F. Chopin - Etude Op. 25 no. 7 in C sharp minor - analysis

F. Chopin - Etude Op. 25 no. 7 in C sharp minor - analysis - Greg Niemczuk's lecture, tutorial

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@kriswiwatowski4697 4 ай бұрын

Out of all Chopin's Etudes, I like this one the most because of its enormous emotional depth. Until now it was purely intuitive but learning about Norma and Chopin's identification with the libretto, I understand why. Will try to play faster, although slower tempo brings to me deeper and more suspended emotion. Big thank you Greg for your thorough and sensitive analysis. Bardzo dziekuje Panie Grzegorzu.

@ElieElKhoury19 2 жыл бұрын

Greg, I can't thank you enough for this video and all your videos in general. The knowledge that you're giving out for free, the way you present it, your performance, and your vulnerability... all of it leaves me in awe and I'm very very grateful to have stumbled upon this channel. You're a great inspiration. Thank you!

@gregniemczuk 2 жыл бұрын

I'm so touched reading this comment.... Thank you!

@NN-rn1oz 2 жыл бұрын

I knew about the betrayal he felt when Maria Wodzińska rejected him because they were engaged at one point. But I did not know he also felt betrayed when Konstancja got married in 1832. Poor Chopin was not happy in his love life! There were so many women who wanted to be with him, but the ones he loved he could not be with.

@gregniemczuk 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly!! He was oversensitive... But he expressed himself in music!

@anastasialudwika 2 жыл бұрын

I still remember when I noticed similarities in Chopin's music and belcanto operas for the first time. It was the very first phrase of Nocturne Op.32 No.1 that somehow reminded me of "Potria novel vigore" part/phrase of Amina's aria "Ah, non credea mirarti" (La Sonnambula, Bellini) that I was learning at that time. I don't know, whether this very similarity has some real ground, but it was a reason I got deeper into Chopin's fascination with belcanto music, because the only example I knew before was his reference to La Gazza Ladra. Thank you ever so much for all your videos!!! ❤👏🏻💐

@cbodien 4 ай бұрын

Thank you so much!

@sqwndw6430 2 жыл бұрын

For one moment the ending gave me the impression that it would be in major... but one bar later that impression shattered, and I knew this had to be Chopin :( There's something so tragic in this piece that is almost unparalleled in all of music. Thank you for your analysis!

@emj0nes 2 жыл бұрын

Fascinating study of rapturous emotion... just incredible

@christophejavon3509 2 жыл бұрын

Wow!!! What a journey. Absolutely beautiful and profound, thank you 🙏 😊

@qsa2k584 4 ай бұрын

Just started studying this etude in my undergrad. Thank you so much for your insights!! I have so much clarity now towards how to approach it

@gregniemczuk 4 ай бұрын

Good luck with that!

@christophernorman8127 11 ай бұрын

Fantastic playing and analysis of one of Chopin’s most profound creations…..

@chowkammoonckm82 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for telling us the story behind the music. Love this etude which is extremely beautiful!! Full of deep sadness! How Chopin used the E flat major scale to construct the long scary virtuoso wave for left-hand was a magic!

@dyezbemol 10 ай бұрын

Many, many thanks for this from a musician in the Indian Ocean, Greg. Your passion and love for what you share is so sincere, so communicative that I was greatly inspired by it. You are so generous to have shared your understanding, knowledge, analysis, curiosity and sheer joy with us. Thank you again.

@winfriedg.hallerbach6249 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for uncovering these unexpected treasures in this Etude, Greg ! You delivered a deeply touching performance. I never liked it, as slow as other pianists play it, but you revealed its true beauty. And the link with Norma…. Now I’ll always hear Callas in the background !

@mickizurcher 2 жыл бұрын

What bliss! Today I looked at this for the first time, I usually do a little sight reading before getting into my pieces and I noted that I had starred*** this a long time ago and when I tried to play it this morning I didnt make good sense of it and then I saw your video tonight and I was just floored. You surpass yourself every day. Thank you for this! 😭

@gregniemczuk 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!! Good luck with this!

@MrOlogramma Жыл бұрын

Chopin we love you ❤

@wendywong3871 2 жыл бұрын

My heart just broke. I can feel the pain of unrequited love. Appreciate your reference to JS Bach's Fugue and the Belcanto style of this etude and reference to Bellini's Norma.

@lindaweedmark6025 2 жыл бұрын

It was Bellini's Norma.

@wendywong3871 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the correction yes, its Bellini's Norma

@gregniemczuk 2 жыл бұрын

Dear Wendy, thank you so much. It means a lot to me!

