57

@positivepatriot1475 3 жыл бұрын

@God Love That is true to a degree. If you buy a Russian export plane, they intentionally downgrade the avionics and systems so it won't be as good as the ones they keep for themselves. So the only good Russian fighter is an actual Russian fighter.

@KPX-nl4nt 3 жыл бұрын

Russia only has a tiny handful of prototype SU-57s and obviously they aren’t even in front line service. It’s stealth characteristics are poor compared to the F-22. Russia is for more concerned with building low rate prototype aircraft that look aggressive but never had any intention of going into full scale production.

@KPX-nl4nt 3 жыл бұрын

The F-16 Viper is FAR sexier and more capable than the MiG-29. Of course, I’m a little biased since I’m an F-16 Crew Chief.

@stankygeorge 3 жыл бұрын

Both are awesome machines! Who would win, well, that will depend on the pilot and luck!

@Anjudevi-ql3bf 3 жыл бұрын

Nice video

@spinebuster9490 4 жыл бұрын

MIG 29 💪💪💪

@richardcocks7941 4 жыл бұрын

lmao@urRussiantrash "USAF F-15C vs. IRAF MiG-29 The first air-air kills of the war occurred when two USAF F-15Cs shot down two Iraqi MiG-29s.[2] " en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_engagements_of_the_Gulf_War#USAF_F-15C_vs._IRAF_MiG-21s

@n1kko831 4 жыл бұрын

@@richardcocks7941 Don't you think that the pilot’s skills will decide who will win in the battle?

@richardcocks7941 4 жыл бұрын

NIKKO If you have a trained pilot versus another trained pilot, you could be the Red Baron and it still wouldn’t make a lick of difference if he is in a biplane. Similar, if you have a multi role fighter against an air superiority fighter. That isn’t the point though. The point is F 16 versus MiG 29, as I posted the statistics of the gulf war above.... since none were shot down, versus MiG 23s/21s and 29s which suffered multiple casualties we can already determine what plane is likely better. If they are completely equal, either the USA has such legendary training that automatically turn Joe Shmoe into an air God....or the other pilots are smoking weed and sipping a .40 before they get in their planes....that trained pilots versus trained pilots on an even platform would at least have somewhat of a balance but there is zero.

@n1kko831 4 жыл бұрын

@@joemen3332 F-16 and MIG-29 are almost identical, the MIG-29 has a 30 mm machine gun and good maneuverability, have you ever watched a parade with MIG-29 at least once? In the air battle MIG-29 in the hands of a good pilot will be able to dodge the F-16 missiles and sit on his tail and just because of the 30 mm machine gun or missiles can destroy the F-16. But again, it all depends on small factors such as: weather, visibility, armament of the aircraft, etc.

@purushothamreddyp4591 4 жыл бұрын

@@richardcocks7941 true because pilots are Americans. Try ur luck with israel or indian pilots

@zoherben4851 4 жыл бұрын

Great video bro! Can you put the power in HP or Watts please? Thanks, love from Spain.

@elspudo2407 3 жыл бұрын

Horsepower and kilowatts are not how you measure thrust. Thrust is normally measured in Kilonewtons, pound-force or kilogram-force. (1 Kn = 102 kg-f = 225 lb-f)

@georgeshelton5101 2 жыл бұрын

The Lockheed/Martin F-22 Raptor would eat all of their lunches!

@AJdet-2 Жыл бұрын

If comrade Biletnikoff does not have any vodka with breakfast, this is a very close duel. Could go either way

@edieisjune 4 жыл бұрын

It’ll never see a one on one. Too many birds flying at the same time.

@robbertvanrooijen4163 2 жыл бұрын

They did. In 1999 during the Bosnia-Herzegovina war. The F16 won

@Value_Pilgrim 4 жыл бұрын

MiG 29

@pukinmedved5676 26 күн бұрын

A study found F-16 has a 92:13 kill/loss ratio, with MiG 29 having a 16:28 kill/loss ratio.

@evilzzzability Жыл бұрын

Let's face it, no movie fighter jet confrontation was ever settled BVR.

@waltersalazar4284 3 жыл бұрын

I would say that the training and experience of the pilots is an important factor for victory.

@chichopepelopez 4 жыл бұрын

F-16 : 76 wins and 1 loss. MIG-29 : 6 wins and 20 losses. The last air to air combat involving MIG-29 and a US jet fighter was in 1999 ,when one F-15 shot down two MIG-29's with AMRAAM missiles

@cira90g 4 жыл бұрын

That 1999 when f 117 shot down whit S 125?

@chichopepelopez 4 жыл бұрын

@@cira90g That wasn't air to air combat and it was pure luck and underestimating by NATO.

