Dogfight: Rafale vs F22 (Close combat)

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BloodyHawk

BloodyHawk

11 жыл бұрын

The french won this round.
I don't own any of this.

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@tipoomaster
@tipoomaster 3 жыл бұрын
This video is such a reminder that being a fighter pilot isn't just joystick pew pew, there's so many physical demands on your body, you're constantly fighting to breathe even with g-suits, and imagine keeping focus with these g-forces
@metelelee7536
@metelelee7536 3 жыл бұрын
+adrenalin = life or death situation
@djambox1439
@djambox1439 3 жыл бұрын
@@metelelee7536 + amphetamine
@gauravrawat3914
@gauravrawat3914 3 жыл бұрын
First time I m seeing this. You are on point.
@halec3861
@halec3861 3 жыл бұрын
Yes.. You are right.. ;) It is not easy job sometimes..
@psychepeteschannel5500
@psychepeteschannel5500 2 жыл бұрын
There are lots of people out there who seriously think its basically an office job to be sitting in a fighter jet :D Under one video about scrambling for F16 launch, such comment got dozens of likes and agreeable replies :D They should watch this video, I guess that only looking at cockpit/base walkthroughs when the plane is stationary doesnt give the full picture afterall :D
@jgonz1325
@jgonz1325 5 жыл бұрын
I was playing this video in my room and my parents thought I was watching porn
@WarbirdPhoenix
@WarbirdPhoenix 5 жыл бұрын
Aviation wise,they're right.
@Akelehimarenge
@Akelehimarenge 4 жыл бұрын
@ 0.31 some one busted their nuts real hard.
@crazybablu9884
@crazybablu9884 4 жыл бұрын
Lol🤣🤣🤣
@Nosferatus29
@Nosferatus29 4 жыл бұрын
it's a bit true ! the US pilot has taken a lot in his ass ! 😂
@bolsonaroopressor1681
@bolsonaroopressor1681 4 жыл бұрын
😅😅😅
@matchesburn
@matchesburn 3 жыл бұрын
French Pilot: "Thank god they're on our side." American Pilot: "Thank god they're on our side."
@elta6241
@elta6241 3 жыл бұрын
Are they?
@matchesburn
@matchesburn 3 жыл бұрын
@@elta6241 Do your drive-by commenting elsewhere.
@elta6241
@elta6241 3 жыл бұрын
matchesburn Someone can’t accept that things don’t always stay the same, and haven’t.
@jacquesdupont325
@jacquesdupont325 3 жыл бұрын
@@elta6241 Amuse toi a traduire ça sur Google traduction connard
@jacquesdupont325
@jacquesdupont325 3 жыл бұрын
@frank lepigeon T as bien raison. Ces imbéciles ne savent que faire la guerre pour faire la paix. Heureusement leur pays est sur le déclin
@utrocker7
@utrocker7 4 жыл бұрын
I now realize the winner of a dog fight comes down to who doesn’t pass out first
@SuperMvrk
@SuperMvrk Жыл бұрын
That or whose plane does not stall and fall to the ground!
@zenitu6914
@zenitu6914 Жыл бұрын
@@SuperMvrkthey wouldn’t stall easily these jets have power to weight ration of 1plus and have powerful engines
@LT_.
@LT_. 7 ай бұрын
@@zenitu6914I mean. It depends. In most dogfights they always like to stay fast, maybe at 300-350 knots for most fighters, whilst some may operate better at slow speeds, notably like the F-18C and Super Hornet, which can bleed off speed quickly and bring the nose around with its nose authority. Sometimes these slow speeds are optimal and can bring some jets to the point of stalling, and since these usually happen at the deck at these speeds, there’s no altitude to dump the nose to regain speed. So sometimes stalling can kill in dogfights, although rare, it does happen.
@StandingHereI
@StandingHereI 12 күн бұрын
@@zenitu6914 The ability of an aircraft to stall has nothing to do with engine power or thrust-to-weight ratio. It depends on the layout of the airframe and the air intakes. the planes in the video are moving at a speed of mach 0.45, at this speed no modern jet engine will stall, regardless of the layout
@jra5624
@jra5624 5 жыл бұрын
Rafale’s are pretty serious contenders in close combat. Their maneuverability mixed with their low stall speed makes them dangerous as hell. And French pilots are pretty damn skilled. Edit: It really sucks that we can't just enjoy these beautiful aircraft without getting super political. It's a shame that this comment section has divulged into a bunch of ignorant garbage.
@cpp3221
@cpp3221 5 жыл бұрын
@dom com. it's dishonest because France is the country who won the higest number of battle in the history
@zameliz
@zameliz 5 жыл бұрын
@dom com. Do tell me how WWII has *ANY FUCKING RELEVANCE* to the topic at hand that is Rafale being a badass in a dogfight??? Also you are beinga fucking dunce and downplaying the frenchmen efforts in the WWII >_> How about you throw your bias out of the goddamn window?
@rahmatbanua7009
@rahmatbanua7009 5 жыл бұрын
dom com. America SUCK
@123fockewolf
@123fockewolf 5 жыл бұрын
@tfs2O3 What about the US that Started Al Qaida? And that by "Misstake" droped weapons to ISIS fighters instead of Kurdsish fighters...
@nicholas1130
@nicholas1130 5 жыл бұрын
Yup their pilots sure proved how skilled they were in 1940.. Lmaoooo
@doohan12345
@doohan12345 10 жыл бұрын
Bloody hell, that was some flying, you could almost feel the intensity :-)
@LIT_FUSED
@LIT_FUSED 4 жыл бұрын
G-DOGG - Cool Adventures Yeah I was wondering on edge as hell. And my hart was starting to beat faster and faster. Lol. But trying to keep up with the raptor is some crazy stuff.
@kestersmils9479
@kestersmils9479 3 жыл бұрын
That's just the G force in dogfight that's just crazy but actually the Rafle was not fighting that hard because the F22 pilot was not that experienced so that was pretty much easy for the Rafale to Fox2 him... If you want to know more about the fight there is a really cool video about it in English and in French by ATE-topgun2speaker a former Rafale pilot
@MrWizardjr9
@MrWizardjr9 3 жыл бұрын
i can certainly hear it
@holyvideos6585
@holyvideos6585 3 жыл бұрын
I aminigi the enemy how he sounded
@reddckdan8958
@reddckdan8958 2 жыл бұрын
I totally felt the heavy breathing
@johndoe-cd9vt
@johndoe-cd9vt 5 жыл бұрын
I try to imagine the noise in the F22's cockpit.... "LOCKED" "LOCKED" "ALARM!!!" and the pilot "WTF he can see me ?!" LOL
@JoeSerpa
@JoeSerpa 5 жыл бұрын
Excactly that. But a lot of Americans here, theirs main "argument" for "F22 is much better" is F22 was in movie, or "it was on Discovery chanell the best"?
@cajunvoodoo5930
@cajunvoodoo5930 5 жыл бұрын
BTW there isnt a voice when you are locked, it's a sound. When a new radar has been detected (not locked or launched on) you hear a blip. When locked it's a constant beeping tone and when launched on it gives a faster beeping. If it's a fox 2 there is no tone unless they jet had a mws, which it's tome changes depending on the system
@JoeSerpa
@JoeSerpa 5 жыл бұрын
@Frank Jin Rafale can lock F22 at any range possible, no problem. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jdKHhNaImcC-loU.html
@mastagonzo1121
@mastagonzo1121 5 жыл бұрын
Harry Potter's invisibility cloak only works in movies
@stevienicks3777
@stevienicks3777 5 жыл бұрын
Blah blah blah. The whole point of the F-22 is to avoid these engagements. Whether that works in real life will have to wait until the first real air-to-air engagement - it may never even see that. Its a credit to the F-22 that it did as well as it did. It is a large and fast plane, similar to the F-15 it replaced. Most often the F-16 is the better plane in close engagement against the F-15 due to it being lighter and more agile, not a bad comparison to this engagement. The Rafale is smaller and more agile while still retaining two engines which probably give it a good amount of pickup when needed. BTW, hats off to this French pilot and his plane. He certainly earned it and the plane is definitely a beast in a dogfight.