@wendywong3871 2 жыл бұрын

The Bel Canto style was very apparent in the second movement of his Piano Concerto in E Minor. Just like an Aria.

@ewa5880 2 жыл бұрын

ogromne dzięki za te wspaniale lekcje i emocje ,które pan przekazuje rozumiejąc Chopina poprzez jego utwory...szczególnie wpadają mi NOKTURNY do serca ...nie wiem dlaczego... mam taki , który zalega tak głęboko , że nie potrafię tego zrozumieć i jest - jak się zorientowałam - prawie niezauważany ....czekam na omówienie go przez Pana ...dziękuję... zobaczymy czy się doczekam ...wtedy napiszę, który to JEST ...dziękuję.

@gregniemczuk 2 жыл бұрын

Wydaje mi się, że wszystkie Nokturny zostały omówione.... Nawet pośmiertne....

@jfpary7336 2 жыл бұрын

Fabulous... nothing more to say.

@gregniemczuk 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@Pablorubenmaldonado Жыл бұрын

amzing!!! ole tú!!!!

@gregniemczuk Жыл бұрын

Gracias!

@Nick215NY 2 жыл бұрын

Greg....Guiomar Novaes in her beautiful 1958 recordings of the Etudes plays this Etude at approximately this tempo. Maybe a TINY bit slower at times, but basically the same. Thank you for all these beautiful videos. Nick

@gregniemczuk 2 жыл бұрын

Wow!!! Thank you for that! Amazing!

@erikvaros Жыл бұрын

Chopins tempo really gives me goosebumps

@gregniemczuk Жыл бұрын

It does!!!!

@chris93703 Жыл бұрын

@@gregniemczuk Just curious but have you played any of Chopin's music on pianos from Chopin's time period before the year 1850? Are they easier to play or are they harder to play? Does the music sound much more different than a modern piano assuming the piano has been correctly restored with the right type of felt or similar type of felt on the hammers?

@gregniemczuk Жыл бұрын

@@chris93703 I did. I don't like it. It doesn't sound well. Even the best restored piano sounds like an old and used piano out of tune. This is certainly not how Chopin heard his music back in the first half of the XVIII century when those pianos were new....

@chris93703 Жыл бұрын

@@gregniemczuk Some of the pianos I have listened to on KZfaq don't sound that well but there have been others that sounded OK. Do you think Chopin's pieces would sound better on a modern piano if the piano is tuned to unequal temperament? I have listened to modern pianos tuned to unequal temperament but I have a hard time telling the difference but maybe it is just the speakers I am using. I always suspect when I hear music from a composer like Chopin played on a modern piano that I may be missing something that can only be heard if the piece is played on an instrument from that time period. Weren't the pianos from that time period tuned in unequal temperament?

@gregniemczuk Жыл бұрын

@@chris93703 that's a difficult topic. To be honest I don't have a perfect pitch, so for me the difference is not that big. You should ask somebody with a perfect pitch

@wl1651 Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! Regarding that quote from Norma, I suspect that Chopin was also mourning Bellini's recent death (Sep 1835), just like the heart-breaking variation he contributed to Liszt's Hexameron, based on Bellini's aria Suoni la tromba from I Puritani. They were very good friends, soul brothers really.

@gregniemczuk Жыл бұрын

Yes, I think so too!

@jenskluge7188 2 жыл бұрын

I am very interested in your comments about this etude. It's the only one I didn't really look at. Not because I don't like it but because I feel scared about the tiny notes. Yes, one can approximately subdivide them so that they fall together with the right hand, and this way it *can* be practiced successfully. This intermediated step would just destroy the mood for the player for a while. Not a problem for the listener though, who just wants to enjoy the drama of these schemeless ghosts in the left hand or whatever you imagine that it could be. Oh, and there is another fff right smack in the middle of the score. Who said btw Chopin never wrote fff?

@lewislee9201 2 жыл бұрын

This video is a treasure trove of information and insights. Thank-you for freely sharing your expertise with the world. The connection with Norma was a revelation. On a practical note, the volume of your video is a bit too low for me. To hear you properly I have to turn the sound up so high that when the ads come up the sound is deafeningly loud.

@gregniemczuk 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your comment! Sorry for the sound. It's a big challenge for me to adjust the sound so that my speaking is loud enough and my playing not too loud ...

@adamhammoud1496 8 күн бұрын

Greg I have just recently discovered your treasure of a channel after I was looking for advice on Op10 n° 9 as I just finished learning it last week. What is you're opinion on Maurizio Pollinis interpretations of the études, specifically this one? Thank you for all you're hard work.

