Fun fact: The channel responsible for the Mortal Kombat clip at the end of the video found me sharing it on Twitter so funny that we’re now going to be collaborating on a Mortal Kombat tournament hosted by each of us. Details of how to join and support will be being posted on the channel later this week.

Deep Blue winning by stalling until Kasparov quit reminds me of one episode of Star Trek TNG; in the episode the Enterprise is being visited by a Grand Master of a strategy game and the crew get Data to challenge him thinking that Data will wipe the floor with him, but Data ends up losing. Then after spending some time having an existential crisis over how he could’ve lost at the end of the episode, Data challenges the guy to a rematch and forces him to ragequit, and when the crew ask him how he managed it, Data reveals that the grand master was playing to win, while Data was playing to draw and was deliberately making moves to keep the game in a stalemate condition.

I love that you brought back the green screen and didn't even use it. Keep up the good work

Idea: A chess computer that teabags when it wins. I call it Deep Blue Balls

Deep Blue stalling the game reminds me of the time a robot played Tetris and was kicking the game's ass for a good hour. And then when the game got too fast for it, the robot just paused the game because it's the only way it wouldn't lose.

I kind of have the opposite story. I liked playing chess in middle school. There was this girl that was a WAAAY better chess player than me. We were in different grades, the only time we met up was in the library in the early mornings and we played chess for the heck of it. Like, I know she's better. She's using positions and moves and strategies 2~4 moves beyond what I was thinking. But whenever we start our first games, she'd get so advance that I'd go "Are you sure you want to do that?" She'd reconsider and go "Yeah." "Are you absolutely sure." She looks around again. "Yes." I move a piece and get her into a checkmate. She would literally facepalm because she missed the simplest move that allowed me to win. She was a good sport though. I let her take it back and try a different move but she would always go "No, it's my loss. Just let me get a rematch." And then she would trounce me 4 games in a row. I liked her. I hope she's doing well.

That Smash clip reminds me of an MTG tournament I saw once. All the local players had fine-tuned their decks against each other, and the shop owner bought a £10 pre-built deck and won the tournament because his cards weren't 'meta' and therefore all these finely tuned decks had no answer for them.

It reminds of the saying that the great swordsman doesn't fear the second greatest but instead is scared of a complete untrained fighter who might do anything

In case no one has mentioned it, yes, IBM's Deep Thought was named after the computer in Douglas Adams' "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" that calculated the answer to the Ultimate Question of Life the Universe and Everything. (42) The first novel was published in 1979, and the chess computer won its first championship in 1988.

I can fully understand the "I'm lost and confused, so just play some random move." thing. Back 50 years ago, I used to play live tournament chess on a fairly regular basis. Due to the tournament structure I would regularly have my first two to three matches be against the top players in the tournament. And whichever color you played as your first match you would switch to the opposite color for the second match against your next opponent. Because I would start my first few rounds against Masters and Grand-Masters, I could start my later rounds by using the opening moves of my opponents from the first couple of games and just run their opening moves against my current opponents until I could see a clear winning path or the current game had gotten so far off the beginning track that I would have to be totally using my own skills, At times I would create a breathing space for myself with a "safe" just random move to give me time to get myself back on track to either win or drag out the game hoping for a mistake by the other player. That random move would work about 50% of the time to maybe push my opponent close to time trouble for the game.

i like the theory that ibm sent parts of deep blue to the far corners of the earth like theyre some magical relic. like its hard drive is in that drawer with the infinity stones back at the TVA office

I remember in family game night, it was monopoly, I acquired one of every single color/utility/railroad etc... I refused to part with any of my properties... forcing a deadlock because my family couldn't complete their sets for monopoly houses/hotels. They all raged out and tried to pressure me to part with my properties. I didn't budge. I felt like a boss whenever I landed on any place and there wasn't anything my siblings could do to avoid me paying minimum rent.

I actually did that to my dad when I was 15 or so. He was quite a decent chess player an he would never let me win. One day I don't know why I got him. I played way better than usual and manage to get a mate that he hadn't seen. He tried to challenge me to a rematch but I declined laughing, picked the board and pieces and never played anything that wasn't Othello or battlefield with him again.