@irishcheese9575
@irishcheese9575 3 жыл бұрын
Being in a dogfight has to be the most stressful thing I could think of
@alexm7627
@alexm7627 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine the adrenaline
@ZERO-ed7vc
@ZERO-ed7vc 2 жыл бұрын
Senator
@Daisy-ef6bq
@Daisy-ef6bq 2 жыл бұрын
What about being raped?
@kudason
@kudason 2 жыл бұрын
How about against 8 SAMs?
@johnd.rednut297
@johnd.rednut297 2 жыл бұрын
@@Daisy-ef6bq 🤣🤣 you got a point
@arno222444
@arno222444 8 жыл бұрын
Hey guys I am french and I recognise that the F22 is a fucking beast why don't you recognise the Rafale is also pretty badass and anyway we will never know which one is the deadliest in dogfight because we are allies and friends!! The good part of it is that each side has an ally with fucking badass fighters!! And that good! :) So stop arguing forever and let's celebrate this good piece of dogfight demonstration.
@MissesVp
@MissesVp 8 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@unknowncaller3348
@unknowncaller3348 8 жыл бұрын
great comment
@FrapoDingo
@FrapoDingo 8 жыл бұрын
+arno222444 yes but...... Rafale > F22 ! :D
@searcherT
@searcherT 8 жыл бұрын
always give props to french. They are excellent engineers always have been. Don't consider the f22 badass though. In my eyes it stopped way short of what I would make a gen 5 plane. t the very least would of added electro gravitics to help with the g force problem. It also needed another gun platform type I will not disclose do not want to give anyone this idea. this way in close it could pull maneuvers that would tear other planes apart.
@Occasional-Win
@Occasional-Win 7 жыл бұрын
It's not about friendly competition. Americans want to be the best! Was this exercise in Alaska?
@Mistjeager
@Mistjeager 5 жыл бұрын
Regardless of whether this is an actual fight or not. Respect to any pilot taking that G force. Probably the worst thing about flying in the airforce right?
@rahmanlinux9602
@rahmanlinux9602 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah :D
@springbloom5940
@springbloom5940 5 жыл бұрын
At 00:31, you can hear him poke his eyeball back into the socket.
@danielpadilla7601
@danielpadilla7601 5 жыл бұрын
@@springbloom5940 wait what?!
@springbloom5940
@springbloom5940 5 жыл бұрын
@@danielpadilla7601 Its a high-G joke.
@danielpadilla7601
@danielpadilla7601 5 жыл бұрын
@@springbloom5940 Ohhh ok. Sorry kinda got freaked out for a moment. 😅
@ThatCarGuy
@ThatCarGuy Жыл бұрын
To people asking how this happened. The Rafale is playing the offensive roll while the F-22 is playing the defensive roll. They take turns flipping rolls. They don't do head on battles to reduce mid-air collisions. The F-22 needs to try to evade the Rafale when the Rafale has every advantage in this scenario. The F22 has won 241 to 2 losses in Red Flag exercises. It's only lost here and to a Mirage 2000 both while the F-22 was playing defense.
@greasyflight6609
@greasyflight6609 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the brief
@feynman_QED
@feynman_QED 11 ай бұрын
You're a hero man!
@feynman_QED
@feynman_QED 11 ай бұрын
Can you suggest the source where these data are shown?
@ThatCarGuy
@ThatCarGuy 11 ай бұрын
@@feynman_QED "The 241-to-two record was amassed over two weeks of air engagements. Tolliver noted that, in such battles, Red Air units were allowed to regenerate and return to the fight, but lost Blue forces could not. Even with such handicaps, in the largest single engagement, F-22-led forces claimed 83 enemies to one loss, after facing down an opposing force that had generated or regenerated 103 adversary fighters."
@A7XKoRnRocks1
@A7XKoRnRocks1 11 ай бұрын
Great cope but the Rafale wins this one easily. Also OF COURSE the F-22 will be better than all Western Aircraft, I mean it would be like shooting yourself in the foot if your next generation aircraft gets beaten by an F-16/15/14
@Antechristo
@Antechristo 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone’s gangsta until a Rafale shows up on your six.
@jay1st1st
@jay1st1st 4 жыл бұрын
LOL excellent !!!
@slingitsideways
@slingitsideways 4 жыл бұрын
@kpb96m1 Pulling between 2 and 8G you can bet the F22 pilot is breathing just as heavy
@slingitsideways
@slingitsideways 4 жыл бұрын
@kpb96m1 🤣🤣🤣🤣 kids today hey... believe anything put in front of them. Need me to point out the many things wrong with your comment.
@djsonicc
@djsonicc 4 жыл бұрын
@@slingitsideways that one flew over your head higher than F-22
@HD-zn2bj
@HD-zn2bj 4 жыл бұрын
@kpb96m1 is that why je lost the fight ? :)
@akshaydeshpande8133
@akshaydeshpande8133 4 жыл бұрын
Alright let's go in comment section and see what experts say about it......
@Borex2
@Borex2 4 жыл бұрын
F-22 is not the best in dog fight but i wonder how they got in dog fight first of all. Because F-22 is size of marble to get spotted or Raptor would have detected it long before RAFALE
@akshaydeshpande8133
@akshaydeshpande8133 4 жыл бұрын
@@Borex2 don't worry it's not a real dog fight
@w1z4rd9
@w1z4rd9 4 жыл бұрын
akshay deshpande In reality f22 ain’ t even appearing on rafale’s radar and it will get shot down without even the pilot’s concern
@karabiner98k54
@karabiner98k54 3 жыл бұрын
@@w1z4rd9 Nope... Rafale also have very small rcs(0.5 sqm)..
@akshaydeshpande8133
@akshaydeshpande8133 3 жыл бұрын
@Apoorv Chauhan no it's not true.....Yes it can be locked by rafales but in a very rare case, in this case before this footage f22 killed Rafale 4 times and the game was of 5 killes
@yakapa1
@yakapa1 3 жыл бұрын
It's incredible how he just controls the situation. Breathing heavily, But being professional and precise at all time. Congrats!
@carroteer
@carroteer 2 жыл бұрын
he's breathing so heavily to pump oxygen to his brain cause in a jet you can experience even 9 times the force of earth gravity and all the blood is pushed down from his brain to the legs
@simplicity6288
@simplicity6288 2 жыл бұрын
@@carroteer he knows that for sure mate
@ohlawd3699
@ohlawd3699 5 ай бұрын
Dayum, I can't believe he got the Raptor in his crosshairs. The Rafale is no joke! 🤯
@CoffeeAndPaul
@CoffeeAndPaul 3 ай бұрын
Right? Those are some damn fine combat jets. France should be very proud of the work it's done with those. They're ridiculously powerful fighters.
@abhi1021
@abhi1021 3 жыл бұрын
Darth Vader: May the G-Force be with you!
