F1 Suspension Pt 2 - Platform stabilisation, Heave dampers, Anti roll bars

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Chain Bear

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In this second video on suspension, we look at how suspension helps stabilise the platform of the car with heave dampers and anti roll bars
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@ALuzionz
@ALuzionz 3 жыл бұрын
This actually helped me understand how I can setup my car on ACC. This doesn't just apply to F1. Thanks Dude, Really helpful, I'll put you in the credits of my non-existent esports success.
@288gto7
@288gto7 3 жыл бұрын
Watch Aris if you want to get a really proper understanding of how to setup your car in ACC. As Chain Bear himself said , this video was just the basics
@leonardototaro266
@leonardototaro266 3 жыл бұрын
@@288gto7 true, but gives a very good basis onto which build up confidence
@288gto7
@288gto7 3 жыл бұрын
@@leonardototaro266 yeah it does
@ALuzionz
@ALuzionz 3 жыл бұрын
@@leonardototaro266 yeah, I now build on this well explained video. Already feeling good with some of my setups.
@dpinsy
@dpinsy 3 жыл бұрын
^ This comment in a nutshell. Good stuff.
@ladyravendale1
@ladyravendale1 3 жыл бұрын
Your 3D graphics are starting to get really good! Can’t wait to see what you do with them next!
@mr.randomgamer888
@mr.randomgamer888 3 жыл бұрын
I think he'll do stuff with em
@lolzlarkin3059
@lolzlarkin3059 3 жыл бұрын
1 vote for getting fusion 360 and modeling an entire car for shits a gigs
@grapefruit5690
@grapefruit5690 3 жыл бұрын
what else can he do you ifiot
@engdallal
@engdallal 3 жыл бұрын
I think the content is fantastic but with a true 3d model this video would be spectacular
@DapperHesher
@DapperHesher 3 жыл бұрын
Except his torsion bar is running the wrong way.
@GloveSlapnz
@GloveSlapnz 3 жыл бұрын
He even links to the main content in his video skipping past the advert. Chainbear you're such an asset to the F1 KZfaq community. Love all the work you've been putting in to improving animations and modelling.
@crackedemerald4930
@crackedemerald4930 3 жыл бұрын
Now we just need the novel anti roll bars in the description
@lfc-europe
@lfc-europe 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for releasing this so quickly and not keeping us in....'suspense'
@CBielski87
@CBielski87 3 жыл бұрын
better than being in flexure joints thats a real pinch
@bilalsaloojee532
@bilalsaloojee532 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like dying after reading these...
@HarryPorpise
@HarryPorpise 3 жыл бұрын
Hahhahahahaha ha haa ha haha that’s funny
@sarthakmunda3914
@sarthakmunda3914 3 жыл бұрын
I'd been rolling with anticipation
@Stellar-Cowboy
@Stellar-Cowboy 3 жыл бұрын
Not funny it’s just the same joke Stop trying to f l e x
@alirazapunjani2673
@alirazapunjani2673 3 жыл бұрын
Having been subscribed to your channel for over a year now, I've come to expect this quality in your videos. Yet it's worth reiterating how damn good you are at tackling complex concepts that no one else dare touches, managing to break them down and build them back up from simple fundamentals, and all of this while always finding the right balance between not losing your audience to unnecessary complex waffle while also not dumbing down the content quality. Your work is greatly appreciated, Stuart!
@falinestixiaolong9691
@falinestixiaolong9691 Жыл бұрын
You're damn right. I had just watched before that a video on the official F1 channel about the exact same topic. The guy explaining may have been an expert but his diagrams were not clear, and throwing words like "anti-roll bars" without explaining what it is don't help, so in the end I didn't understand anything.
@DaylightDigital
@DaylightDigital 3 жыл бұрын
Love everything about this except for "shifting center of mass." Dynamic load transfer due to acceleration, braking, or cornering is not caused by the CG moving around.
@jozsefmolnar6453
@jozsefmolnar6453 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, absolutely. You can have extremely big weight transfer without almost any chassis roll or CoG movement.
@DaylightDigital
@DaylightDigital 3 жыл бұрын
@@jozsefmolnar6453 I stopped using the term weight transfer years ago precisely because it's misleading. Load transfer is more accurate and less ambiguous.
