F1 vs LM in old Le Mans (Bonus Cars)
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Күн бұрынIn an older video, we compared LM cars and F1 cars from the same year on the modern layout. Here, we do the same on the old layout, for the period 1955 - today, using Assetto Corsa.
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** Timestamp **
00:00 Intro and recap
01:37 Porsche 917/30 Spyder
05:35 Reynard 95i Oval
09:11 Porsche 919 EVO
12:35 Ferrari F2004
16:11 Mercedes W11 EQ
19:40 Bugatti Chiron Super Sport
23:28 Mercedes-Benz T80
27:28 Telemetry (TS050 vs Chiron)
29:46 Statistics
31:13 F2004 242 Chassis
** Circuit Mod **
Le Mans 1967 : www.overtake.gg/downloads/le-...
** Notes **
- Rules : 20L in each car. RPM and boost limiter to the max. Gears ratio, wings angle, toe and suspension height have also been tuned in the limits of what was allowed by the car/mod default settings.
- As pointed out in the comments, the Toyota GT-One mistakenly has a very low top speed here, at least 20 km/h too low as compared to real life data.
- The C9 top speed should be about 10 km/h higher at least.
- Some drivers said the porsche 962 could reach about 400 km/h, but no official data seem to confirm that.
- The Reynard 95i's braking handling seem much worse that reality, though it's an oval setup.
- For a given car/driver, an error of 10 km/h in top speed impacts approximately 1.5 s in lap time only, because top speed is typically not reached very quickly and acceleration, braking and cornering phases are of primary importance.
@Lawren2222_ 14 күн бұрын
The Mercedes T80 is the definition of Jeremy Clarkson and Richard Hammond combined "Speed and Power, but can't go around corners without crashing."
@purwantiallan5089 13 күн бұрын
Hammond is basically predecessor to Mazepin.😅
@davidmccann9811 15 күн бұрын
I was laughing at that big silver car until I saw it on the straight. Can you imagine it on an oval?
@fabulouscarcharts5467 15 күн бұрын
It is really terrible to drive. I do not know how it would have been in real life (well I suppose no one knows), but if I had to do it on an oval, I would tweak the mod parameters first, specially the tyre model. The car also need a better 3D model. But why not, one day ?
@TheGreatIndoors1979 15 күн бұрын
I'm imagining it on Martinsville.
@user-ue1wu9uu2l 15 күн бұрын
@@TheGreatIndoors1979Imagine it on Monaco!😂
@JerichoP84 15 күн бұрын
@@user-ue1wu9uu2lMacau would be insane
@JamesBackster-ji5tv 15 күн бұрын
It's a Mercedes T80
@obakengpilane7875 15 күн бұрын
the mercedes T80 was pure comedy 😂😂😂😂😂
@opposideduck 15 күн бұрын
3000 hp, 378 ugly land vehicle
@kepler-q186 14 күн бұрын
@@opposideduckat least it looks better than your mom
@nino3639 14 күн бұрын
It's for aerodynamic @@opposideduck
@user-tz4lr8xe4d 14 күн бұрын
@@opposideduckno performance enhancer is meant to be good looking. That's why Adrian Newey doesn't give a f*ck on most of his creations, but they work
@purwantiallan5089 13 күн бұрын
@@opposideduckits worse to handle than Chrysler Phaeton.
@jaivenoiszachary2119 14 күн бұрын
The lap in the 917/30 scared me bro. This car is terrifying by it's noise, power and speed
@purwantiallan5089 13 күн бұрын
917K and LM55 VGT also.
@heatherginn4386 12 күн бұрын
This actually is finally a game where being fast feels scary! :D
@pe8268 14 күн бұрын
I've been fascinated by the Mercedes T80 ever since I was a kid, so it was really exciting to see it in action here. Mulsanne becoming a 3-point turn was hilarious😂 That was a wonderful video series, great job!
@derosiflo6524 15 күн бұрын
That V10 Ferrari SCREAM! my god i miss those days
@purwantiallan5089 13 күн бұрын
F2004 "241 Chassis" 2004 still is the legendary car.