@FoxWithTheAngels
@FoxWithTheAngels 3 жыл бұрын
Lmfao
@JustRememberWhoYoureWorkingFor
@JustRememberWhoYoureWorkingFor 2 жыл бұрын
Lmfao
@HyouMix
@HyouMix 2 жыл бұрын
Lmfao
@karlknz7723
@karlknz7723 Жыл бұрын
Damn good lmfao
@LudicFallacies
@LudicFallacies 10 жыл бұрын
0:10 to 0:30 and 0:37 to 0:43 he has radar lock on that F-22 with moments of MICA seeker tracking. At 0:13 and 0:42 the MICA seeker head even locks! 0:50 FOX TWO! He had a good 5 seconds of seeker head lock for fox two prior to the 0:50 MICA launch and prior he had at least three moments of off bore slingshots he could have taken. 2:39 the Rafale breaks off. I'm amazed at how many times the Rafale locked onto the F-22. The thing is we don't know how many times the F-22 had a lock on the Rafale! For certain the F-22 would have had Fox Three before this turned into a dogfight. I really wonder though if F-22 even got Fox Two looking at those merges and AOA. Rafale was in a much better position numerous times during that engagement and was the superior pilot. INCREDIBLE! SALUTE Armée de l'Air!
@davidburke4360
@davidburke4360 9 жыл бұрын
There were no missiles on the Rafale and was flying clean that's why it had to run because it was running out of fuel.... How can you lock when you have no missiles?
@CorsairRunner
@CorsairRunner 9 жыл бұрын
David Burke What are you saying ? Rafale are often carrying captive missile with active seeker head but inert body.
@davidburke4360
@davidburke4360 9 жыл бұрын
EC 5/25 Corsair No, Rafale would no be flying clean and this is not accurate in a real dog fight scenario.
@LudicFallacies
@LudicFallacies 9 жыл бұрын
David Burke You think they run exercises like this to measure performance matrices yet they do not mount dummy missile et al? If they are simulating a MICA IR launch then without question they have a dummy MICA IR with a working seaker head on the wing rails. The question is are the drop tanks still attached? I think not.
@davidburke4360
@davidburke4360 9 жыл бұрын
LudicFallacies I'm sure they don't to maximize the Rafale's turn capability. I am also sure that if they where to put dummy missiles on they would not weigh as much as the real thing, especially when you want to catch a Raptor.
@wtfdoihavetodohere
@wtfdoihavetodohere 8 жыл бұрын
Much respect to the Rafale. While I would be surprised if it could consistently take down a Raptor, the Rafale is still one of the best fighters out there.
@michaelrunnels7660
@michaelrunnels7660 5 жыл бұрын
"the Rafale is still one of the best fighters out there" So say the French.
@trumanhw
@trumanhw 5 жыл бұрын
Dog fighters. But if it were about being an air superiority fighter with attack abilities? that'd be a completely different story. We're just isolating our focus to the subject measured. (It's like the anthropic principle in physics. lol)
@johndoe-cd9vt
@johndoe-cd9vt 5 жыл бұрын
@@trumanhw This is wrong, the Rafale has not been created for dogfights, it's just a multirole fighter, he also has one of the best Air/Air capabilities... F22 is a 5th gen fighter, Rafale is maybe the only one "4+" gen and maybe today he is a 5th gen because they keep updating it since a few year. But what I can tell you is, there are no "invisible fighters" in the US army, the rafale can detect all of them, it's just marketing... The rafale also has stealth capabilities.
@joshguan8672
@joshguan8672 5 жыл бұрын
jack tom the Rafale can barely keep lock in visual range lol. Rafale detecting f-22 in BVR is almost not possible
@trumanhw
@trumanhw 5 жыл бұрын
@@michaelrunnels7660 My mommy says I'm smart.
@isaytheenay5961
@isaytheenay5961 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know what I'm looking at. Requesting Mover to come break down this video, over.
@Robloxchat123
@Robloxchat123 4 жыл бұрын
i see, we all come from mover
@weedt0aster673
@weedt0aster673 4 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah
@ricot1797
@ricot1797 4 жыл бұрын
Mover must review this ASAP!!!
@Soeeasy
@Soeeasy 4 жыл бұрын
Mover won't ever feature something negative about the f22 i think
@beesaysmoo
@beesaysmoo 4 жыл бұрын
Dude yes! I was going to leave a comment on his channel so he could do a video about it!
@jonn443
@jonn443 4 жыл бұрын
is more agile then the F-18 and obviously a worthy adversary to the F-22. On another note, This pilot was pulling serious Gs!!
@batinimagus
@batinimagus 3 жыл бұрын
Mos intense 3 min that I had. After the merge when he screams under 7G and 8G, I was like "go go go You can do this!" These guys are superhumans, my neck is hurting just watching this lol
@infidel1993
@infidel1993 5 жыл бұрын
I’m not at all surprised by this since both the Rafale and Eurofighter Typhoon were designed from the outset with minimum turn radius as one of the primary goals. That said, dogfighting in modern air combat is essentially the same thing as bayonet training in the army and effectively boils down to individual pilot abilities. Whoever can pull more G’s for longer, wins.
@GregMeije
@GregMeije Жыл бұрын
that's very innacurate
@265justy
@265justy Жыл бұрын
So an F-16 can sustain 9G. Will it win.?
@CAL1MBO
@CAL1MBO 7 ай бұрын
@265justy Your head is stuck in the world of video games. Anything about 5G wears pilots down quickly, I know in your video game only 9G sounds like a lot.
@diollinebranderson6553
@diollinebranderson6553 7 ай бұрын
Your wrong. In this specific scenario, the f22 was on a defensive role.
@antoniomiljanovic9317
@antoniomiljanovic9317 5 ай бұрын
Keep crying child. today you can see trench warfare even with abrams challengers and leopards, himars ele.warfare drones, etc.. and this is not future of air combat but reallity today when 2 equals are fighting.. With 5th gen you can fight against 3rd world countries arica middle east south america... Try thisnwith eu russia china and you will come to basic dogfights..
@silent_wolf5699
@silent_wolf5699 5 жыл бұрын
I'm American and even I wouldn't have been surprise if the Rafale locked the Raptor for a little bit. The F-22 is not invisible at close range but merely incognito and I'm not surprised that Rafale was able to FOX 2 the Raptor at least once. Hats off to the French!
@firekingnabefriendly3312
@firekingnabefriendly3312 5 ай бұрын
Ofc f22 is a stealth fighter because close range will see you very easily
@danielh1708
@danielh1708 4 жыл бұрын
Training like this is done all the time. Its important for them to be pitted against hard adversaries. Teaches critical skills. Even training missions are not always designed to be even matched. We've had numerous visitors here at Langley to train/fight with/against the F-22's. Its great training for both air forces!
@83piwo
@83piwo 2 жыл бұрын
I almost passed out just watching it. I'm almost even more impressed by the many fighter pilots in the comments. Thank you for your service guys!
@LostAnFound
@LostAnFound 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent flying. Looks like his decision to gain altitude and come back down on the 22 paid off big. Happy that we're allies 🤙
@petarrakonjac1793
@petarrakonjac1793 5 жыл бұрын
Lost and Found - The Face of America Abroad hi yo yo maneuver... it works against any aircraft, but its decision to make in split second
@springbloom5940
@springbloom5940 5 жыл бұрын
It did not. This is a gunfight and he never gets a solution. The Raptor is literally flying circles around him. The reason he suddenly breaks off the engagement in the middle of an aggressive turn and starts communicating with the ground, is because he just got killed. He did, by any standard, put up a valiant fight.
@Rob-vv5yn
@Rob-vv5yn 5 жыл бұрын
He killed the F22 with gun shot and as said the Raphael is an excellent fighter in the dogfight situation. The key is never to get this close but in heated reality this situation can happen. Small numbers of fighters could get boxed in and have to fight like this the dogfight isn’t over yet snd that’s why training like this continues today ragardless of what is frequently published online.
@zameliz
@zameliz 5 жыл бұрын
@@springbloom5940 You gotta be fucking blind, this Rafale is prettymuch on the F-22's 6 o'clock prettymuch all the time, he even calls fox 2 around 0:51 (which is an IR-guided missile). Also at 2:30 what is that if not a target solution??? It is not only just a solution but the killshot that ended the dogfight. Next time you start talking shit try to make sure that you dont make yourself look like a dumbass.