@mohamedsalahdimessi1721
@mohamedsalahdimessi1721 3 жыл бұрын
I can hear u explaning f1 concepts for hours, cheers.
@001thefish
@001thefish 3 жыл бұрын
This is incredible. It feels like you can watch the sport for decades and never learn anything about how the suspension works. These last two videos have taught me so much about things I'd heard about but never really understood, and it only took 20 minutes.
@swanner95
@swanner95 3 жыл бұрын
I love this channel's contrast between in-depth understanding of the fundamentals of an F1 car, postulations about race and championship rules and arrangements, insights into the teams and their objectives and challenges and of course, tactfully placed aubergines during the season reviews.
@mooosje
@mooosje 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't understand 90% of this video as i wasn't paying full attention, yet it was still so entertaining. Definitely will be rewatching later on to see what I missed :p
@oscarshen6855
@oscarshen6855 3 жыл бұрын
Under current regulation the fat tires do most of the work that should have gone to spring and damper. In 2022 they will use slimmer tires thats more raletive to road cars, they can't absorb as much energy as current tires, which means the suspention needs a full redesign.
@Timberwolf69
@Timberwolf69 3 жыл бұрын
A redesign? Not really. Some adaptation, yes.
@itstimeforham
@itstimeforham 3 жыл бұрын
This has blown my mind. I didn’t really understand suspension until watching these two videos. Huge kudos to you, and thanks.
@draconicdusk5911
@draconicdusk5911 3 жыл бұрын
Mind blown, so much useful information. Liberty media really should hire you to make explanation videos like this on F1 weekends.
@JimTheFly
@JimTheFly 3 жыл бұрын
I've been a racing fan for years but this is the first time I really fell like I can start to understand all the various suspension-related terminology. I'm not sure I can properly use it in my racing games YET, but I feel like I'd be a lot less random in my setups at least.
@yodaslovetoy
@yodaslovetoy 3 жыл бұрын
Remember folks, always watch the newest video first, then go back to see what the feck you missed
@markmcnaughton85
@markmcnaughton85 3 жыл бұрын
Here you are explaining things in a way that is only going to further invest me in race weekend discussions. You always seem to strike the right amount of technical knowledge for me personally and I applaud you for that.
@CRico16
@CRico16 3 жыл бұрын
Simply best youtuber talking about techinical f1 aspects
@MikeeCZ
@MikeeCZ 3 жыл бұрын
4:00 Forgot to mention side wall flex, so not as squarely as possible, the tyre should still have negative camber even after taking the roll into account to counter the tyre deformation due to all the lateral forces. The faster the corners & the more the downforce, the larger the camber. Also good to mention that rear tyres tend to have lot less or no camber at all. This is the trade off between cornering grip and acceleration grip as the rears are the powered wheels in case of F1. (FWD cars tend to have very aggressive rear camber as the rears main job is just to corner)
@zac-oros
@zac-oros 3 жыл бұрын
You are seriously under-recognized as a content creator and an educator. Awesome work.
@1MyNickname1
@1MyNickname1 3 жыл бұрын
Yet I still can't setup my car in F1 2020 correctly.
@Kurosaka
@Kurosaka 3 жыл бұрын
Suspension is pretty tricky but I finally figured out differentials and brake bias
@laurisavolainen3129
@laurisavolainen3129 3 жыл бұрын
These really won't help you
@el-danihasbiarta1200
@el-danihasbiarta1200 3 жыл бұрын
a better driver..is better than tons of setup i learned a lot of setup and master it but still cannot control the car
@ronanoboyle6348
@ronanoboyle6348 3 жыл бұрын
Load a few time trial setups for a few different tracks and you’ll notice a trend for most tracks. Lower front aero higher rear wing. Softer front springs and front sway bars. Stiffer rear suspensions and rear sway bars. Usually about 1-3 front and 7-10 rear( for suspension and anti roll bars). Ride height 2-3 or 2-4 Suspension geometry usually either right left left left or right right left left. Tyre pressures as low as possible. Basically just get a baseline set up from time trial and tune it to your liking
@samnotloading6101
@samnotloading6101 3 жыл бұрын
In 2020 downforce is really good for time, highly recommend more downforce than previous years
@mamtfasc69
@mamtfasc69 3 жыл бұрын
Incredibly high quality video in both content and animation. Keep up the good work.