A story about rage quitting: so when I was about 13-14, I had stepped away from baseball as a whole. My older brother, one day, incessantly bugs me to play MLB The Show whatever year. I eventually agree to shut him up when he says "at least play home run derby. It's JUST timing". So I choose a random player, Hank Aaron, and my brother chooses his favorite. First round, I knock 6 or 7 Homers. Brother gets like, 4. Round 2, and I knock another 5 or six. Brother gets two. Third round; I hit a third Homer in the round and my brother stands up says "we're done. This is BS" and turns off his Xbox. I was a mite proud of myself for incidentally beating him at his game.

just imagining a chess robot that does a bunch of weird moves and then throws that game and then 5 years later the guy who beats it just has a random computer fall out of the sky and kill him and the chess robot just goin like "i win bitch"

I love the rage quit stories. Years back on ps2 my friends and I got deep into jcw backyard wrestling. One buddy had been playing all day just thinking he was so hot, right. Another friend walks in the door high as giraffe balls never picked up the game before and just slays. So of course we cheer. Mr. Hot stuff throws my 150$ aftermarket wireless controller storms out because we didn't cheer for him.

What has Karl done to that poor skeleton

The TBFP clip made me so happy. I love this channel. It feels like a pub crossed with a library. Good times, good stories, and good knowledge.

the feeling kasparov felt when he was thrown of by this seemingly illogical move is how i feel like half of my life because i have ADHD alot of mundane things are stupidly hard for me so i "calculate" and over think peoples "moves" several times ahead of them without even noticing most of the time but people often are so random they throw me of and im stuck not only thinking "what do i do now?" but also "WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT?"

Back in the Halo 3 (I think) days when you had a 2v2 match, if your partner quit, that was it. There was a map that was mostly vertical with lifts and drops, and I get left alone shortly after the match started. I was pretty decent at the game, and figured out if I could sneak, then kill, then run/hide via lifts or dropping off the side, that I could score 2 points at a time and only give them 1 point if I died. I won that game, best Halo match ever.

That Halo strategy is like basketball before the shot clock. Some teams would play “four corners.” Just get a lead, then pass the ball around and try to run out the clock

Mr. BigTimber's dedication to the audience is commendable, all hail the greenscreen and the old magic that made it fit.

Deeper Blue is some Metal Gear Solid-level naming convention

the thing with deep blue, if you believe the official answers anyway, is that it was unstable, it crashed all the time meaning there were no logs of anything and it had to be continually rebooted and fed the board state all over again, so the reason it was torn apart in secrecy was to try find evidence of what the heck caused that move. and its not actually totally disassembled, they did put it back together, but it was a two rack system and the two racks were separated for display in different locations where i believe they can still be seen publicly

“Ask any racer- any real racer. It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning is winning.”

Imagine being the first guy to get "GG no Re"d by an AI

when I was 12-15 years old, somewhere around there..my sister used to have a boyfriend who would challenge me on whatever fighting game I happen to have. which weren't many. and whenever I won he would get up, turn the ps2 off by pressing the power button and then storm off. it was the most unnecessary shit ever, I never even trash talked because it's just not my thing.

ha, my older brother is the type of fighting-game-player that memorizes all the combos and frame-perfect skills, while i basically only button-mash (and sometimes forget which character I am). so as a kid, i would frantically push buttons until something cool happened and win, and he would turn to me and say "How did you do that?!" and I would just shrug because I genuinely didn't know XD it happenes in EVERY game that uses move combos, even ones that aren't necessarily PvP arena fighters

Deep Thought was the computer in the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy

The Goh computer Mr. Magooing around is basicly the equivalent of playing againt your friend in Smash in one of their first ever games and they pop off a cracked combo out of nowhere and have no idea how it happened. Shits spooky.

Tic tac toe actually becomes a functional game if both players goal is to loose and make the other person win. Same with Connect Four. Give it a try, it’s surprising how quickly it becomes a fun game.

