Failed! 2857 grinds to a halt, unable to release the train brakes.

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MyLoveOfRailways

MyLoveOfRailways

10 жыл бұрын

The story of what happened one afternoon when GWR 2-8-0 2857 caused disruption to the Severn Valley Railway timetable on 16/09/13 by being unable to release the train brakes. Due to leave Kidderminster on the 12:20 departure with the LNER teak rake, 2857 found it was unable to move the train. The first coach was suspected to be preventing the train brakes from being released and was removed, but 2857 again couldn't move the train, and so 2857 took over the LMS rake that had arrived behind Erlstoke Manor. (The 12:20 was due to cross this train at Arley but the first shot shows Erlstoke Manor as it calls at Bewdley still without having crossed the expected service).
2857 still struggled to move the LMS rake, but eventually got under way about 55 minutes late.
The train ran ok until brakes were applied to slow the train to go into platform 1 at Bewdley. The engine was unable to release the train brakes and ground to a halt straddling the turnout from the single track into the line for platform 1. On the video you can see railway staff on the ground checking the brakes on engine and train.
After around 20 minutes 2857 managed to drag the train into the platform where the service was terminated. With platform 1 out of use due the failure, platform 2 was also taken out of use to protect the fitters working around the engine.
With services in both directions already disrupted, all trains now had to use platform 3 while the fitters tried to work out why the brakes could be released on the engine, but it could not release the brakes on the train. Even the hand-propelled truck pushed by the gangers had to use platform 3, followed by class 50 'Hood'.
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@olly5764
@olly5764 10 жыл бұрын
I was the second man on the 50 that day, you can see me checking the train as we departed with the up train. The issue was that the flexiable rubber vacuum pipe between the engine and tender had collapsed, there by, effectivly sealing its self off, meaning only the brake on the engine was comming off. Incidently, the 50 was covering for a failed class 20, and I was covering the second man's turn as no one was available, I should have been guarding a pre-gala goods move, which didn't happen in the end until the next day, and using steam traction!
@MrTinyUK
@MrTinyUK 10 жыл бұрын
A Most enjoyable sequence. Many thanks for sharing. '-)
@railbaron1
@railbaron1 5 жыл бұрын
Shows how powerful that engine is, dragging her feet in.
@bskorupk
@bskorupk 9 жыл бұрын
Got any bootlaces handy?
@colliecandle
@colliecandle 8 жыл бұрын
On a positive note - the effectiveness and SAFETY of vacuum braking is illustrated here ! Fail safe demonstrated to work - I'd much rather be a passenger ( or crew member ) on a train where the braking system worked as it should, despite the ' inconvenience ' ! People need to remember this aspect (no pun intended) when using any rail transport.
@yelloweyeball
@yelloweyeball 5 жыл бұрын
3:55 Some boys have a conversation on the platform..... boy 1 "Look! there's a new tank engine." boy 2 "Oh, it's only Erlestoke Manor back to front."
@benters3509
@benters3509 8 жыл бұрын
Always used to call them "Back to Front Engines" when I was a little boy.
@johnbeck7019
@johnbeck7019 3 жыл бұрын
Great video just shows how BR worked it may have been late but it arrived safely
@bledlbledlbledl
@bledlbledlbledl 4 жыл бұрын
"Loco failure!" ... loco en la CABEZA, at least the brakes failed the SAFE WAY, and didn't let the train run away off down some hill with no brakes at all
@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329
@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329 2 жыл бұрын
1:33 Yeah you can clearly see something was wrong
@PeakeyFortySix
@PeakeyFortySix 10 жыл бұрын
A great deal of chaos, a real nightmare!
@bugalugs661
@bugalugs661 10 жыл бұрын
On preserved Railways...these things are sent to try us..!
@JohnPW22
@JohnPW22 10 жыл бұрын
Nicely captured sequence! Would be nice to know the cause! You didn't capture D444 in 2004 braking down mid route with me on board for my 40th birthday drivers experience? No? Shame, bet that caused a few headaches for a few minutes - just after Arley got an airlock in the fuel pumps on a single track stretch - all had to be hand primed in no small temp! The instructors were great! Was very scary seeing the dials go crazy and the engine rev! Cheers!
@Scottish-girl
@Scottish-girl 5 жыл бұрын
Such beauty
@catlover2368
@catlover2368 10 жыл бұрын
I am just smiling and happy seeing some steam engines still running here :D what type of whistles do these beauty's have?
@mattseymour8637
@mattseymour8637 10 жыл бұрын
Its all going on here, the event of the day :) maybe its the 2-8-0 being awkward because it doesnt want to pull passanger stock as it was designed for freight
@interlinkplus8236
@interlinkplus8236 9 жыл бұрын
Sir Toppum Hat was very cross. "Henry, you have caused confusion and delay, you are not a very useful engine! All the children at the station cried...you Brits crack me up!
