do you have a link to where i can know more about those cards? salamat pre

@@cliburnhernandez8444 Lazada

@@cliburnhernandez8444 oh wait you mean learning more about it not buying oops xD

@@cliburnhernandez8444 i think Toasty Bros made a video about their "RX 580" card last month

​@@Hydelix what resolution though with upscaling or not?

Sure, they'll refund your money. Assuming you pay for shipping or take it into a Whole Foods or Kohl's. Unless this is the week they have you looking for a UPS store. And better save your shipping receipt, because they'll absolutely claim they haven't received your return. When it comes to prioritizing customer satisfaction, Andy's Discount Emporium and Web Services is unrecognizable from the Bubba Bezos's Bookstore and More that got us all hooked in the aughts.

Literally the only thing going for them.

I guess it's the least a platform should do. Unlike JD which had really good service until crypto card shortage. Their customer service literally took repaired cards and sold them at insane prices and refunded at MSRP telling the buyer it was unrepairable. Then after the mining craziness, soms suspect they just sold mining cards as new. But Aliexpress is where most flashed bios cards go. So every purchase for a graphics card is a really exciting and scary deal.

Depends who you buy from. Amazon is a marketplace, you're better off buying a product 'shipped/sold by amazon' vs one 'shipped by amazon, sold by kewlbucks4yoo'. Buy from shady 3rd party and roll the dice. Even then if a fake makes it into the product stream ahead of amazon, they won't know. They don't build them or pack them into boxes and yea, they do stand behind it. Those issues can happen to best buy, micro center, newegg or anyone else.

@@mattk6827 You are aware that amazon does stock sharing with third part seller right? Pretty sure there was a techquicky or LTT video on this a couple years back. Basically, if it is 'shipped' by amazon then it doesn't matter who the seller is, amazon or otherwise. It all goes on the same shelf. So the likelihood of microcentre or similar getting a fake is drastically smaller than amazon. Basically, don't buy anything of value off amazon is the lesson here.

these have to be THE least successful bots

@@ItsReallyGeo Must have a lotta rice tho

@@CanadianB.O.W xD

You're just on the naughty list

But can it run Crysis?

​@srijitia 🥺 😮‍💨

he reminds me of the Vsauce guy

He’s like the merchandise in RE4

He needs no explanation

They salvaged him from the old NCIX inventory (flashed his bios too... or flashed him... I forget which)

Exactly, that'd be one of the first things to look at when unboxing.

Are you the guy whose text was in português on the video?

@@vinimagus yes :)

Already giving a HUGE red flag from just the info/description alone

That's easy. When the seller is selling those fake cards with real price, now that's very hard to detect.

@@wakaneut I just thought it was funny when they told people to please don’t compare with the real card. Makes it very easy to know it wasn’t the real deal. Especially since they listed the number of CUDA cores and it was much lower than it should be.

RTX 4090 $2000 Description: actually a GT 1030 pls buy i wanna buy a 4090

fake 980ti but with extra steps

I guess the main question is why even bother? What would they really test; if it performs as good as an actual card that it's pretending to be?(Answer is most likely no) I can't seem to figure out a decent video idea for it to exist, they already showed us flashed BIOs cards, the same information and lesson can be applied to these franken-cards. Not trying to shoot down your idea, just trying to understand the purpose/lesson gained from making the video you requested. If it's to bring awareness, this specific techquickie video already achieves that purpose with its eye-catching title.

@@nickfosley2882 Techquickie doesn't get nearly as much exposure or view time as the main channel though. Would also be interesting just to laugh for a bit at a screwed up solder job.

@@nickfosley2882 These are the same people that watercooled a calculator lmao.

@@Mufflin Yeah, but that was at least unique. The point I made in my previous post was that a video of them buying franken-cards is essentially a rebranded flashed BIOS cards, but hey, I'm an LTT fan, so I would watch that video with a grin on my face.

@@nickfosley2882 Then you yourself are evidence that it would be worthwhile content lmao.