@aionbrti
@aionbrti 3 жыл бұрын
These videos are sooooo well made! This just made my day so much better! I'm just glad to see, that someone really puts a lot of effort in his videos
@anidiotinaracingcar4874
@anidiotinaracingcar4874 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Chain Bear back to doing awesome videos
@aymanalansari4696
@aymanalansari4696 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of your best vids ever, and by far the best explanation of F1 suspension I've ever seen! Love your work @ChainBear!! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@MortyMortyMorty
@MortyMortyMorty 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video like: "Was DAS any good?". Would be interesting!
@B3AN5
@B3AN5 3 жыл бұрын
If Mercedes used it in 2019 and 2018 it would have made winning the championship a lot easier as it allowed them to go fast in the corners and on straights without compromising set up, but because they were ridiculously dominant this year they didn't need to do it
@gbspikyfish
@gbspikyfish 3 жыл бұрын
Ja, DAS ist gut (I'll get my coat)
@amem3244
@amem3244 3 жыл бұрын
@@gbspikyfish reminds me of disco panzer
@panyeman2966
@panyeman2966 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I've been dreaming of building a racecar and the visuals helped me grasp the fundamentals of suspensions clearly.
@KyleCBowman
@KyleCBowman 3 жыл бұрын
Easily one of the best engineering explanation videos I have ever seen. Thank you!
@kawalsehmi
@kawalsehmi 3 жыл бұрын
Man your videos are amazing and well detailed. Keep up the good work fella.
@chakky533
@chakky533 3 жыл бұрын
truly exceptional visual education. i cannot believe how talented u are at this!
@hermmie17
@hermmie17 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best and easiest explaination for this type of suspension setup, very well done.
@auttomotiveelectronicperfo2010
@auttomotiveelectronicperfo2010 6 ай бұрын
Wow, tks a lot for this video, probably one of the best video available, easily understandble with awesome drawning animations! Tks a lot
@billyindiarto7209
@billyindiarto7209 3 жыл бұрын
Have been wondering all this time what a heave spring does. Now I do. Thanks to Chain Bear. Awesome
@racingprincipal
@racingprincipal 3 жыл бұрын
These instructional videos are absolutely world-class. Thank you so much for the time and effort you put into these videos.
@dustyrusty7956
@dustyrusty7956 3 жыл бұрын
CB: an excellent tutorial, easily understood. Kudos.
@bobomian_6790
@bobomian_6790 2 жыл бұрын
I think this is one of the best explanation-videos (in general) that I have ever seen! Truly detailed, with technological precision. Of course it demands some knowledge about mechanics, but given that, your video makes it really easy to find out how this element on a car actually works. Awesome!
@someonespotatohmm9513
@someonespotatohmm9513 3 жыл бұрын
I think a video about the regulations about the suspension could be interesting. I never understood why all the new suspension innovations that diver to much from the current setup are prevented, seems like you could do a lot of interesting developments in this area.
@ally_crawford
@ally_crawford 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you're feeling a little better, Stuart. Also had a Jan to forget...onwards and keep up the good work 👍
@ViewtifulTj
@ViewtifulTj 3 жыл бұрын
While I understand how F1 racing works, there are so many technologies i don't understand. These 3D animations really do bridge the gap in a way that's easy for everyone to understand. Good job mate
@GuzziHeroV50
@GuzziHeroV50 3 жыл бұрын
It bewilders me how you don't have 1M+ subs by now. Your presentation style is awesome, and your explanations both in depth and easy to follow.
@MuSicProphet1
@MuSicProphet1 3 жыл бұрын
Just subscribed to this channel. I wish I found it earlier, I’m going to be binging all these videos. Great stuff man!
@tensevo
@tensevo 2 жыл бұрын
Nice animation and graphics, all I would add, is that static camber is used to ensure some camber remains at full cornering load to benefit from "camber thrust".
@Thermalions
@Thermalions 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the excellent explanation. I was aware of the terms but hadn't really ever tried to understand their interaction before.
