F150 GEN 4 COYOTE V8 OVERVIEW | Bad Things Changed

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Ford updated the 5.0L Coyote V8 to the 4th Generation in 2021. This new Coyote came with some major changes due to government EPA regulations, which could leave consumers unhappy. Engine Auto start / stop and cylinder deactivation were now standard on these new engines. Because of the chip shortage engine auto start / stop was automatically deleted for 2022 but cylinder deactivation is still present on my F150. There are some good changes that happened but we will cover those in a later video.
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@markcarraway879 Жыл бұрын

I have not seen any failures of the 4th Gen Coyote, which came out in 2021. The belt driven oil pump appears to have solved the gear driven oil pump issues, at least so far... I see numerous videos of the new 12:1 compression 5.0 with Whipple supercharges upholding 775+ hp with no issues. I am a retired Ford Senior Master technician who just purchased a 2022 and 2023 F150 5.0L trucks and I am amazed at the power and drivability. So much so, that I just purchased the Whipple charger for my personal truck. I will agree that anything "man made" can have faults or defects, and maybe it is to early to tell. But from my extensive research on this engine platform and success so far, my opinion is that with modern build tolerances, this engine will last. I have followed Ford engineering techniques for 30+ years and feel that their innovation is at least superior to Salantis and GMC,

@smokingmother Жыл бұрын

its not gear driven its a gear type pump

@markcarraway879 Жыл бұрын

I realize it’s a gear/rotor that rides in a housing and rotated by a machined flat surface of the crankshaft snout. Didn’t realize I had to be so specific

@user-co6wx1bu6n Жыл бұрын

hey mark just a question i have a 2015 f150 coyote engine and love it! zero problems, when i seen that they decided to drive the oil pump with a belt i felt this was a bad idea as how long is that going to last? i thought it was to gain a couple of hp thats why they went with a belt....but what was wrong with the the old gear driven oil pumps? never heard of them quitting or is it just a certain year that they had problems? thanks!

@scottyV1000 7 ай бұрын

@@user-co6wx1bu6nIt’s my understanding that with power adders such as turbos or superchargers the internal gears/lobes could fracture with the gear driven oil pumps. The real solution was just to use better materials in the pump and there are kits out there to change out the internals or just replace the whole pump with a high performance pump. The problem I see with the belt driven pump is if you do have to replace the belt you are going to have to take the whole timing chain system out because the timing chains to the cams are in front of the oil pump belt.

@JonathanBence 6 ай бұрын

How do you feel about the FP700 whipple compared to the charger straight from whipple? I am considering the upgrade myself on my 21, but i am leaning towards the FP700 whipple.

@JavonWilliams29 Жыл бұрын

Although I hate cylinder deactivation, I appreciate FORD for at least keeping V8 alive unlike Toyota which completely got rid of V8s. I feel like if FORD got rid of V8s, people would still complain.

@doctorcropse2795 10 ай бұрын

GM keeping the v8 strong too

@blackcoffee730 7 ай бұрын

Completely agree. I am coming from a Tundra 5.7L and the V6s do nothing for me.

@Suckmyring 3 ай бұрын

@@doctorcropse2795not in the regular cab short beds.

@CJColvin 3 ай бұрын

Great video brother, I have a 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it with 160,000 miles on it and still going strong and it's a beast and it sounds like a beast with the Borla Exhaust as well.

@JimVincitore 3 ай бұрын

Great videos! Very cool! Keep the vids coming!

@rickiehobson9351 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the information Kevin

@user-hz2gx9tr1l 10 ай бұрын

I had a Stage 2 Ford Performance Whipple Supercharger at the dealer. Auto shut-off and Cylinder deactivation disabled in the Ford /Whipple tune. Never really noticed the cylinder deactivation before hand to be hones even with the Roush Active exhaust installed Sport mode disables the cylinder deactivation and auto shut off. The belt driven oil pump is rated for 1000 hp.

@johngarner9929 Жыл бұрын

Good video - own a 2021 F150 STX 4x4 with the 5.0 having 3:73 gears in the rear end. Love the towing capabilities and fuel economy. My cylinder deactivation is a small nuisance between 41 and 53 miles per hour - other than that it’s not quite noticeable. Hope your truck gives you good service.

@slmjake Жыл бұрын

Sir what kinda of mpgs do u get

@johngarner9929 Жыл бұрын

@@slmjake Combination of city and highway usually averages between 18 and 20. At interstate speeds of 70- to 75-miles per hour I can average around 22.

@slmjake Жыл бұрын

@John Garner that is fantastic. I have a powerboost and average to date is 19.8 mpgs over 14k miles. Only reason I will sell this truck is lack of payload ad it only has 1360 pounds legal and I want to some day get an F150 with the HDPP. Slide in pop up camper i want is about 1800 pounds wet weight and myself and gear will push total payload to about 2300 pounds once in awhile.. Was thinking my next truck with have the 3.5 but more guys are convincing me that the 5.0 is a great option as well

@johngarner9929 Жыл бұрын

@@slmjake Happy hunting - looked at the 3.5. but being a fan of V-8 engines - the 5.0 was my preference.

