In Iraq a f15 took out a Heli with a jdam....fucking hard core

@@foxxy46213 god damn that’s awesome! Bombed a fucking helicopter hahah

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@@foxxy46213 from concussive ground effect or literally dropped a bomb on em?

@@tyc4231 Litrally hit them like a missile look it up it's an insane story...Infact the 2000lb bomb had more range than the sidewinder he was doing 700mph an cos it was close to the ground back scatter made it hard to lock on..Even the SF team they was helping..the helos were dropping off troops to ambush the SF team radioed an said did we just see what we thought we saw....yep The only f15 eagle with an air to air kill it's called Lucky cos of it now..legend

ay lmao the MiGs weren't so safe

Helicopters are the ones that surprise me

@@theweakbeast7833 yes, planes make sense how they fly. Stick your hand out of a car window and you can feel the lift by rotating your hand. Helicopters are straight witchcraft.

And then shoot other people out of the air with them 😂😂

I am always amazed that in 60 years we went from the first flight to landing on the moon. War brings a lot of misery but gives us new technology

KYLE X HALO LOL

KYLE X HALO lmfaaaaaooo 😂😂😂

+James Morris really

and they are human in old airplane trying to Defends their country

lol. that cracked me up. (Ik thats whats lol means). That guy confused af while he drifts down.

lillitot He means fighter aircraft, ww2 aircraft jettisoned their load when engaging in a dogfight, same with in Vietnam and korea.

So I guess bombers never existed or never shot down attacking aircraft?

Neovo903 he is talking about fighter aircraft wheres your brain

@@Mattetcesttout In my head, where's yours? r/whoosh

Neovo903 still got the point boi

The sounds from the ground was insane too I heared

Yeah, modern air combat takes "quality over quantity" to an incredible level.

"couple of hundred?" Try raids of 1000s of B-17s and B-24s against the Krauts.

@@northwestprof60 I Believe the largest air attack ever was Hamburg which was just over 700 planes. I’ve never heard of an air attack that had thousands of planes.

@@SeanP7195 I’m listening to day by Stephen Ambrose and he mentioned 800+ allied planes carrying troops on dday. Not sure what the support was. It’s within the first 25-5-0 pages

I was crash & salvage on Saratoga at the time, not once did I see any actual pics/footage of either of our yard dart squadrons. Rampagers or Sunliners.

@@rolltidelbc2832 I have both of these kills at www.reddit.com/r/GunCameraClips www.reddit.com/r/GunCameraClips/comments/hq7qml/lt_nick_mongo_mongillo_in_an_fa18c_from_vfa81_off/ www.reddit.com/r/GunCameraClips/comments/hqd0hw/ltcdr_mike_mrt_fox_also_of_vfa81_with_the_other/

Yes I was assigned with VFA-81 when this took place. "Fox" and his wingman "Mongo" was the only Navy Kills. Yes you are correct only 10% was actual the combat footage. "Sunliners" forever....! Rest In Peace LT CDR SCOTT SPEICHER "Spike" We made him proud I'm sure of that!

well, it's not like there's another way...

I try to do it from the space station but they chase me away everytime

Lol yea...

That's not entirely true. Some are doing it from their basements.

wkwkwkwk

killing someone while almost being killed isnt a good feeling its scary.

Hey thanks sir buzz killington...but it was obvious in the video that he felt pretty fuckin awesome, as would I.

Adam i think he was more happy to be alive

Vice admiral Fox used to give speeches about this dog fight while I was underneath him at NAS Fallon.

If by "almost killed you" you mean, we totally killed them before they ever knew that flying in our direction is an awful idea --- while we did something else entirely - You'd be right "yolo man" -- Rewatch, entire Iraq air force decimated. (2 planes)

you meant a mark 1 not a t62

각이다 TV Yes, my bad.

+MC-PS-PLAYA yup

nah, chalk it up to poor training - the mig is faster and agile, get close, the hornets would jettison bombs to manuever. Of course the Mig driver must get past the radar guided AIM 7.

Yeah if the T62 was 400 miles per hour faster than the Abrams

I thought the later versions of MiG 21s (the ones probably used) were gen 3

20 years difference in their first flight it wasn't even a fucking contest.

