FAKE Professional Sports Bettor Gets EXPOSED | Ep 62

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Күн бұрын

On this episode, Rob and Johnny react to Simon Hunter of The Action Network appearing on the Ross Tucker Football Podcast and discuss every piece of false or misleading information given out...
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SHOW INDEX:
00:00 Intro
02:23 Ross Tucker and Simon Hunter Podcast Reaction

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@bigredtlc1828
@bigredtlc1828 6 ай бұрын
Haters gonna hate. Simon, on The Favorites podcast, is spot on and gives out great advice. Not sure why Canadians have to shit on him. He and Chad have a great YT podcast running weekly. Highly recommend. SImon was a millionaire at a young age in betting and has made money consistently.
@ryanc9888
@ryanc9888 3 ай бұрын
lol
@nolimit_rich5185
@nolimit_rich5185 6 ай бұрын
" Exposed " is too strong of a word. He does not try to scam anyone. His picks of late haven't been the best but thats about it. If you guys are going to have an hour video about someone being exposed due to how they carry themselves and what they tey to get out of their own personal agenda, there are plenty of other people. Simon isn't the one to go after. It seems there was too much nitpicking about words he used when there are truly scammers on KZfaq lying to the world to try and take your money.
@CirclesOffHQ
@CirclesOffHQ 6 ай бұрын
Misrepresenting himself as a winning pro bettor is the equivalent of running a scam in our opinion. People will tail his action under false pretenses.
@nolimit_rich5185
@nolimit_rich5185 6 ай бұрын
@@CirclesOffHQ Fair enough
@bartonhewett5705
@bartonhewett5705 Жыл бұрын
Where can we get Betstamp hats?
@allthingselevated4796
@allthingselevated4796 6 ай бұрын
Simon and Chad are consistent and give picks out every week for free. They don’t ask to join expensive groups . Y’all some haters lol
@lukebickerstaff7383
@lukebickerstaff7383 Жыл бұрын
The October 2021 bit had me on the damn floor
@ricojohnson5868
@ricojohnson5868 Ай бұрын
This has cost me so much money it's ridiculous. The amount of times he has scared me off my picks to follow his is shameful for both of us.
@ecolt0
@ecolt0 Жыл бұрын
Any syndicates for sale?
@MrJamberee
@MrJamberee Жыл бұрын
You are in luck. I have a top syndicate I can sell you.
@LABoyko
@LABoyko 5 ай бұрын
Simon never explained what one buys when they buy a syndicate. Makes no sense.
@kevindoran7099
@kevindoran7099 10 ай бұрын
I was a losing gambler and have won big money 3 straight nfl seasons thanks to Simon. Don't care if he lies, he's great at handicapping games and doesn't try to sell picks. Weird to try and bash that guy for clicks.
@chosensports
@chosensports 7 ай бұрын
Yeah right lmao
@kevindoran7099
@kevindoran7099 7 ай бұрын
@@chosensports it is right. Let me guess, you sell picks and are mad that someone better than you is giving picks away for free. Piss off.
@dallas1love
@dallas1love 7 ай бұрын
The guy is not lying. These Canadians are obviously fos and are either not understanding what Simon is saying or intentionally misrepresenting it.
@JvstinCharles
@JvstinCharles 7 ай бұрын
You guys are kinda reaching here. Maybe he doesn’t explain himself clearly all the way but at the end of the day we are trying ti win. Simon has given out tons of free nfl winners. That’s all that matters.
@CirclesOffHQ
@CirclesOffHQ 7 ай бұрын
He's also given out more free NFL losers and that's publicly documented on Action Network's website. So I guess that's all that matters?
@mikewilliams3509
@mikewilliams3509 6 ай бұрын
Do you guys give out picks?
@AmateurHourSports
@AmateurHourSports Жыл бұрын
High quality content again, gentlemen
@kabutoyakushi6618
@kabutoyakushi6618 9 ай бұрын
I agree. Very High Quality crying and being jealous.
@insight7013
@insight7013 7 ай бұрын
@@kabutoyakushi6618 Kabuto Yakushi is a major antagonist in the Naruto franchise LOSER!!!!
@Blaqmench
@Blaqmench 6 ай бұрын
I'm team Simon Hunter.....This video has 13k views a year ago and these 2 "Haters" only has 4k "Subscribers" in 2024 #That tells sensible people all you need to know about these 2 🤡's
@anthonyscerbo8274
@anthonyscerbo8274 6 ай бұрын
Dude. Simon tracks his bets on action network. It shows he’s down 20 units lifetime in NFL. Also, I don’t know how to put it besides, you should educate yourself on something first. Be honest with yourself… have you really paid for his picks and won? Or are you possibly upset you’ve been paying for losers, and could be wrong about something…
@tbewin1z143
@tbewin1z143 6 ай бұрын
@@anthonyscerbo8274he gives his picks out for free, whoops
@allthingselevated4796
@allthingselevated4796 6 ай бұрын
They don’t track all bets on that app. Just some so it shoes they use the app. Simon hits I’ve been following them all year and they are about 73% this season
@Blaqmench
@Blaqmench 6 ай бұрын
@@allthingselevated4796 Simon is money 💰 in my humble opinion.....Those 2 guys certified Hater's!
@funisnumberone1
@funisnumberone1 5 ай бұрын
@@anthonyscerbo8274 Is that twenty units down on ALL picks, or just on his best picks for each week?
@BillBondsHasAPosse
@BillBondsHasAPosse Жыл бұрын
Rob you couldn’t be more right, I don’t know why the other guy (co-host) is so slow on the uptake.
@kabutoyakushi6618
@kabutoyakushi6618 9 ай бұрын
They couldn't be more wrong.
@insight7013
@insight7013 7 ай бұрын
@@kabutoyakushi6618 move along jerk-off.....quit sticking up for your boyfriend LOL!!!!!!