@lazarjovanovic4388 4 жыл бұрын

@@chichopepelopez then why did a b2 also get deatroyed? Its not luck again

@himvas2005 Жыл бұрын

Victories against weak opponents and under trained pilots.

@jaskiratsinghnagra1441 3 жыл бұрын

Mig 29 UPG... All the way!

@ramirezyoutubeyt2373 3 жыл бұрын

I know YOU are a iraninan But i know that Im a real Fighter pilot I fly an F15 I tried to compare the f16 and Mig 29 And the f16 would win

@royalbgaming3496 2 жыл бұрын

@grid do you have a way to mail you or discord server as I've got some questions about jets for a game I'm helping test

@BrothersKeeper44 3 жыл бұрын

I must admit, the MIG is damn sexy. You can't compare the 2 planes. An F15 would be the proper opponent against an MIG 29. The F16 doesn't stand a chance

@ghostmofo5829 2 жыл бұрын

Wrong comrad.

@khanrafi2564 3 жыл бұрын

you should also Compare F-16 block 72 and Mig-35

@smifff 2 жыл бұрын

Seems like Ghost Of Kiev is doing pretty good with mig 29

@hottube135 3 жыл бұрын

Unbiased review well done but i like the beautifully designed F16 it looks awesome 👍

@sharvan456 3 жыл бұрын

Mig-29 all day everyday, due to it's superior manuverability and combat capabilities!

@MrPatch25 2 жыл бұрын

Pilot

@detomasopantera1966 4 жыл бұрын

Both beautiful capable and deadly. I think it would depend on the pilot.

@dasmadhavan 3 жыл бұрын

Its all about the pilot

@sparnglbarngl7244 3 жыл бұрын

@A B No, the mig is an air superiority fighter. Also, the mig, while having better flight characteristics, has less advanced technology implemented compared to the f-16. If these machines went against eachother with equally skilled pilots, it becomes anyone's game

@observerrecord2499 3 жыл бұрын

That was a fair and unbiased comparison I have heard and seen. The conclusion was that F16 has a very slight edge because of slightly better radar. Now I am not being biased here,, just revealing a truth. In the last 10 months (after this video was made), Mig29 has gone through an unexpected upgraded. Has anyone heard of Mig29 UPG upgrade? Well because of that the slight edge of F16's radar is lost. Now it really and only depends on the Pilots skill.

@forfun6273 2 жыл бұрын

Let the Americans integrate a mig 29 with their hardware and software and it would be superior. America just has a bigger budget and better technology. But the Russians designed the better barebones plane.

@Horible4 2 жыл бұрын

@@forfun6273 MiG-29 has a 6-18 combat record (3 MiG-29's get shot down for every kill they get). F-16 has a 76-1 combat record (nearly flawless). Quit overhyping Russian weapon platforms, they're severely overrated.

@forfun6273 2 жыл бұрын

@@Horible4 yeah who’s been flying each?

@Horible4 2 жыл бұрын

@@forfun6273 This excuse has been used for 5 generations of Soviet fighters. The MiG-21 also has a losing record at 240 kills to 501 shot down. Are you really going to try to convince me the Russians have been putting poorly trained pilots in their supposedly most formidable fighters for over 60 years? On paper these aircraft are told to be dangerous but when they actually get into combat, they get clobbered. The F-16, F-4, F-15, F-14, all have enjoyed the best combat records of any fighter in history. Not a single Russian aircraft comes close to their level of success. You can't convince me these thing's aren't flying propaganda.

@crevis12 Жыл бұрын

The F-16 looks pregnant with the conforming fuel tanks..

@seniorspaz8754 3 жыл бұрын

Aright, let’s settle this. Someone get Growling Sidewinder to prove who’s the winner

@684W13 3 жыл бұрын

True that

@yeoobabab404 3 жыл бұрын

Fun Fact: The Air Force of Poland has both aircrafts

@MusicMan-tm6ps 3 жыл бұрын

Right but only the 70% mig Version ;-)

@odszczepciesie5128 2 жыл бұрын

Opłaca się ten deal z 28-mioma mig-29 w zamian za 28 f-16?

@funnymakerboy4199 4 жыл бұрын

Each aircraft has its pros and cons

@HoBBLeCooKiE 2 жыл бұрын

After 10 minutes...... "we still don't have a clue...what do you think??".

@ZinXlX 3 жыл бұрын

With how the 2 aircrafts are near identical performance-wise I guess it just comes down to how good (or lucky) the Pilots are.

@manoranjanrath295 4 жыл бұрын

Dog fight mig will win,but depending on pilot.

