Angel is an example of a spin off done right.

As far as what David Boreanaz was up to... he immediately went to Bones another hit show. Then to Seal Team or whatever it is called. The dude has been working non stop since literally being a regular on Buffy. One thing he didn't need was work.

I don't blame Eliza Dushku for not wanting to rush to reprise her role of Faith, as she needed some sort of break following filming.

Of top of a head: *How I met Your father* and *That 80s Show* .

The Buffy animates series didn’t have to fit into the continuity of the live action show. It could have been great as its own thing. And Dawn being there makes sense and would have been very interesting. Because, don’t forget, the monks who made her retconned her into their lives. So in a sense she WAS there back then.

Part of the reason it probably doesn't work is because I read it was shot originally as a standard pilot and when it wasn't picked up they repurposed the footage into an episode of the Office. So my guess is the B story for the office characters would have been a different B story involving the Farm and it all probably would have flowed better. It was never supposed to be a backdoor pilot. I definitely remember reading way back when that they had to retool it to make it into an office episode after it was passed on by NBC

I really enjoyed Dollhouse, an interesting concept that never quite reached it's full potential. It got better as it went along, and second season was better than first.

Are you not forgetting the fact that Alan Ritchson would play my favourite DC hero, Hawk, in Titans?

The farm didnt happen. It did not.

Adrianne Palicki, who was in "Smallville" played Wonder Woman in a new version of WW.

Angel was such a damn good show, and could have potentially been spun off into a movie, if Paramount or one of the other big studios wanted it, especially since now they seem to be producing a lot more high budget series, rather than movies for streaming, instead of theatres.

It's funny because the backdoor pilot is about the funeral of a woman we just met the prior episode

Saw BtVS on the thumbnail after reading the video's title and thought AtS isn't a failed spinnoff and all the actual failed spinoff ideas were incorparated into the canon comics. Glad he acknowledged these things. Not everyone does. Not acknowledging that with characters having memories of Dawn the animated show could have been a continuation by looking back at what they know after Dawn shows up in S5. That's the way I viewed it, and how it works with Buffy's dream sequence in the comics. Since this is coming out during the BtVS 22:30-22:40 rant complaint issue, I will explain that it isn't another S8. It is an audio show set ten years after the TV show (2.5 years after the comics as there was a year and a half in-between BtVS S7 show end and S8 comics start [a year for AtS S5 then a half year after that for setup to the plot of S8] leaving 7.5 years of BtVS and AtS comics. The announced summary is: _Spike (James Marsters) has gone deep undercover in Los Angeles, convincing the forces of darkness that he’s back to his evil ways. When his cover is compromised by sixteen-year-old Indira Nunnally (Laya DeLeon Hayes), Spike finds himself on baby-slayer-sitting duty once more. While he attempts to track down a watcher for his eager new protégé, their paths collide with the veteran Slayer of a parallel reality where Buffy Summers never existed...a reality where Cordelia Chase (Charisma Carpenter) is the one-and-only Slayer. She needs Spike’s help with a classic big bad terrorizing her world…his old flame, Drusilla (Juliet Landau)._ I have heard it canon an as of this comment it's been out two days and I haven't heard it yet, but plan to. Tom Welling didn't want to play Superman. He initially fought against the role altogether, but didn't want to be in the Superman suit at the end.

I have Angel after the fall and The Spike series too, the ones you showed and a couple more volumes. My pick prolly would have been Spike, Angel.was.always my favorite, but Spikes story was more interesting After the Fall. I didn't like Angel becoming a secret human and Wesley, he had the best arc for any character in the Buffyerse and they neutered him into a ghost and dragon named Cordelia... I don't know that was kinda fun lol I hope somebody reads this I never have anyone to talk Buffy Angel with being a 40 year old man lmao

I think the Buffyverse was treading water when it finished and all the spin offs would have probably failed at that point.

I don't watch your channel like that but I got to say you're pretty underrated dude. I wish you and you're channel nothing but success 💯🙏

Holy shit!That is Thomas Middleditch. So glad he dodged that bullet!

I was always hoping for that Ripper spinoff

We already have a _'Smallville'_ Season 11! It was a hugely brilliant graphic novel run which, now that we’ve had the *Arrowverse’s* _'Crisis on Infinite Earths'_ crossover event, is confirmed as canon!

That was a significantly different version of Ripper than the one I heard about all those years ago. The version I heard about was a prequel set during the time Giles was known as Ripper and would follow his exploits with people like Ethan Rayne recklessly exploring the Dark Arts.