@ecolt0
@ecolt0 3 ай бұрын
@@kabutoyakushi6618 lol
@JanoyCresva
@JanoyCresva 6 ай бұрын
I havent lost a client in 5 years. WHats the point of the waiting list if you cant get in? If hes telling you that you'll never get in because his picks are so good nobody wants to give up their spot. What a crock of shit. He said you can pick and choose and he gets everyone reupping. So shit, what if everyone only chooses football? Now are the cricket and basketball guys not getting any clients because its restricted to 100? This is super fishy and seems like "fake it till you make it" type mumbo jumbo
@wilkman7218
@wilkman7218 Жыл бұрын
Show me POTATO SALAD!!!
@clayevins6795
@clayevins6795 6 ай бұрын
Why his show called circles off ? Just curious.
@CirclesOffHQ
@CirclesOffHQ 6 ай бұрын
Circles Off is a reference to when sportsbooks increase to higher limits. Typically speaking, when sportsbooks put out lines, they are "circled", meaning that limits are rather small. They take bets at smaller limits before increasing to larger limits (circles off) when they feel comfortable that their line is more accurate.
@gobsmacked123
@gobsmacked123 Жыл бұрын
We need more pods like this. You could definitely do something with a more positive spin instead but this was one of your more powerful videos and I appreciated getting your honest reactions to this because I had a hard time processing it myself
@xpertbandit8009
@xpertbandit8009 5 ай бұрын
I think you keep the client list low because if you deal with rich people you could possibly move the lines. Imagine 1,000,000 people betting Lions +3 within an hour. Wouldn't the line move wildly?
@WONANDONESPORTS
@WONANDONESPORTS Жыл бұрын
Explain why its non sense ?
@Hy-xs6rp
@Hy-xs6rp 8 ай бұрын
These guys are just haters. I follow Simon as well. He’s a smart guy
@insight7013
@insight7013 7 ай бұрын
he's a clown
@bigboy22691
@bigboy22691 2 ай бұрын
Been following simon and chad for years, havent had a bad season since. They inform you what the sharp players are doing and what they are betting. Not to mention its all free. Im new to your guys page. Asking honestly, if you guys are better at football, do you post picks i can tail?
@CirclesOffHQ
@CirclesOffHQ 2 ай бұрын
We have a football channel as part of our network where Rob appears regularly: www.youtube.com/@FwdProgressHQ
@DK_DFS
@DK_DFS 2 ай бұрын
This is the best thing I’ve watched all year! Thank you guys 🤝
@josephshields9422
@josephshields9422 6 ай бұрын
I’m guessing these guys tailed one of Simon’s picks, bet their kid’s college fund, it didn’t pan out, now they’re out for some revenge.
@CirclesOffHQ
@CirclesOffHQ 6 ай бұрын
Tough to bet the kids' college funds when neither of the hosts has kids
@GQElvie
@GQElvie 10 ай бұрын
sorry guys, I wanted to like what you had to say, and I have no skin in this game, and Simon probably was BS ing a little, but it seemed like you were LOOKING for things to pick apart---- and then you lost all cred at about the 33 minute minure mark--- if you don't know there is a contrarion theory out there (that any bookie who is telling the truth will tell, it works in the long run, i.e the public will be wrong 55% or so of the time--at least when it is heavily tilted one way), you are true novices, and have no business doing this podcast.
@17Cali32
@17Cali32 8 ай бұрын
this aint the right channel for you if you truly believe this
@tbewin1z143
@tbewin1z143 7 ай бұрын
@@17Cali32the guy literally said that if the public is wrong 55% of the time, the. fading them would give you a 55% win rate, which is simple math and correct; the problem is the public has been correct more often than not this year, so fading them this year is not a wise move
@17Cali32
@17Cali32 7 ай бұрын
How many coins do you know that you can flip over and over and over the result in one side coming up 55%. The public hits at 50% and they lose because of the vig.
@tbewin1z143
@tbewin1z143 7 ай бұрын
@@17Cali32 The public have been winning close to 70% this year! That is nowhere close to 50. The fact that you think that the books even get close to their desired 50/50 split speaks volumes. Plenty of sites out there that track various books like VSIN, Scores and Odds, Sports Betting Dime will tell you that (Action also tracks the bets of it's users). The public doesn't play numbers as much as it plays the side regardless if its -5.5 or -6.5. Guys like Simon get this and guys like you and these dorks in the video don't apparently.
@CirclesOffHQ
@CirclesOffHQ 7 ай бұрын
He was very clearly not referring to 50/50 split in volume and referring to 50/50 in terms of picking ATS winners over a long period of time.
@sethwilliams720
@sethwilliams720 4 ай бұрын
I’ve seen a couple of this dudes videos and personally they weren’t for me. There isn’t really a benchmark to determine if someone is a “professional” gambler. Anyone who has been betting for a few years and won money can claim they are a pro…so I tend to think those self proclaimed people are full of it. There are so many fake betting “gurus” out there who are scamming people out of money. I’d like to see someone expose them instead of some guy with gives out free picks and just has a big ego.
@arthurfonzarelli9828
@arthurfonzarelli9828 Жыл бұрын
Anybody that says there's trap games just means they don't understand what the edges in that particular game. That is the dumbest comment I've ever heard and instantly lose his credibility with all bettors when I hear it
@FlatEarthOracle
@FlatEarthOracle 10 ай бұрын
I disagree with this sort of, there are absolutely "trap lines" which inherently means its a "Trap game" by definition. Plus there are all sorts of grey areas when it comes to look ahead spots and revenge angles that kind of play into the "trap game" narrative. However in situatios like this past weekend where everyone was betting Nebraska over Colorado just because the "public" was all over Colorado and it was a "trap game" are literally fktards.
@jonjone661
@jonjone661 8 ай бұрын
You can some there’s a trap game then go over the trends and deeper stats after. Not required to give everyone all your info
@randyharris3175
@randyharris3175 6 ай бұрын
So this guy knew on Monday that Miami minus 13 was the wrong side.😂
@bab3293
@bab3293 6 ай бұрын
62 is Jason kelce
@joelnorris6895
@joelnorris6895 Жыл бұрын
this is so funny yet infuriating
@Anthony-jq1ny
@Anthony-jq1ny 6 ай бұрын
Just because you don’t understand what buying syndicates is?