@kingtachoss 8 ай бұрын

I got a 23 single cab 4x4 V8 easiest way to stay on the 8 cyl is tune it Coyote it’s an awesome engine let’s enjoy it while we can

@ItIsColdHere 3 ай бұрын

Enjoyed your video. I love my 2023 F150 5.0L. Hope there is a special place you know where for those EPA goofballs.

@todd7706 Жыл бұрын

I’m happy with the stock exhaust on my 22, 5.0 so the CD is no issue for me. It may not be as fast as the turbos but the sound more than makes up for it.

@KevinsAutoChannel Жыл бұрын

Yes, Ford did do a good job with the stock exhaust

@mbb-pr4zc 5 ай бұрын

It’s not at all obsolete in the V8 game either. It’s superior. It just so happens to be slightly edged out by TWIN turbos on a 3.5. Ford just flexin. I bought the 5.0 on 12/10 /23

@clay3129 5 ай бұрын

I’ve seen so many people say sport or tow mode deactivated theirs. Do you still have your activated?

@kschroll666 7 ай бұрын

I have a 2022 F150 5.0 with max trailer tow package. Sport mode or tow/haul mode do deactivate cylinder deactivation. Interesting.

@jasonpgallery Жыл бұрын

Hey man, just replaced my 2020 2.7 EB with a 23’ 5.0l sxt. I haven’t really noticed the deactivation being bothersome; the EB was hitting 77k and my window of trading was getting small. The thing I hated in the 2020 was the 3-4 slip and knocking transmission if going under 15 miles in like suburban quiet communities, almost embarrassing.

@KevinsAutoChannel Жыл бұрын

Congrats on the new truck. You will only notice the deactivation I'd you change your exhaust.

@tomtraynor5384 7 ай бұрын

I have a 2020 3.5 and am experiencing what I think you are: 3-4 'THUNK" when cold-tranny idling out of neighborhood in cld weather. went away all summer--but here it comes again.... Truck has 53,000 miles and drivetrain is to 60,000 I believe. Is the "3-4 thunk" a fail-point or just a nuisance? Or should I get to in see of a tranny replace is viable? Thanks

@GarryBishop 5 ай бұрын

2021 F-150 XLT I haven’t tried but I heard that plugging in a trailer wire harness in the rear bumper will trick your truck into thinking it pulling a trailer and thus cancel cylinder deactivation,haven’t tried it yet though??

@run-n-smoke7336 10 ай бұрын

Brother, I don't know what is going on with your truck but, I have a 2022 150 with 373 gears and in sport mode and tow haul..... the cylinder deactivation doesn't come on at all.

@pecanpie100 Жыл бұрын

Kevin: thank you for the excellent vid! I really appreciate the info that you shared. I will soon be buying a brand new 2023 F-150 with the Coyote 5L V8 engine. I'm not a fan of auto start/stop or cylinder deactivation (CD). I'm happy that the auto start/stop will not be provided in my 2023 build. But of course, it will come with CD. I was surprised to hear you say that sport mode and tow/haul mode did not deactivate the CD in your truck, only because I have read all over the internet that sport mode and tow/haul mode deactivates it. So, if you are correct, then it sounds to me like the only reasonably easy option to get rid of the CD is to implement a custom tune, such as the one sold by the Livernois company or 5 Star. Do you have any input or comments on either of those?

@KevinsAutoChannel Жыл бұрын

I tried Sport mode again last week and this time it seemed to override CD. I will keep experimenting with this and follow up with an update video. I have looked into the Livernois system but it costs $700 so I haven't been able to get it yet. Let me know how you like your truck when you get it.

@pecanpie100 Жыл бұрын

@@KevinsAutoChannel Thank you Kevin for that quick update!

@dimsum1033 Жыл бұрын

Thanks to the cylinder deactivation on the L83 of my 2017 Suburban, the cylinder 6 valve lifter broke and the whole bank's head gasket and a whole bunch of parts had to be replaced. This was at about 48,000 miles. I have just recently traded it in for a new Ram 2500 Laramie with the 6.7 Cummins.

@BC08 Жыл бұрын

I don’t believe the Coyote cylinder deactivation will suffer from the valve train issues the the pushrods do. The Coyote system isn’t lifter dependent on deactivating-reactivating the valve and doesn’t have anything like the VLOM manifold system to leak internally. Pushrods 💩

@hochhaul Жыл бұрын

Change your oil more often. 9 out of 10 AFM failures are due to idiots not changing their oil often enough, thinking that full-synthetic oil means they shouldn't have to change it every 5000 miles.

@JROC734 Жыл бұрын

@@hochhaul For the most part I agree with this. My 19 1SS 1LE never had an issue. While being a M6 car it didn't use AFM, it still is built with all the hardware to use AFM. With that said regardless of whether or not my vehicle has DOD I change my oil between 3,500 to 4,000 miles at most. That's on me and my wifes DD. On my non-DD vehicles I won't go past 3K miles due to them not getting changed as frequently. Do I have to change my oil this frequently when all I use is synthetic oils? Maybe not, but I've not had major mechanical failure since switching to synthetic oil and using this system either. I started using synthetic oil in the early 2,000's in my early 20's. For a modern GM vehicle with DOD and DI I highly recommend using only oils with the DEXOS2 rating. They are formulated to play nice with AFM/DFM lifters, and to have less carbon buildup on your intake values. They do a pretty good job of it as well. They can be a little more pricey, and maybe not "as easy" to find, but they're not hard to find either, and if you order your oil off the internet then sourcing it is a non-issue. I will say I worked with a guy who bought a 21 Silverado LT Z71, and GM had to buy him a new L83 after barely hitting 3,100 miles. That's some BS, but at least he didn't need a new engine at 36,001 miles. I also knew a guy who had a lifter take out his cam on a stock 16 Camaro SS. He drove that car pretty hard, but I don't think he really neglected it either. Whatever the case he ended up trading it in on a then brand new 19 Silverado.

