Looks almost identical. I might not be surprised if both sets came out of the same factory.

Starting around 14:25, the bass hits on the fake Focal produces a LOT less movement than on the real Focal, seen especially when paying attention to the rubber surround. Also it looks to me like the center cone on the fake has a sharper profile shape than the real one. There is a notable difference in the dynamics between the speakers, the audio on the real Focal seems a bit more dynamic. The fake is no slouch though, also sounds good based on your smartphone audio recording. Great job on the comparison, thanks for sharing it. I was considering buying a discounted open item Focal from Crutchfield, but knowing that there are a lot of counterfeits, there's a possibility that an original purchaser may have abused Crutchfield's gracious return policy by fraudulently keeping returning a fake while keeping the real item?

I’m sure the same Chinese company is manufacturing both! The “fake” ones might be factory Seconds designated for the Grey market!

bass is more extended on original woofer and sensitivity is better on the original

The are made in same factory but different years of manufacturing. These have been produced may years. There are small changes in production over the years.

Please send the link for the fake ones 😅

They probably are not fake. As these are both made in China. The probably package up rejects and sell them. Being we see the slight color difference etc.

Damn the range on both speaker are different, I can even see the movement of the cones. The fake have small angulation vs the originals angulation. You can even see the movement of the cones up and down, the original maybe have twice or more range than the fake.

Hmmm. Did you contact Focal I bet you they are real the wire I'm sure they out source so it would be a production can change and that would explain the difference. Or what about b- stock merchandise at the discounted price?

Congratulations on a dam good comparison video my friend. I was surprised at how close they sounded. Did you use an amplifier on these, or just the HU

Nice to know thanks for the info.

Is there fake focal sound dampening material rolls around too?? I found 2 rolls local the bam xxxl

Really curious about the sound , problem once a company has a product made in China it's now there's to copy at will and sell to who ever . Who knows these both may be made in same factory even

Thank you... I had no idea there is fake ones out there

WOW. That has got to be the best copy of a product I've ever seen. I did see the real woofer during playback has a bigger rubber surround. Not by much though. If they copied them so good, I'd bet the fake ones probably sound pretty good. Same happened a while back with Energy and Monoprice home speakers. The difference in that case was the Monoprice fake was actually a one to one copy with the exact same parts and no audio distinction. They were sued and had to modify their speakers. The Chinese are getting really good at copies.

Fake or not. I can guarantee the fake sounds incredible too

Sorry to tell you. Both are real. Both made in China and probably just product that someone swiped before it got to package and label for focal.

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thanks for the sound test

If they outsource production to china how do you know either one is fake? Maybe 2 different build houses and one of them just sucks.

Honestly I listen to these blind for first time not watching video just listening and thought the fake woofer sounded better lol. Great video

The crossovers were much easier to spot the fake, at least for me anyways; 1. The serial number (10W 3R9J) on the fake unit was VERY dark ink, and the lettering was off-center. 2. The zip tie used around the wire coils on the fake one were much thicker zip ties than what was used on the authentic unit.

If the movie house of Gucci didn’t already teach us this. Gucci was making the fakes and selling them for cheap so they could also tap into the more demand market. Same factories made both. I know this isn’t the case for all of them but when you see a almost identical fake you have to wonder right?

difficult to spot fake focal unless u have the real speaker to compare side by side

They came from the same factory and the Sound Quality is probably the same. One just get distributor through focal and the other one goes straight through the consumer. Its no longer fake vs real. Its more of cut out the Vendor and middle man because you contract higher volume manufacturing to meet your bottom line profit.

its pretty obvious focal budget line is chinese.. the factory that made them, just sold them also...

They came from the same factory. Label colour differs from batches and batches. The soundbox used to test the woofers were horrible. No meaning to test without setting up all three drivers with crossover in a proper enclosure. The music used to test them wasn’t good either. It sounds horrible from the recording.

The false Focals appear to have larger magnets

If they're both made in China then there the same damn thing

Not all focal models are made in France so the factory that made those is probably under cutting focal like crazy.

Box Boxes are fake as well? Other fakes I have dealt with the trained eye can tell from the box. And In the 1st shot of this video both look really good.