My dad for years could play me in chess while in the other room. Never looking at the chess board watching the Three stooges and beat me in chess. I beat him one time. Never played him again until he passed away. One up

So here's a terrifying thought about this ChatGPT, imagine if someone feed it the complete works of Shakespeare? Which lets face it, someone will do that at some point, even if just for giggles. But then we could have "sequels" or "unknown lost works" from the bard, or any other writer whose no longer alive.

One time when I was a kid at boy scout camp I beat two kids in a row at chess while under the effects of my rescue inhaler and I clearly remember not planning ahead at all

My kids hated playing Tekken anything with me because I would whoop their asses with every character in any game from the Tekken franchise, I was a horrible father…😂

The fact that calling Magnus a "World Chess Grandmaster" feels like an understatement is really funny.

please live stream the Karl vs Karl's dad rematch!!

Smash bros: either you don't care about or understand it at all or you're sweaty and mildly obsessed and must reference it in metaphor every opportunity to the active detriment of my comprehension.

“Chat gpt which can go fuck itself” Ah yes somebody lost to the sudden Queen spawning ai

I was playing uno 2v2 last night with my friend and when we won the last round and the game against the ai, the game completely froze and crashed. I don’t care what actually happened, in my mind the game just rage quit and that’s much funnier.

Standing up is sooooo much nicer energy

This is a pretty great topic given how chess is taking off in popularity nowadays

One of my class assignments in school was to write a chess bot that couldn't be beaten. It was possible for a college student because we didn't have a performance runtime requirement, so if the bot took 4 minutes to think about every move that was acceptable. That meant a brute force, recursive playthrough of every possible move given the current state of the board could be played virtually and the move that led to the most favorable ends would be the one it played. And if it's playing the most optimal move every time, then the best a human opponent could do is draw. The only issue is that it takes time to run through all those combinations, which is why systems like Alpha0 and Deep Blue use more nuanced methods to make decisions in real-time. But if time between moves wasn't a factor, I'm sure they could have implemented a better version of that homework project. The point of the assignment was to teach us recursion, but it also demonstrated how chess has limitations that games like Go don't. Last time I looked it up, Go is still an open problem in computer science.

If I lost too many times to a chess bot, I'd be like Kurt Russell in The Thing at the very beginning when he played against a chess computer, lost, and then poured alcohol into its system lmfao

Dude, I encountered that player in halo 2, that would kill you and hide in a vs match. It was the only time I ever did it, myself, and I was _goooood_ at hiding, lol.

Can we just a video of you guys telling stories of videos. Funny or epic video game moments you had. Or just more of that at the end of your videos. Love it!

I am 90% certain Deep Thought/Blue/Blue II were expert systems programmed by hand. It would be shown board states from high-level chess games, and hired Grandmasters would help with fine tuning how the machine rated those board states. I was also under the impression most Stockfish variants were similar in principle. No, actual Machine Learning would only really hit the field with Deepmind's Alpha series. First with AlphaGo, then AlphaGo Zero which required no human data, and eventually generalized in AlphaZero to play multiple games. Now there is MuZero which can learn through self play and observation, all without being explicitly told the rules. I don't know, it's just important to remember most of these advancements are from the last 10 years. Heck, the GPT design making waves is less than 5 years old! Progress is amazing, and it will be neat to see if it continues at its current exponential rate!

"Teabagging is a show of respect like touching gloves at the start of ufc" Words to live by 😁

fact fiend needs to be around forever.

i love whenever you guys use tbfp footage

Fun fact someone set up an entire Redstone system just to play Minecraft in Minecraft

I swear to an imagined deity, Karl, your clickbait titles are so intriguing that I can’t help but click on them. Damn you, lol.

It's the dril tweet! "I'm not owned, I'm not owned!" I insist as a slowly shrink and transform into a corn cob

Know what I wanna see? I wanna see 5D Chess Grand Masters!

Now, THIS, is a video to watch and learn 🙂🙃👍

Mind games: on the one end of the spectrum, you're the stick in the mud who will have absolutely no fun in their videogame for children. On the exact opposite end, you're playing like a psychopath. In the vast spectrum between, memes become legends.