@Outboardtech 7 ай бұрын

Start stop turns back on every-time you start the truck, if you put adapter from 7 pin trailer to 4 pin with a built in self testing LEDs the truck picks up a trailer connected and kills the start stop

@RottenAnimal 4 ай бұрын

Good comment

@dewrus2153 4 ай бұрын

True..but using one of those makes it think you're towing so it changes other parameters like turning off your backup sensors, etc. There are a few other ways to deactivate it. I have a dongle that plugs into the OBDII connector that keeps it set at whatever your last setting was without any other "side-effects". Some people just unplug the BMS at the battery because if the computer doesn't know the state of the battery, it keeps start/stop in "off" mode. This method has caused some people to get codes and lights but most report no issues.

@scottyV1000 7 ай бұрын

I have a 22 and the only way I notice the cylinder deactivation is on the fuel economy readout when it jumps from 16 to 25 or more. My only disappointment so far has been that I’m only averaging 17 mpg with 2,500 miles on the truck while my 15 was getting 19 on 87 octane and the old 6 speed automatic. I run 93 octane in the new one because of the higher compression ratio and I have the good rearend gearing which hurts gas mileage a bit but definitely helps acceleration. One other note about the cylinder deactivation is that GM and Ram have had issues because they are overhead valve designs and use the lifters to deliver the cylinder deactivation and they have had lifter failures. Ford uses overhead cam engines so there are no lifters to fail.

@michaelross8036 5 ай бұрын

My 2023 XL with STX package averages 20.3mpg in normal mode, 20inch factory wheels. 50 city, 50 highway driving. currently 3,100 miles on the Odometer.

@malcolmn.5222 Жыл бұрын

I had a Dodge Scatpack, it had cylinder deactivation. I had no issues. If a scat pack can have cylinder deactivation, this f150 can have it.

@mclroy Жыл бұрын

I've got a 2021 coyote. You can deavtivate with an obd2 and the forscan software.

@tviperjester3978 8 ай бұрын

How? No one has published a way through to forscan an over ride to CD

@jcasey460 12 күн бұрын

So I'm new to Ford, never owned a vehicle w/ cylinder deactivation and just bought a 2024 F-150 XL. I've only got 130-miles of seat time (dealership to home) so have not yet developed the sensitivity to small changes in performance. What is it that is happening that you know the deactivation and reactivation has occurred (I don't hear any change in sound and don't see an indicator showing the gear your in)? Is there an RPM range where it will occur (looked like you were at 1K for a while and then at 1.1K)? Until this vid I also thought that Sport, Toe, or Sand modes prevented the deactivation. It wouldn't have made a difference but when I specifically asked the Salesman he told me the truck did not have it??? Did something change for the 2024 model year? Thanks FYI-read some of the comments and had recently seen a vid discussion the oil pump belt having Kevlar added and the pump is a billet for the 2024. (don't know if that was fact but the guy did say it was a Ford Engineer that took pictures and provided the info.) Thanks

@sthier24 Ай бұрын

Is it true that Ford eliminated the iron sleeves and replaced it with a spray on cylinder liner? How is that going?

@markcarraway879 Жыл бұрын

No sir, they went to a belt driven oil pump, no longer crankshaft driven. I removed the cylinder deactivation with a simple tune. No piston modifications necessary.

@Ws6Ms Жыл бұрын

Are you saying this gen 4 is belt driven oil pump???

@markcarraway879 Жыл бұрын

@@Ws6Ms Yes sir. You can look it up. It is a "wet belt", driven by the crank, that is inside the engine and receives lubrication from engine oil. The belt has no service interval and is intended to last the life of the engine. I only brought up these facts because I disagree with people stating bullshit when they do not know what they are talking about. I also own this engine and have researched all the changes on the Gen 4 Coyote.

@davidestrada7337 Жыл бұрын

@@markcarraway879 ok so what do you think its okay to get a new one ?? i have a 3rd gen mustang gt its been great but these F150s 5.0s get me worried

@pecanpie100 Жыл бұрын

Hello Mark Carraway! I read up above that you are a retired Ford Senior Master tech. Congrats on retiring! You obviously have lots of info and experience with Fords. You mentioned that you removed the cylinder deactivation with a simple tune. I will soon be buying a 2023 F-150 with the Coyote 5L V8 engine. Would you mind sharing info as to how exactly you went about acquiring such a tune and installing it? I've read about the Livernois company that sells tunes that will do that. By chance is that what you used?