@richardcocks7941 4 жыл бұрын

Two of them after engaging an F 15, not even a 16 got btfo'd lmao en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_engagements_of_the_Gulf_War#USAF_F-15C_vs._IRAF_MiG-21s Man them mig29s and 21s are trash fam :^)

@MyWorld-rl7lm 4 жыл бұрын

Mig down LIKE abhi nandan mig down by PAF.HEHEHE

@prabhanshutripathi8480 4 жыл бұрын

@@MyWorld-rl7lm F 16 down by mig 21 ... tch tch tch.moreover 300 out of the world. Imagine if our mig 21 shoots your (i mean USA's , you guys cant afford it) F16. Then what would rafale do

@azerbaycanturkiyecr4760 4 жыл бұрын

F16 win easy vs mig29 ! F16 block 70 fuck mig35 !!

@stefanstefanov8835 2 жыл бұрын

Of course the pilot skills are the most important. But if need to say which one is better I think it is the Mig 29.

@sparkmanuk 2 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of the 80s at air shows, when the Cold War was still on and these were brought out as the future aircraft.

@danishmirza3169 4 жыл бұрын

Malaysia with the mig-29: I'll Take your entire stock

@spartanx9293 3 жыл бұрын

Singapore will buy our f16s

@leesengwee4692 3 жыл бұрын

Mig 29 cheaper and faster.

@spartanx9293 3 жыл бұрын

@@leesengwee4692 with a shorter range

@fazrul78 3 жыл бұрын

@godzilla love sushi our big investor come from america not russia... america cover malaysia against china aggressor in south china sea..where is russia ?no voice at all

@mikehanlam9518 3 жыл бұрын

Malaysia? Still got engine available meh? I don't know that 🤷‍♂️

@tapankumarsenapati303 3 жыл бұрын

It is not the machine wins, The man behind the machine wins.

@renzovergara3436 3 жыл бұрын

yes, very wise words.

@johnaugsburger6192 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@frankteunissen6118 2 жыл бұрын

Silly question. Which would win is determined by which one is better networked.

@thirdstar9255 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but in Iron Eagle, Doug Masters could fire 3 shots from the "30mm cannon" and blow up a tent.

@svenmauer602 3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂👍

@arguywindham1101 3 жыл бұрын

To be fair even a 20mm cannon can rip apart a tent.

@theylied1776 4 жыл бұрын

For anyone who doesn't know, China's J-20 is nothing more than a redesigned MiG-29. All they did was redesign the airframe.

@Karl-Benny 4 жыл бұрын

and you know this how

@mattxgaming4053 4 жыл бұрын

Karl-benny johansson he doesn’t

@reshanbiran6873 4 жыл бұрын

Do u mean mig 1.44 bruh

@Maharashtradeshaa 3 жыл бұрын

Combination of fighters in battle is more important...... that's why airforce of many countries uses combination of different fighters in battle

@dilipkumar-or6hq 3 жыл бұрын

Mig 29👍

@superiomikkac.-tm4a276 2 жыл бұрын

It depends on the pilots ability and skills to defeat their opponent! But this two combat jet have different capabilities intended for their mission. Their specs differ from each other and they have a capabilities superior on each in different aspects.

@Mike_Jones281 2 жыл бұрын

Well said.

@KrillLiberator 3 жыл бұрын

Sky Flash! Wow, there's a missile I haven't heard about since the Tornado ADV...

@davout5775 2 жыл бұрын

Personally I believe F-16 is superior purely because America has always been better than Russia in avionics. F-16 will remain more relevant than Mig-29 having the latest tech and software available for the platform at least.

@tetraxis3011 2 жыл бұрын

Wow....you are really stupid. First, what are the proofs that The US has always been better than Russia in avionics? Second, The F16 production line wont be around for much more time at all, while the Mig 35(super modern mig 29) is just starting production. You stated 2 things and got them both wrong.

@2ballz543 2 жыл бұрын

That is true, but countries like India also modify and modernise the MiG 29 through foreign avionics from France and Israel which can greatly improve perfomance and make it more equal to the F16, the MiG 29 'UPG' variant, currently in service with the IAF is cited as 'the most advanced variant of the MiG 29' by RAC MiG directors

@davout5775 2 жыл бұрын

@@2ballz543 That's absolutely fine and very likely. There are European countries that do the same. So India is perfectly capable of doing so

@MhuieMmw 10 ай бұрын

bullshit 😂😂😂😂😂

@sweetroscoeful 4 жыл бұрын

Super maneuverability has never been clearly established to give an edge, since in order to perform such maneuvers requires tremendous loss of energy. It probably comes down to if the fighters engage in a 1 or 2 circle fight, my guess that the f-16 wins the 2 circle fight while the mig 29 will have an advantage in a 1. If the F-16 keeps the energy up, he wins. If he get's slow, the Mig has the advantage.

@joshuareed6894 3 жыл бұрын

The average person doesn’t understand dogfights are about energy management.