Did you see the GN video where they got to be there for the final days of EVGA? When Riley mentioned making a Frankencard by combining components of several dead cards, I thought of the fact that **EVGA actually had a team to do that** and they did it extremely well.

right in the feels :(

Thats sad news. I have a EVGA 760 GTX, wich is still in use and going strong, with probably over 10.000hrs on it. They made solid products.

Awesome advice, thank you.

ask nvidia

AMD is dropping the price of the 7900xt to $799. To bad it needs to be $699 for people to buy it.

How did you figure out it's a GT 210?

​@@cuhleef performance must have been atrocious 😂

@@cuhleef Tiny little sticker on the back of the card

@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat I didn't even install it, I already had an RX 460 and knew that it would outperform the 210 by a landslide

@@RotcodFox Thanks for the reply

testing longevity of those things would take years there’s no point it’s easy to google search

I mean, hard platters have a lower price per storage unit (50$ for a 1TB hard disk versus 100$ for a 750GB solid state drive) but have a slower read/write speed.

@@GrayDaDolf The issue is shelf life. How long will a HDD retain the information compared to a SSD? It's not only read/write cycles that limit Flash memory. The memory cells will discharge over time if the drive isn't used. Same with a HDD. The platters store information by magnetizing incredibly small spots on a spinning disk. Each 1 or 0 is stored as a individual spot. Over time the magnetic charge will get weaker and weaker until the drive head can't read the information reliably. So the question is how long it takes for the information to become unreadable. Early Flash memory was using so called SLC tech, or Single Level Cell. Each sell stored a 1 or a 0, and that was it. This meant that there were pretty large difference in the charge for these so in theory they were a lot more long lived than more modern designs such as DLC, TLC or QLC. Now I cant find numbers for what these values are exactly, but it's not a lot of room to play with. And yet in a DLC flash memory each cell can take one of four (4) values. If we assume that if both values stored zero the "level" is 0, and if both values stored is One then the "level" is 1, you will have two more "levels" that need to be retained and discernable by the controller. So 0-0 = 0, 1-0 = 0.25, 0-1 = 0.75 and 1-1 = 1. Now any drift in the stored value will make it harder for the controller to read that value back. But DLC is old tech. Even TLC is old today, and the latest of the decently cheap SSD's are using QLC memory, storing four bits in each byte. Now things get hectic as to do this the storage controller will have to accurately store and read sixteen (16) levels in that cell. If they manage to make PLC memory it will have to differentiate between 32 levels per cell! So any drift in the stored levels is bad news for the stored data. A flash drive that is in use can have the controller reading and refreshing memory cells to stave off memory loss. But writing to a cell also degrades it so a part of the flash memory in the drive is set aside as spare area to be swapped in whenever the memory controller detects that a cell is no longer able to retain the information reliably. All in all we are putting a lot of faith into these technologies. HDD's we pretty well know how long they last, but flash memory is not as simple or well understood. Back in the 80's and early 90's I remember running special programs on hard drives that basically read all info and rewrote it back, checking that what was written could be read. They also could do multiple attempts att reading sectors that were failing, and some times were able to recover the data and write it back. If the sector failed on write it was mapped out and a spare was reallocated. Yes HDD's also have extra storage areas that get swapped in when sectors starts showing signs of failing. However that type of program was largely made obsolete with the introduction of IDE drives. The older MFM and RLL drives allowed access to the raw data read by the drives read head, while IDE and SCSI drives hid that part of the operation from the rest of the system.

its a trap

It is reaol!

​@srijita_6_9 real

​@srijita_6_9 real

​@srijita_6_9you should use water. I read that it fixes every pc problem. 😆😆😆

what a bargain, can i have one?

@@antkoos sure mate

if the product fail the minner has a remplace option but others not. The cuestion is that so faithful is to its sayings/guarantee. I know a mining friend who has even had to replace a 3080 and did. I also know computer stores that dedicated themselves to mining and now sell them "outlet" with a guarantee (but I don't know how they respond to it, in this case they offer it for legal reasons). But being realistic, unless you know him or he has a physical site or he gives you an bill, you have to be careful, very careful... another good option is to pay with PayPal

They did a video about how buying used mining GPUs is fine

So people can't have 2 GPU's they're selling?

whats the problem with buying mining gpus? usually their taken better care of, as thats their card for income,. and dont run at full power anyways. also running at constant temperature is better usually than constantly fluctuating temps

Didn't LTT just prove mining cards where actually a good buy?