@springbloom5940
@springbloom5940 5 жыл бұрын
@@zameliz You have zero clue WTF you are talking about. Of course you could actually lookup this engagement and find out the info for yourself. Note how the video begins, in the middle of a high G turn. This is because its edited to exclude the initial position, where the Rafale is given advantage underneath and behind. From the go, he is chasing the Raptor. The video is over three minutes; the Raptor is visible for appx 18 sec total and *never* from behind. This is not by any stretch of the imagination, 'on his six oclock'(dont use words you dont understand, just because you think they sound cool). He does not declare FOX2, he complains "fuck... fox2", because his *opinion* is that he could've used a missile. He is however, wrong, because he was too close and in a hard turn; a missile would not have been able to make the turn at such close range. While too close for missiles, he was still out of gun range, so he had nothing there. Note that all but one time, the raptor appears from *behind* the turn. This is because the Raptor is out-turning him. He *never* at *any* point, gets a shot. The little box is not a 'lock', which you would know, if your knowledge reached beyond TV and poorly designed video games. That green line trailing the reticle(the box), is the ballistic solution, aka the bullet trajectory. Thats ehere the bullets go and to get a hit, that line must fit at least half of it inside the reticle, for at least 2 sec. No, no, no, you must be legitimately retarded if you think thats what ended the engagement. He was desperately trying to get a firing solution as the Raptor performed a hammerhead, turned 180° and came right back at him. It was after the Raptor got behind him, that he broke off the engagement, suddenly, right in the middle of a maneuver... because he.. got... smoked. This is three dimensional space, junior.
@craigdavidson4845
@craigdavidson4845 6 жыл бұрын
The Raphael is nothing to scoff at...that is a very DEADLY platform. The F22 program has never claimed the aircraft to be invincible. You win some, you lose some...the F22 was made to lose less than any other aircraft. Well done to the Frenchie!!!
@thorpauls
@thorpauls 5 жыл бұрын
Actually it is called Rafale not Rafael...
@marc9080
@marc9080 5 жыл бұрын
RAFALE !! RESPECT SVP !!
@wordsshackles441
@wordsshackles441 5 жыл бұрын
RA-FA-L --> 'A' as in 'ARM'. Also the 'E' at the end is silent. It means 'Burst of fire' in the military shooting sense and 'Gust' of wind in the meteorological sense.
@Ad___Astra
@Ad___Astra 5 жыл бұрын
@tfs2O3 who care
@sigma_frenchie4075
@sigma_frenchie4075 4 жыл бұрын
RAFALE. RAFALE GOD DAMMIT
@a753951852
@a753951852 5 жыл бұрын
Anddddd everybody's a tactical master warrior on this comment section.. 🤣
@rizwandiawalludien4048
@rizwandiawalludien4048 5 жыл бұрын
Is that even a surprise anymore?
@rms-vp6hf
@rms-vp6hf 5 жыл бұрын
My HUD kept pinging me “RELEASE KEYBOARD”
@mystiqueleague903
@mystiqueleague903 5 жыл бұрын
True..shit I read alot of useless comments..my head hurt. 🤕
@a753951852
@a753951852 5 жыл бұрын
I really don't care who won or lost, its an exercise, things are conducted in a controlled manner (maybe not decided, but managed).. The fact that these two pilots managed not to crash into each other is itself a testimony to their skills.. 😊🤙
@johnw5584
@johnw5584 5 жыл бұрын
I would have performed an inverted Split S, negative G, with a reverse Immelmann, at the end of the Loop. Or, Extended my variable geometrical wings, and slow down, and he would have flown right past me, then watch out for his jet wash, so I don't stall out, and have to bail.
@krish2142
@krish2142 2 жыл бұрын
Mann!! this video changed my whole views / scenarios of dog fight. Thanks man 🙌🏾🙂 u can feel the adrenaline rush in vid damnnn
@aztec0112
@aztec0112 5 жыл бұрын
One of the best videos I have ever seen depicting the desperate forces at work in A2A. Wow, I felt my own breath going away with each panting breath.
@springbloom5940
@springbloom5940 5 жыл бұрын
00:31 Tries to stuff his eyeball back in.
@edyson22
@edyson22 2 жыл бұрын
He started at 500 knots and was all the way down to 80kts. He did manage a Fox 2 snapshot that may or may not have tracked, but the authority in the slow speed regime was impressive.
@120mmsmoothbore2
@120mmsmoothbore2 5 жыл бұрын
"Wah wah Thrust Vectoring." "Wah wah it'd kill you before you saw it." If the F-22's so superior, can we give the Rafale props to the fact they beat the supposed best Air Superiority Fighter there is currently? Former F-14 Pilot of nearly a decades here and that Rafale pilot is definitely a skilled one I will say that much.
@AlfredPotterGuitar
@AlfredPotterGuitar 11 ай бұрын
No honor in BVR shots. Rafale wins
@Astania08
@Astania08 4 жыл бұрын
The body pressure must've been so painful.
@sammendez4693
@sammendez4693 4 жыл бұрын
so rafale can catch the f22 raptor its amazing so am happy for india they choosed rafale instead su35
@dhruv1019
@dhruv1019 4 жыл бұрын
I mean, we already have like 30-35 squadrons of Su-30Mk1. We needed air superiority in a different generation. Plus, we might just get them shiny Raptors some day or the other for a specific unit.
@breastmilkgaming
@breastmilkgaming 4 жыл бұрын
@@dhruv1019 lmao India isn't going to buy 5th gen at all , they're pouring money on the amca
@dhruv1019
@dhruv1019 4 жыл бұрын
@@breastmilkgaming that doesn't change the fact that we're capable of purchasing more 5th gen. The AMCA has been in talks for years now. Every country's got a plan for indie 6th gen r&d . What's your point?
@breastmilkgaming
@breastmilkgaming 4 жыл бұрын
@@dhruv1019 IAF strictly wants a 5th gen indigenous fighter , amca prototypes will be out by 2026 & only USA/UK are working on 6th gen afaik because they've that money and tech. "EvERy CouNtrY" hahaha lol finish your 10 th first kid lmao you used "as a fact" as if you were correct dunbass, IAF won't be buying su57/f35s www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=zeenews.india.com/india/iaf-not-looking-at-foreign-5th-generation-stealth-jets-or-36-more-rafales-to-go-for-indigenous-advanced-medium-combat-aircraft-2238449.html/amp&ved=2ahUKEwih2J6GiafqAhVTfSsKHSovDjQQFjABegQIDBAI&usg=AOvVaw31QQ344dnkKByoC2ZZntvE&ampcf=1 that's why they say half knowledge is dangerous
@dhruv1019
@dhruv1019 4 жыл бұрын
@@breastmilkgaming instead of using premature insults to save your crippling insecurities , re-read what I commented. I said "capable of purchasing" not going to purchase i.e. IN TALKS. Just like the amca program has been re-scheduled like 5 times since it was initiated in 2008. And you must obviously know the Tejas project was delayed by 20 years, right? Wtf do you think the ministry did erstwhile? Kept duct taping ancient Mig-21s? No, purchased sukhois and recently, to create a special squadron, Rafale. It's called having a backup plan, an idea you'd be able to even consider, if you were an adult (apparently not).
@WarbirdPhoenix
@WarbirdPhoenix 5 жыл бұрын
In the end,the fighters no matter how advanced they are until true AI becomes reality are just merely tools. The real weapons are the pilots.
@chrishansen456
@chrishansen456 5 жыл бұрын
True. Jet fighters can take a lot of force, the only limiting factor in combat is the pilot's ability to take g-forces. Imagine when there are jet fighters without pilot's, those things would be able to move like never before.