Where to buy the fake ones

A better comparison would be with all 3 speakers and the filters. Anyway, the fake one sound muddy like a Bose, the real one is a lot better.

They are not Fake at all they are made in the same Wherhouse they are probably made a year or two apart from each other different Lot number maybe they used a different wire supplier for the tweeters its Manufacturing 101 you are trying you hardest to find a fault whaen there isn't any...Bro they are both Legit 💯🙏

Where do I buy the fake ones

I expected performance to not be on par, but when you hear the fake you can notice that signature Focal sound, where you don't find with any other brand. I don't think these are QA rejects or old stock, just roughly the same speaker but made with slightly poorer components, the bad quality copper wire on the tweeter for instance. I've bought a wireless Shure 2 mic set for $75 in Vietnam which performed and sounded amazing compared to a generic wired mic, but it wasn't as durable as the real deal though it outputted the familiar Shure sound.

@ HEPA King post a link for the fake ones.

Give a link to the fake ones. They sound 10X better than the real ones. Except for the tweeters, the real ones definitely got that

Ehere can I buy the fake one , looks like it's well made, please send link 🙏 thank you

The real question is are they sound the same??

where can I buy the fake one? because it sounds way better

Link for the fake please..

The one from Amazon may not be real. This is my experience of buying a loupe in Amazon US.

and fake is not that bad either..lol depending on cost difference , I might go for the fake if it was a lot cheaper in price

FOCAL are Expensive AF..I almost bought a set in Houston, TX at Flea market at a much cheaper price..I went with Memphis..I blew the 5 1/4 set but still have 6×9 separates..I'm wondering if I too bought knock offs..DAM!!!! the 5 1/4 blew way to easily on a Fosgate 4 channel and the fronts didn't. The fronts where Legend 5 1/4 loud speakers. I'm not a fan of either!! Seems like the new schoolers like that loud PA sound with horn treble..Clarity and center stage sound was my goal ....

woofer test full range not right, maybe they will sound much closer with crossover.

Right after opening the box, the packing on thr box to the right is not lined up cleanly which tells me immediately that is the fake Focals.

very worry buy speaker Focal.Thanks for information

Sound comparisons CANNOT be accurately made if you distort the video's sound by using too loud of a signal for your camera's microphone to handle! It amazes me just how many people don't grasp that basic concept! SMH... These two speaker sets are so close to each other it almost makes me think that they are both prob. made in the exact same factory, but that the real one is the only one of the two sets that actually passed the "quality control" checks to be sold at legit dealers, and the "fake" one is just a "second", or a "reject" one that failed the quality control checks for some reason... If some (other, no name) company wanted to really make a totally fake version of these, I would suspect that the driver quality would be considerably different and inferior, especially in cone material and motor/magnet structure, and the crossovers would most likely be majorly different, with a cheap copy version of the crossover using much inferior components compared to the real one, simply because the crossovers of speakers are prob. the most misunderstood part of any speaker, and also one of the most difficult to make really good AND inexpensively... it's either designed using good quality (and relatively expensive) parts, or else poor quality, cheaper parts, but since not too many "average" people know ANYTHING about what makes up a truly good quality crossover, I would think that would be the definite "weak link" in any cheap copy of this speaker set, since the crossover would be the easiest way to "get away with" using inferior components... because most people don't know any better... However, these two speaker sets look so similar, even in the crossovers, (as far as I could see when pausing the video on the side by side view of them), that I'm leaning more towards one of these sets being a totally good, fully "passed" (inspection) set, and the "fake" one rather just being sold cheaper at a "non authorized" dealer because it was a "factory reject" for whatever (relatively minor) reason. In order to tell with any more accuracy I would have to inspect these two sets myself, in person, especially the crossovers and their exact circuit and component values.

It looks like the fake ones had larger magnets

Which one is fake and which one is real? How can we spot the fake? help please

Thanks Wont be uying any FOCAL now. Very much appreciated. Cheaters neveeeeeeer prosper~

Now I have to check mine

I bet they come from the same manufacture from china.... Like power acoustic, jensen.. Like Kenwood and JVC.. Same manufacture.