@markcarraway879 Жыл бұрын

@@pecanpie100 Yes sir, I originally went with the Livernois tune, E85 and 93 gas. This eliminated the cylinder deactivation and added pretty impressive power on E85. I was really happy to hear that they have existed in Dearborn Michigan since the 1940's, so I figured they must have some inroads with Ford. I ended up going with the Whipple supercharger and I am currently running their tune, and so far I am pretty satisfied with its performance and transmission management. I may go to the Livernois Whipple tune, but they did not have it ready when I installed my Whipple on my 2023 F150 Platinum. I just ordered a 5.0 Tremor for my wife, and might use that tuner for her truck. Undecided at this point. Let me know if I can be of any assistance on your build.

@trutrek913 5 ай бұрын

Cylinder deactivation has a history of breaking engines. Mostly affecting people in very flat lands, doing mostly highway driving and not hauling anything as the cylinder deactivation is used the most. After a while, the cylinders that aren't running become much cooler than the ones that are running and that temperature difference creates head gasket leaks and oil issues.

@michaelross8036 5 ай бұрын

my 2013 GMC Sierra LS motor had CD, traded it in for my 23 coyote with just shy of 200,000 miles on the odometer. never had an issue with that motor. I never used a tune, always stock. CD has come a long way not many any issues at all. I never experienced any of the issues you mentioned. I base my experience as an owner and real world driving of an LS motor with CD. Ford has programmed the 21+ coyote to not disengage CD......the reason why I say this is, my 2013 GMC Sierra with a 6 speed was able to cancel out CD when in manual mode 5th gear.

@trutrek913 5 ай бұрын

@@michaelross8036 Were you always hauling something and/or used 5th gear a lot? You might be on to something here.

@CJColvin 3 ай бұрын

You can get a cylinder deactivation kit for you're 21 and newer 5.0L F150s and delete the cylinder deactivation permanently.

@mesothelioma5024 6 ай бұрын

My old 4.9 used to drone if I held the throttle in the same spot. As for the cylinder deactivation I’m wondering if there’s going to be slightly more wear in specific cylinders 10 20 or even 30 years

@shawnmurphy798 22 күн бұрын

Pistons are still moving and oil is still pumped. Maybe more carbon build up on 4 of the cylinders. But other than that I’d say the cylinders are fine. Maybe more wear on oil pump and lifters though???

@scottdonbrosky5968 3 ай бұрын

All you have to do when coming to a stop, it just feather the brake pedal just enough to keep you from rolling while stopped. This will allow the engine to stay running and not activate the Auto start stop.

@byrdman3587 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video and I'm against the electric takeover

@mrutan6055 9 ай бұрын

I think ford's 5.0 had a sleeved cyl. Then went with a sprayed sleeve. Reminds me of the Vega oil burner

@scottyV1000 7 ай бұрын

Porsche has been using spray bore liners for decades. It’s not new technology if done right.

@scottdonbrosky5968 3 ай бұрын

Fords been using the plasma arc spray liner for many years now.

@sentryfe74 6 ай бұрын

i wonder if it is activated by the coolant temperature being warm enough like Honda. If so it can be fooled by using inline resistors in the coolant temperature sensor.

@Joao_Oliveira23 5 ай бұрын

My last 19 v8 use to burn so much oil that on the day of the oil change no oil shows on the new longer stick they installed. Got the new 23 2.7 saving a lot on gas and no oil consumption

@mrutan6055 9 ай бұрын

I had a 2014 f150 5.0 it got 16mpg traded it off for a f250 for a truck camper 2400lbs 14mpg empty 10 with lance camper

@jamesgirdley7994 11 ай бұрын

I've got a rattling on decel and pulling in the driveway what's the drone your talking about?

@thomasstanfield1891 19 күн бұрын

my 2019 has stop start. I'm confident the 2018 5.0 does also

@alphakilo9066 Жыл бұрын

Drive in sport mode, and cylinder deactivation is neutralized.

@Tom-ic7hw Жыл бұрын

can u use the range pulsar or something in the 2023 to deactivate the cylinder deactivation thingy

@KevinsAutoChannel Жыл бұрын

So far those only work on GM and some Ram models. nothing for Ford yet

@GrizziGang 9 ай бұрын

I turned my auto start stop off using forscan 2019 stx 4x4 f150

@MrRMB1 Жыл бұрын

I heard that Dodge is stopping their production of the V8 Hemi. All new vehicles will have the V6 Turbo moving forward. Hopefully, Ford won't follow suit..

@KevinsAutoChannel Жыл бұрын

Yes and the hellcat versions will be made electric. Sad times for the v8.

@sategllib2191 Жыл бұрын

Straight 6 turbo

@cat5tracker581 Жыл бұрын

Ford is slowing down production of the V8

@trutrek913 5 ай бұрын

They will because GM, Dodge and Toyota is already doing it. Then it becomes a battle of who has the best V6 engine. Then the best 4 cylinder engine, then 3, then it will be one piston with 4 turbos and intercoolers running 25,000 RPMs in our full size trucks.

@CJColvin 3 ай бұрын

@KevinsAutoChannel I hear you brother and it breaks my heart.

@williamlittle7987 Жыл бұрын

The only good thing Ford changed on the Gen 4 5.0 V8. ..was they switched to a steel oil pan and drain plug from a stupid plastic one...don't know about the excessive oil consumption or the ticking issues...the 10 speed automatic transmission has had its own faults as well..

