or TWICE

Ofcourse they've spoken to ONCE on bubble 👀

me who has spoken to onces: 👁👄👁 jk lol

Cough Kim Garam cough

create stan accounts too without even listening to at least one song or snippet.

@loona x sunye thats not true at all you must not own a twitter account

@loona x sunye No way you said that

@loona x sunye well....you haven't seen the real Twitter stan side if you think like that🤡

@loona x sunye nah, twitter stans are much worse than youtube stans.

@loona & the stay c's coming from an orbit

They werent even being toxic

@@xiayu6098 Going after a group for simply having a similar name? Pretty toxic to me

@@Free_Palestine_75 yup

@@Free_Palestine_75 nah there’s gotta be some type of copyright involved how many groups with similar names do u actually see? It totally makes sense too not want a group too have the same name maybe it was just the video but everyone looked like they’re were being chill ab it just asking them too change the name

@@xiayu6098 They'd have GFriend copyrighted not Girlfriend because that's not their name. Mamamoo and Sonamoo are the first examples of groups with similar names that popped into my head, there's quite a few

Exactly, we really shouldn't normalise these things.

truuue Twitter is just toxic in general, sadly

its so awkward when youre a multi stan and you see ur 2 fav groups' communities having a fanwar ✋😭

As someone who has only been on stan twitter for about a month, I think it's extremely weird how any interaction between artists is seen as negative. It's even weirder when people will bring up another group when it has nothing to do with what the topic of discussion was, or even use someone else's success to bring down other artists :/ I'm someone who wants to show support to as many groups as possible and I hate to see people fighting for no reason

why yall still on there?

That was iconic tbh lmaooo

especially male group fangirls💀

i felt that on every level. it's really gross on there sometimes. i will never understand it.

Yes I agree

it's best to avoid Twitter in order to protect your mental health 🥺

Agreed

Tons of teaching, but there's barely learning.

Anti Anonimity laws and cyber bullying laws should be implemented in Korea

Same

Same Here

Yeah!! I'm tired of fanwars !!

I agree with you. An idol has really good vocals, rap, or dance skills and they suddenly start calling them "god". Like as if when they were born they popped out doing contemporary, modern, jazz dance. The idols literally have to train for it, its bizarre.

I think you can still find people that are just there to enjoy everything. The industry itself is toxic towards idols and started to get backlash for mistreatment just few years ago. I think this made a bigger tension in the community as a whole. As a group we're discovering what's right, wrong and what is just morally grey. I got into kpop about the same time that you did. There are just too many rookie groups debuting every year, you can't say it all sounds the same cause that's just untrue. What gets famous and continues on is another story. It's called "pop" for a reason. There's a formula and people like to know what to expect.

Yes back then it was so fun when all of your fans gathered outside your own house and not leaving until you came out, not giving a shit about your own priority when you are out in public , doing bizzare things like attempting to kidnap you just because they like you. Yeah things were really fun that time 😊

@@ChaosTsuki I agree, it's literally same in every generation in celebrity industry,tbh it more safe now as you are more protected than before except social media but you are prone to have more danger in social media. Every coin has two sides as we all do , back then things were less addressed and mental problems were ignored or else you would creep out how much bizzare things 1 and 2 nd Gen idols had gone through . Things like these wouldn't change unless all the people start thinking logically and considering how their actions would affect another person but many people ignore this by using evergreen excuse of they are celebrity ,they have to go through it. Tbh staying away from Twitter has saved from me from having dramas and toxic people.

@@lovelybharat5825 you mean like how the fans today are now jumping new generation idols in airports and acting like those idols are their property (aka: that dude Felix from Stray Kids getting mauled by female fans). Ahhh, yes. Things have definitely gotten better and are sooooo much safer today.🙃

@@unfiltered8407 it is safer now, just not safe enough yet. The Kpop industry is very toxic and full of issues. 1st&2nd gen of kpop had big physical fights, openly liking more than one kpop group was rare and sort of discouraged bc ppl would accuse you of not being loyal and attack you for it. But at the same time, those who liked kpop in countries where it wasnt common to, often seemed to band together in the fact that they both like this thing that no one else around them gets, which is a feeling that is pretty much completely lost now. Besides that you got apps like twitter now, that are full of toxic ppl abusing the anonymity the internet gives them and seasangs that are still and might forever be a thing

Bro fr tho, at first I believed it😭but then I saw they had like trailers for the group or something and they used a scene from everglows first mv and a black widow scene from iron man 2 so I was like, 🤨 yeah there’s no way this is real

@@hellod2949 and they uploaded videos like choosing trainees like for real what they are even thinking they uploaded trailers of their so called debut song 💔

@garimaa we got tricked 😔

@@lovesick3317 yeah right

Lol I never actually believed that... I also saw a YG girl group too. That must be fake too because the quality of the video is very bad... I also saw a JYP girl group (Nmixx)... But the videos were real. But I think it's fake. So weird that they have the dance practice video

i am a fan of a trainee idol group from japan lol. it is possible if they've been active for a few years, even just as back dancers.