@aravindhks3785
@aravindhks3785 4 жыл бұрын
Man behind the machine is more important than the machine itself.
@SharkStrikeAC
@SharkStrikeAC 4 жыл бұрын
@@aravindhks3785 For now ...
@gamingrex2930
@gamingrex2930 3 жыл бұрын
@@aravindhks3785 For now, wait till you find AI piloted fighters turning at 30Gs. When that happens, the only limiting factor to how fast aircraft can go is material strength.
@spoopypoopy64
@spoopypoopy64 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I give it like a hundred years or maybe they somehow come up with technology to minimize the gs the pilots feel in the cockpit first
@malangi31
@malangi31 4 жыл бұрын
It's not the gun, its the man behind the gun....True Aviator knows his craft by heart and will always drag the opponent to his own favorable conditions....Dog fight really comes down to nerves and finger tips.....Beautiful
@shantanujain6376
@shantanujain6376 3 жыл бұрын
I can only imagine how proud these countries would be. To not just make their own aircraft, but all the tech from radars to cannon bullets that goes inside 1. Many good wishes to France and US.
@countercuIture
@countercuIture 2 жыл бұрын
Many good wishes to you as well. If only we didn't need these machines lol but nonetheless they're amazing
@gerry7man555
@gerry7man555 9 жыл бұрын
The F-22 pilot was probably afraid that the airframe would crack.
@GeneralWagner
@GeneralWagner 8 жыл бұрын
+gerry7man555 best comment ever
@f50koenigg
@f50koenigg 8 жыл бұрын
Its just that the rafale has much better sustain turn.
@marjusplaku15
@marjusplaku15 8 жыл бұрын
+f50koenigg F-22 driver gave up and went into the vertical after he made the frenchies work for it. props to them they hung in there and fought for it all the way. it was good all in good fun. i think in a realistic engagement, meaning no controlled merges, it would be over for the rafale before anything gets into a slow turning show.
@patriotsfan1236
@patriotsfan1236 5 жыл бұрын
what does that even mean...…… why would it crack?
@malefeetmalefeet105
@malefeetmalefeet105 5 жыл бұрын
@@patriotsfan1236 bcz rafale can and was built to handle more G's and it's better in sustained turn!
@baptbert043
@baptbert043 3 жыл бұрын
A French pilot in a rafale and nothing can resist us!
@fim-43redeye31
@fim-43redeye31 3 жыл бұрын
Both of these aircraft are incredible pieces of machinery. I can't say I know if their other technology is evenly matched, but they're DEFINITELY evenly matched in pilots and maneuverability. Good job on the AdA for winning this fight - speaks to their equipment and pilots both.
@thefightingswallow7613
@thefightingswallow7613 2 жыл бұрын
If a Rafale is on your 6 your ducked usually lol, but the F-22 is designed to nit have to dogfight, and should destroy the enemy from far away. The F-22 is capable in a Digfight, but almost nothing touches a Rafale
@fim-43redeye31
@fim-43redeye31 2 жыл бұрын
@@thefightingswallow7613 Sounds about right. They're both supermaneuverable, though, aren't they? How much can we know about their relative performance without actual flight data figures?
@thefightingswallow7613
@thefightingswallow7613 2 жыл бұрын
@@fim-43redeye31 We don't know they're true figures, but because if design we can make a solid assumption. The Rafale, having Delta wing configuration, will be more maneuverable because it has better AoA, however it can't win in a rate fight because the Delta wing burns energy like a mf. The Raptor is very maneuverable, but it just can't stand up to the Rafale in this situation. Maybe, if the Rafale pilot wasn't thinking straight, the Raptor would win
@thefightingswallow7613
@thefightingswallow7613 2 жыл бұрын
If boh were on the deck rate fighting the raptor would probably ein because it has better energy. The Rafale, at altitude, can dump it's nose and make up energy by using altitude.
@fim-43redeye31
@fim-43redeye31 2 жыл бұрын
@@thefightingswallow7613 Makes sense. I guess a Rafale can just turn if it's going fast enough and put its nose on pretty much anything, that makes life easy- thanks for the explanation
@mattblackbeard
@mattblackbeard 3 жыл бұрын
The rafale pilot is really skillful locking a fighter like f22 which got thrust verctoring is a big deal I must say.
@nasseralkhelaifi1853
@nasseralkhelaifi1853 2 жыл бұрын
Rafale is twice lighter, so it has a better maneuverability at low speed and can more easily stay behind an enemy. It’s not bad for the rafale since it’s considered as a multirole aircraft
@superfast30
@superfast30 2 жыл бұрын
The mental fortitude and stamina required to pilot these aircraft in a full combat situations is incredible!
@hamzayasir1901
@hamzayasir1901 3 жыл бұрын
The rafale can't beat the raptor,but man,respect for this pilot for tracking the aircraft like that,the pilots got some sick skills Salute from pakistan
@trespire
@trespire 5 жыл бұрын
Dessault build some potent jets. We won in '67 decimating 3 opposing airforces using French Mirrage as multirole & Vautour bombers. The French have some good kit.
@jajasmile4473
@jajasmile4473 5 жыл бұрын
trespire the f22 kill zone is above 60K feet where it can out run out maneuver any attacking warplanes . The F22 wouldn't be used like a F-15 or F-16 in war time that is where everyone keeps getting it wrong .
@pioline741
@pioline741 3 жыл бұрын
since this victory the Rafales are no longer invited to the red flag.
@darugdawg2453
@darugdawg2453 3 жыл бұрын
idk. modern air combat is not ww2. you fire your missiles at long range. this is only a test whether the modern jet can shake off a bogey from 6 close range which would be low probability since you dont engage in close fighting if youre american
@Kiba69420
@Kiba69420 3 жыл бұрын
@@darugdawg2453 Yuh, as i just explained to someone above somewhere... This is like comparing an Israeli Uzi to a 416 Cheytech Intervention. The Rafale is VERY agile and can manouver at very slow speeds without stalling, but in that, the jet is fairly slow itself... pushing Mach 1.8 max. The F-22 is not a dog fighter, its an Interdiction fighter. They knew exactly what you stated back when they made this and even before back during Korea/Vietnam. They even made jets at that time with JUST missiles because the tech was just so good at the time that they didnt think they would even need to dogfight. Though, those situations do come up when you are low and slow doing patrols or attacking ground targets. The F-22 was designed at absolute max range engagements. Their speed is nearing a blackbird, classified but theoretical max is somewhere around Mach 2.5-2.8. With its AIMS and AMRAMs and extremely advanced targeting systems, it has a combat range of (now more than) over 500 miles. Thats from Kansas City, MO to right near Denver, CO. Hundreds of miles outside of visual range. Having to rely on radar vs a stealth aircraft that can give you the bad touch from 500+ miles away is a big gigantic nope. Your only options are to go into strong defensive actions as soon as you hear the AMRAMs locking you, flee before that happens... or splash down. In a real world combat situation anyway. In a situation like we just watched, we can see that the Rafale is very agile and an extremely good dogfighter, match that with an amazing pilot and you have a splashed F-22. But this situation would never happen.