@walkingspottedbear
@walkingspottedbear 7 ай бұрын
Wow if you guys can make money being completely charlatan haters I'm gonna start making videos. I'm 3/4 of the way through and I've heard these guys say at least 3 things that simply aren't true. One example is the idea that working harder or putting more hours into capping will not help you make more profitable bets. What a ridiculous thing to say. I can't count how many times I've been off a bad day or a bad week and just work harder at it and make lots of money and at the end of the day I say to myself 'Man that was hard work'. Professional betters have long ago busted the myth of closing line value. It doesn't matter one way or the other. What's important always is having the right side. I'm going to give you guys one more video to impress me here
@CirclesOffHQ
@CirclesOffHQ 7 ай бұрын
It doesn’t seem as though you understand what’s going on. Suggesting that pro bettors have proven CLV to be worthless is a fairly telling example of that. Good luck with your future endeavours.
@ecolt0
@ecolt0 3 ай бұрын
lol
@walkingspottedbear
@walkingspottedbear 3 ай бұрын
My point is if I bet UNLV -3 at open, they get all the way up to 5 by close, then New Mexico beats them outright as a 5 point underdog... The main thing is picking the right side to begin with. If the pistons open at +12, it gets to +15, and they get beaten by 20 but I've got a ticket for them at +15 that showed positive ev according to a model, the case is likely that my model doesn't know what the books' does. 'I WANT WINNERS!' -Mike singletary
@ecolt0
@ecolt0 3 ай бұрын
@@walkingspottedbear lol
@kenwong518
@kenwong518 8 ай бұрын
Great clip. I been following him n Chad millmen past 2 year and I won . Sounds like he’s a fraud but he’s been decent on nfl.
@CirclesOffHQ
@CirclesOffHQ 7 ай бұрын
Hey Ken, nobody is disputing whether Chad or Simon wins. We actually applaud both for at least keeping a public record of their picks. We think the video speaks for itself in that there is someone passing themself off as an industry expert when they are not.
@kenwong518
@kenwong518 7 ай бұрын
Agree with that.
@jimredmile9915
@jimredmile9915 7 ай бұрын
Why don’t you interview him?
@CirclesOffHQ
@CirclesOffHQ 7 ай бұрын
We did request to interview him at the time but he denied the request.
@My_oh_face
@My_oh_face 4 ай бұрын
This is the guy everyone was talking about!? 😂 I’ve been jumping around episodes so I listened to a future episode before this one. This guy is on Action network all the time, I thought @circlesoff was talking about some KZfaq bum. Very interesting. I don’t know what my take is on this, I’ll have to look at the guys w/l record. What I do I have an opinion on is, Action Network as a whole is EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTING when it comes to accurate game picks/info. Have you been on the app? I don’t have hard factual numbers but it seems like a majority of their picks are incorrect.
@CirclesOffHQ
@CirclesOffHQ 3 ай бұрын
Whether or not the picks are correct or incorrect isn't really what Rob & Johnny harp on. They are big believers in being authentic and believe that there is an owness on content creators to not misrepresent themselves.
@TheBigshot789
@TheBigshot789 8 ай бұрын
Action Network has only seemed legit to me. They nail a majority of their picks. Idk the specifics of how much they actually bet but their picks are legit, and they have the receipts for years to show it.
@CirclesOffHQ
@CirclesOffHQ 7 ай бұрын
One thing we appreciate about TAN is that their hosts track picks within their app. Transparency is important. That's why it's also puzzling that Simon is regularly defended as a winning bettor when he has over 1000 picks tracked and is down several units on NFL wagering. As you say, the receipts are there, and they don't paint a good picture.
@cato8767
@cato8767 6 ай бұрын
I bet the 73 year old is a mob guy who’s tied in and doesn’t want it to get to big.
@Anthony-jq1ny
@Anthony-jq1ny 6 ай бұрын
Syndicate is phrase used in Vegas! For people who can’t bet over a certain amount of Mooney in the books anymore! They bet line moves fading the public! So they are actually betting with the books! They limit you! So runners put the bets in for them!
@anthonyscerbo8274
@anthonyscerbo8274 6 ай бұрын
Dude. Fading the public isn’t real. You’re simply betting a price. Do you actually know for a fact that when 90% of people are on one side of a game it loses? Or are you just assuming “fade the public” is real off nothing. Just making things up randomly?
@Anthony-jq1ny
@Anthony-jq1ny 6 ай бұрын
@@anthonyscerbo8274 ok so your telling me those big Casinos with all the brass. They are letting $95 % On every game! Just because public had 1 good year! That’s what means!!
@tbewin1z143
@tbewin1z143 6 ай бұрын
@@anthonyscerbo8274so if the money is all on one side of a game, you don't think any outside forces will influence the game? No referees ever on the take or having money on the game, no corruption in sports where there is corruption everywhere else?
@ecolt0
@ecolt0 3 ай бұрын
fading the public is bullshit
@scubaseball12
@scubaseball12 Жыл бұрын
Lmao. Do you know What video has the 5k in duffle bags ?
@jere9100
@jere9100 11 ай бұрын
Based on what I just watched this will go over you guys heads. But Simon is on another level from where you are. If you would have done any research on his picks you would discover he is a world class nfl bettor, having finished very high in professional betting tournaments over the years. Just because you couldn’t understand his hurried statements doesn’t mean he’s a fraud, rather it makes you look ignorant. All the statements that were baffling your heads are easily explainable. But of course you weren’t looking for truth, you simply needed someone to belittle to boost your own low self esteem.
@CirclesOffHQ
@CirclesOffHQ 11 ай бұрын
Based on what you just commented, it appears this episode and 99% of sharp betting concepts may go over your head. Best of luck on your journey.
@ChiefsWin316
@ChiefsWin316 8 ай бұрын
​@CirclesOffHQ lol give use your weekly picks. You should fade simon every week since you know so much. Dudes made alot of us money.
@CirclesOffHQ
@CirclesOffHQ 8 ай бұрын
Simon's picks are publicly posted/tracked and he's a losing bettor
@ChiefsWin316
@ChiefsWin316 8 ай бұрын
@CirclesOffHQ he certainly does not track all of his bets. Checkout the favorites in the action network, they are like 65% win rate.