And what about training? Who drew straws to take that one up? Uh, sorry you two, you're going against the US AirForce who isn't even ready for you, but I suspect that doesn't matter, since they were ready for migs 30~ish years ago....

It has been said it's not about the aircraft but the person flying the aircraft. I think we'll make a small exception in this case. ;-)

Just target practice for the f/a 18.

True.. Very True 😂

You can be my wingman if you want

Still a badass for the rest of your life either way

Sadly wasn't the case for my dad. :/

@@No-un1ei Quite the contrary for my father.

boot

​@@colegrish9732 wdym?

The US loves that you love them

Que viva La Armada. 🇪🇸

They are very formidable Aircraft! Was Spain at one time, playing around with Hornets that had thrust-vectoring nozzles?

We thank your government for buying our jets. We also recommend you take a look at our new f15x and surface to air missile and our tanks. You can never have enough.

@@timgressler3654 There are a few Russian Fighters, that have thrust vectoring nozzles, as well.

It looks like a hard landing but it really is'nt as bad as it looks

Wonder what an LSO would give that landing.

A hard ass landing for a hard ass plane

tbh, the gear can take a punch but this was pretty much on the limit. the airframe is now in for some extensive checking

A good-ass suspension

right

But the Muricans were using hax... obviously. They should be banned. Or at least, restricted from chat for a week or so. Also, Lego. It's made in Sweden, so... your argument is shit.

no ones making that claim because they think war should be fair they are saying it because others are saying this is proof mig 21s were shit even though they were one of the most advanced jets of their time

I think they're more disappointed that it isn't a same-generation engagement since it doesn't confirm their preconceived bias between the F-teens and the MiGs of the last few decades. Nobody can use this to say that Americans are better than Russians and they find it disappointing. Others are defensive about the MiGs and so they quickly point out it wasn't an "even" match. I don't really know enough about aircraft history to know the jet fighter generations backwards and forwards.

Pay2win

Reminds me of that one Dos Gringos song about World War III - "Their suicidal bravery made us feel bad for them. So Tuesdays it was heaters only, Wednesdays BFM."

At least they can fly a plane unlike you maybe

The fishbed is a jet, a pretty good one for its time it's just that its time was fourty years ago

Yeh to fkn right m8t.

Why y'all so angry lmao

It's hard to compete with planes built by slaves when it comes to cost

yea the ammunition individually doesn't add up to this MiG-21 but with all of it on the plane together excluding the planes price it's usually higher depending on the ammunition it's equipped with.

@@random-b-i2480 because they killed our people

He meant it for a fighter, more precisely a multirole. Fighter planes used to detach their payloads when they engaged in a dogfight, even in Vietnam. The First Gulf War saw the first ever confirmed air-to-air kill for a fighter plane with the bombs still attached, although I'm pretty sure some fortunate kills happened in said circumstances way back in WW2 also.

Hell ya tail gunners rock!

And B-25s AND B-24s, etc.

No mam. F-18 was my jam for my peanut butter. I was a tester for the 22 Rappers but they couldn’t even win the fight because they are all about the electricronics versus looking out the windscreen. I am completely impressed that you know about me before we have even met. Come take the E7 Master Chief.

Mario Aleksandrov Well said. I'm surprised they got within sidewinder range though, considering they were carrying sparrows and the sentry had identified the MiGs as bandits.

It's those damn rules of engagement again!

Mario Aleksandrov butthurt russian

Mario Aleksandrov the mig-21bis was produced in 1985.

Mario Aleksandrov The MiG-21's still considered a maneuverable aircraft. You take a MiG-21 with with just two air-to-air missiles vs an F/A-18 with two or three tanks, plus 4 1000 pound bombs and four air-to-air missiles, you're looking at an interesting match.

+Robert T Bomber planes of WW2 still had a shit ton of machine guns on them that scored plenty of kills.

+Cody Stringer Yes, but I am pretty sure they meant fighter aircraft, not bombers

+Robert T OR it's simply a comparison for the F-14A Tomcat's array of bombs as "purposed weaponry".

+Newt Yang …with the F-14 Tomcat most well-known, seeing at any of the major air combat situations of today.

+Robert T Yeeaah there are hundreds of fighters in WW2 on all sides that got AtA kills while carrying bombs.

it's more of geriatric sheep with no teeth vs an Alpha wolf, it's not even remotely fair. They brought a knife to a gun fight, a rusty knife used by their grandparents and payed the price.