@MickeyR6 3 ай бұрын

People keep knocking on the 3.5 Ecoboost. You neglect it & it will cost you. You keep the fluids & oil fresh and it will run very reliable. I've seen some with over 200K miles and still going strong. Maintenance is everything to these trucks.

@hdz12ez Жыл бұрын

Auto start stop was introduced on the Coyote in 2018. Easily disabled with ForScan.

@johneast6101 Жыл бұрын

Bro there’s a button on the dash

@hdz12ez Жыл бұрын

@@johneast6101 that's a pain in the ass

@devildog3125 Жыл бұрын

I had a 2019 F-150 rental for over week and in 15 minutes after picking it up I dug into the menu on the center screen and deactivated it 1 time till I had turn it in and was very easy

@dmandman9 11 ай бұрын

@@hdz12ezI guess I can’t speak for another. But i must admit that I simply can’t understand why it’s such a bother to take 1/2 second to press a button. People that don’t want the auto start press the button as a reflex .

@hdz12ez 11 ай бұрын

@@dmandman9 I hear ya. I did that for the first couple of years but now it's been disabled through my tune anyway. However, when I go back to the stock tune, I don't have to think about it anymore cause it's disabled there too.

@markb.1259 15 сағат бұрын

I'm not sure I'd want to be the one telling folks how to deactivate a system the EPA wants on your vehicle. Just might end up in federal court like many people who deleted their DPF systems did.

@freedomisntfree_44 Жыл бұрын

A tiny plug under the hood will disable the cylinder deactivation

@KevinsAutoChannel Жыл бұрын

I tried unplugging that connection a couple of months ago but it did not seem to disable CD. I will try it again to see if it will work.

@freedomisntfree_44 11 ай бұрын

@@situationcoyote that too! Lol

@jw8578 Жыл бұрын

How about the plasma applied cylinder linings rather than inserts? Bad idea to me.

@KevinsAutoChannel Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I think the plasma will break down quickly

@dmandman9 11 ай бұрын

@@KevinsAutoChannel While i don’t like it, I’m also thinking they tested it extensively before they installed the engine in their best selling vehicle. .. I could be wrong though.

@jasondickinson1842 5 ай бұрын

Pros and cons. The material is roughly twice as hard as a liner. So it doesn’t wear or break in easy. If everything is perfect, it’s better. But it pushes the wear to the rings, and causes oil use because it doesn’t break in well. It’s been out for a while. My 18 uses some oil in normal driving. But uses none when towing. Seems like the extra heat seals the rings better. Imperfect castings 🤷🏻‍♂️

@sirtigalotwolfe2962 5 ай бұрын

Install a Oil catch can from PCV valve on valve cover to can then back to intake... it will save you carbon on the back of you valves. I have a 2018 f150 v8 coyote gen 3, w/ 10 speed FX4, 6.5 bed. I love mine.. only start stop on mine dodged a bullet... mine is 3.31 I think on gear ratio I do not understand all of that I looked it up on towing says like 9600 max on Trailer, 1875 LBS cargo on truck max. so like I guess no more that 1K LBS on the Truck?

@chadburnheath Жыл бұрын

I have a 2021 that came stock without auto start/stop with the 5.0

@stevetassie5479 Жыл бұрын

Probably didn't have the chip for it but not a bad thing..

@Corbin517 Жыл бұрын

You can order it like that. Mine is that way to.

@elbros5325 Жыл бұрын

Yea the guy that ordered the '23 I got, had it special ordered and did the auto start/stop delete. Dealer didn't say why his purchase didn't go through, but he ordered it kinda the way I would have - 5.0 v8, Atlas blue, Texas Edition, fx4, led headlights, 18 inch Tremor wheels instead of the 20" stock sport pkg wheels, all weather rubber mats, and other lil cool stuff.

@user-rb9kr2tn9m 21 сағат бұрын

Can you get rid of the deactivation?

@oldgrayhairs8246 14 күн бұрын

I’m against all of those regulations, including the all electric vehicles in 2035 that’s a bunch of crap. There are not enough plug-in Location for trucks and cars and any kind of towing capabilities will probably go away with the use of electric trucks which I believe it’s already been proven so it’s all a bunch of crap. just stumbled on your channel because of the comments the title GEN 4 engine 5.0 good stuff keep up the good work.

@RottenAnimal 4 ай бұрын

Is there a way to remove the cylinder deactivation system?

@KevinsAutoChannel 4 ай бұрын

@rottenanimal the only way I know to remove it is to either reprogram the ecu or change out the pistons and do some serious engine work.

@petergalvez6431 4 ай бұрын

@@KevinsAutoChannelthe pistons have nothing to do with it

@TrevorMaffetone 2 ай бұрын

Tune removes it and so does sport and tow mode

@Frdtsl 2 ай бұрын

Are there any v8 trucks without deactivation anymore?

@mtut 2 ай бұрын

Any 3/4 or 1-ton. Or you just disable it on your 1/2 ton. Ford's EPA highway mileage for a 2024 F150 4x4 with the Coyote is 24 mpg, which is damn good for a truck (and about equivalent to an Ecoboost). But you won't get that kind of mileage without cylinder deactivation. No manufacturer is *required* to use cylinder deactivation. They all chose to. It helps them upsell people to V8s when they can point out that they don't use significantly more gas than a 4 or 6 cylinder.