@odizzle9550
@odizzle9550 6 ай бұрын
@@CirclesOffHQ post and track your bets before you shit on someone who does.
@tsc9198
@tsc9198 9 ай бұрын
There’s thousands of people desperately trying to sell picks while this guy has his all available for free, so this was disappointing to see a desperate attack on an unworthy victim. The CLV comment was a good point to make until you spoke on him adding to small wagers while the line moves- he makes small picks then watches the line to decide the final pick or bet out of it like many people do. There’s just too many negative assumptions without knowledge of what he’s really doing.
@anthonyscerbo8274
@anthonyscerbo8274 6 ай бұрын
One thing Simon does that makes him special is he tracks every single bet on action network. If you goto action, you can see he’s actually a losing nfl gambler. He literally tracks it. Jesus you guys are hilarious. Figure out when to stop dying on a hill over something your wrong about. Simon is not a professional, or even a casual gambler who’s profitable.
@funisnumberone1
@funisnumberone1 5 ай бұрын
NO gambler bets every game, every week. You've gotta go by his four or five (or one) best bets of the week. Those are the ones to bet, not every freaking game.
@Vegagarcia443
@Vegagarcia443 5 ай бұрын
Haters gunna hate smh Simon is the man
@bab3293
@bab3293 6 ай бұрын
This guys voice sounds like a teacher's nails on a chalkboard while smoking a carton of cigarettes 🚬 🚬🚬🚬 🚬 🚬💨💨💨💨💨💨
@larrysykes1075
@larrysykes1075 6 ай бұрын
Simons does his thing.. he is 60% just like the other pros... I just seems to be a miscommunication vs something malicious or with some intent to deceive.
@CirclesOffHQ
@CirclesOffHQ 6 ай бұрын
Pros needing to hit at 60% is not a real thing. The break-even point for NFL spreads at -110 vig is 52.4% but the percentage required to turn profit in the long run really depends on the bettor's average price. Generally speaking, most pro bettors will track their ROI instead of win percentage, as it is largely irrelevant without context.
@anthonyscerbo8274
@anthonyscerbo8274 6 ай бұрын
Simon tracks all his bets on action network. And all time he is down 20 units in NFL. he’s not a professional, he’s not even a profitable casual gambler. if you knew a lick about gambling you would understand the prestige that comes with a pinnacle sponsorship. You probably still give money to books like pointsbet and ESPNbet. Praying for y’all. This podcast could be life changing for some of you.
@paulleidig6095
@paulleidig6095 6 ай бұрын
Yep, and 60% is all it takes to make money with ATS -110, Plus ML and Total -110. The best money is made betting MLB underdogs; Plus ML.
@Anthony-jq1ny
@Anthony-jq1ny 6 ай бұрын
They are calling out a guy WHO US GIVING OUT PLAYS FOR FREE!!! if you tail anyone’s bets with out your own info you are going to lose!! But he is giving it FOR FREE! Go after the guys who are charging people and doing the same thing!
@anthonyscerbo8274
@anthonyscerbo8274 6 ай бұрын
Because he also tracks all his bets on action network. And all time he is down 20 units in NFL. he’s not a professional, he’s not even a profitable casual gambler.
@LeighKaminskiWoharAbuseskids
@LeighKaminskiWoharAbuseskids Жыл бұрын
You guys mentioned that you were trying to get Simon or even Chad Millman on the show to discuss this but I’m going to guess they both simply didn’t respond because they are straight up avoiding and blocking all comments regarding this on their social medias. BTW it shouldn’t have taken this long to expose “Simon Hunter”, if any of you had listened to even two or three episodes of “The Favorites” podcast you would’ve known within seconds of him speaking something was way off. Lastly I wish you guys addressed how completely fucking idiotic it is that “Simon” hides his name but literally told everyone that he worked on the Jersey Shore behind the scenes among many other intimate details about his life. What an absolute clown.
@MrPhilbautista
@MrPhilbautista 6 ай бұрын
This looks to me like a bunch of scrubs trying to tear down an established giver of free picks cos they can't sell theirs.
@anthonyscerbo8274
@anthonyscerbo8274 6 ай бұрын
Simon tracks all his bets on action network. And all time he is down 20 units in NFL. he’s not a professional, he’s not even a profitable casual gambler. if you knew a lick about gambling you would understand the prestige that comes with a pinnacle sponsorship. You probably still give money to books like pointsbet and ESPNbet. Praying for y’all. This podcast could be life changing for some of you.
@paulgoblet7393
@paulgoblet7393 6 ай бұрын
Wait a second. Is this Rob the former employee of that pic simulator organization?
@CirclesOffHQ
@CirclesOffHQ 6 ай бұрын
Yes, Rob ran Prediction Machine for a year. He talks about it regularly on the pod.
@rodneyproctor5566
@rodneyproctor5566 6 ай бұрын
Simon is not a bad on his picks
@andrewaitkens7848
@andrewaitkens7848 10 ай бұрын
This was sooo funny wow
@andrewbranson4874
@andrewbranson4874 Жыл бұрын
I love how Chad Millman struts around the internet like someone who "knows a lot" about the professional sports betting space when his job is just a bunch of SEO related stuff
@kabutoyakushi6618
@kabutoyakushi6618 9 ай бұрын
Yeah he only wrote best selling books even back in the late 90s following professional bettors and has been friends with many professionals and others in the space for decades. Has been sports betting for decades. Was editor-in-chief at ESPN, Made his own sports betting company and app that sold for $240 million. Yeah he doesn't know nearly as much as you do! Back to McDonalds bud.
@andrewbranson4874
@andrewbranson4874 9 ай бұрын
@@kabutoyakushi6618 lmfao
@tylercroskey2462
@tylercroskey2462 9 ай бұрын
@@kabutoyakushi6618damn roasted him too hard lol
@pstick9934
@pstick9934 9 ай бұрын
Chad did say that the wise guys liked denver before the miami massacre , and colin never brought that up later
@kabutoyakushi6618
@kabutoyakushi6618 9 ай бұрын
@@pstick9934 I can tell you don't do this for a living lol picking the Denver side is always the correct side in that game in the long run. That game was an absolute anomaly. You are probably the same guy who took Miami and thought it was easy the next following week against the bills.