@Kiba69420
@Kiba69420 3 жыл бұрын
@@darugdawg2453 Yuh, as i just explained to someone above somewhere... This is like comparing an Israeli Uzi to a 416 Cheytech Intervention. The Rafale is VERY agile and can manouver at very slow speeds without stalling, but in that, the jet is fairly slow itself... pushing Mach 1.8 max. The F-22 is not a dog fighter, its an Interdiction fighter. They knew exactly what you stated back when they made this and even before back during Korea/Vietnam. They even made jets at that time with JUST missiles because the tech was just so good at the time that they didnt think they would even need to dogfight. Though, those situations do come up when you are low and slow doing patrols or attacking ground targets. The F-22 was designed at absolute max range engagements. Their speed is nearing a blackbird, classified but theoretical max is somewhere around Mach 2.5-2.8. With its AIMS and AMRAMs and extremely advanced targeting systems, it has a combat range of (now more than) over 500 miles. Thats from Kansas City, MO to right near Denver, CO. Hundreds of miles outside of visual range. Having to rely on radar vs a stealth aircraft that can give you the bad touch from 500+ miles away is a big gigantic nope. Your only options are to go into strong defensive actions as soon as you hear the AMRAMs locking you, flee before that happens... or splash down. In a real world combat situation anyway. In a situation like we just watched, we can see that the Rafale is very agile and an extremely good dogfighter, match that with an amazing pilot and you have a splashed F-22. But this situation would never happen.
@dozo1211
@dozo1211 2 жыл бұрын
holy shit, the man struggling to breathe hit me so much. What a thrill. It reminds us that winning comes at a cost
@gandigooglegandigoogle7202
@gandigooglegandigoogle7202 2 жыл бұрын
the French pilots are really good, it is true that the Rafale is an incredible combat aircraft.
@Demidar
@Demidar 3 жыл бұрын
they never shoot eachother, ive never seen a video like this with visual kills, are there any ?
@HellenicCosmos1821
@HellenicCosmos1821 3 жыл бұрын
Happy that Greece have France as an ally and true friend 🇬🇷🇫🇷
@dr.ivorobotnik1343
@dr.ivorobotnik1343 5 жыл бұрын
It's a good thing we have these training exercises to correct our pilot's errors and make sure they come out victorious in a real fight
@Getfuckeddude
@Getfuckeddude 5 жыл бұрын
Damnit.... now I wanna play Ace Combat!
@mayer492
@mayer492 5 жыл бұрын
Play dcs
@FRGBlackBurn
@FRGBlackBurn 5 жыл бұрын
Play both
@cerradin
@cerradin 5 жыл бұрын
Fuck simulators and fuck tryhards Just play ace combat and have fun You might even try hawk aswell
@kachungchan4077
@kachungchan4077 5 жыл бұрын
I mean if u want arcade, go for ace combat. If you want simulation, go for DCS. There's no better one, just follow your love.
@abdullahnasir2462
@abdullahnasir2462 5 жыл бұрын
It is easy to play on ps4 but hard to fly in real life you have an enemy at your target and due to g force you sare passing out to have to controll both
@jakesigalmix
@jakesigalmix 3 жыл бұрын
That was incredible, if you know what your looking at you can follow as he changes acquisition modes and attempts to lock back up for the radar gun sight.
@ajspice
@ajspice 2 жыл бұрын
What's the purpose of the little trail line coming from the center of the HUD? Does it help with orientation or something?
@edouardmontfort7816
@edouardmontfort7816 2 жыл бұрын
Question for historians...HUD, radar, sensors, missile system...everything has been changed since then...
@ajspice
@ajspice 2 жыл бұрын
@@edouardmontfort7816 Ok. Well unless you are an aviation historian, your comment offers very little, if any help.
@rafale-f3r754
@rafale-f3r754 10 жыл бұрын
the rafale is ONE best of the world with the F22 , RAFALE WITH F22 the dream team !!! it's why the allied work together , and this file has showed when the french and US technologies work together it's very fearsome , and the USAF recognised the RAFALE is a GOOD stealth jet .
@CH-px5vt
@CH-px5vt 4 жыл бұрын
Well the Rafale has very minimal stealth capabilities so I wouldn’t say that’s what it’s good at. It’s clearly a good dog fighter though and that f-22 pilot got “out-piloted” on this one. F-22 is still probably the superior machine but I’d put the rafale up there with the su-35s and the typhoon as being a half step back but still being a fantastic fighter jet.
@kunaljain3196
@kunaljain3196 4 жыл бұрын
@@CH-px5vt another american expert pilot.. f-22 superior blah blah blah..
@Cleans.Your.Faah.
@Cleans.Your.Faah. 3 жыл бұрын
@@kunaljain3196 another hater with a country who cant create either one of these machines without outside help. Keep up the strategy of blowing yourselves up with home made pipe bombs. You just make it to easy
@kunaljain3196
@kunaljain3196 3 жыл бұрын
@@Cleans.Your.Faah. we dnt make ied's and pipe bomb we made brahmos.. idiot.. oh how will u know except a few rest of u just eat hamburgers and break your chairs
@j1qqlydixkurayami72
@j1qqlydixkurayami72 3 жыл бұрын
Sceptic Fungi that’s literally all u got when the facts where brought out the Raptor went 6-1-5 Rafael went 1-6-5
@firstnamecancellastnamedon704
@firstnamecancellastnamedon704 5 жыл бұрын
So.... Everyone in the comment section arguing which is the better machine. Though the fact that machines are just machines but its capability only matters who's its "PILOT".
@CharlieBrown-fy3zy
@CharlieBrown-fy3zy 5 жыл бұрын
Firstname CANCEL Lastname DONE there are lots of systems and classified targeted systems that will lock without the pilots input
@viruspter1dactl
@viruspter1dactl 4 жыл бұрын
Ok goddamit you need to have the right pilot with the right machine it's not just the pilot or machine right pilot with right machine not just one
@Jaden48108
@Jaden48108 4 жыл бұрын
This engagement is unlikely to occur in reality. The F-22 pilot will see the Rafale on radar long before the Rafale sees him. I'm sure this was an engagement to test the maneuverability of each aircraft.
@firstnamecancellastnamedon704
@firstnamecancellastnamedon704 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jaden48108 Got a point there.
@cheyennereynoso4116
@cheyennereynoso4116 2 жыл бұрын
That had ME breathing hard. I could feel the adrenaline. Amazing.
@davidwhiteley3879
@davidwhiteley3879 3 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what the ground rules for the BFM were? I can't tell from the video what the setup was. Typically perch setups are flown where one pilot starts with an altitude advantage and at the defender's six o'clock position. Also, as regards the missile lock, BFM's are typically guns only. In addition, there are plenty of other ground rules that could have affected the outcome. The F-22 could have been artificially G-limited, artificially power limited, artifically maneuver limited, artificially altitude limited. Typically when reviewing the HUD tapes after a training exercise, both HUD films are synced and then analyzed together with both pilots at the debrief. It would have been interesting to have seen the F-22 HUD tape as well synced up. Also, typically at least 2-3 BFM's are flown in a mission. Did the F-22 win the other BFM's, or perhaps the Rafale won every engagement?
@FoxWithTheAngels
@FoxWithTheAngels 9 ай бұрын
Honestly bro, I got no idea. For all I know it could've been simulating a lesser aircraft, or could've been training, a red flag fight. I generally don't know though what it was.
@beatboxbuggi6884
@beatboxbuggi6884 3 жыл бұрын
Like I always say: pilots should wear gopros more often. It’s amazing to see the world’s top gun engage eachother, even if it’s just a simulation
@diwakarm7045
@diwakarm7045 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the software uses a combination of Big data , Machine learning and AI for predictive analytics to identify patterns of jet movement or may be, I am just shooting from the hip. Kudos to these pilots for the G forces they have to endure while manoeuvring the jets. Rafale being 2/3rd of F22 is super agile as expected but if it's BVR, Rafale will chasing a ghost while F22 will see Rafale as clear as daylight.
@CaptainXanax
@CaptainXanax 2 жыл бұрын
The Growling Sidewinder channel has a few videos of a Canadian Rafale pilot having a few simulated dogfights. Definitely worth watching and hearing his commentary.