IcespherePlaysGames TRUTH LOOOOL

+Trent Wright mig-21 is older

Wolf versus sheep BC you said f-18 first.

😂 racist as fuck! 😂😂😂

FUCKING JOIN KID YOU WONT REGRET IT

Did you join?

I met him in D.C. while I was stationed there as a corpsman. He was an Admiral already and I talked about F18's for a minute with him because I saw his Aviator pin and at the time I was playing FSX. I had no idea he had air to air kills until I googled him a few days later out of curiousity. Mind blown having met a badass pilot.

@@Kraken9911 I met him when he was CCMF and in command of fifth fleet in Bahrain CENTCOM. Genuinely nice guy. Edit - it was NAVCENT that he was CO of, and the CCMF which had UKMCC in it. NAVCENT is the US maritime component of CENTCOM.

The poor cessna wouldnt even see the hornet before his death not knowing a aim 120 amraam was locked onto him because he lacks rwr

@@bigtroglodyte What... wrong the cessna would it engage its secret hyperspace drive and teleport behind the hornet you big dum dum.

Daniel Pogosyan mustve paid extra for your Cessna

Sucks to suck.

the Cessna obviously

+BC Mercrow ayylmao battlefeld add me on origin Ryuzetsukun xDDD

Exactly

+BC Mercrow LMAO!

aye bro

+Jhawkmarine you're bad

There’s also water and pipes that go along with it to slow/stop aircraft.

If you don't catch the cable you speed up and try landing again lol, you have to be an idiot to fall into water. Once the pilot feels the wheels hit the ground, he is supposed to go full throttle, either he will be stopped by the tross or he will have enough thrust to immediately take off and try landing again. Which is rare because for that to happen you have to be a terrible flier and miss your landing spot, or just unlucky enough for several hook skips (hook somehow bouncing off the wire) to occur, there's more than one "wire" to catch you. There's no magic in it, just obvious safety rules that everyone follows. If you want to be impressed by something like that, think of prop planes, with those you couldn't just go full throttle because their rudders and ailerons couldn't handle it in those specific conditions, you also have to adjust for torque of your motor, but all of this is a downside of a turboprop and luckily long gone.

I was with a Marine Corps F-4 squadron in Viet Nam. The MIG 21 was held in high regard and never underestimated by those who were actually in combat

Russia's Air Force today is not good.

Even when we shoot down mig29s which we have you turn around and say oh but they were Arabs. Why don't you go watch your Russian propaganda videos on youtov and leave the KZfaq to us.

True. You have to take into account that inbreeds were flying them.

@@motorcyclestig8539 когда это вы сбивали МиГ-29? И чем и какие силы при этом были задействованы? Может быть в Ираке? Да хрен вам. Или в Югославии? Тоже хрен. МиГ-29 любого своего современника один на один разберет на запчасти.

There you go. Their pilots become Uber drivers. That says it all, doesn't it???

@@northwestprof60 I don’t think Iraqi military earnings were enough to sustain him financially, especially in light of how the country is faring overall now, even if he had domestic investments, they’re probably not worth much; I think his current profession doesn’t have any reflection on his skills as a fighter pilot, it’s just financial. Get over yourself. I doubt you could even fly a kite.

Says the guy whose country is illegally invading and destroying states. At the same time you proudly present symbols of a nation in a similar situation of iraq lol. what a joke

The F-35 II will be filling three roles, possibly more, for the Army, Marines and Airforce. The F/A-18 is still in my top 11 all time, with the F-22, F-35, F-117, 16, 15, 14, 4, A-10, B-1 and B-2 👊🏼💯

LOL

as far as ive seen the camos havent changed.

It's technology

That's called barely trained 3rd world pilots

TheTabellarius not all the same, the egyptian pilots in the 73 war did really great against the IAF . took a lot of airets down with mig-21 and mig22

***** as I've said it comes down to pilot training not just the aircraft they fly.

LCDRhammond They were clearly not engaging, This was truly a mercy kill. Seems like they ran, maybe out of ammo entirely? Maybe commanded to run, maybe scared? Whatever it was, it wasnt a fight...