It's hard to explain to laypeople how huge the difference is between human players and chess engines nowadays, but imagine putting a scrawny teenager in a boxing ring with Tyson in his prime, then you give the teenager sedatives and augment Tyson with cyborg tech, and you're almost there. Just 3 years ago I would've given Carlsen a tiny change to draw a game, but as it stands now the difference is almost unfathomable. Edit: I'm not sure if it's obvious, but my comparison is made more to be in line with Karl and his audience and less about actual accuracy, I'm pretty sure it's not unfeasible to put vague number guesses for the chances. Also, I love you for adding a clip of Captain L's turbo teabagging video, it's probably my favourite Ultimate video ever made.

This video is just delightful

dead island multiplayer.. my buddy walked into a bunker and there was two squeakers, one was showing off a weapon to the other by dropping it on the ground, and we didnt know that when he dropped a deo grenade in with them. so after they died there was a uber gun for us just sitting there lol

I've never had so much pleasure in life than scoring a couple sweaty goals against a better player on FIFA and doing the dab celebration and not skipping the replays , you can just feel the opponent's rage, it's toxic but I love it😂

YOUR BACK, WOHOO

I remember I was at an anime convention and they had a very casual Ultra Street Fighter 4 tournament. I remember just jumping in for funsy and I ended getting 3rd place because I had to leave during the finals after beating my way in. Some guy got mad at me cause I trolled him with M. Bison and spammed Psycho Crusher the entire round, literally juggling him for the whole round back and forth. The guy got so mad so he demanded a rematch so we went to the back room and he picked his main Ken, so I picked Dudley, and then studded on him in the back room with actual effort and combos, so I did get 2-nil on some poor salt gamer out there

As a computer scientist it's almost a trivial problem to "solve" chess. There are finite board states, and each board state has however many subsequent states, except for the terminal game states where there's a win/lose/draw condition. This is why it took longer to solve go than chess, there's many many more possible states. The naive approach would be to store all those board states in memory and take moves that maximizes the probability of a winning game state, a more advanced approach, and what I assume most chess playing programs use now, is to train a neural network to make the "right" decision say 99% of the time, then the neural network parameters can be saved and loaded later at much less memory and power cost, say on your phone.

Yay! Thank you for this topic. AI is here to stay and scary stuff.

A.I: i've analized over a billion different moves no strategy can defeat me inferior human: you're using strategies?

So fact fiend has become an inside joke with my discord friends. "So Far away Kat" "Far away Greg"

They should’ve named the final chess bot “Grand blue”

Here's the trick about most game "AI": it's not AI, it's just a few simple algorithms coupled with semi-random moves to give an illusion of intelligence. It appears intelligent, costs barely any processing power, and is a lot of fun to play against.

Fit looks fire today as always

This made me laugh so much

Makes me think of the boxing anime, " The Fighting, Hajime No Ippo " 'why is only using one hand?!'

This is the equivlent of like that 1v1 player on cod that beats you once and doesnt do a rematch with you

Hey! I'm someone who has been going back and forth on how I feel about ChatGPT. Interested that you took such a stance against it. I'd love to see you do a video talking about it. (for the record, I'm fine with it being a couch video)

The green screen is iconic now.

Deep Thought is that super computer in Hitchhikers guide to the Galaxy too

Deepest blue was probably used for spare parts.

For those who don't get how Chess AI like Stockfish work, here's a rundown: Chess AI work by calculating every possible move they can make given the current game state. Chess is what we call a game with "Perfect knowledge", which means that every piece of board information is known by every player. Chess also does not have an infinite number of possible unique board states. Deep Blue has a MASSIVELY high computational power, so it can do what is called a "Brute Force" calculation where it goes as deep as it can given the move and pick what computationally is the best move at that board state. However because Deep Blue is purely brute force it plays more like a brick wall coming at you. Which Garry Kasparov was able to exploit by doing moves not traditionally done in Chess. This was the Chess equivalent to exploiting fighting game AI by doing the same sequence of moves over and over. Alpha-Zero, which is mentioned in this video. Uses Neural networks to try and solve chess. They have no concept of what is considered textbook Chess, they basically play chess randomly by picking different moves which rewards or punishes them for winning/losing/capturing or losing pieces. Over time they begin to recognize that different board states should be responded to with a similar output. Stockfish uses a more aggressive search tree, as it will prioritize looking at the shortest possible game first.