@shaunmansion9669
@shaunmansion9669 5 ай бұрын
Do these guys bet nfl at all. The books limit you early in the week so none of the sports groups can put down the amounts they want to eventually have on a game. And this season he was definitely profitable on his free picks he gave out on the show 5 picks each week. And that’s ATS no money lines. And he loves dawgs fr 😂😂😂
@tammidanks2218
@tammidanks2218 9 ай бұрын
Simon gives me 5-7 free picks on his podcasts each week. Over 2 years I've listened to his picks publicly win at a 60% or higher rate. U guys should do a public retraction
@chosensports
@chosensports 7 ай бұрын
His record is literally in the negative. Why you lying
@bencoglitore6274
@bencoglitore6274 7 ай бұрын
Simon has a 49% win percentage in nfl he’s a losing bettor
@tbewin1z143
@tbewin1z143 7 ай бұрын
@@bencoglitore6274This year. He has close to a 60% win percentage in year's past. This year, handicappers are struggling because favorites keep winning and they like to bet underdogs with value.
@CirclesOffHQ
@CirclesOffHQ 7 ай бұрын
As of this moment, he is 525-534-18 for -18.81 units in NFL wagering and this is available for all to see on The Action Network's website. So no, he's not winning at 60%.
@tbewin1z143
@tbewin1z143 7 ай бұрын
@@CirclesOffHQ As I have stated in another post, Simon has had a terrible year due to his hesitancy to bet favorites, which I actually complimented you guys for pointing out as a major flaw to his ideology. He was close to 60% of picks given out on his The Favorites podcast with Chad Millman last year.
@Dbales34
@Dbales34 Жыл бұрын
This guy is to sports betting as brendan schaub is to comedy
@joshackerman2823
@joshackerman2823 5 ай бұрын
The fact that you just spent your time making fun of a guy who gives out his betting thoughts for free. The Favorites is extremely entertaining which is why most of us bet. The Favorites is a great podcast.
@CirclesOffHQ
@CirclesOffHQ 5 ай бұрын
Nobody is suggesting that you shouldn't listen to things that you find entertaining. Rob and Johnny mostly have issues with content creators who misrepresent themselves.
@shawnwines7490
@shawnwines7490 6 ай бұрын
How do u buy a betting syndicate? What are u buying ? The picks of the syndicate handicappers? In that case ur a client. Maybe ur buying the client list? Well y would these clients trust new ownership that they dont know? The whole buying of syndicates smells funny like gas station tacos funny
@415_Stand-up
@415_Stand-up 5 ай бұрын
Every time simon says i been talking to some pros HE IS FULL OF 💩
@troytorrence1496
@troytorrence1496 8 ай бұрын
The reason you only have 100 clients, is because they want to manage the money to control the line. You don’t just put 100K down on a game in 1 bet, but a constant stream of smaller bets
@CirclesOffHQ
@CirclesOffHQ 7 ай бұрын
Why do pro bettors have clients?
@dexterbacchus8009
@dexterbacchus8009 7 ай бұрын
Is it Possible that Simon is working for the Books, and he’s out to steer the Joe Public bet for the Books Benefit.
@shawnwines7490
@shawnwines7490 6 ай бұрын
Yes most of these ppl are
@trizzo5147
@trizzo5147 6 ай бұрын
That's exactly what most of these KZfaq guys are. Kyle and Andy are the only 2 I know for sure aren't working for books
@stevecarpenter2638
@stevecarpenter2638 5 ай бұрын
I don't think they work with them but I think they put out information for the public to bet on and they go the other way not caring about the reputation of their pics.
@shawnwines7490
@shawnwines7490 6 ай бұрын
One point i have to make a successful pro better has no need to make vids and podcasts. Im telling u only like 5 percent of ppl watching this video knows the names of 3 real pro betters. If ur watching it on youtube or anywhere online its a gimmick
@CirclesOffHQ
@CirclesOffHQ 6 ай бұрын
In most cases, this is true. Rob has a unique story in that he started in media before becoming a pro bettor. Without that original origin story, he very likely would be behind the scenes.
@anthonyscerbo8274
@anthonyscerbo8274 6 ай бұрын
Watch a few episodes before jump8ng to conclusions, these guys are legit.
@scottramsay1628
@scottramsay1628 Жыл бұрын
More tilted by this guys nose than anything else.
@deleee2313
@deleee2313 4 ай бұрын
I’ve delayed watching this as I’m scared of 2nd hand embarrassment, but my god I’m 1000% convinced these hate comments have to be from Simon burners. There’s actually not a single person on earth who has or ever will attempt to gain an edge gambling that could ever defend Simon’s nonsensical blabbering. I’m genuinely confused.
@moistoyster5728
@moistoyster5728 8 ай бұрын
Personally couldn’t care less about Simon’s personal life or whatever else it is you’re all mad about. This is strange. The guy gives out free picks week after week and doesn’t charge anything to do so. Action network picks as a whole are transparent as they can be. Picks cannot be deleted by admin’s and everyone who gives out picks records are tracked. This show is just strange..
@CirclesOffHQ
@CirclesOffHQ 7 ай бұрын
Nobody is disputing that the free picks or the transparency. The main issue that our hosts have are when others misrepresent themselves in the industry. Most people don't know how to decipher truth from non-truth in the space and it creates a dangerous precedent when people are representing themselves as industry experts when they are not.
@funisnumberone1
@funisnumberone1 5 ай бұрын
@@CirclesOffHQ So this is a Public Service Announcement? Ha, maybe, or maybe YOU'RE DOING IT FOR THE MONEY?
@DannyGoes_
@DannyGoes_ 6 ай бұрын
52:11 i trade services, like HJs, for picks
@bencoglitore6274
@bencoglitore6274 7 ай бұрын
Fact: Simon has a losing record in NFL, you can see his record on the action network (down 20 units as of December 23). If you tailed him and made money, congratulations you’ got lucky over a small sample. Rob and Johnny know what they are talking about.