@franciscokayo3250 2 жыл бұрын

The supermaneuverabilty it better for avoid missiles and make radar track difficult now a days.

@joshthemigpro1733 Жыл бұрын

F16 is the better 1 circle fighter Mig 29 is better at 2 circles But only just

@waleedmushtaq129 4 жыл бұрын

Apparently Mig-29 seems better .. But the Abilities of Operator does Matter ..👍

@tadounia01 4 жыл бұрын

The F-16 is an overall better aircraft, so in a dogfight, at least on paper, the f-16 should kick ass, but at the end of the day it could depend on things as little as what the pilot had for breakfast.

@SUNNYDAY-if8yo 4 жыл бұрын

@@tadounia01 🤣🤣🤣

@LooxJJ 11 ай бұрын

They are not even close in terms of comparison. Mig 29 was originally designed as a frontline bomber interceptor (yes, interceptor). If WW3 was to break out, Mig-29 will be at the frontline, using highways or temporary runways as a take off points, climbing to high altitude fast, and intercept incoming American bombers. It is maneuverable somewhat, but in no way close to F-16 or F-18 due to lack of optimal design it bleeds off energy very fast. But as a primary air threat - it appears out of nowhere and launches missiles and disappears, it does its job incredibly well (Mig-35 was an attempt to remedy this to make Mig-29 platform a bit more versatile). F-16 on the other hand - is a pure multirole fighter with sophisticated FBW system. As aircraft itself is unstable by nature, it is incredibly maneuverable - and optimal for air-to-air engagement as well as ground targe elimination. Very versatile is the word that should describe this jet. Both aircraft are good - but you simply cannot compare both side by side as both aircraft are designed under a very different military doctrine. It's like trying to compare what is a better at riding when one is 2 door sports car vs a motorcycle...it depends on the situation.

@Uriel77200 2 жыл бұрын

These titles of who would win, this fighter or that fighter reminds me of videos about who would win a warrior with a katana or a warrior with a long sword. The answer is always the same. The better swordsman or in this case, the better fighter pilot.

@haiderhayat3057 4 жыл бұрын

Mig 29...simply

@dibakarroy226 3 жыл бұрын

F-16 Newar blocks like Block 52+, block 60, block 70/72 easily MAKE first radar lock on Mig-29 UPG or Mig-35 with its Better Radar and Better BVR. Missile

@tetraxis3011 2 жыл бұрын

On the Mig 29 UPG yes. But not on the Mig 35. The Mig 35 outclasses the F16 Block 52. Maybe the block 70 would fare better.

@voldemore6300 Жыл бұрын

Depending on who is behind the steering

@owenlien1593 Жыл бұрын

Love them both

@johnconrad5487 4 жыл бұрын

Wont be long now... Presently Syrian Air Force is attacking targets in Idlib and Turkey is trying to protect the Idlib targets. So first we shall see Turkish F16 vs Syrian MIG29. If the aircraft are equal then it is up to the pilots. Then it depends upon the Syrian Air Force if they want to take on the Israeli AF which is attacking Iranian targets in Syria using F-16s and F-15s.. So the real life answer to this question will be coming soon.

@jaccb.861 4 жыл бұрын

Possible but I think it will be more around Turkish f16 against some sams Syria is in war long time and pilots are not well trained in general plus new migs are deployed no more infos about its trainings equipment etc and for Israels f15 f16 they doing some serious tactics i think it will take some more time to be hold down

@purushothamreddyp4591 4 жыл бұрын

@@jaccb.861 yes Israeli pilots are better trained with excellent skills and a kill motto

@maxbeboid6374 2 жыл бұрын

As a syrian let me drop some truth bombs: 1_ Israeli AF are attacking all military targets (syrian iranian) except Russian. Russia wont let syrian AF or AA defences retaliate fearing political problems with the US (mostly because the US are waiting for a reason to tighten the noose on syria in any way they can) and israel are staying away from Russian targets for the same reason so syrain MIGs taking on Israeli F16s is not happening. 3_turkey actually crossed the syrian border and are occupying syrian grounds but Russia wont let syria do anything for the same reasons as above and syrian AF is not going near idlib russian AF are bombing a few terrorist targets far from the Turkey occupied zones. 4_even if things escalate to all out war levels(extremely unlikely) Syria has a shit air force but enough AA missiles with so many types that they would give even the US air force pause(not enough to beat it back but enough to incur seriouse losses) so 90% of engagements would be AA missiles vs planes not dog fights. In conclusion Russia the USA turkey and israel are having themselves a cold war rematch while us Syrians are slaughtered robbed and economically starved for absolutely no fault of our own BuT You KnOW tHe UsA ANd rUSsiA GoTta fiGHt OVeR DaT OiL sO FuCk Us RiGhT.