@cat5tracker581 Жыл бұрын

Is your intake loud? Like an ebay cai was added? Mine is loud. Its a 2022.

@KevinsAutoChannel Жыл бұрын

Not that I've noticed. I changed out my Muffler though to a Flowmaster Supper 44 so that's what I hear the most.

@BuiltDifferent13 Жыл бұрын

Gen 1/2 is the best imo especially with 6R80.... 10speed garbage and gen 3 5.0 drink 5 quarts of oil

@KevinsAutoChannel Жыл бұрын

Yeah the 10 speed was a collaboration with GM so it’s not as good as the 6R80

@BuiltDifferent13 Жыл бұрын

@@KevinsAutoChannel yeah but they ended up fighting like cats and dogs and also GM was more involved in the nine speed for the front wheel drive applications. The 10 speed was more Ford. It really is a Ford transmission when they're in the GM trucks. They just have a GM tune and clutches to work converter and they run dexron 6

@BuiltDifferent13 Жыл бұрын

@@KevinsAutoChannel honestly the GM tune is a little better out of the box

@JROC734 Жыл бұрын

@@BuiltDifferent13 I 100% disagree, and one of the main reasons I went with a GEN3 Coyote/10R80 F150 over a L87/10L80 Silverado was the transmission performance. GM seems to have missed the fact that they have 10 gears, and they tune the truck to shift lazy like an old 4 speed automatic. Typical GM wanting to force the engine to lug up to speed. The 5L/10R80 on the other hand is a very quick and willing to downshift setup, but not in an annoying way. I love the 5L/10R80 setup in my 18 F150. It is excellent, and blows the performance of a 5L/6R80 away. 10R80 issues are way overblown IMHO. It's a good transmission.

@tkilg7169 2 ай бұрын

I am afraid that government intrusion into the auto industry will be the least of our worries in the not too distant future. I think it is going to be tough just keeping food on the table.

@duanelee9289 2 ай бұрын

I saw a video last week about how it can be shut off.

@matthewheld1292 Жыл бұрын

The quality of the coyote in my opinion dropped off the face of the earth when they introduced the third generation coyote in 2018, plastic oil pans and crappy plastic oil plugs, oil consumption issues, auto stop start, disappointing, they had something good going with gen 1 and gen ii and they once again given up on all that like they did in the 90s to mid 2000s going from Windsor built SBF engines to 2v tritons which were decent to that 3v abortion (i’ll be it not as bad as that but both then and now are both a result of poor engineering and government overreach) and it looks like it only seems to have gotten worse with the gen iv now having cylinder deactivation 🤦🏼‍♂️

@chkntndy7727 11 ай бұрын

So, Gen 4 Coyote removed auto start stop as of 2022 due to chip shortage, were back to a steel oil pan, only thing it has that you listed as a red flag is VDE.

@jimbuterbaugh104 10 ай бұрын

Thank a liberal tree hugger for cylinder deactivation. People vote for liberals then complain

@268Brookland 7 ай бұрын

My 2020 had start stop

@curtis1951 Жыл бұрын

Did they fix the oil consumption?

@Annihilator105 Жыл бұрын

Seen more oil consumption on 4th gens then 3rd gens lately.

@kenwilson2314 Жыл бұрын

I’ve had 3 engines replaced so far in my 2018 f150 5.0 so sick of this truck going through another oil consumption test now.

@Ramitnr Жыл бұрын

It’s worse it seems, plasma lined cylinder looks like a fail.

@mesothelioma5024 Жыл бұрын

I think the issue is the oil viscosity

@ElStriker777 20 күн бұрын

🔥👍

@Outboardtech 7 ай бұрын

My 19 has start stop so I’m sure that’s older then you think

@user-le9be6es4t Жыл бұрын

Did Ford alter the 5.0 to cure the 2018-2020 oil consumption issue???

@billhillegass946 Жыл бұрын

Believe it or not , even ford dealerships are no longer using 5/20 oil, they are using 5/30 instead when they change your oil. I think this is the fix for Consumption. I took my 2022 in for its first change, and questioned why my paper work said 5/30 as opposed to the 5/20 on the oil cap .

@petergalvez6431 4 ай бұрын

@@billhillegass946dealers are still using 5w20

@goldenplatapus5074 Жыл бұрын

Abolish the EPA

@BuiltDifferent13 Жыл бұрын

Honestly, not a stupid comment!!! You know why because it's not called global warming. It's called an interglatial. The earth has melted and froze multiple times and it's millions of years of existence. You cannot stop interglatial you might be able to slow it down because yes we are speeding it up but we damn sure ain't stopping it luckily. Apes thrive in warm weather... Just not 120° f at night in Canada

@randomguy-xp7se Жыл бұрын

Damn Nixon

@CJColvin 3 ай бұрын

Agreed 100% brother, blame Nixon for all of this crap.

@williamfeldner9356 Ай бұрын

Just drive in sport 2h or tow/haul modes, no deactivation

@ML-lg4ky Жыл бұрын

Does the transmission have a dip stick?

@KevinsAutoChannel Жыл бұрын

No, all modern cars have sealed transmissions now so you cant check the fluid level anymore.

@ML-lg4ky Жыл бұрын

@@KevinsAutoChannel how are you supposed to change the fluid then?

