Don't worry Mister. Our time is coming 😎🤙🏾

@DJHeroMasta AMEN

I have the 86, but I can't wait to use my imaginary money to buy it.

I feel this

My friend let me give you some advice that works for me. If you talk about something to the point friends, girlfriend, family are tired of hearing about it. You will buy it.

Shoot, I have a build on Gran Turismo 7 with stage 3 weight reduction, race exhaust, headers, air intake, slotted rotors, 17" wheels and she weighs 2183lbs. With those bolts ons in addition to a custom mapped ECU, and a custom rear diff (currently close to stock settings), she's outputting 269HP to the crank @7500rpms and 205lbs of torque at 4600rpms. All with a completely stock motor! She already feels like a rocket ship 😆. Can't wait to see how me moves when I fine tune the gearing and rear diff. Adding engine upgrades is last on my list as I'll have to stiffen up the chassis to prevent twisting which will add more weight in addition to beefier tires. Will probably want to add a front splitter too. Ahhh, I love tweaking things. Can't wait for the day I can roll off the lot with one of my own. 🤩

@@DJHeroMastaand how do you plan on getting a brz down to that weight? I read the whole story to realize you were talking about a gran turismo build

@@787blah If I were to aim toward being that light I'd. Completely gut the car down to the chassis and weight that. Depending on what it weighed from there would determine if I wanted to go further than that, highly doubt it other than swapping out the exhaust. But since it'd be a dedicated track car at that point, might as well go ahead and strip the engine bay down while all of the wiring is exposed and remove all of the unnecessary bits (Windshield washer, A/C, Heating unit, wiring harness, wires) and rebuild the harness. Seats, light weight battery, engine components, pulleys, wheels/tires. Replace the windows with poly and if the budget allowed, lastly would be to start replacing body panels with carbon fiber. Realistically though I'd want to retain most of the cars base functionality so I'd just gut it, rebuild the wiring harness, replace the windows, throw an aero kit on it, add fully covered underbody panels and call it a day. From the manufacturing line the engineers already lightened up the materials of the roof of the car and the hood is made out of aluminum so there's not too much more weight to shave off unless you want to replace the roof entirely. As I performed engine upgrades overtime, I'd replace components with their counterparts.

@Dnias1 That's awesome! Heck yeah! Weight savings of the average adult. I'm deffinitely looking forward to making some real gains like that!

@@DJHeroMasta Keep playing GT7 bud :)

What did you spend on the install and tune?

ppl

Amen to that brother. Quite a few good companies make fantastic unequal length performance headers these days too. The difference between the two isn't nearly significant enough to justify not having that sweet boxer rumble.

These haven't been proven reliable w/o forced induction.

Yeah these motors are trash. Why would Toyota even partner with Subaru for a motor. They aren’t known for reliability. 9k for 300 wheel is crap even reliably.

@gsxMac24 no traction either unless much wider wheels are used with better differential and clutch, so fourth. Just more power would lead to a crash easily.

@@gsxMac24 For the lower center of gravity.

The only benefit to running that style of Intercooler is being able to sit on launch control and not heat-soak or run a killer chiller. A proper top-mount or FMI is just as good in ALMOST all cases without having to worry about the pump failing/malfunctioning, since it's not factory. Not saying it wouldn't be unique tho 👍

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They said exhaust is all stock.

Tuner kits are available to order now from Harrop USA in Dayton OH, shipping in March/April.

@@HarropTVI just checked and I can’t find it.

@@ckosioGR product web page will be up in the coming days. Team can be reached at info@harrop-usa.com

ship to Canada?@@HarropTV

That's Ozzie dollars, not USD. US price is currently $6795, for the bare kit sc/intercooler/fuel pump, no ECU mods. Harrop-usa website.

@@thewheelieguy Thanks for the correction, that seems more reasonable.

No pod filter option. Our Time Attack 86 runs a large pod filer with a custom intake tube.

The stock car doesn’t have that issue why would the tuned supercharger kit?

​​@tone3560 Neither does the Miata stock, but Supercharger installs have been known to create that issue on that platform. It's not a dumb question.

Really wanna know the weight too

Harrop USA will stock kits in $USD shipping from Dayton OH.

Did you see this video on the race car? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kJ9jaZlhxKypnoE.htmlfeature=shared

I am in Europe hence the question

With a supercharger, bigger is always better

Unless you run dual 2.5 out of each bank of cylinders all yhe way. That would be amazing

It is available now. Please email sales@harrop.com.au.

If you pay $40k for a GR86 you paid too much. I bought a new 2023 BRZ Limited for under $35k including tax, license and title. A 10 year old Porsche with high miles? It's more car but add the cost of ongoing repairs and it's no bargain.

@@christophe_george I had a brz very fun car, but it does not compare to the build quality of Porsche.the brz feels like it was built for teenagers, i’ll argue that Porsche is more reliable than a Subaru engine any day and as long as you do the maintenance yourself it’s pretty affordable ,718 cayman came out in 2017 and still the current model so it doesn’t feel like an outdated 10-year-old car.