@vex9896 9 ай бұрын

Amazing and touching video as always! Can you recommend any specific recording of this piece that you enjoy?

@gregniemczuk 9 ай бұрын

Try to find Murray Perahia

@emj0nes Жыл бұрын

@Gregniemczuk, watching and learning again.. I note that Horowitz emphasizes the chord at 4mins in (1:07:37 here) much louder than most and I must say it seems to fit the emotion of the piece. Have you heard his interpretation? and I am curious on your thoughts? He just seems to break the listener with a loud shriek of pain that I do not hear from other performances...

@gregniemczuk Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Yes, I love it! I just listened to him again. I think it's exactly what Chopin wanted to achieve!

@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji 11 ай бұрын

50:19 is also similar to the middle section of polonaise fantasie

@gregniemczuk 11 ай бұрын

It is similarly written but melodies are different

@kriswiwatowski4697 4 ай бұрын

....and Bach's fuge C# minor opening with the cross of suffering Christ is even more compelling. Chopin's identification in suffering brings the following quote from a novel "Najezdzy" by Jan Dobraczynski: "Placz ale nie odchodz. Powolalem kazda z was i kazdego z was do cierpienia. Na krzyzu moim jest duzo miejsca ... (...)... Ale musicie takze wiedziec, ze w was jest ziarno moje i chce, byscie temu ziarnu pozostali wierni." or "Cry but do not go away. I have called you to suffering. There is enough space on my Cross... (...)... You must know that there is my seed within you, and I want you to remain faithful to it." Jeszcze raz dziekuje.

@gregniemczuk 4 ай бұрын

Thank you Kris! Beautiful comments

@erggish 2 жыл бұрын

So sad I missed the last premieres (including this one, which is one of my favorites in thsi Op) 😢...

@gregniemczuk 2 жыл бұрын

Don't worry. You're here now!

@erggish 2 жыл бұрын

@@gregniemczuk the duet from the opera at 27:55 was .... amazing...

@gregniemczuk 2 жыл бұрын

@@erggish thank you!

@joshyman221 2 жыл бұрын

Szymon Nehring played this at a good tempo in the Chopin competition!

@gregniemczuk 2 жыл бұрын

I'll check! Wonderful!

@christophernorman8127 11 ай бұрын

The Norma story makes total sense……Norma’s mind is conflicted….. like the two melodies in this etude. Also the tumultuous middle section is insane … which also makes sense….. I don’t hear the second section of part B in quite the same way…for me this section (after the bravura section ) expresses exhaustion - Tuberculosis, in fact.! Chopin almost crossing over into the death realm… and then the breath returning ..almost unexpectedly…from nowhere…For me this is where death fits into this piece. ..rather than the end…

@gregniemczuk 11 ай бұрын

Wonderful. This interpretation is also beautiful. Thank you for watching and for the comment!

@kumo-kun1831 2 жыл бұрын

Just to share some more thoughts: A lot of people mentioned that this etude is harder than it seemed,

@gregniemczuk 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this. Yes, I agree!

@kumo-kun1831 2 жыл бұрын

@@gregniemczuk wait 😂😂😂 I haven’t finish the comment 🤭🤭 I was going to say, mr.geegnimcnuk demonstrated the legato problem of the Etude, and other people told that the voicing is terribly hard in this Etude, since you need to emphasise not only the left hand, but also the counter melody in right hand 😂 Give me more time and I will listen the whole analysis 😍

@nathanmancarella5355 2 жыл бұрын

Is it true Chopin composed a transcription of Casta Diva also?

@lindaweedmark6025 2 жыл бұрын

Yes kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h5qCdLWd36iseHU.html

@gregniemczuk 2 жыл бұрын

Yes!

@jfpary7336 2 жыл бұрын

The score is in the public domain.

@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji 11 ай бұрын

Yes, but the one featured here is the transcription by Thalberg.

@guolivi 4 ай бұрын

Padereski plays it at this tempo.

@gregniemczuk 4 ай бұрын

Yes!

@magdamejer298 2 жыл бұрын

🌹💔🌹

@themeshart Ай бұрын

@BjornHegstad 2 жыл бұрын

This etude is also the only etude for which, to our knowledge, Godowsky did not write a single study.

@gregniemczuk 2 жыл бұрын

He didn't dare!!!!!

@christophernorman8127 11 ай бұрын

Paderewski played this etude at the same speed as Greg…….

@gregniemczuk 11 ай бұрын

Wow!

@gregniemczuk 11 ай бұрын

So probably it must be right, because back than the tradition of performance of Chopin was much closer to him. Many people still remembered him or their teachers did.