@SteelOnyxYT
@SteelOnyxYT 3 жыл бұрын
Man is takin more then my battlefield 4 pilot did his whole 45 second career props to that badass
@tone1132
@tone1132 4 жыл бұрын
these aviators are amazing! imagine sprinting while flying a plane in a dog fight...... amazing!
@user-go8um7mf3p
@user-go8um7mf3p 4 жыл бұрын
It's really cool. Respect from Russia
@kaoru20ful
@kaoru20ful 4 жыл бұрын
so whats the reason that lead to this dog fight scenario? im kinda curious.
@TheDazzler420
@TheDazzler420 2 жыл бұрын
Is there any video of Su, or Mi or even ill Cockpit fight view?
@nickomplejo
@nickomplejo 6 жыл бұрын
This exercise was a dogfight only using air to air and gun. What is relevant, is that the F-22 is just and air to air superiority combat fighter and the Rafale C F3 is a multirole aircraft not designed specifically for air superiority. The surprise was that the F-22 could not get the Rafale out of its tail and was finally shot down both by gun and targeted missile. Unfairly, an USAF officer said that the F-22 was carrying its fuel tanks and that reduced its maneuver capability: that's why this video was "leaked".
@gringologie9302
@gringologie9302 5 жыл бұрын
+1
@user-nf7lg8zb5k
@user-nf7lg8zb5k 5 жыл бұрын
tu sais pas de quoi tu parles, kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mp5ojMWApr-xXZs.html le rafale est le plus complet au monde mais mange rivalise aussi en chasse pur avec le f22
@ciscomars
@ciscomars 5 жыл бұрын
@@user-nf7lg8zb5k Le SU-35 est redoutable en dogfight
@doc7000
@doc7000 5 жыл бұрын
While the euro fighter and Rafale are designated multi role air craft this really comes down to the fact that smaller nations do not have the budget to have an ASF and a work horse/ multi role plane. So their ASF has to do the multi role work as well, not to mention that the F-22 can do strike missions as well so it isn't limited to just air superiority. I have read that planes like the Euro fighter Typhoon and Rafale are 50/50 in close combat against the F-22, where the F-22 is suppose to shine is in BVR combat though there are methods and tactics to defeat its stealth advantage.
@leneanderthalien
@leneanderthalien 5 жыл бұрын
the standard F22 NEVER use external tank, so this is all lies...
@saurabhsawant6487
@saurabhsawant6487 4 жыл бұрын
That pilot most be pulling hell of Gs . We could literally listen him breathing to avoid knocking off
@saurabhsawant6487
@saurabhsawant6487 4 жыл бұрын
@Ali Mohsin how there will be difference in stress for G force ? Whatever may be the machine forces applied for a speed and direction have to be same no ?
@gnomish844
@gnomish844 4 жыл бұрын
@@saurabhsawant6487 -- Seat angle and position. Although you'll be pulling the same G-forces, you can experience them differently. The F-16 notably changed the standard seat-back angle from 13 degrees to 30 degrees for comfort/g-tolerances. Think of driving up a steep grade and a shallow grade hill. Shallow grade it's easier to keep your speed up and less taxing on the engine. How this translates to seat angles -- the big thing you're trying to do is keep blood flowing to your head. If you're sitting straight up and you have forces pushing straight down, and blood's being pushed straight up, the forces have to directly counteract each other. But, if the blood's being pushed up at an angle, and the forces are still pushing straight down, there's less force needed to keep it going up. Your heart (the engine in this metaphor) doesn't need to push out as much force to keep going up that hill.
@saurabhsawant6487
@saurabhsawant6487 4 жыл бұрын
@@gnomish844 I thought g suites are for keeping the blood flow pushed up. Thanks for information. Not sure if I followed all of it , will need more understanding and reading from my side. Cheers.
@gnomish844
@gnomish844 4 жыл бұрын
@@saurabhsawant6487 -- G suits do help, too, but only so much. But they operate on the same idea -- keep blood to the brain. Everything you do to keep that happening allows you to pull more G's. Think of it this way, if you had 2 feet of tubing, would it be easier to get the water to the end if you were pushing it straight up, or if it was flat? Flat, right, since you're not working against gravity? Everything in between that 0 (flat) and 90 degrees (straight up) will get progressively more difficult, but will be *most* difficult at 90 degrees.
@saurabhsawant6487
@saurabhsawant6487 4 жыл бұрын
@@gnomish844 so I am guessing the seat changes angles as angle of attack and speed of the plane changes while positive or negative Gs?
@appa609
@appa609 3 жыл бұрын
I want to know if this is the actual video quality they recorded or if they intentionally compressed it before public release so we can't read the HUD... resolution is crap.
@0612Devil
@0612Devil 5 жыл бұрын
How many BVR shots did the -22 take prior to the merge. Also why is the Rafale HUD symbology in english?
@docducttape9270
@docducttape9270 5 жыл бұрын
It's just training, the French pilot is just trying to follow.
@L3_FR
@L3_FR 5 жыл бұрын
SMAKS EM SILLIFIED what kind of mental gymnastic do you have to go trough to really think that? Unbelieveable.
@Trance681
@Trance681 11 жыл бұрын
Nope i just added a music. I'll give the original link (:
@siddarthd9774
@siddarthd9774 4 жыл бұрын
Hi
@BeanDar
@BeanDar 3 жыл бұрын
Hi
@yinyangxperience5137
@yinyangxperience5137 8 жыл бұрын
Out of 112 air to air combats. 80% did not detect the missle destroying it. This was from a study in the 1980's. Close combat in air to air scenarios are very rare. No more Top Gun guys. While this is fun for pilots its not reality anymore.
@davidca96
@davidca96 Жыл бұрын
Listen to that French pilot, taking his body to the edge, what a beautiful display of skill.
@janwelcyagustin927
@janwelcyagustin927 2 жыл бұрын
That was some intense combat! Well, planes are not invincible nor invisible. In the end, the difference in pilots' abilities and experience will be the deciding factor...
@JJbullfrog1978
@JJbullfrog1978 5 жыл бұрын
For 1 it's not really a dogfight, they are put in a specific situation, and it's all about training for the French pilot. He's supposed to be chasing the F22. The F22 is literally just trying to evade, not engage
@RaveSharrma
@RaveSharrma 5 жыл бұрын
I guess most people know that
@docducttape9270
@docducttape9270 5 жыл бұрын
@@RaveSharrma Have you read the comments?
@RaveSharrma
@RaveSharrma 5 жыл бұрын
@@docducttape9270 those who know doesnt comment 😁
@nelsoncheng2674
@nelsoncheng2674 5 жыл бұрын
JJbullfrog1978 I suppose the F22 failed evading in a miserable way, maybe it was a training to train the F22 pilots how to evade.
@NBAasDOGG
@NBAasDOGG 5 жыл бұрын
Bullshit, stop trying to change reality by mentioning something that you cannot provide evidence for!
@MajesticDemonLord
@MajesticDemonLord 5 жыл бұрын
Wow - DCS is looking great!
@pilout8637
@pilout8637 4 жыл бұрын
Overrated type of comment and it doesn’t even work in this case exept if you play dcs under windows 1...
@axlrozes1777
@axlrozes1777 2 жыл бұрын
that breathing is intense this must be the ultimate adrenaline rush holy hell
@bidybidybu
@bidybidybu 2 жыл бұрын
is there a g-force indicator on the hud?
@johndoe-cd9vt
@johndoe-cd9vt Жыл бұрын
yes "G"
@googlebhai7529
@googlebhai7529 3 жыл бұрын
Wow 🤯 🙏 If I were there, I would have died from GeForce instead of enemy aircraft . Fighter pilots are awesome , they are most amazing species on this earth .
@outwithjohn7038
@outwithjohn7038 3 жыл бұрын
Damn this is one intense simulated dogfight.
