Failing to Summit Ben Nevis in Scotland via CMD Ridge (DON'T DO THIS!)

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Jonathan Lundmark

Jonathan Lundmark

Күн бұрын

Failing to summit Ben Nevis from Fort William in Scotland when hiking via the north face ridge Càrn Mòr Dearg Arête (CMD). We faced stormy winds and mist covering the steep ridge as we reached a point that involved climbing.
In poor weather conditions I recommend picking the "mountain path" trail over the Carn Mor Daerg to reach the summit as it otherwise require some climbing with steep drops.
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:26 Hiking Ben Nevis
4:07 Weather Gets Worse
6:20 Trail Guide & Alternative Path
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@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark Жыл бұрын
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@scoundrel1975
@scoundrel1975 10 ай бұрын
Combining your gut instinct, your general sense of well-being and your every day common sense while tackling a life or death situation over wanting to achieve the initial goal is a massive achievement in itself, we'll done guys you live to climb another day - Kudos 👏🏻
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for pointing that out amigo!
@philippine666
@philippine666 27 күн бұрын
Very interesting. I turned back on my 1st climb on tourist route winter climb. Minus 17 degrees. January. Completed 2nd climb May. Great educational video. Thank you.
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark 27 күн бұрын
Thank you very much, glad you found it helpful!
@christophermorrison5715
@christophermorrison5715 Жыл бұрын
Such a responsible climber knowing when to turn back. Well done sir 👍🏻
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@eliasfriman9445
@eliasfriman9445 Жыл бұрын
It was a pleasure! Can't wait for the next one
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark Жыл бұрын
Indeed it was and likewise!
@hikesome
@hikesome Жыл бұрын
Another great video! Best thing to do, that's also part of the challenge to make the right decisions at the right time ;) Incredibly beautiful scenery and a huge challenge, great adventure!
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad you liked it.
@TerrapinTrader
@TerrapinTrader Жыл бұрын
Scottish weather can be so harsh - but I'll remember that tip if and when I get to Ben Nevis- which my grandfather climbed over a hundred years ago. Great video again.
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark Жыл бұрын
Thank you (again)! Glad you enjoyed this video too. Indeed the weather was very unpredictable in Scotland - quickly changing from one way to the other. Just after we descended it started clearing up again...
@bighardonforhiking6764
@bighardonforhiking6764 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the crisp quality of the video
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@colincodona7836
@colincodona7836 8 ай бұрын
My "friend" took me on this route recently without any prior knowledge, luckily we survived. I commend you for turning back
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark 8 ай бұрын
Congrats on getting back down!
@redmanwalking74
@redmanwalking74 Жыл бұрын
Good call. Thanks for posting this. Too many people make bad choices in the mountains and then mountain rescue need to risk their own lives to come help you or worst case scenario, someone looses their life.
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad to hear
@user-on9rl7rz1l
@user-on9rl7rz1l Жыл бұрын
Another wonderful adventure. So peacefull and relax video. It was scared when you came down the mountains. Strong wind, fog and tiny trails made it very difficult))
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it, indeed a bit scary scrambling.
@jimf671
@jimf671 Ай бұрын
I would not recommend this long approach to CMD Arete. It is more than a 1500m (Vert.) day anyway and this route makes it steeper and maybe a bit longer. The best way to approach the CMD Arete route is from the North Face Car Park at Torlundy and up the Allt a'Mhuillin path before breaking out left around NN151744 and gently ascending the toe of the ridge. This way you have a gentler ascent, no large streams to cross and you get magnificent views of the rugged north face much sooner. What this does not save you from is the exposure on some parts of the top section of the ridge and the extreme winds that can be channelled up Coire Leis and cause dangerous conditions as you cross from Carn Mor Dearg to Ben Nevis. Where they turned back is near where these winds can get extreme. By this time you have already summited a 1220m mountain so the day is not wasted! Once you continue beyond this point, up the Ben Nevis side of the narrow ridge and onto easier ground, you MUST get your navigation correct. People go the wrong way here even in good visibility so it is wise to get your map out and make sure you avoid both the cliffs to the right and the apparently-benign but dreadfully dangerous ground to the left. A good navigating phone app with Ordnance Survey 1:25000 mapping and GNSS will be particularly useful (OS Maps, Topo GPS, Outdooractive, ... ...). After finding the summit structures, finding the descent path can also be difficult in poor visibility. Once down near the 'half-way lochan' (NN147724), take the path to the North to return to the car park at Torlundy.
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark Ай бұрын
Thank you for this very informative comment 🙏
@jonny1903
@jonny1903 Ай бұрын
Yeah I was slightly confused why they didn't follow normal approach initially
@davidtunnah4117
@davidtunnah4117 Жыл бұрын
Great video - thanks for sharing!
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@johnsettlage
@johnsettlage Жыл бұрын
Your videography just keeps getting better and better. Wonderful footage and a great story. Makes me want to go back and try to summit Ben Nevis. Thanks for your amazing talents.👍
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark Жыл бұрын
🙇 Thank you very much for those kind words!