Scrubs never had a season focusing on students while the main cast got shelved

Lol, "Faith based series".

Angel was a Vampire with a soul and 5 seasons under his Belt! NOT a failure

Sons and Daughters by the decemberists was not the theme song to the farm, lol.

I would totally watch an alternate timeline Ripper transported to the main Buffyverse and has to be in the guardianship of Giles. Also, Willow could just curse Gunn with a soul.

Didn’t Dwight already own the farm?

They did plan a green Arrow spinoff what tecnically never happened, but what in the end did create the show Arrow. What create it's own spinoff show, what in turn created it's own spinoff show.

I definitely would have been down for the "Buffy the vampire Slayer" cartoon. Although, I wouldn't have preferred season 1 to be where the episodes took place. Might have been better if it was given its own universe and storylines.

Never seen a whole episode of the office; not my cup of tea. Only thing I’ve ever seen is the hardcore parkour skit.

There was also a Smallville spinoff on Supergirl starring Laura Vandervoort. Shame that did not do further than a planned idea.

Smallville is my favorite live action series of all time. I can’t wait for the animated series and ty for giving more attention to a great show! They had picked up Aquaman as a series and it had a full page and section on The WB site. Then, when The CW became a thing, the president of The CW said it sucked because she didn’t have anything to do with it and canned it, even though they were picked up initially.

Damn, I didn't know people hated The Farm this much.

More Angel videos, Vee! Please!

Your favorite part features Badger! I don't even need to see the episode; that's definitely the best part.

I really liked the sister and her kid and thought they would have fit really well as cousins,but I hated the brother. I already loved Zeke and Mose! I would have loved a spin off that ran along side the Office as Dwight's life away from the Office while he still worked there. I totally would have watched that.

Dwight just isn’t as good of a character without Jim.

Justin even played batman in that spotify radio play with Christina Ricci

Aquaman was a bring pilot and I'm also glad he became green arrow

Angel hands down. I agree. Love it!

That spike movie sounds awesome

Adrianne Palicki... 😂Wait what? Star power? Lou Diamond Phillips!?

Not Aquaman related, but Miami Florida worked perfectly for the show burn notice and that’s a Spa Thriller Show from USA net work. Honestly, they use the landscape and did a lot of really interesting things for the seven seasons of the show.

In the comics Gunn was sired by a cult of zealot vampires that showed up during the big battle at the end of Angel.

Other failures Arrow - Green Arrow and the Canaries Supernatural - Whatever the sister hunters show would've been called Doctor Who - Class Friends - Joey The Mandalorian - Book of Boba Fett Battlestar Galactica - Caprica Babylon 5 - Crusade Trust me, there is no shortage of these around lol

Your new icon made think this was a different channel.

Season 7 of Buffy was actually my favourite. I loved the potentials So I guess everyone have their opinions also Angel was a really good serie. All seasons were great.

So glad Slayer School wasn’t a thing. That sounds awful 🤢

I bet the Smallville animated show won't have Allison Mack...

Hold up! there was an animated Buffy show??? That's wild, I've loved that show since I was like 16.

Tru Calling was amazing

I loved tru calling but I think i would prefer a faith show

The Faith series & Slayers both still happened with Whedon involved but as comics, with Slayers just being part of Season 8 and 9 of the Buffy comic series. Faith was made but alongside Angel for a continuation of both Season 9 of Buffy and Angel: After the Fall, which yes I can see you mentioned but wanted to further elaborate on it. There's now a new series that's completely different called Slayers on audible, a podcast with most of the original cast returning. Tru Calling was such a great series that was screwed over by the Writers Strike. The Giles show was supposed to be The Watchers, which is why Anthony Head left during Season 6. But they couldn't get it off the ground and bought him back as a guest star. I never heard of them wanting to repurpose it after the Season 8 show. The animated series would've been showing us the world of Season 1 with Dawn in it. The false memories the Monks added in there. So the continuity would've been different. Many fans wondered how the alternate memories would've looked like from what we got.

It’s a shame. The British had a bunch of shows in the style of the office that was good. My favorite being in the thick of it. It’s about a munch of mid level government employees who indirectly work for the prime minister and parliament. All the back room people who aren’t that import and you don’t really see on the news or if you do you don’t recognize them. But who think they are hot shit cause they can say they work for the prime minister.