@rgarlinyc
@rgarlinyc 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderfully explained. As ever. (and you're clearly an AE maven too!) Thanks a gazllion CB!
@Mysteryman665
@Mysteryman665 3 жыл бұрын
Now I understood what Anti roll bars to do the car, both in F1 and in iRacing, thank you! :)
@fredherfst8148
@fredherfst8148 3 жыл бұрын
Well done. I finally get a grip on suspension. My takeaway is..holy shmoley...so many design and setup variables, all more or less interacting and specific to a course...mind blown again.
@josephiousbrosif
@josephiousbrosif 3 жыл бұрын
What a quality video. Very well explained 👌
@Wasyashock
@Wasyashock Жыл бұрын
I now finally understand anti-roll bars, thank you so much
@vineethprabhu8560
@vineethprabhu8560 3 жыл бұрын
I was longing for an explanation of what the different setup parameters in a F1 car mean while playing the game in my pc!! And here I am!!
@muhammadibrahim9704
@muhammadibrahim9704 3 жыл бұрын
Great video!!! please make more on suspension
@davnape14
@davnape14 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, so so so so good!! Well done!!
@koppah48
@koppah48 3 жыл бұрын
Would love it if you could do more videos on the advanced suspension setups that you hinted at towards the end of the video!
@IriquoyPlisken
@IriquoyPlisken 3 жыл бұрын
I now understand some of the numbers on my F1 20 setup. Cheers! 👍
@tonicrvnts
@tonicrvnts 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the video! I have many ideas now for mt trophy truck project
@GregBrownsWorldORacing
@GregBrownsWorldORacing 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Stewart, I wanted to know more and nowI do
@harveytorres3742
@harveytorres3742 Жыл бұрын
thanks man, really helps me a lot
@mikelewis495
@mikelewis495 3 жыл бұрын
Making your video on suspension into a cliff hanger is what left us in suspense
@1985NathAtul
@1985NathAtul 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Chain Bear- can you please share a video on why current F1 cars are so much more in sizes than the ones in the start of 2000s?
@omeregekocademir3426
@omeregekocademir3426 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for the time stamps
@AtrolinK
@AtrolinK 3 жыл бұрын
This is the first time in my life i've ever actually understood formula 1 suspensions.
@JJ-zg1hh
@JJ-zg1hh 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative. F1 suspension has always baffled me. Not any more!
@AviAeroAsis
@AviAeroAsis 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing presentation.
@joshdeval9545
@joshdeval9545 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing as always!
@y__h
@y__h 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody: Chain Bear: Cybersecc
@ch0zm0
@ch0zm0 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation!
@atharvachodankar5253
@atharvachodankar5253 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video! More technical videos please!!
@heylolp9
@heylolp9 3 жыл бұрын
@F1 hire that man for your KZfaq to help bring the technical side of the sport to the viewers
@patrickconlon140
@patrickconlon140 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video
@ropre4FA
@ropre4FA 3 жыл бұрын
fantastic video!
@generalguilmon6719
@generalguilmon6719 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative, nice videos
@riggybiggy
@riggybiggy 3 жыл бұрын
Just in time! Have to design the williams car in a few days. Thanks for the explanation s!
@coolio9138
@coolio9138 3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this thanks !
@288gto7
@288gto7 3 жыл бұрын
3:20. those arent packers. They are just bumpstops. Packers or „spacers“ are small cylindrical things that slide under the bumpstops so that the car will hit the bumpstops sooner. If you want a detailed explanation watch aris drives and fatcad motorsports videos on bumpstops
@Timberwolf69
@Timberwolf69 3 жыл бұрын
I've seen packers in NASCAR, but those usually are wedged into the springs at a certain point to change the stiffness of that spring.
@TByrom
@TByrom 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! Well done
@Bruno-cb5gk
@Bruno-cb5gk 3 жыл бұрын
"to maximize how much tread meets the tarmac to prevent wear, degradation and temperature issues" YES! Finally someone who understands that more area doesn't increase friction.