@mrsnoopy7557 11 күн бұрын
The T80 around the end of the Mulsanne felt like the Austin Powers scene in the mineshaft
@henryhallam5270 15 күн бұрын
Best series ever on youtube deam come true
@hugovilag 15 күн бұрын
Was hoping to see the infamous WM-88 go at it. Excess of 900hp, confirmed LeMans top speed record holder (407 kph, "405 kph" was for Peugeot's 405 model reveal publicity stunt) said to have reached ~420 kph in practice the year before its record setting run
@crankycow35098 14 күн бұрын
ive been looking for a mod for that but cant seem to find one :(
@hugovilag 14 күн бұрын
@@crankycow35098 it's an obscure race car, so I also understand a mod hasn't been done yet 😭
@crankycow35098 14 күн бұрын
@@hugovilag also i dont think any racing game has it.. yet. but its a rlly cool looking race car
@ZipZapTesla 4 күн бұрын
This is Assetto lol no peugeot mods allowed
@hugovilag 4 күн бұрын
@@ZipZapTesla cringe comment
@fluffskunk 12 күн бұрын
"T80 has a 3000hp airplane engine" - and sounds like a glider
@nerox4725 15 күн бұрын
if you need a great version of the F2004 i suggest you check ACR's F2004, its the most realistic one i tested.
@doomd3461 14 күн бұрын
I having a ptsd when i saw that 917/30 going wheelie
@fabulouscarcharts5467 14 күн бұрын
Haha, the Chiron also did it, and actually the braking after the wheelie was even more uncertain for it due to its weight
@ImInLoveWithBulla 15 күн бұрын
Damn, I don’t think anything is going to be able to match that legendary 917 for top speed. Very next car, 90s Indycar: 😊
@gaborcsizmazia2210 15 күн бұрын
Amazing video series, had a lot of fun watching it, it was very interesting. Keep up the good content!
@picup30296 14 күн бұрын
In Chinese ( Cantonese) we have developed a sentence in rhyme that describe fast cars on st., but deadly on corners (直路狂，彎路亡) This applies extremely well on that silver 'arrow', who cares F1 2026 reg :)
@vr861 14 күн бұрын
I was watching this series and what an awesome idea. Thanks for all the effort driving all those cars and sharing it with us. In your opinion, what was the most fun car to ride on these track?
@fabulouscarcharts5467 14 күн бұрын
Thanks ! The funniest thing to me was to manage cars that become unstable at some speed, like all the pre-1980 cars, especially in braking phases. Indianapolis turn and the Esses (+ braking downhill) was really interesting, and the Maison Blanche section is scary as hell (specially when it's the 12th time you try to make a clean lap with a given car). So I would say GT40, 917K and 917/30 are the funniest :)
@blompertz7 13 күн бұрын
15:50 Love the fact that the vanilla chassis min speed at Maison Blanche is higher than the highest speed on the straight.
@fabulouscarcharts5467 10 күн бұрын
My bad, these 2 values have been mistakenly swapped.
@spongebot380 13 күн бұрын
bro, they're not even cars🤦, they're monsters 💀🔥🙏
@thegarlicbread4422 3 күн бұрын
That 917/30 terrified me. I could feel the relative lack of grip going through the high-speed sections, and it looked like you would've virtually killed yourself if you had just given the slightest misinput. To think a car with that power/weight ratio was built in 1973; those Germans were crazy!
@Slakass55 10 күн бұрын
Double thumbs up for the dedication in testing some 30 cars well enough to pull fast lap times in each. Can't begin to imagine how much time it took you to produce this great series (I'm still to watch the others but definitely plan to). Classic Le Mans really appeals to me, this 1955 version is neat. Are these free mods for AC? If so could you please provide link to this and the other versions, or point me in the direction where I could find them? I'm guessing Race Dept but any hints/links would be appreciated.
@damarfadlan9251 3 күн бұрын
F2004 242 Maxed Out chassis simply has an amazing sound and top speeds.
@purwantiallan5089 13 күн бұрын
The F1 cars most of them can go way faster than Le Mans cars in the Old Le Mans track, despite they have worse reliability than Le Mans cars.
@TACJHON_ 7 күн бұрын
If gran turismo released an update for old versions of tracks it would be the best update in all of its history
@Str3ss3dpo3t654 11 күн бұрын
Would really love to see a koenigsegg ccgt featured one day. Would be especially cool to see it without the drastic power restriction it had for the fia compared to the road ccx
@ImInLoveWithBulla 15 күн бұрын
90s Indy or Champcar with DRS would be unstoppable.
@tonymontana3873 13 күн бұрын
Bro what is your settings? The sense of speed you got is crazy mine barely shakes or feels fast😭
@starmaster488lol9 14 күн бұрын
hey bro, quick question. what was the T80s mulsanne braking distance? XDDD
@fabulouscarcharts5467 13 күн бұрын
Haha, about 1 km
@lionelferrari1655 Күн бұрын
F2004 : 367or 379km/h Mulsanne braking point 150m. I have no words.
@lucastaormina7024 15 күн бұрын
Hey, I would like to know what program you used for the statistics? Thanks!
@el_william9557 4 күн бұрын
bro what is ur sounds and neckfx settings
@justinbrown6233 10 күн бұрын
How do you get the driver's head to move around like that??