9:27 Vegeta in the tournament of power

Oh thank goodness. I missed the screen so muxh

I'm really liking this A.I. Lucas.

Glad to see the green screen back!

My dad used to send us to bed so he could play Mario Kart 64 without getting schooled outright every race.

Finally got my brother to play Mortal Kombat 11 with me. I didn’t want to go super hard because I wanted him to play more than once. So I pick a random character, and he ends up winning. He then retired with a “perfect record” and I’m still quite salty about it today. Mostly because he didn’t play fighting games with me after that, but also because that is an epic way to troll an opponent.

Great video

Fun Fact: they actually changed the name to Deep Blue in reference to the working title film of Star wars known as Blue Harvest

They don't ask how, they ask how many - Karl and Brad

Mortal kombat vs dc i had 500 wins 2 losses in online and people would refuse my challenge when the saw my win loss ratio so it got to the point where if someone refused to fight me i would post in public chat that i won by default, i used to have to piss people off to get them to fight me, good times. I mained superman unless they went flash then i would go kano because his cannon ball hits flash whenever they use a special move, they just super speed into you and get hit removing all their specials while you just sit back and long range them waiting for them to try a move then cannon ball and go back to long range knife, then challenge them again, they refuse, i win by default, or if they accept and go someone else i dominate with superman, rinse and repeat. I would laugh so hard when they raged and mock them in the public chat goading someone else to fight me. Winning by default because everyone is scared is the best

The green screen is always a great touch, you don’t even need to use it lol.

Glad to hear this story

There's a misconception that great chess players plan 5 moves ahead, they plan pretty much the whole game in their heads the only problem is so do their opponents. It brings to mind the qoute "all plans are perfect until the first shot is fired". Meaning basically you will always have the perfect t plan to win but so does your opponent and as soon as their move doesn't match your plan your plan is f@cked. Another qoute is no plan survives contact with the enemy. So yeah great player plan 5 moves ahead, exceptional players plan for their opponents 5 moves and counter.

Does anyone know if halo has custom/private matches? A fact fiend hosted 1 kill hide & seek tournament would be big fun

Now let’s see it take on the great Gungi master Komogi

Holy hell, who mixed the audio for this. Why is Lucas so damn loud!

Used to play chess against my mate who was a county champion at one point, he was considerably better than me and knew the game inside out, my best strategy was to get drunk and stoned to a point that i didnt know what i was doing ergo if i dont know what im gonna do, hes not either

Here's the thing...i don't know how to play chess. I know the rules of chess but i don't know how to play chess and that's the case with most people. Regular people playing chess are basically playing on a reaction basis...one player plays one piece and the other player reacts to that piece and plays another piece. Grand Masters don't do that...they play on a combo basis. When a GM plays a piece he's actually starting a pre-established combo. That combo is only broken if a) the player messes up the combo or b) the opposing player recognizes the combo and respondes with the pre-established counter to that specific combo or even with superior one. GMs mostly only play against other GMs, so after a few years i believe they become so accustomed to this style of engagement that situations like this could easily happen. A random, non-sensical but legal move in a GM level match would easily throw a player off-guard and even make him start to question himself and the opposition..."he's a master but he plays that?", "i don't know that play", "did he make a mistake or something", and the true finishing blow "his he seeing something that i don't?".

"Have you ever seen Wargames?" "No." Why didn't you cuss that dude out immediately. That's criminal.

Karl the king of Halo guerilla warfare

I've kinda did that before. I was playing pool and a shark wanted to challenge me. He said want to play for money. My broke ass needing money said how much? He said $20 I said sure. I beat him knowing he was more than likely better than me and threw the match to sink me in. He said rematch I said nope have a nice night and thanks for the beer money. He kept on and on but I played him better then he tried to play me.

Call me crazy but I used to watch your videos almost religiously, a while back you just stop showing up on my feed… though hey maybe y’all took a extended break or something it happens. 6 months later you pop back up in my feed the pure excitement that came over me had to be mentioned. Thanks for giving countless hours of entertainment.

Anyone else think this guy would make a good “Dr Who”?