@@Jayjewelerofficial I agree the cars are in two different classes as they should be since a base 718 Cayman sold for more than double the price of a BRZ in 2023. If someone can find the mythical good used one 10 years old and doesn't need anything they should buy it. It's definitely more car but the ask for a decent 2017 is about $40k and the 2018's jump to $60k so a lot more car but a lot more money.

cali boys rise up

Yes - email sales@harrop.com.au or info@harrop-usa.com for price and availability.

My 2019 brz ts has a uel header and tune and it did a 13.9 with good tyres. This will be a low 12 sec car

@@mrporsche4236 Good for you but I don't think 303HP will net a low 12s, at best maybe 13 even, stock GR86 run 13.9 Motortrend or something.

@@yume8380do you understand the difference between hp and whp?

@@mogulme6190 What are you talking about? The Supra 4cylinder 2.0 engine is rated at 255hp from the factory, and it usually dyno at 280hp on the same type of dynamometer as this BRZ, I am comparing them on the same field as far as horsepower rating goes.

Probably not. 🤣

You would need an oil cooler and catch cans at the bare minimum imo to be “reliable” on track. It’s not a turn key track car from the factory at $30K usd. Maybe even a 1L overfill on the oil., or an accusump if it would fit with the Supercharger on.

Will likely need at minimum an oil cooler like I did for my Edelbrock supercharged '13 BRZ.

For a couple of laps

50k km is about the longest I would expect the engine to last after this upgrade. Too many engines failing on stock power.

I would guess it has higher compression?

Much higher compression ratio on the FA24.

Old engine

Considering they can barely take stock power reliably, I doubt it. It’s a Subaru engine.

My old FA20 ran 10 PSI of (turbo) boost for a decade, stock. Tune smart and treat it well; this much power will be fine.

The engine will be fine, but after 100,000mi the head gaskets will go, but that's practically every single NA Subaru engine

@@RW-zh7kl don’t forget ringlands.

@@Username-2 they eventually fixed those, I think, after a few years, except for when Subaru STI's became Toyota's in like 2010. The like 2010 -2014 models. You would think when you have a good 2.5 engine, just leave it alone.

Looks like Cusco should work just fine.

Modern tech is crazy. Look at Mazda's Skyactiv X, which can go into a "diesel" type mode that ignites the gasoline with no spark, just compression. In that configuration, the engine has a compression ratio of 16:1, on Regular octane gasoline.

@@haifai3916 well, I guess I'm old school indeed! Thanks for sharing

@@bttawfiq Of course! To give a more precise reason, it’s mostly timing trickery for most new engines, among other improvements such as direct injection. The FA24 in the BRZ/GR86 specifically knocks constantly, by design. The computer relies on the knock sensors to pull timing through VVT in situations where you have bad fuel or it’s at the very top of the rev range. For this reason, you can actually run regular fuel in “premium only” vehicles without damaging anything, it’ll just cut 30% of the power or thereabouts. Mazda’s system is more advanced than Subaru, so the owner’s manual for the BRZ says that you may use 87 octane in an emergency, but do not rev it all the way out. Mazda on the other hand says that you may run 87, but expect a sizable decrease in power. If you’d like more power with forced induction on modern vehicles, you may run race fuel or more commonly E85 and tune for that, with an increase in power without changing compression ratio or boost, since the knock sensors won’t retard timing with those fuels.

@@haifai3916 I do understand how it works, but thanks for the explanation nonetheless. I used to own a 2013 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8, that engine knocked like crazy in very hot weather and 91 Octane fuel barely satisfied it, I used to add a few liters of 109 Octane race fuel to each tank fill up, worked like a charm. When I researched it it appears the engine management in Hemis aren't good in timing manipulation, and it had a 10.9:1 compression ratio.

12psi with 12.5 compression. That would require E85 or race fuel.

@Daniel-dg3np run an air to water intercooler with interchiller?

What... This is laughable. What Dyno were you using.

@@ZTM_Development mustang dyno

@@ZTM_Development are you impressed or skeptical?

You gotta link to that. I don't believe for a second that someone got a +40% horsepower increase by doing nothing to an NA engine

​@@kadengordon6941 It also has a supercharger. He's talking about the Sprintex kit+those mods he listed.

Just add E-85 👌

CARB E.O application pending for US

I bet it’s 6 grand. So you will be at 40k if installed total including car. No where near Supra 6cylinder cost

@@tone3560 Why do you want to bet if you can see the kit fof 13k on their webshop

In australia its over12,000 and it will be a trillion times more fun then a turbo car

@@tone3560closer to a 4 cylinder supra price. You could tune the 4 cylinder Supra and get more hp.

@@787blah Thats like saying to buy a 4cyl or 6cyl mustang and tune it... There is a guy on my forum paying 19k +9k of labor for a jdl turbo kit on a gr86....people are ridiculous

Ar that point just by the 2.0 Supra and tune it

@@wza223-fo3mc meaning?

Have you driven one? They handle better than any of those

@Joshold Elantra N handle better ✋️. Elantra win 🏆 for engine quicker and produce the best 4 cylinder sound in the market 👌. Steering precise and give you real feedback. The seat is very well positioned for truck and daily driving.

@@sayedengine but it's so ugly and FWD. That's wack af

@@Joshold it's beautiful 4 doors that smashed box of tomatoes 🍅 86.

@@sayedenginefwd trash