@tichmebadthangz1483
@tichmebadthangz1483 3 ай бұрын
i was up last weeek and had th fight with my self to turn back but it was for the best , you always kicking yourself but its for the best , great video
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark 3 ай бұрын
Hehe I recognize that, and thanks!🙏
@davidgivenadventures
@davidgivenadventures 9 ай бұрын
You made the right decision to turn back.. always another day to conquer that route 💯⛰️🤜🤛
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for pointing that out 🙌 Felt like the right call
@TomAndJoeVlogsTJOutdoors
@TomAndJoeVlogsTJOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Nice one, really crisp video that love how you’ve worked the audio and a crisp footage. No shame about turning back, the weather and wind sounded awful. Ridge also looked very fairy, nice video though!
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark Жыл бұрын
Thank you! We were debating it at the time and it was a really hard choice to make being so close to the summit, but it was def. the right call given our circumstances! 🙏
@whimpihastarobbi5700
@whimpihastarobbi5700 Жыл бұрын
Great video my friend.. Good place, nice hiking! Thankyou for sharing.. keep it up to build this channel.. thankyou my friend
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark Жыл бұрын
Thank you, glad to hear!
@ivankaivanova8848
@ivankaivanova8848 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing,end of September there we go
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark 10 ай бұрын
My pleasure, if you enjoyed it please consider subscribing to my channel and best of luck to you in September!
@elisabethstoffel5079
@elisabethstoffel5079 Жыл бұрын
What a great mature decision to quit. Absolutely exemplary!
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark Жыл бұрын
Thank you 💪
@davidkennedy4912
@davidkennedy4912 Жыл бұрын
Hi great video full of info and not a fail just good sound judgement guys 🙌
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark Жыл бұрын
Thank you David, glad you found it informative!
@HarmenHoek
@HarmenHoek Жыл бұрын
Oh my, that Scottish weather ... Well captured nevertheless!
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark Жыл бұрын
Indeed treacherous! Thank you Harmen 🙇‍♂️
@jordanwalsh8171
@jordanwalsh8171 8 ай бұрын
Literally did the exact same thing today, in the same spot too!
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark 8 ай бұрын
Haha really? It wasn’t all easy turning back with that little left - congratulations for probably making the right call!
@jordanwalsh8171
@jordanwalsh8171 8 ай бұрын
@@JonathanLundmark yes really lol, the wind was really strong even down at the hut but I decided to check it out anyway, the higher I got the worse it got, add in clouds and rain n it was a bad combination, I was devastated but definitely the right thing to do, wouldn't want to descend down the hill again tho, almost broke my ankles a few times on the loose rocks, very taxing too!
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark 8 ай бұрын
Well sounds like at least we both got an adventure! Not the the hill I’d die on so to speak 😅
@simonlundgren6190
@simonlundgren6190 Жыл бұрын
Wow what a professional looking video! Are you doing this as your day 2 day work? Or are you working with other things?
@tubulzr
@tubulzr 5 ай бұрын
Unfortunate those conditions, having reached the ridge but a wise decision to not cross it. I've gone up the donkey trail to the snowy and unfortunately completely cloudy summit, with only some rain showers while climbing up. Very doable for anyone reasonably fit (and the right clothing+minimal gear, obviously). During a 'high route' part of the GGW, I've experienced wind that put/knocked me (and my 17 kg backpack) 2 steps next to the path. There was enough space around the path so no drama but that CMD ridge certainly doesn't allow for being blown a couple of steps sideways.
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark 5 ай бұрын
Thanks! ❤️
@jmc6720
@jmc6720 10 ай бұрын
I’m sorry you didn’t make it to the top, but from the video I think you made the right decision to turn back. I’m planning to go up the route that you attempted with my daughter next year, but only with food weather! Thanks so much for all the advice 👍🏼
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark 10 ай бұрын
I think we made the right call too but of course it would had been nice to see the top :) Best of luck to you!
@explorewithlloydi
@explorewithlloydi Жыл бұрын
that looked like a really interesting day of climbing
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark Жыл бұрын
Hehe that’s a nice way to put it!
@santoy1000
@santoy1000 5 ай бұрын
Aw such a shamed you abandoned the trek, tourist route is always best in unsettled weather 👍
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark 5 ай бұрын
Yup, safety first!
@kevclaremcd
@kevclaremcd 3 ай бұрын
Turning back is always the right decision if you feel uneasy. I wonder why you don't use at least one trekking stick, I find them invaluable for both uphill, but especially steep downhill as they act like a 'third' leg.
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark 3 ай бұрын
Thanks! Yep feels like we made the right call. Because of the camera with tripod sticks tend to get in the way :) Otherwise agree!
@markthomasson5077
@markthomasson5077 Жыл бұрын
Better to start from the North Face car park, then take the ridge path to CMD. It is quite a hard scramble across very big boulders and steep from where you turned back, though not all that difficult. In the mist on the summit plateau is where navigation is tricky, but once at the summit, the route down is straight forward. But good attempt and wise désirions to turn back if not happy. If you just retraced your route down from CMD, that was not best, must have been much worse going down. I would advise you take the east ridge then down into the hanging valley to the ruins of Steall at the top Glen Nevis.