@tbewin1z143
@tbewin1z143 7 ай бұрын
the handicappers are down this year because favorites are covering at an astounding rate; in past years, Simon and Chad have well over a 50% hit rate
@paulleidig6095
@paulleidig6095 6 ай бұрын
@@tbewin1z143 Spot on. I've been a NFL Bet 5 ATS for the past 8 years. I've been following Simon's picks for the last two seasons. Since following Simon, I've finished Top 5. Never finished in the Top 5 prior to following Hunter.
@funisnumberone1
@funisnumberone1 5 ай бұрын
Is that on ALL picks or his best bets of the week?
@goattombrady5837
@goattombrady5837 7 ай бұрын
When simon says he can find a game thats off on a opener and that he knows the public will bet the other side of him and he continous bets against where the line going to build "value" thats all you need to know hes clueless. You may as well be sending your tesla for an oil change 😂
@endcapitalism
@endcapitalism 6 ай бұрын
Following Simon's advice I am 113-82 ATS this season.
@shawnwines7490
@shawnwines7490 6 ай бұрын
I call bs
@larrysykes1075
@larrysykes1075 6 ай бұрын
He has been terrific this season.
@larrysykes1075
@larrysykes1075 6 ай бұрын
​@@shawnwines7490so go and look it up for yourself
@shawnwines7490
@shawnwines7490 6 ай бұрын
What show are u watchn? I've watched the one where they do the big balls bet of the week and the fox hole and Simon says and it's been horrible over the last 4 or 5 weeks he just keeps picking the jets and other dogs and they keep loosing. He had the bears this week that barely held on to the cover only if u got them plus the hook he had the jets again that got beat by 30 and what else?
@shawnwines7490
@shawnwines7490 6 ай бұрын
The guys a fraud he literally just fades the most public favorite
@MAJOR-D
@MAJOR-D 4 ай бұрын
I don’t know what you two are doing criticizing another young man , it’s very difficult to win 60/65% of your wages at the end of the season unless you’re picking 70/80% Wich is nearly impossible and really know how to manage money gambling is very difficult and thinking I know more than someone else is not easy but I’d still make sure my own house is in order before I criticize someone else.
@CirclesOffHQ
@CirclesOffHQ 4 ай бұрын
Oh don't worry, our houses are in order! Thanks for checking in though
@larrygreen9792
@larrygreen9792 6 ай бұрын
What a reach. I hate that I gave you guys a view. Simon the goat
@tommydavidwalker2445
@tommydavidwalker2445 6 ай бұрын
Poor poor Simon
@DMJ160
@DMJ160 6 ай бұрын
Yes, this simon hunter character weeks ago talked about Leslie Frazier being the Vikings defensive coordinator. I was like...this guy is a total clown and knows nothing. Now, I find this video! Good to see someone calling this idiot out! Says he don't know the NFL that well. He doesn't know the NFL either...his specialty.
@DMJ160
@DMJ160 6 ай бұрын
@@johnstavrakis9190 lol, embarrassing? Yes, simon should be. One thinng to mispeak, another to be off by 11 years and Frazier was a head coach and not coordinator for the Vikings. Any “professional” sports bettor would know this. You’re bizzarre for even raising your point. Move along now.
@mikewilliams3509
@mikewilliams3509 6 ай бұрын
He has bad 2 weeks in a row plenty of times
@golfnjokes
@golfnjokes 8 ай бұрын
This is terrible because anybody who knows anything about professional sports betting knows Simon Hunter is one of the best.
@CirclesOffHQ
@CirclesOffHQ 8 ай бұрын
you definitely got jokes
@golfnjokes
@golfnjokes 8 ай бұрын
listen to his weekly pick show and see his record. He does well. You can't deny it.@@CirclesOffHQ
@insight7013
@insight7013 7 ай бұрын
LOL!!!!
@seahawksforlifewhydoihavet6815
@seahawksforlifewhydoihavet6815 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for exposing Simon he’s a trust fund kid who doesn’t know football at all, he’s a joke in the pro betting community. Doesn’t know any pros at all lol
@julianmayo5650
@julianmayo5650 6 ай бұрын
Knowing pros has nothing to do with winning bets
@weinerbones1820
@weinerbones1820 6 ай бұрын
You guys are massively misteprenting what simon is all about. He knows his stuff as a capper. Go look at the faves podcast. Documented on action platform they are 112-73 over the past seasons betting ATS. How can you ignore that?
@anthonyscerbo8274
@anthonyscerbo8274 6 ай бұрын
Because he also tracks all his bets on action network. And all time he is down 20 units in NFL. he’s not a professional, he’s not even a profitable casual gambler. He’s a fraudulent pick seller who is a good marketer. He makes his dough off convincing people he’s a good gambler, it’s what 99% of “pick sellers” do. None of these guys would be selling gambling picks if they had could click buttons on their computer and make thousands a day. Wouldn’t those picks also be worth thousands if they are GARUNTEED winners? See the fallacy? Simon is one of thousands who sell picks. If you sell your picks, you sell your edge. People who win are EXTREMELY secretive about what their edge is, and especially how they found it.
@jamesbohm3690
@jamesbohm3690 6 ай бұрын
@@anthonyscerbo8274 where does he sell picks? Every week he goes over the entire slate on the podcast and says who he's betting on. I've also heard him say time and again "never, ever buy picks"
@tbewin1z143
@tbewin1z143 6 ай бұрын
@@anthonyscerbo8274you post this everywhere, except HE DOES NOT SELL picks
@OPPOSMITE
@OPPOSMITE 6 ай бұрын
It's not the same!! The books only take so much money guys! Either you guys have no clue what your talking about (that's a problem) or just flat out haters! Anyone that tries getting likes and a following from bashing someone (even more so when you have no clue what he's talking about ie NO CLUE WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT! ) this podcast is making an issue from absolutely nothing! It's impossible to take anything you guys say serious at this point! So what do you guys have to offer? How much is it? What's your picks ROI look like? Spending this much time nitpicking someone else's words literally word for word, only tells me you guys are not very good at sports betting and desperately looking for alternative income streams!