Thank you for this video !

Both are real .Only different production dat year.

Where can I order the Fake Focals? They sound great :)

They are both made in what they call now as "OEM" in China. Also, because in China there is no such thing as patent rights so anybody with cash can ask this "OEM" company to make identical units with their own branding or same brand. But the difference is the budget of the client. If the customer ask this "OEM" companies for a smaller cost then some compromise in some parts , usually internal parts, would be done diffeerently thus making it somewhat inferior to the original but not much.

Hepa King plz send me this focal original set . it's my wish

I'll take the fake ones for the price

they're good copies hey !? thanks for video

100% PROBABLY FROM THE SAME FACTORY

They both sound like a cell phone speaker to me.

Both tweeters sounds the same!!!! Both sound TERRIBLE!!!!!!! I guess I have deaf ears!!!!! From what I've ever heard from Focal there tweeters have been so pitche you need a DSP. To smooth them out!!! Heard that from many installers. Had heard there Utopias.. Heard them for 5 minutes had to turn them down because of there pitche sound. So I reverse one wire on the tweeter put them out of phase sounded much better.. But if you have a DSP would make it sound perfect.... Sorry this comparison doesn't work for me. Now maybe if he enclosed each 6.5 it might make a bigger difference in sound quality.. Just saying..

The speaker mesh sample on front of box is turned a different way

He should have switched the speakes and tried one more time, probably just he way he conected them to his phone they was not geting the same power. That explains the cone movment.

I’ve noticed that the real ones has no sticker and instruction manual.

14:41 fake definitely sounds muddy!!! real has more dynamic range

Wrong; the fake one on left sounds brighter than the real one on the right

Amazon sell fake ones too 😂😂

The Tweeters sound similar

if they sound the same you have 2 pairs then :)

Focal does not distribute to Amazon, they will not give you warranty. Beware

How can you speak on fake speakers with such bad video sound?? Did you use a fake microphone?

The magnet of fake is bigger than the original

What happens when you let other nations make all your stuff.

The fake ones were brighter and sounded better, but hard to say for sure over youtube.

I would buy fake one after seeing this comparison 😉

If the original cost 50% more than the fake one and sound only 20% better than fake one than the fake one is better. Simple math.

I bought the fake ones for $100usd on TaoBao, worth every penny.

They are not fake one they are also from same factory and made in china but lot is long long older like 6 -8 years I have ps165 V1 series and auditor series same one box is without bill and warranty and one is with bill and warranty they sound same no difference except some has corrosion on tweeter wire and some speaker cones look old and but not fake

Very similar!!!!!!!! real one play some frequency that fake one dont

I saw focals on ali express so they must be the fake ones in this video 🤔

Fake one rubber looks ultra soft then real one

Why does everyone pronounce it focale?

I need a link to the fake ones lol

It's the same product, the fake ones are not fake they are just smuggled from the factory and sold cheap.. Obviously they have saved on taxes

I cant see any diffrence in the video good clone that is scary i wonder if i could feel the diffrence if i had the speakers in my hands? if not i would have been easly scammed

The fake one sounds better.

Sadly Focals quality is not very good anymore even their quite expensive studio monitors use the cheapest components from china

They r not fake focal itself made them 8n china..... in bigger numbers..bcs made in china cost reduced almost half...that's it...one is made in china one is made in France ....but both by focal...

The distorion of the recorded sound is so immense that any effort (and it is a lot of effort i can tell)goes out of the window.No real comparisson can be made dew to this fact.

I would bet the farm, that they both came from the same manufacturer .

Yeah, lets outsource everything, what bad could happen...

I think there bith focal and someone just undercut the high markup prices!

It's from the same factory no difference

Focal... just look at those cheesy xover parts

I would bet they're not fake they were assembled in China, nowadays all the parts are made in China and assembled in different countries so they can say they were made there. Digital design audio, JL audio and audio names like that parts all come from China and they're high-end stuff is a symbol in the US. Those baskets came off of an assembly line

In refer fate one more deeper 😂😂😂

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