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment! We did tetrace our route back the same way we went up CMD and indeed it was not an easy way back down but still managable. Interresting starting from the north face, why would you suggest starting from there? I suppose it’s a shorter hike but the walk up from Glen Nevis car park was very beautiful with the waterfalls!
@markthomasson5077
@markthomasson5077 Жыл бұрын
It is not surprisingly shorter from the North Face car park to the North Face. Still a fine walk, and not so busy.
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
@dougieranger
@dougieranger Жыл бұрын
I summited June 2013 and it was snowing heavily on top. I only took the pony track but it was still a tough hike.
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark Жыл бұрын
Nice! In retrospect perhaps we should have too :)
@dougieranger
@dougieranger Жыл бұрын
@@JonathanLundmark Well, the mountain will still be there for next time. You did the right thing Jonathan. I found it a bit of a plod from the pony track, perhaps because you must climb every single meter since the start is at sea level unlike many other mountains?
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark 9 ай бұрын
Yep might be it! Thanks, feels like we did the right thing. If you havent watched it yet and you liked this one I also have a similar video of the WHW, check it out if interrested :) It was my first solo hike
@dougieranger
@dougieranger 9 ай бұрын
@@JonathanLundmarkI will definitely check that out Jonathan.
@richardmichael1445
@richardmichael1445 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed your video. Looks like a fun way up. Why do you leave the ridge and go down to the left just before you turned around? Is it possible to just follow the ridge all the way? Get yourself some sealskinz waterproof socks. It saves taking your boots off. They work 100%. I failed to reach the summit in May 2021. I went the more popular route with crampons and an ice axe. It felt like overkill on equipment but the top was solid ice and hard snow. The wind kept blowing me over and the temperature dropped to -5. A mighty mountain to always be respected despite not being very high.
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark Жыл бұрын
Thank you! There was a path around it where people seemed to have walked which felt safer in those conditions as the ridge got more narrow, it felt like it ”was the way”. Thanks for the tip, will look into it!
@richardmichael1445
@richardmichael1445 Жыл бұрын
That's the way...hooray
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark 9 ай бұрын
This is the way
@weebryan
@weebryan Жыл бұрын
What software/app did you use at the end looks very good for planning thanks
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark Жыл бұрын
Hi! That would be ”Alltrails” 👌 Indeed a good tool to plan routes.
@andrewtaylor8899
@andrewtaylor8899 11 ай бұрын
A couple of points: (1) the hut that you mention at 8:42 (the Charles Inglis Clark Memorial Hut) is private (owned by the Scottish Mountaineering Club) and not available as a shelter. (2) the town is Fort William, not Fort Williams.
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for your clarifications!
@hamshanksproductions7161
@hamshanksproductions7161 10 ай бұрын
At last, a film showing what it's really like. Too many fair weather walkers on youtube 😊
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark 10 ай бұрын
Aye the weather turned on us!
@hamshanksproductions7161
@hamshanksproductions7161 10 ай бұрын
@@JonathanLundmark most of my walking is in bad weather 😊
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark 10 ай бұрын
Ah, do you live in Scotland? :)
@hamshanksproductions7161
@hamshanksproductions7161 10 ай бұрын
@@JonathanLundmark I certainly do 😊
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark 10 ай бұрын
I hiked (and uploaded a video) the West Highland Way too, it was a really nice hike -any other hike in Scotland that’s on par and that you recommend?
@eagoba2456
@eagoba2456 Жыл бұрын
If you had successfully made the ascent, will you had return back the via fhe tourist path, is that possible?
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark Жыл бұрын
Yes exactly, that was the plan and is possible.
@p4ttl344
@p4ttl344 4 ай бұрын
What date did you do the climb? me and a few friends are planning to go there at the end of April
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark 4 ай бұрын
We went there during early may! Best of luck on your hike :)
@fivesfish
@fivesfish 6 ай бұрын
That wasn't a lake on the way up Ben Nevis, it was a cwm or a cirque.
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark 6 ай бұрын
👍
@chelsyholland790
@chelsyholland790 Жыл бұрын
Getting to the top is optional, getting down is mandatory
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark Жыл бұрын
Well said!
@keithscott1480
@keithscott1480 Жыл бұрын
Good effort but the hut your on about is only open to members and guests of the Scottish mountaineering club so if your doing that route again the hut would be no good to you in an emergency it would probably be locked
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark Жыл бұрын
Aha thanks for pointing that out!
@danthompson8212
@danthompson8212 Жыл бұрын
Poor route advice, the North Face carpark at Torlundy is a far more sensible place to start this route, no messing around crossing loads of water falls, and the accent is far less dangerous than going straight up the steep loose face.
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark Жыл бұрын
The waterfalls were beautiful though! But yes when ascending the steep face you need to tread carefully to ensure no rocks break lose
@danielsaunders4867
@danielsaunders4867 9 ай бұрын
Done it in worse conditions that that
@JonathanLundmark
@JonathanLundmark 9 ай бұрын
Sounds like it came with risks, but good that you made it back down!
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