@SonicDashie759
@SonicDashie759 8 жыл бұрын
Interlink Plus It's James. Not Henry.
@renegadeoflife8774
@renegadeoflife8774 8 жыл бұрын
+Interlink Plus James has this happen from time to time, not Henry. Jammed brakes is a thing, and then they get Percy to push the train- right into a switch failure.
@gollypo448
@gollypo448 8 жыл бұрын
+Interlink Plus hey, man! Sacred cow alert! Anyway, T the TE knocks twelve bells out of Casey Jones. Tooot tooooot, said Thomas.
@gollypo448
@gollypo448 8 жыл бұрын
Nah, Casey Jones the loco off of Dumbo.
@sockshandle
@sockshandle 5 жыл бұрын
@@SonicDashie759 No its not James class was all scrapped I'm afraid same as Edwards
@MrRoblox848
@MrRoblox848 Жыл бұрын
How did it even Get stuck?
@robinfryer479
@robinfryer479 3 жыл бұрын
Pull the brake release chains?
@leonellopez354
@leonellopez354 6 жыл бұрын
Guatemala legend 204
@kellyashfordtrains2642
@kellyashfordtrains2642 4 жыл бұрын
These things are set out to try us. At least Erlestoke Manor didn't have any problems.
@alfa1134
@alfa1134 9 жыл бұрын
So does this count as the "Great Western Way" or the "Wrong Way"?
@tomsdailyvlogs7147
@tomsdailyvlogs7147 8 жыл бұрын
Lner= better
@spencerhardy8667
@spencerhardy8667 8 жыл бұрын
+Toms Daily Vlogs LMS = The best :)
@KR15MES
@KR15MES 7 жыл бұрын
GWR= "Gods Worst Railway" lol
@sirjamesperry
@sirjamesperry 7 жыл бұрын
said nobody ever
@KR15MES
@KR15MES 7 жыл бұрын
I was quoting my friend.
@railnut21
@railnut21 9 жыл бұрын
I spy with my little eyes the ever resourceful Phil Brown in this video, (regular worker and volunteer at the ffestiniog railway)
@MrHeesbeen
@MrHeesbeen 6 жыл бұрын
Had somebody been messing about and pulled the communication cord for a laugh ?
@bennickss
@bennickss 4 жыл бұрын
Huh? It used platform 3 for once?
@NickRatnieks
@NickRatnieks 8 жыл бұрын
I bought shares in 2857 back in 1971. I want my money back! I still have a letter from Paul Burns somewhere.
@renegadeoflife8774
@renegadeoflife8774 8 жыл бұрын
+NickRatnieks It wasn't 2857's fault from the sound of it, the problem was with the coaches.
@AECEntertainment
@AECEntertainment 7 жыл бұрын
3:37 wrong way to get off a loco
@TXGTR
@TXGTR 8 жыл бұрын
And there's me thinking the train had shit itself.
@alanwaines2085
@alanwaines2085 6 жыл бұрын
2857 will be amazing just you wait
@thicckinkydaddy4243
@thicckinkydaddy4243 9 жыл бұрын
The reason why it did this is because the brakes broke and the brakes wouldn't come off
@BCSchmerker
@BCSchmerker 10 жыл бұрын
#2857's pneumatics failing to release the train brakes when the locomotive's own brakes work as advertised? Sounds as though the locomotive may have had some junk in a release pipe, and/or a broken recharge valve (assuming the train is equipped with Westinghouse-style brakes, either tread or disc). Where exactly was the failure?
@c2757
@c2757 10 жыл бұрын
Brakes are vacuum. No pneumatics involved.
@renegadeoflife8774
@renegadeoflife8774 8 жыл бұрын
+B. C. Schmerker You can hear the engine's brake pump working overtime too. One of the coaches must have had a vacuum leak in it that kept the rest of the train from reaching operating pressure. A diesel wouldn't care, it would just drag the coach along unwillingly till the brake shoes were burnt right off. But a historic steam engine is usually handled much more gently, and the crew would notice when a coach was uncooperative. This is all British rolling stock as well, so Vacuum brakes instead of pressure brakes like American railways use.
@atombombproductions2118
@atombombproductions2118 10 жыл бұрын
cool! I could be an apprentice there soon, if there is a space.
@thedarknessofknight6440
@thedarknessofknight6440 9 жыл бұрын
heelfan1234 why would they do that?
@thedarknessofknight6440
@thedarknessofknight6440 9 жыл бұрын
Wow but they are preserved machines that are part of history if they were mainline service then yes scrap but just a small line they are the least of our worries
@thedarknessofknight6440
@thedarknessofknight6440 9 жыл бұрын
History is dying :(
@JohnSmith-pd1fz
@JohnSmith-pd1fz 9 жыл бұрын
heelfan1234 Aaah yes, heelfan! Trolling your declared hatred of anything older than you are on here as well? What a sad little non-entity you are!
@davehowe4714
@davehowe4714 8 жыл бұрын
+heelfan1234 give up on the scrapping issue please, it's old and boring. Also to throw a spanner in your master plan to rid the world of steam the P2 group are currently engaged in the construction of another fine example of steam.
@oldtimerparade
@oldtimerparade 10 жыл бұрын
Nice steam trains
@PieAndChips
@PieAndChips 7 жыл бұрын
"Turnout" :/
@brianblessing8369
@brianblessing8369 4 жыл бұрын
poor henry has brake release problems
@davidantoniocamposbarros7528
@davidantoniocamposbarros7528 3 жыл бұрын
Henry is an LMS Black 5
@jma7930
@jma7930 10 жыл бұрын
there was more work done when she got back to bridgnorth
@jma7930
@jma7930 10 жыл бұрын
Heelfan why would we scrap some of the locos and how is it health and safety
@clareholzapfel3676
@clareholzapfel3676 8 жыл бұрын
99 like
@BENDOESMINECRAFT10
@BENDOESMINECRAFT10 9 жыл бұрын
And so The GWR failed as usual even on a preserved line.(not the manor but the 28xx)
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