Nope Nopenope Doubt they were out of ammo being commanded to run or scared seeing the 18's is possible but they made a fatal mistake what they should have done instead was to turn into the 18's that would have given them a better chance. If I had been in the F-18 I would have done the exact same thing and shot them down before they even knew I was there I would'nt give them the chance to even start a fight exactly how every fighter pilot has tried to do since WW1

Wow is this really true?

Brandon Oum no- nobody ever ran away from a tom kitty

Brandon Oum Yes, America went from being noob plane makers in WW2 to dammingly awesome plane makers in the 21st century

Iraqi planes have been running away from Tomcats since the first Persian gulf war (Iran-Iraq war). They know firsthand what the AIM54s are capable of.

Loved the Tomcat. Navy wishes it still had it I bet.

Were you a F-14 pilot

@@stealthtomcat4739 no, I was enlisted, not a pilot.

@@Barnacle392 Thanks for your reply sir. Actually lam a huge fan of F-14.

Make love no war

YOu never did

Why is it such a thing with you youngsters to do these whole stupid scripts?

To OP. What a silly comment.

Totalavulsion Oh wow.

yes

The American pilots passed away?

@@peanutbutter1562 Referring to Iraq Pilots.

Yep. Respect your enemy. They’re humans too

No, they might be enemies but they're still people with their own lives possibly with family

What do you mean by that?

@@Trebare I think they meant that its embarrassing that the production crew of this video didn't take a time machine and film the engagement on their own.

@@fatherofdragons5477 They are pressenting the footage like its original. If its not then a disclaimer should be shown.

yea its an intresting mission but not very realistic.

"He's janking into me for a 6th time!"

I loved the F-14 and the 18 but of all the military aircraft I've flown the best was flying the P-51 mustang in a air show

An ex air force pilot? Do you mind if I ask you a question? Do you receive instructions to protect civilian life in combat? Not accusing you of being a "LITERAL SS OFFICER!!!!111" but genuinely curious

Sniper5354 The radar does not pick up missile launches. The RWR does. The Mig-21's RWR is weak, old and with a high risk of failure. Also, the hornet launched an Aim-9 Heatseeking missile first which hit before the radar guided Aim-7 sparrow, and as the AIm-9 is not guided via radar, it didn't give away the launch and combined with the very, very poor and restricted rear visibility of the Mig, it was a sure easy kill.

Sniper5354 RWR does not pick up ir launches, but the mig is REALLY old compared to the f18 anyway so they didn't really stand much of a chance

Jason Jia Yes, Yes it does. There are sensors scattered across the aircraft corpus which detect the energy generated by a missile launch. That basically means that any good-sized missile launch, like an Igla or a TOW missile will be detected by the RWR.

I don't think it does. Depending on aircraft and it's configuration, maybe, for example, A10Cs have those sensors but for the F15 or not to even mention the even older Mig 21, there's no indication of an ir launch, only radar launches will give you a warning.

Jason Jia I did say that the Mig's RWR is old and weak. I was talking about western RWRs. Pretty much any western aicraft currently in service with a fully capable RWR has those sensors.

What does F/A stand for?

kenobi102 Fighter/Attacker The F in F22 stands for Fighter, The A in the A10 stands for Attacker and the B clearly means bomber. The FA18 is a Fighter and an Attacker.

Miam ga It has the capabilities to do the same thing but it is primary a fighter aircraft. it will work as an attacker in emergency time sensitive situations but its main mission serves as a fighter. F/A-18's will be sent on both missions.

@@ThePatrioticTurtle well I'd say if your attacking your fighting, and if your fighting you would be dumb to not attack.

@@toddwill2313 attack planes fight ground targets and fighters air targets

The mig-21 is actually a very good airframe/craft, but the countries that use it are very ignorant on its potential when it's upgraded. The Chinese upgraded versions of these (J-7 fighters, I think?) come with upgraded avionics, radar, and an updated airframe. Still not as capable as an American fighter, but it can stand on its own.

EnhanceRaptor a F-18 ain't a fuck around, if it can go toe to toe against a Su-27 then all MIGs and Su Designs older than it is crap because no way in hell can a MIG-21 down a superior Su-27

Not as relevant as sensors in a BVR fight.