@grahamsnyder762
@grahamsnyder762 3 жыл бұрын
...it does do that too though. The coulomb model is an oversimplification for soft elastomers like racing tyres
@Bruno-cb5gk
@Bruno-cb5gk 3 жыл бұрын
@@grahamsnyder762 its not a perfectly linear relationship but its also not that far off from what I could find
@mzdshii1113
@mzdshii1113 3 жыл бұрын
also Great video .. thank you again wish you all the best
@mariovegabotto
@mariovegabotto 3 жыл бұрын
awww, you are back :)
@luar650
@luar650 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent!! Thank you
@mrc1672
@mrc1672 3 жыл бұрын
Great video
@cuzx1
@cuzx1 3 жыл бұрын
as always , great work. next do what is special about F1 car paint :p
@anthonyschmidt-ellis6353
@anthonyschmidt-ellis6353 3 жыл бұрын
This was great. Thanks Chain Bear. Could you do a video on the tunned mass damper that Reaunlt invented in 2005? I would love to see that.
@scottl.1568
@scottl.1568 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this
@Jon1998109
@Jon1998109 3 жыл бұрын
Centre of mass doesn't change under braking. The braking force causes a torque which is then balanced result in an uneven load of the car
@jevace4005
@jevace4005 3 жыл бұрын
Love f1 racing bro
@isaakvedalt8828
@isaakvedalt8828 3 жыл бұрын
Turns on F12020 while watching Chainbear “Hopefully these will help you understand suspension talk during F1 race weekends” yeeeesssss.......
@a88senna
@a88senna 3 жыл бұрын
Quality video
@mba2ceo
@mba2ceo 2 жыл бұрын
Great VID !!!
@Metis1337
@Metis1337 3 жыл бұрын
I'm once again asking you to publish your 2021 F1 predictions
@Mattsretiring
@Mattsretiring Жыл бұрын
Great. Thanks
@MrRemyFitz
@MrRemyFitz 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do some videos to do with the America’s Cup because I think some of the foil stuff and other parts of the boat would be pretty interesting, thanks :)
@sabercruiser.7053
@sabercruiser.7053 3 жыл бұрын
VERY VERY EDUCATIVE.
@zrspangle
@zrspangle 3 жыл бұрын
Starting off with a pun, lovely
@TheD999
@TheD999 Жыл бұрын
question. when people make there car lighter (carbon fiber chase), what part of suspension they need to upgrade to put more force down to get a good traction.
@tirechasershouston5537
@tirechasershouston5537 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Chain Bear, I have one question. Is it illegal to allow the downforce pressures under the floorboard to meter the actuation of the heave dampers, i.e. fore and aft pressure bellows under the car linked to the forward and rear heave dampers to passively adjusting the fluid transfer from one chamber of the heave dampers to the other? Thus retarding and minimizing rebound oscillation. Could this help solve Mercedes's porpiosing problem?
@bestfootball8335
@bestfootball8335 2 жыл бұрын
Are there joints in the chassis connecting the wishbones? On pics it just looks like rods going into the chassis and disappearing into nothing
@nikoyochum6974
@nikoyochum6974 3 жыл бұрын
quick note, I don't believe that the center of mass changes under acceleration, there is just a load transfer, the center of mass is a constant point.
@steijnvdo
@steijnvdo 3 жыл бұрын
I got a question, do you know where a new team would start when designing a brand new car and what the process would look like of designing it? Would they start at the floor, the aero, the engine available or just everything at the same time?
@newbxa1600
@newbxa1600 3 жыл бұрын
Can we get the links that you mentioned in the video about anti roll bar ?
@AhmedAhmed-bf9kx
@AhmedAhmed-bf9kx 3 жыл бұрын
Why this is not shownig in the channel
@MrJollof
@MrJollof 3 жыл бұрын
14 hours ago ?
@charlieohalloran7452
@charlieohalloran7452 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrJollof yeah whats going on? XD
@Zerkyie
@Zerkyie 3 жыл бұрын
You are a diffrent gravy, my guy.
@lukascudek5150
@lukascudek5150 3 жыл бұрын
What?? I mean, is he a hacker??😂
@andrewwang7699
@andrewwang7699 3 жыл бұрын
I assume you're a patron? Patrons have videos released (unlisted) a day or so early
@jasonsun3695
@jasonsun3695 3 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain why you would need a heave spring if you can just built in antidive/squat in your a-arm geometry?
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