@blackcoffee730 7 ай бұрын

I f***ing hate auto start/stop. Hate it on my Highlander and hate it on everything. Government's making things worse for every industry.

@pt6998 4 ай бұрын

Same. Had a 2020 Explorer with it and hated it. It's lease ran out and we bought a 2023 Explorer and the sales person said it didn't have it because of the chip shortage. I almost kissed the guy I was so happy. 😂

@smokingmother Жыл бұрын

sooo glad I have a 2020 direct drive oil pump and no deactivation

@smokingmother Жыл бұрын

and start/stop deactivator for 100 bux fixed start stop bs

@user-le9be6es4t Жыл бұрын

Except for the fact that you will probably suffer from excess oil consumption like the rest of us that own these 5.0 engines from 2018 - 2020. Check your dipstick between oil changes and let us know how low it goes......

@smokingmother 10 ай бұрын

@@user-le9be6es4t like this engine won't ha ha ha

@jaybilawchuk2225 7 ай бұрын

Just got a 2023 two weeks ago. Has the start/stop, and the deactivation, and not even close to the gas mileage of my 2017. In my opinion, they just turned this great engine into problems. Too early to see higher miles, but the ticking and lifter issues we see from the other brands will become our future now as well. 🤦‍♂️

@nelly713pressuahh8 6 ай бұрын

Tow mode and sports mode turns it off

@nukiepoo 4 күн бұрын

Sorry, my 2019 gen 3 has start/stop

@kevinvaughn8261 Жыл бұрын

Anything with turbos is going to wear your motor out quicker, so there goes your reliability

@CJColvin 3 ай бұрын

Agreed 100%

@Justacogg 3 ай бұрын

You may want to be concerned about a rubber belt as the only means driving the oil pump! That may be more of a concern than just cylinder deactivation! FJB!

@brandonmacon3317 2 ай бұрын

Its really the 2nd 3rd Gen

@mikes1292 Жыл бұрын

Do get any ticking sound at 3300rpm?

@KevinsAutoChannel Жыл бұрын

I haven't noticed any ticking even running regular gas. I'll start listening out though to see if I notice.

@Chubbydippin Ай бұрын

EPA was approved, signed off on, and pushed through by Nixon. There seems to be a bit of a grey area as to whether the big 3 have to, or just wanted to incorporate cylinder deactivation in builds containing it. Who blames Nixon for being the Linch pin Architect of environmental vehicular Wokedness these days?

@winstonrocco1981 Жыл бұрын

Well don’t want that then

@gamitaalfonso9999 11 ай бұрын

So my 2014 F150 w/coyote is probably the best year for that engine.

@CJColvin 3 ай бұрын

Same here with my 2011

@keithbarker149 Ай бұрын

I think the government stuff to stay out of it they already got a job locked down to nothing I appreciate your honesty

@markcarraway879 Жыл бұрын

Pistons rebuilt????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

@KevinsAutoChannel Жыл бұрын

Oil pump gears are stronger now in the new engine. Pistons are different for the cylinder deactivation. They would have to replace liters and pistons to get rid of that system.

@Luci_S Жыл бұрын

I think you pretty much answered your own question as to why CY deactivation was mandatory. Like it or not, CY deactivation isn't to improve fuel economy or some weird feature. It's to reduce pollution in the air which causes shift in climate/weather change: Think floods, fires, and air quality. If a bunch of people took the time to maintain their vehicles to help reduce pollution, we wouldn't be forced to drive hybrid or full electric vehicles in the coming years. I am sticking with GAS engines, and keep a few brand new gas vehicles in my garage before the law changes.

@CJColvin 3 ай бұрын

I think the main problem is that people just like to keep trading vehicles every year cause they want the latest and newest thing instead of keeping vehicles for a long time and fixing em.

@DanielHernandez-qw6gi Жыл бұрын

I was told if you drive in sport mode it won't come on, cynlinder deactivation.

@KevinsAutoChannel Жыл бұрын

When I tested it in sport mode it still deactivated but I will try it again to see.

@cliffmorrison1130 Жыл бұрын

@@KevinsAutoChannelplease let us know

@BigThumpr1 2 ай бұрын

Bud, you don’t have a Gen 4 Coyote, you have a Gen 3. Look it up, 2018 to 2023 are Gen 3, 2024 is the first year for Gen 4 Coyote.

@gerichayes1948 Жыл бұрын

I thought it was gen3 not gen4

@OnlyDigs Жыл бұрын

It is still a Gen 3. The Gen 4 is debuting in the 2024 mustang

@gerichayes1948 Жыл бұрын

@@OnlyDigs I know that 2024 dark horse will have 500+ hp Yea I k all about that but I was saying y is he calling that gen3 coyote a gen4 when the gen4 does come out until 2024 lol

@Sptsmn700 Жыл бұрын

@@OnlyDigs gen 4 coyote started in 21 for f150

@OnlyDigs Жыл бұрын

@@Sptsmn700 It’s a Gen 3 that’s been slightly updated to have cylinder deactivation and a new belt driven oil pump. Ford is still advertising it as a Gen 3.

@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit Жыл бұрын

So is the engine good again or no? Gen 3 sucked is Gen 4 a vast improvement?

@KevinsAutoChannel Жыл бұрын

There are major improvements with the oil pump gears but then again it has cylinder deactivation which defeats the improvements. I will make another video highlighting the improvements. Overall it’s an improved gen 3.