@jeffery7281 15 күн бұрын
Yeah here it comes
@jeffery7281 15 күн бұрын
Damn I was thinking "ok let's see who can flat through Indianapolis without breaking or lifting" *Then W11 just send it.* Fking monster.
@akhdanwirataram4911 15 күн бұрын
where can i ger the 241 chassis bruv?
@Nagito_komeda 10 күн бұрын
It almost flew at 2:58
@MemesbroOnScratch 15 күн бұрын
I think the Red Bull X2011 can wipe the floor
@vycanismelodis 14 күн бұрын
That le mans track looks a little too smooth
@BevaliValiBoss 15 күн бұрын
Did the 917/30 on full boost had 1400+ hp?, also whats the song in the video?
@fabulouscarcharts5467 15 күн бұрын
About 1300hp according to Kunos. Yes, full boost. Song is Lazy Laura.
@BevaliValiBoss 14 күн бұрын
@@fabulouscarcharts5467 thx
@igorvarelasanfrancisco6756 14 күн бұрын
Es una jodida locura conducir el 917 en el assetto corsa 1580 CV con el turbo a tope
@MrNinjaFish 12 күн бұрын
The Reynard confused me. If it's the oval configuration surely it would be pulling left all the time because of the canted suspension?
@fabulouscarcharts5467 10 күн бұрын
Suspensions are part of the tweakable settings in game. However, the mod I use is not very realistic for this car, in this regard.
@patb6430 14 күн бұрын
Give the 241 modern tyres!
@paoloalessiorusselli9203 15 күн бұрын
dovresti farla anche con F2004 con gomme slik
@antmaz76 12 күн бұрын
What’s the mod of F2004?
@TinyBearTim 12 күн бұрын
Isn’t the 2004 natively in corsa
@antmaz76 12 күн бұрын
@@TinyBearTim 241 chassis?
@Kitsu-oficial 14 күн бұрын
Mazda 787b please
@imverytired958 14 күн бұрын
What game is this
@Idontknowtohandle.2 14 күн бұрын
Assetto corsa
@imverytired958 14 күн бұрын
@@Idontknowtohandle.2 thanks
@TinyBearTim 12 күн бұрын
Why do people use this mercades t80 model this isn’t how the car looks
@ivorylovesyouu 23 сағат бұрын
that is NOT how the real T80 looks.
@BoxCarRacer-notthebandsorry 15 күн бұрын
I feel like it's a bit disingenuous to tell us the braking point of some of the cars in these tests when you are sometimes braking way too early. In the Reynard, you literally got back on the throttle in the braking zone. There's other cars where you miss some corners entirely. I just think if you're going to be giving out all of this data, you might as well try to get a cleaner lap in each car. That said, the videos are still fun to watch, and it's cool to see how they all somewhat compare.
@fabulouscarcharts5467 15 күн бұрын
When testing more than 30 cars and trying to do a honest fast lap with each one of them, sometimes in turns out that you have to choose between a decent lap or not giving the comparison for each car. I chose the first option. Honest lap time was the priority, and secondary stats like braking distance are, well, secondary, sorry for that : ) By "honest lap time", I mean a lap time (with a given setup) that isn't far from the best lap one would have after trying 1 or 2 hours to improve.
@user-fh2dd8ld2b 15 күн бұрын
I thought that w11 is the fastest car in the track.
@Starfire_Storm 15 күн бұрын
On a normal track, it is. But given this iteration of Le Mans is basically 4-5 straights connected by 5 corners that actually matter, it doesn't manage to win due to it's limited top speed. Yes, it likely should have been in the 360 Km/h range, but it wouldn't have won either way.
@user-fh2dd8ld2b 14 күн бұрын
@@Starfire_Storm ok, Thanks
@scottl.1568 4 күн бұрын
Whut
@legendsnespoy1369 13 күн бұрын
Bro, you have to find yourself a new Neck FX camera, the one you're using is cringe
@fabulouscarcharts5467 13 күн бұрын
Can you develop ?
@legendsnespoy1369 13 күн бұрын
@@fabulouscarcharts5467 yeah sure How can I send it? KZfaq is auto-removing links
@fabulouscarcharts5467 13 күн бұрын
@@legendsnespoy1369 I mean could you explain what should be improved
@legendsnespoy1369 12 күн бұрын
@@fabulouscarcharts5467 mainly that drill-in-your-butt effect at high speeds Racers in real race cars are tightly secured with seat belts in the cockpit so their body is almost stationary and only head is moving But your head won't have that simplistic up and down effect with 0 absorption which is present in your NeckFX camera On bumps head should lean forwards and it shouldn't be so rapid, maybe with ever so slight up and down movements
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