The MiG-21 can be maneuverable at higher rates of speed, especially for its age. However, in a lower speed fight, the small wings and control surfaces become a major disadvantage. I'm sure it could definitely outrun and outclimb a Hornet, but in a turning fight it would have little chance. That's why the MiG-21s in Vietnam would do fast hit and runs and ambushes from high altitude on strike aircraft, and generally try to avoid tangling with the F-4s in a straight-up dogfight.

The Hornet is still remebered as the reject who lost to the F-16.

Simon Robinson the hornet was designed in the 70's and introduced in the 80's an the mig 21 is no slouch in the Maneuverablety department.

yankee pride, lol. grenade, vietnam, panama, iraq etc

puntadifeza yankee pride is right. It gets tiring being the most feared military force on the planet 😴

@@maxrobbins8598I don't know about that.... I just finish an EX with American troop (im a maintainer) and the American infantry looked at me confused when I jumped on the MG, nobody other than infantry came shoot anything else than rifles. If you ask me the US Forces is just a glass canon with training that poor.

​@@mathieu4432 Where are you from? Because if you're in any country that is allied with us, chances are we had to bail you out from being taken over by a foreign power in the past 70 years. I wouldn't call a nation with the M1 Abrams tank, 5th gen fighter jets, and the largest military in the world a "glass cannon." You European nations should just keep your mouth shut unless you guys want to stop buying our technology and asking us to bail you out of every sticky situation you guys get yourselves into. Normally the brits and french are cool guys, but you're probably just a 18 year old grunt straight out of basic, so I'm not going to put much thought into you

Lol dont got much runway all landings gotta be hard

@@theoriginaltroll388 yes obviously

those are early F18c maybe that's why today we usually see F18e/f

***** GooseGamingHD is wrong, it's just the video clips are flipped, making it look like the stick is left handed.

HAHHAA

Fuck you

@@Ahmed-cn6hj haha!!

+ComMander0525 battlefield swag...

There's a reason they don't use cannons for dogfighting

MC-PS-PLAYA y?

ComMander0525 Do you know how fast and maneuverable fighter jets are and how the cannons only fire in one direction and cants move.

MC-PS-PLAYA EXACTLY !!! THAT'S WHEN THE WORLD '' SKILLS '' COMES

thank you

Dude, tell your father he's really cool.

sweet

Nice

You probably shouldn't give out your father's service details on a public, global site like KZfaq.

Nico Montinola go and swim with your cats weirdo

Lmao what a freak people check this Nico guys weird ass channel.

@@squidiz496 bwHaha

@@MeanMarqus haha

@@squidiz496 Let me help. Those are called cats and dogs.

The plane dead fly by it self Fantastic job By a great American pilot

Proof?

@@moe109_ www.ndtv.com/india-news/wreckage-of-downed-pak-f-16-seen-in-pok-2000649?amp=1&akamai-rum=off

aero rk no lol😂😂 m.economictimes.com/news/defence/us-count-of-pakistans-f-16s-fighter-jets-found-none-of-them-missing-report/articleshow/68733231.cms

Yeah

U mean couple of trees and a crow for 2 aircraft and a pilot!

@@xyzabc9628 settle up with it the international media knows better

simba1 proof for all that? Or did you manipulative media tell you that, any recordings of the paf pilot getting beat? His dead Body? His plane with the battalion emblem? No,because it's your media and gov telling you that check the logs no paf f-16 flew in that defense

Because they can kill outdated jets from the 50s???

No. The Tomcat has done this before as well. Because none of the Tomcat's five air-to-air kills involved carrying 8,000 pounds of bombs. You wouldn't know of any other airplane scoring a Mig kill without jettisoning its bombs first. If so, please tell me.

David N No because the hornet can do everything, its a multi-role fighter, it can do a variety of missions and get the job done, also it's easy to maintain unlike the f14 was, the f18 is perfect for the Navy and what they do and this is just the C/D variant the E/F Super Hornet is even better its the best Naval fighter in the world

Exactly my point. Tomcats only carried LGBs, JDAMs, dumb bombs and Maverick missiles. Hornets can carry all of those, and more. It was outfitted from the outset with its own laser targeting pod whereas the Tomcat had to use one the Air Force was already using.

David N haha your stupid they were not outdated the migs are actually the only jets that give the usa any competition in the world. We had smarter pilots