@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit Жыл бұрын

@@KevinsAutoChannel yea but you calways tune the cylinder deactivation out I know there’s only one or two tunes right now but I know it’s possible

@joshuaelkins4889 Жыл бұрын

3rd Gen doesn’t suck. A vast majority do not have oil consumption issues or noises. I would buy my 18 5.0 again without hesitation

@gerichayes1948 Жыл бұрын

U obviously don’t know what a gen3 5.0 is apparently gen3 is the best so far

@schmidtygt Жыл бұрын

@@KevinsAutoChannel it IS an improved gen 3 lmao. Gen 4 will not exist until 2024

@blue.5058 Жыл бұрын

If you think auto start sucks, wait until you discover the oil pump is BELT driven and not direct driven as in older models.

@rivalspeedusa Жыл бұрын

Thats better 5.0s had oil pump gear issues

@robbyshinault1069 Жыл бұрын

I don’t know if that’s any better, maybe for the first 1,000,000 miles, but that small short oil pump drive belt is going to get old and being submerged in gas coaked oil it’s eventually gone to come off or stretched or skip a tooth on the cog gear.

@306cuber 7 ай бұрын

@@robbyshinault1069 I'd be super happy if I could get a million miles out of that oil pump as you suggest.

@mbb-pr4zc 5 ай бұрын

It’s a 3.31 gear

@petergalvez6431 4 ай бұрын

No such thing as

@mbb-pr4zc 4 ай бұрын

@@petergalvez6431 good eye on typo

@heavydieselengine8989 Жыл бұрын

Can you delete it?

@KevinsAutoChannel Жыл бұрын

There is a tune available for this engine that should resolve the cylinder deactivation or you could have it physically removed by reworking the pistons.

@heavydieselengine8989 Жыл бұрын

@@KevinsAutoChannel only tune cost $800 and I’m not tearing apart the engine to fix the CD.

@KevinsAutoChannel Жыл бұрын

Yes it’s a lot more affordable for the tune and this is eventually what I will do to the truck. The drone is driving me crazy since I swapped mufflers.

@Ramitnr Жыл бұрын

I'm not buying the 5.0 as a more reliable alternative to the 3.5 EB. The 3.5 is beyond proven at this point. The EPA has already ruined modern Diesel engines, government regulations are trying to push out the V8 as well. The variable displacement gasoline engines are taking over - better economy and performance and reliability is basically the same. Modern turbo's are very good. The pro's the V8 has over the variable displacement engine is the sound and cheaper easier maintenance and a more simple design. Better reliability of the V8 over the 3.5 EB is not proven.

@christian7200 Жыл бұрын

I mean look at it simply. Turbo vs no turbo. There’s already 2 more failure points vs NA

@chrisspencer9400 Жыл бұрын

@@christian7200 My experience just doesn't bear out a reliability issue. I have a 2003 Excursion with a turbo charged 7.3 with 245k miles and 19 years of age. Not a single turbo problem in all those years and miles. I also had a 2009 Jetta Sport wagon with over 185k miles on it when I sold it the Borg turbo was fine. I am betting these newer turbos are even better than the old ones but that's just a guess. I have had more problems with natural aspirated V8's though. I have a 2013 suburban 5.3 that keeps fouling spark plugs with oil. Dealer said it needs a new engine. 160k miles on that V8.

@MrRMB1 Жыл бұрын

@@chrisspencer9400 I'm with you as well. I have a 2019 Mercedes Sprinter van motorhome with their 188HP turbo 3.0 and pull a cargo trailer with it when camping. It also has a history of being a very reliable engine and drives effortlessly.

@rickitysplitz7035 Жыл бұрын

Reliability on newer engines have gone down the shitter for nearly all brands. What are you talking about? 😂

@fccoz8348 Жыл бұрын

I had a 2013 3.5 eb f150 and engine died at 130k miles

@Jack_sparrow-am-different Ай бұрын

Just disable it

@barrymitchell7732 Жыл бұрын

Get to the point. Bs

@jnagime Жыл бұрын

Chevy,Dodge and now Ford with cylinders management oh no !!!!🤦🏻‍♂️ Nissan and Toyota don’t have this feature is a true V8???

@nomaam9797 Жыл бұрын

Ford made to break !!!!

@joepaone6346 Жыл бұрын

Govt regulation sucks! Electric sucks. I will never own or buy electric ,not a real car or truck. V8 is the only way in ford f150 . Great job ford buddy👍

@CJColvin 3 ай бұрын

Agreed 100% brother

@nomaam9797 Жыл бұрын

Tundra and titan … bigger and better v8 s … more reliable…. No bs technology

@schmidtygt Жыл бұрын

I’m going to assume you’re not in the racing community but just so you know these coyotes are reliable on stock everything up towards the 1200 whp range

@cat5tracker581 Жыл бұрын

Tundra has stopped the V8 also.

@CJColvin 3 ай бұрын

My 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it has none of these issues as well.

@kellyjohna Жыл бұрын

Lots of "boats" in Canada. It's all "a boat" Canada. "I want to live where yaks run free and royal Mounties can arrest me, Canada oh Canada I si Vous ples".

@user-hz2gx9tr1l 10 ай бұрын