Ha they gave they Awuaman episode away for free on Xbox 360 live

Oh Aquaman. I suspect that they might have cast a bunch of prior actors because they had them. Aside from the lead change, those actors were probably just filler until the show was picked up. Also, 20 bucks Ving Rhames was going to be Black Manta.

I was interested in the Spike seriesmoviething and the Ripper seriesmoviething

Thank you... THANK YOU for your take on the potentials, specially Kennedy. In my opinion the worst recurring character in all of Buffy. I think season 7 couldve been the best of them all, but all those side characters prevented it.

I wish we could of got Aquaman

The audio series Slayers a buffyverse story is a spike spin off

i always wanted to be angelus, but im a spike through and through.

that Buffy animated show would have been such a hit. sucks it never got made. i feel like if the franchise ever gets revived it should be animated. to bad they don't really make action cartoons anymore. unless you are something like Invincible made for streaming. otherwise its just going to look like a simplistic slice of life show with a Cal Arts, art style

What is it with executives thinking they can take a comedy side character and make him a main character.

It would have never worked. Rain Wilson is not funny, and a horrible actor. Wilson is a clear example of a person that should not be allowed to hold a camera without supervision. Additionally, keep a writing utensil and paper from this man.

Faith show would have been good. Eliza could support one. Spike too. James could 100% carry a show. Ripper would be great too. Anthony HAS carried shows.

You will love Dollhouse. I would be interested in your views

Buffy over Angel. But Angel wasn't bad... just had moments that made it mediocre.

its aquaman and alan is HOT so yeah we watched that aquman ep of smallville a LOT. cw also promoted the heck out of that episode. will never forget those days.

Seriously, you didn't like Scott's Tots?

Orm is Arthurs brother........wth

I would have loved Ripper or Btams

I liked Buffy and loved Angel, but who is Josh?

Diet Smallville hahahahaha😂😂😂😂😂

I'll still watch The Farm before Mafia.

I know where Zeke was. He was on NCIS.

god damn man... scare alert in 24:33

I mean Green Acres was on a farm and was funny.

zeke was the fat guy in clouds group in ff7 remake wasn't he? I know he was the dad in the show mom

Have there been many successful spinoffs? I can remember the Jeffersons was good but no other spinoff comes to mind as being good.

I loved this episode idk what your talking about seeing him with his nephew was sweet

Team Spike baby!

Molly the British slayer was awful (the one who spoke in 70 slang)

you skipped the birds of prey tv show that was cancelled mid first season. was a good show but rushed and a mix bag of strong and poor dialog. plus studio interference. it would be nice to do a episode just for the show. is a cult show now, and in the arrowverse on the flash when many multiverses where destroyed, birds of prey universe (203) was destroyed as well. cool for the actress to reprise her role to show us huntress and her universe to be erased from existance.

Joss not Josh

Please do Angel

I guess that Spike project wasn't really what Whedon wanted. Too many female leads he could... "interact" with regularly.

Joss. Not Josh.

the pacing of this video is just tedium defined.

I remember reading about the Buffy cartoon in Wizard magazine. Wait, you’re white? I thought you were Hispanic.

Your script could’ve used a few more drafts, kiddo. Yikes.

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Like your videos... but I just want to state one criticism of the "The day... died" series... I've watched 3 of these and don't have a huge attention span... so, I forgot each time why I started watching them, until the middle of the 3rd video. I went into each video thinking you were going to define an exact moment/episode where the plot went wrong and the show/movie saga went downhill. Neither of these videos do that. At least not explicitly, which is what I went in expecting. For future videos of those, I would like to see you actually tell the audience, explicitly, where you think the show went wrong and started its fall from frame.

Maybe it’s just me but I thought dollhouse was underrated

There's talk of doing a THE OFFICE reboot. They will announce details after the strikes end

Cool But more wrestling content Vee

THE OFFICE SUCKS

This was the first time that I had even heard that the Americans had even ripped off the Office in the first place.

Eliza Dushku seems to be in a lot of failed shows.

do you even like the office??????? i mean i can even think of one bad episode and you just hated on several that are pretty good. LOVE scott's tots "we all going to college but not really but we thought we would" hahahaha HILARIOUS

Dude ive been suggesting the dad american dad died for years and all you keep doing is the same topics constanly.

So not to be that guy, but none of these are really spin-offs, just pilots or basic ideas for a spin-off, I guess I was expecting stuff more like The 80's Show (sure you've covered it) or at least shows that got made, but failed, like Joey (sure you covered it), I guess these are true failures in ever sense of the word, so good job I guess.