@@Jess-737 I knew about BoA early on too but I never really listened to the point where I could call myself a fan. Like I liked her too, but I didn't think it would have been appropriate for me to call myself a fan since I didn't actively seek her music out. I really got into kpop after Shinee debuted. I remember there were some toxic fans, mainly the ones who would send nasty horrible gifts [like letters written in period blood, or tainted drinks that could be deadly] but it was super rare and they often got dealt with quickly. Nowadays it's like 10 times worse and whole ass groups of people being toxic. I also really hate the energy in a lot of kpop communities too where fans become toxic towards others who aren't really fans of the same groups. I also hate that people don't really let artists be themselves and have a life. Like you constantly see/hear people calling idols fat or too skinny, and if they're seen with anyone of the opposite gender nasty rumours spread, or just stupid bs like that. It's like they feel as if they own these idols and sometimes I just want to smack those "fans".

I tried to get into SNSD fandom in 2006, but quickly took my exit after I realized don't have time for all the fandom dramas lol. it only took me a few tweets hahaha

if something becomes popular, it also attracts bad energy. since kpop became even more popular, it attracts toxic people that are not needed. also, with the growing popularity of kpop, some companies do not care anymore if they make their idols sing luckluster songs as long as the idols are popular, the bad songs will be loved regardless.

Big Bang vs SuJu, SNSD vs 2NE1 😂

tbh that also happend with GFRIEND and BOYFRIEND were people were sure they were from the same company or at least connected in any way

these fans made themselves look bad

@@kimanid.929 for me the ones shown in the video werent bad tho None were attacking the "girls" and were just trying to defend gfriend's name The people who are answering back to buddies were the ones that made buddies look bad... Wth is "and i thought buddies were nice" Like they would like it if that happens to their fave group (this phrase is so overused and idc cause it has a point)

But the comment wasn’t even bad

Buddies were/are known as one of the most peaceful fandoms tho???

@@bananasareblue5619 u sure? Bc everywhere I see about Gfriends fandom is that they are one of the toxic fandoms… but idk that’s just what I’ve been seeing everywhere.. so maybe they are a peaceful fandom just maybe I’ve been on the other side of social media 🤷‍♀️

@@Enhypenmeencanta oh well i guess yes(?) Some did start saying that after GFRIEND'S disbandment, sadly But definitely before that, buddies were known as one of the most peaceful fandoms

@@Enhypenmeencanta oh and if youre curious why A lot of buddies were just lashing out on anywhere, especially on source music's stuff and GFRIEND'S channel(this one was more sad tho) after their sudden disbandment It got worse after source music announced that they'll be debuting a new girl group when they haven't even released a statement about GFRIEND'S disbandment and the fact that the new gg was also 6 members and that they debuted on GFRIEND'S month of disbandment There are more reasons for others but i didnt do any of those, i just kept my anger, sadness, annoyance, etc. with myself and just kept promoting the members in their own paths

But if you look back, there was a kpop group call Grlfrnd a long time ago, but were erased from history because of the scamming its company did

Actually you can't trademark really generic words ...and GFRIEND is a really generic name ( especially in korean the name legitimately means girlfriend so you can't trademark that ). While you can trademark logos ( bts did it for their one, SVT i think did it for their one too) , you have to trademark it in its entirety...if a part of your logo is a really generic thing like a heart that means the heart itself wont't be protected under copyright law and other groups can use it legally. That's why for example Kim Kardashian could not copyright the word KIMONO for her brand and Kylie Jenner could not copyright KYLIE . Also the thing with "It's the same name then it's copyright issue " is in most cases straight up bs caused by people not understanding the law. First of all, the trademark is protected in the country/ countries you fill the trademark for (there are exceptions for huge brands such as cocoa cola). So two local brands with the same name can be protected under trademark laws in their own countries. There's also the thing of the trademark being filled for specific industries. In your example Red Velvet can be used by both the group and the other company without issue because they belong to different industries (also Red Velvet as a name is not falling under a possible copyright claim since it is a very generic one).

@@blueiepureesteluca yes you can trademark it if and only if the word is associated with the brand. however you can't if you are trying to have a copyrights over it.

This channel is so poorly written and researched lmao. When she said “last time I checked, it’s not a crime” I said, “it is if the name is copyrighted.”

Idk mabye it’s people that where part of the troll for this reason

no but like imagine making fan accs and stanning a group without knowing that the group doesn't exists and all the members are fake-