​@srijita_6_9stop spamming this bs

Micro Center all day long BAY BEE

depends on the store. here in my country, it's very rare to see a gpu being sold in a reputable store, and non-reputable ones sell same shitty graphics cards, to the point i don't even bother buying local

@@MyNameIsBucket Man, I *wish* we had one of those around here, but alas....

I'd check Cinebench, Afterburner, ect to make sure the rest of the system if fine, that pairing should be fine. If you have another system you can swap parts like the RAM or GPU with all the better. PCB dimensions and layout (vs a reference image) could give you an idea if you do have a fake card.

@@raszelast so for whatever reason I couldn’t get cimebench to work (faulty download or something) but I messed around with the Nvidia control panel. I found out that one of the settings were not set to my 3070 and just at auto, and set frame rate to unlimited with v-sync off. I’m pushing around 100fps on sons of the forest at max graphics at 2560-1440. Much of what I was expecting out of this card.

@@Sturmgechu Happy to see it worked out for you. If anything that's much higher than the Jansen Benchmarks video results, so just check DLSS isn't enabled and inflating things. Congrats!

A dead card has to be taken apart to use the useful parts or recycle/e-waste the dead parts. Sometimes workers will steal these from the factory. (Though it could often be that the card was going to be thrown away so the person kept it.)

@@NicholasFlamy Interesting. Thanks for the info!

This is a big for us specially with a dollar going near the R$6, so any dollar matters and a lot.

If the seller is up-front that they're doing that (marketing it as refurbished or factory renewed) that's fine. But if I sell you a GTX 3090 that I swear was only used by a little old lady to run streams of her cats and you get something that smells of fresh solder, I've scammed you, bro.

I’m sorry to say that price is probably too good to be true. I hope you can get your $3.5k back once the inevitable happens, or, at least you get lucky and they’re usable. Do you plan on flipping them or something?

@@patricknelson I understand it is a bit of a gamble but hope that ebay will have my back if there are issues. I was planning on flipping them for $1,000 each after I check them with gpuz and benchmark them.

​@@richguy011 Wanna post the listing?

​@richguy011 did you return them?

@UnderOneLight Yeah, it was an ebay scam. The scam works by miscategorizing the item and having the purchase be above a certain amount. It makes it harder to submit a "did not recieve item" form. Figured it might be too good to be true but trusted in Ebay's policy to have my back.

It's a huge problem, considering these components frequently end up in important equipment. Used to be even worse a few years ago, tho.

They're painting the wrong labels on them. IE: making them look higher capacity and such for those who don't know better.

😂

Heh, dealing with a ghost right now. The worst part about it is Not jumping on something else you see in the period that eBay makes you wait before refunding.

I am curious about what kind of GPU you got that lets you do that and still vaguely game okay

@@InfernosReaper r9 270x + AMD fx 6300 in my main computer, my laptop is a compaq 615 upgraded with 4gb ram and an ssd, laptop is not used for anything but old games and programming so I don't mind a dual core.

Same here. Afox mb for 6600, but M chip on it. Nearly half the price of 6600, but ~98% or equal performance. With the claim of "98% new, refurbished"

@@ashfaw There's now desktop Motherboards with laptop GPUs on it, quite cool. If only it came in an ITX form factor for SSF, would have been so cool

@@jierenzheng7670 yup, saw today from CraftComputing and JeffDoesTechStuff videos about it. Quite an interesting mobo, but price skyrocketed from ~160 to ~250-300 $

@@ashfaw Yea, wish it was in a smaller form factor so I can fit it inside a i100 case for a portable PC.

Wait, you can actually buy decent GPUs on there? Interesting 🤔

@@ireallyreallyreallylikethisimg you can, just be super careful, look at reviews, price, manufacturer, rating, how many complaints they have, etc

​@@ireallyreallyreallylikethisimgyou can but you have to research a lot