@NATObait
@NATObait 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone know how many g the Rafale was pulling as it looks poor quality VHS tape?
@juansada8609
@juansada8609 2 жыл бұрын
Being combat pilot it's so demanding. I respect them more from now on. I salute you brave guys.
@mario_uzumaki
@mario_uzumaki 4 жыл бұрын
the intensity of G-force.. it needs a good stamina and full consentration. especially in real combat, when your life at stake
@VV-xg5ci
@VV-xg5ci 5 жыл бұрын
This happened 6 years ago and the raptor fanboys are still in denial😂😂
@gringologie9302
@gringologie9302 5 жыл бұрын
And that was the rafale f2. Now we have f3r ; f4 planing for 2025.
@digantanilkhasnobis4901
@digantanilkhasnobis4901 5 жыл бұрын
@@gringologie9302 We Indians are going to get f3 soon.....Thank You France for this deadly weapon....Merci
@Youda00008
@Youda00008 5 жыл бұрын
No, kids who think 1 dogfighting exercise result means anything serious about the plane are in denial.
@VV-xg5ci
@VV-xg5ci 5 жыл бұрын
@@Youda00008 Cry a little louder😂😂
@MetaliCanuck
@MetaliCanuck 4 жыл бұрын
@@VV-xg5ci If you knew anything you would know that F22 has signature pods aka RCS pods on it for Nato training purposes. It increases its RCS. Reality! Denial is any clown thinking the Rafale will get a hud cue on a F22 without a RCS pod. Educate yourselves. All you armchair fighter pilots are hilarious!
@alexanderbam69
@alexanderbam69 4 жыл бұрын
Who is fighting who In this dogfight ? I know one pilot is French but what about the other one ?
@hattorihanzo8385
@hattorihanzo8385 3 жыл бұрын
Forget the close combat dogfights, how does the Rafael fare against the F22 in stealth mode though?
@herewego2788
@herewego2788 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. My respect to both pilots.
@CephasPrashanth
@CephasPrashanth 5 жыл бұрын
Looks and sounds like Darth Vader's nostril holes in his mask.
@oligoyoutube
@oligoyoutube 5 жыл бұрын
Cephas Prashanth ever experience hard Gs?
@AloneMusk211
@AloneMusk211 4 жыл бұрын
So the dog fights are not same like those movies. It's breathtaking😯😯😯
@halec3861
@halec3861 3 жыл бұрын
This is the coolest real dogfight ever seen !! Thanks for it!
@wulfbooy
@wulfbooy 10 жыл бұрын
In my opinion they are both equally amazing aircraft and i find this dogfight like a boxing match between two of the worlds greatest fighters. While both have there advantages and disadvantages its still anyone's game, just because the rafale was able to beat the raptor in this simulation does not make it a better fighter just a plane, under the right pilot, that can get the job done in this scenario, but that doesn't mean the 22 couldn't win if they had a rematch.
@kevinh3979
@kevinh3979 5 жыл бұрын
amazing but not equal. The F-22 is at another class.
@AlphaPackBoi
@AlphaPackBoi 5 жыл бұрын
this was only one round out of several. there were ties and even wins for the f-22..the jury is out on this one.
@malefeetmalefeet105
@malefeetmalefeet105 5 жыл бұрын
In dogfight yes the rafale will have the best ratio bcz of better aérodynamic,better turn and more agile in this type of scenario
@USN1985dos
@USN1985dos 4 жыл бұрын
@@malefeetmalefeet105 Actually, no. This was from a series of training engagements conducted in the UAE between UAE Rafales, French Rafales, British Typhoons and USAF Raptors. Of the 12 F-22 vs Rafale engagments, 6 resulted in F-22 victories, 5 in draws, and 1 in a Rafale victory. Despite that, the French ministry of defense released this gun camera footage to tout the capabilities of their jets without mentioning that A, it was a UAE pilot that achieved this victory, and B, that it won one, but lost six.
@malefeetmalefeet105
@malefeetmalefeet105 4 жыл бұрын
@@USN1985dos no my friend! The report says it was a draw with rafale and f22 winning and loosing equaly. The question is not there, but in the fact that the f22 is supposed to not be threatned in such situation and avoid it easly! But in reality poeple realize that a rafale or typhoon can take down an arplain supposed to be more powerfull and manoevrable, and what it would be if it has to face a stronger opponent such as a su35???
@talesforkids8886
@talesforkids8886 4 жыл бұрын
That breathlessness is scary Salute to all fighter jets
@chr0min0id
@chr0min0id 2 жыл бұрын
Expectations: **epic jet sounds** Reality: *”The fitnessgram pacer test...”*
@immediamalcoccinello483
@immediamalcoccinello483 5 жыл бұрын
Can't stop watching this
@kyokushinnomika729
@kyokushinnomika729 9 жыл бұрын
Les g qu'il encaisse c'est violent!! Il est en souffrance mais il arrive quand même à piloter avec autant de précision respect
@fabienbourdier9847
@fabienbourdier9847 7 жыл бұрын
des athlètes les gars !! jserais mort 46 fois en faisant ca hahaha
@qwicxs
@qwicxs 5 жыл бұрын
These pilots are so awesome like fight 2000 lbs Marlin in 30 seconds love both Aircraft
@MoonlitEmbers010
@MoonlitEmbers010 11 ай бұрын
so what was the goal? to score hits or keep him in hit range for x time?
@MoonlitEmbers010
@MoonlitEmbers010 11 ай бұрын
@BrokenSociety966 thanks
@robertodandrea5924
@robertodandrea5924 2 жыл бұрын
Impresionante😮 las maniobras y fuerzas G.
@TheRedRaven_
@TheRedRaven_ 5 жыл бұрын
Those vectoring thrusters were killing that man, lol.
@gringologie9302
@gringologie9302 5 жыл бұрын
Rafale dont have vectoring
@TheRedRaven_
@TheRedRaven_ 5 жыл бұрын
Thibault Papin no shit I’m talking about the F-22.
@fleisbester612
@fleisbester612 4 жыл бұрын
Rafale Canards helped a lot...
@LRRPFco52
@LRRPFco52 4 жыл бұрын
In Basic Fighter Maneuvers, both sides agree to several different set-ups throughout the sortie. These include neutral merges from the front at the same altitude with lateral separation so they don't have a mid-air collision, butterfly, line abreast, altitude separation with frontal quadrant merges, and rear perch for defensive training by the guy below and and in front. We don't know which one of those BFM set-ups is from, but with every type of fighter the Raptor units have done this against, they have always been very dominant against any contenders. A less experienced but solid Raptor pilot has some real advantages against a more experienced pilot in a Rafale or Typhoon to an extent in BFM, because of the Raptor's nose authority and excess thrust. Normally, the Rafale and Typhoon pilots will have their aircraft stripped down of any external stores or suspension equipment that is essential for combat so that they can get their thrust-to-weight ratio comparable to the F-22's, but they still will always lack the nose authority of the Raptor and its thrust vectoring ability to crank on them when they thought they were dominant. In reality, they will never see it coming in a true air campaign, and are extremely happy to be allied with the US, rather than having to face this as enemies.
@SteveIsHavingMC
@SteveIsHavingMC 2 жыл бұрын
americans fold to anything that isnt absolute stone age tier, your cold war tech isnt doing shit to actual modern equipment
@gordrilla
@gordrilla Жыл бұрын
Fragile ego detected...
@wallow4210
@wallow4210 Жыл бұрын
@@SteveIsHavingMC Let's look at US aircraft K/D ratios compared to adversaries lmao
@1019nothing
@1019nothing 4 жыл бұрын
Is this from the f22 prospective? The HUD is in english.
@biboy1266
@biboy1266 3 жыл бұрын
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