@OPPOSMITE
@OPPOSMITE 6 ай бұрын
Everything he's saying can actually be proven just from watching Chad Millmen and his (Simon Hunter's) show You can find it on KZfaq @ Action Sports Network If you want great picks with proven ROI track record, just give them a watch and let your eyes be the judge
@jimrho58
@jimrho58 6 ай бұрын
Smh these 2 are just haters! Follow simons picks and youll win who cares what his credentials are . Does he win?
@CirclesOffHQ
@CirclesOffHQ 6 ай бұрын
No, he doesn't. He has a publicly documented record on Action Network that is down in the NFL over a large sample size.
@anthonyscerbo8274
@anthonyscerbo8274 6 ай бұрын
Because he also tracks all his bets on action network. And all time he is down 20 units in NFL. he’s not a professional, he’s not even a profitable casual gambler. He’s a fraudulent pick seller who is a good marketer. He makes his dough off convincing people he’s a good gambler, it’s what 99% of “pick sellers” do. None of these guys would be selling gambling picks if they could click buttons on their computer and make thousands a day. Wouldn’t those picks also be worth thousands if they are GARUNTEED winners? See the fallacy? Simon is one of thousands who sell picks. If you sell your picks, you sell your edge. People who win are EXTREMELY secretive about what their edge is, and especially how they found it.
@sl8038
@sl8038 Жыл бұрын
You guys come across as haters.
@insight7013
@insight7013 7 ай бұрын
You come across as a troll
@insight7013
@insight7013 7 ай бұрын
I wonder how much these Simon Hunter trolls were paid. If you believe Simon Hunter is a professional gambler you got big problems or you're a paid troll LOL!!!! Have a blessed day :)
@plo888
@plo888 6 ай бұрын
I'm a favorites fan and of chad and simon. All i've heard from you guys are nit picking the most minute and least significant piece of the interview and spend 10 mins breaking down ...and aol acct, BRUH!
@plo888
@plo888 6 ай бұрын
You guys just spent 10 mins talking about someone spending 80 vs 85 hours. Every press conference has athletes saying we work 110%, no human can produce more than 100% why arent u guys nit picking athletes and calling them out. You guys are absolute clowns 😂😅
@CirclesOffHQ
@CirclesOffHQ 6 ай бұрын
We don't understand how this is at all relevant. We run a sports betting education channel.
@plo888
@plo888 6 ай бұрын
@@CirclesOffHQ fake news reporting
@JacocForthe
@JacocForthe 7 ай бұрын
I got excited when I saw this video because I've suspected the same stuff about Simon but you guys are so inept and try to pick on the dumbest points that I actually came away from this with MORE confidence in Simon.
@CirclesOffHQ
@CirclesOffHQ 7 ай бұрын
What were some of the points that you disagreed with?
@tbewin1z143
@tbewin1z143 7 ай бұрын
Guys, there are way better targets; you know guys who make people pay for picks and give out half their picks to half the people and the other half to the rest. Those people scam people out of money. Simon gives out picks for free and his record is available to the public. And you are seriously going to tell me that Oregon -9.5 was not a trap line (hint, the public fell for it and the books won big)?
@CirclesOffHQ
@CirclesOffHQ 7 ай бұрын
Yes, because “trap lines” aren’t real. Thanks for your time.
@tbewin1z143
@tbewin1z143 7 ай бұрын
⁠@@CirclesOffHQAlso, 1. it's obvious this guy is more than a tout service, he bets on behalf of others; 2. he limits the clients to limit the amount of money he's putting on the bets so the books don't get wise and the number doesn't get affected and 3. he continuously bets against the public on dogs he likes to get more value, literally bets the number he likes which will result in the number moving towards the favorite (from other "wise guys" as well). The only thing you guys were correct to bash him on was his hesitancy to bet favorites. That is why he is having a down year simply because the favorites are covering a lot this year. There was no legitimate reason to have Oregon -9.5 vs undefeated Washington in a conference title game on a neutral field except to sucker the public (and it worked). Same can be said for that O/U of 30 in last nights game. They kept the number frozen at 30 and just watched as the under bets kept rolling in.
@user-hg6gp3ml6r
@user-hg6gp3ml6r 6 ай бұрын
you guys are such haters its comical. who is he scamming. he gives picks for free. nobody is paying or forced to bet anything. if you dont like him, you dont have to listen to the pods or follow picks lol.
@larrygrasso6032
@larrygrasso6032 6 ай бұрын
Simon is a millionaire..
@CirclesOffHQ
@CirclesOffHQ 5 ай бұрын
uhh
@LABoyko
@LABoyko 5 ай бұрын
Hunter struggled to provide a clear, straight answer to any question posed. Only reasonable conclusion: he's a grifter.
@darianhanson7067
@darianhanson7067 5 ай бұрын
Good job painting yourselves as snobby trash sports bettors.
@turner0224
@turner0224 7 ай бұрын
26 minutes of my life I’ll never get back. I like comedy as much as anyone but this is really a stretch …
@TEEDUBBS0000
@TEEDUBBS0000 8 ай бұрын
Who are these guys? LOL guessing it is in Pazzola s basement in Skokie…
@JoshDamm
@JoshDamm 7 ай бұрын
Pizzola is super sharp and releases more sharp info publicly than almost anyone in the space. If you actually want to win at sports betting long term, watch/listen to Forward Progress, Circles Off, Edge Work and anything else Pizzola is a part of.
@toiphainoi888
@toiphainoi888 7 ай бұрын
2 haters looking for click bate
@CirclesOffHQ
@CirclesOffHQ 7 ай бұрын
There is nothing in here that was intended to be clickbait whatsoever.
@trut3296
@trut3296 6 ай бұрын
Giant red arrow that says exposed as the thumbnail but nothing is meant to be clickbait 😂
@anthonyscerbo8274
@anthonyscerbo8274 6 ай бұрын
Simon tracks all his bets on action network. And all time he is down 20 units in NFL. he’s not a professional, he’s not even a profitable casual gambler. if you knew a lick about gambling you would understand the prestige that comes with a pinnacle sponsorship. You probably still give money to books like pointsbet and ESPNbet. Praying for y’all. This podcast could be life changing for some of you.
@recreationalplayer1119
@recreationalplayer1119 Жыл бұрын
He a clown
@christopherscruggs3897
@christopherscruggs3897 4 ай бұрын
Very entertaining man hahahahahahahhaahhahahahahahahahahaahhahaahhahaahhahaahhaa
@jamietaylor591
@jamietaylor591 Жыл бұрын
This aged horribly….he’s currently 49-26 on the season (all documented ) which is a higher winning percentage than you guys have
@thebeasters
@thebeasters Жыл бұрын
Even a blind drunk cat can go on a heater, this is about a lifetime of work not one year
@tommcpeek2284
@tommcpeek2284 Жыл бұрын
My dog could go 49-26, who cares about a 75 game sample size get off the burner man
@childishgambino3194
@childishgambino3194 Жыл бұрын
If ur dog can pick 70% can i buy his picks?
@tylercroskey2462
@tylercroskey2462 9 ай бұрын
@@tommcpeek2284 so your dog is a pro gambler? Man your dogs net worth must be high.
@jboug23
@jboug23 8 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠ 😂😂 Prove it. Put your dog in front of two different bowls of water with team names on them for 75 NFL games and let’s see your dog go 49-26. You’re out of your depth buddy 😂 Nice try, though.
@ahmednasr6847
@ahmednasr6847 8 ай бұрын
Lmao simon is clearly a good handicapper if not great. Majority of public loses, his takes are always against the public for the most part, so no wonder you two guys, who clearly bet with the public and lose think hes fake.......this is denefiniton of pathetic and embarrassing.
@CirclesOffHQ
@CirclesOffHQ 7 ай бұрын
Simon has 986 NFL bets tracked on Action Network where he has lost 16.87 units at the time of this post. This is exactly why this video needed to be made. There are too many people that cannot discern what is real from what is not in the sports betting industry.
@ahmednasr6847
@ahmednasr6847 7 ай бұрын
@CirclesOffHQ lmao took you 2 weeks to come up with that reply.....im sure his bank account speaks differently unlike yours....your video first 5 minutes "A:whats a syndication. B: No idea. A: Me neither lets talk shit about what we dont know now for views bc were not good at life." Yeah but speak the truth.....
@insight7013
@insight7013 7 ай бұрын
@ahmednasr6847 You have no idea what your talking about LOL!!!!!
@ahmednasr6847
@ahmednasr6847 7 ай бұрын
@insight7013 okay!
@delwalton2132
@delwalton2132 11 күн бұрын
I'm sorry .. you guys sound like total trolls.... Smh. Parsing, EVERY SINGLE WORD is ridiculous. Just because he keeps betting more as "the number gets better" doesn't mean the previous number was "bad".... I've gotten GOOD NUMBERS and it get EVEN BETTER several times. If I believe in the original number, then, I should REALLY BELIEVE in the better number.... Smh. Basic logic
@LABoyko
@LABoyko 5 ай бұрын
FRAUD ALERT: when they establish different "tiers" based upon their confidence level of a specific play. Real pros are disciplined. They bet the same amount every game.
@ChiefsWin316
@ChiefsWin316 4 ай бұрын
You really are stupid, pros do not bet the same on every bet... lmfao you really are stupid.
@robertcarter114
@robertcarter114 Жыл бұрын
Haters gonna hate
@louisjodoin4472
@louisjodoin4472 6 ай бұрын
I been following his picks for the last 2 years and it’s profitable, and he does bet favs on occasion, everything he says makes sense, idc bout all this nonsense but I’ll say he knows his stuff, he just went 4-0 this weekend
@samuelmorse784
@samuelmorse784 6 ай бұрын
What were the 4 teams. im dying to know
@anthonyscerbo8274
@anthonyscerbo8274 6 ай бұрын
Simon tracks all his bets on action network. And all time he is down 20 units in NFL. he’s not a professional, he’s not even a profitable casual gambler. if you knew a lick about gambling you would understand the prestige that comes with a pinnacle sponsorship. You probably still give money to books like pointsbet and ESPNbet. Praying for y’all. This podcast could be life changing for some of you.
@beebop333
@beebop333 Жыл бұрын
I have been listining to the favorites podcast for about 3 years , I have never really believed all of the stuff that Simon says ,but if you followed his 5 best picks every week you would be ahead, maybe its all BS I really dont care
@briany2516
@briany2516 Жыл бұрын
The 5 picks aren’t current lines though they’re contest lines that lock early in the week. Of course if the line moves 2 points and take the stale line you’ll be profitable.
@kabutoyakushi6618
@kabutoyakushi6618 9 ай бұрын
You have been listening for 3 years and cant tell that they are legit? Now I know why you are listening to these 2 confused geeks.
@beebop333
@beebop333 9 ай бұрын
Did you read what I said?
@insight7013
@insight7013 7 ай бұрын
@@kabutoyakushi6618 your the only confused person here LOSER!!!!!
@doggfriendly
@doggfriendly 5 ай бұрын
Simons picks seem more logical than Ross Tuckers unit eating picks that he claims he is betting
@aposulli
@aposulli Жыл бұрын
Savage thumbnail. I don’t agree with discrediting someone in the professional betting space simply because they’re dodgy and occasionally rambling. Even if Simon is nothing more than a middle-man, I do honestly believe he has intel that most bettors wish they had. He doesn’t market himself as a tout. Never. And he’s about as honest as it gets in the betting media business.
@gobsmacked123
@gobsmacked123 Жыл бұрын
I think if he was as honest as it gets in the media business he would be marketing himself as a tout and not a professional bettor.
@aposulli
@aposulli Жыл бұрын
Given the (understandable) lack of transparency, i think it’s fair to call him one or the other. I don’t think it’s fair to mis-lead BetStamp listeners into believing that Simon’s career is fraudulent
@joelnorris6895
@joelnorris6895 Жыл бұрын
What are you even talking about? This dude is a complete fraud lmaooo
@MrJamberee
@MrJamberee Жыл бұрын
@@aposulli Sorry, but this guy is a fraud. He claims he is getting info from syndicates he bought out, and he is then selling that info. His story is just ridiculous, fairy tale nonsense. He is just a lousy tout trying to find new clients to sucker.
@WONANDONESPORTS
@WONANDONESPORTS Жыл бұрын
What information
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