The voiced protag is funny.. It IS bad for telling an actual fallout story with a character that is ours and not theirs. But the one for Nate DID do a good job

@@OhNoTheFace what is an “actual fallout story”

I agree. It's hard for me to get into fallout 4 because of protagonist speaking. Literally everything else is solid tho.

It's not the voice protagonist that's holding it back. It's the Main writer and designer Emil Pagliarulo.

Nah all the sarcastic and silver shroud dialogues is only possible with voiced protagonist. Without it, the sarcastic lines just fall flat... One reason why the funny lines in Starfield ain't as funny

Oh yeah, absolutely. FNV got them big ideas and cool stories and settings galore, but Fallout 4 simply has the best gameplay hands down. It also has more gameplay mechanics, so no wonder it’s been a great modding base. I think that fallout 4 fails on a story and social commentary thing, because generally it’s just “nukes bad look at the Americans being scared of the color red” while NV has... I mean the main two factions are literally depictions of a flawed liberal democracy (NCR) and a fascist empire (Legion) and boy does it do a lot with the two. It also has Mr. House, which is a whole bag of worms. I’ll always prefer NV, that’s how it be, but fallout 4 just has the gameplay and mechanics. Modders get a playground. I could never finish fallout 3, idk what it’s like but I’ve heard it’s surprisingly linear

Fallout 3 is the best fnv story is ass

Fallout 3 does a lot better than New vegas, World building/environment, some of the most iconic locations in the series like republic of dave, andale, arefu, tenpenny tower, oasis, evergreen mills, the metro tunnels, rivet city, to name a few. New vegas world can be quite barren in contrast. But it could Be considered more of an rpg. They both do what they do excellently well, so your preference will come down to what it is you look for in a fallout game.

You mean gunplay and loot FO4's RPG mechanics are much worse than FO3 and FNV. Fallout is supposed to be a RPG first and foremost and FO4 is definitely the worst in that aspect. I would like this game way more if it were a spin off game, tbh.

@@Clarkamadorian "more gameplay mechanics" It literally removed Skills and Traits, and no vehicles to drive like the Highwayman.

"father, father!" Shaun said urgently

@@KindofBradAtThis mate did you fr just say fo4 looks like it came out this year?.. cmon man don’t be dishonest. It was literally panned at launch for outdated graphics and gameplay. Not sure how old you are but I remember when that first trailer dropped and everyone was like ‘wtf is this? Pixar playdoh adventures??’ Have you seen super mutants, ghouls and any item of clothing in game?.. everything looks like it’s made of cake. Nothing looks real. That’s not an art choice it’s just bad. Some things in game look really good, some look laughably bad. Do you seriously not remember everyone comparing Witcher 3 and Arkham knight to fo4? Arkham knight looks like it came out this year, fo4 looks like it came out in 2009. But Bethesda games have always had bad graphics. That was never their appeal (mods came in clutch for that). The gunplay of fo4 is just bad. It’s bad gunplay. Yes, it’s better than fo3, but obviously it is. Fo3 has some of the worst shooting in any FPS. Fo4 has marginally better shooting and relies so heavily on it for some crazy reason. A kick in the face is ‘better’ than a kick in the nuts, but neither are great. Far cry 2, a game from nearly 10 years prior to fo4, has better shooting. Fo4 has hitscan, ugly af ridiculous left hand weapons, no proper recoil or ballistic based projectile bullets. It fails as a competent shooter. And again, don’t be dishonest, fallout 4 is a straight up looter shooter. It’s not an RPG. Leveling up doesn’t make a game an RPG. Every location is a shooting gallery of bullet sponge enemies with nothing interesting to reward the player. Oh, a gun that’s exactly the same as every other version of said gun but it has a funny name and number go up? Wow, great. 11 unique items in fo4.. how insane is that. Bethesdas ethos for progression is just ‘number go up’. That’s boring. Give me a unique unique.

@@Yan-tz9pn yes I've seen a lot of new players say "fallout 4 looks great for an 8 year old game!" no tf it does not, look at assasin's creed unity, alan wake, GTA V, all games that look better than the best visual mods for fallout 4, and they all came out way before before FO4 even released. Fallout 4's graphics are comparable to those of Bioshock 2, a 2010 game.

@@Yan-tz9pnget a life, getting a random KZfaqr to read a whole book you wrote in their comments whining to the void shouldn’t be that important to you…

@@Yan-tz9pn TL;DR

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I hate this dialogue system so damn much, jesus, take my tongue already at this point lol

At least FO4 doesn't look like shit. Doesn't play like shit. And isn't completely empty.

@@king_isshiki wtf are you talking about, fo4 is the emptiest fallout game to date and ran like hot garbage for the first two years after release

@@king_isshiki "doesnt play like shit" have you been downtown?

Because with top-notch charisma, you have the ability to bs your way into anything.

@@DUNESDAY_ART in outer worlds, your other attributes play a role in gameplay AND dialogue options.

@@michelphilippe193 same with new vegas

@@michelphilippe193 As they do in Fallout 1, 2 and New Vegas.

The Outer Worlds, now that's a game i haven't heard in quite a while lmao.

I set up all the beds in the middle of the street and never went back bc fuck those mfs I wanted New Vegas 2. Stupid voiced protagonist I want good writing

That’s why FO4 now has alot of fans, new fans that never touched the better game’s out way before lol (or a real RPG maybe)

@@lorenzopiscosi9566 I played fo4 when it came out too, years later i tried nv and 3, both are dated games, their stories are good but they're insufferable to play with all the crashes and bugs. I'm certain in your time they were amazing, but if the first argument you make against fo4 is that people havent played the other games when they came out nothing else you have to defend the game with matters. If it was a matter of it being someone's first game because they're young and haven't played the previous installments fo76 would likely have had more players than fallout 4 does

@@lorenzopiscosi9566 Played 2, 3, NV and 4 when they came out. The main modding community left in NV back in the day was trying to make settlements and multiplayer. FO4 got settlements. The main character being able to actually rebuild the wasteland was a natural progression.

@@47ndrant42 previous games are far better, your zoomer brain just can't handle them

plus the graphics make it look cartoonish and goofy as well as way to clean for a wasteland. plus its infuriating choosing dialogue from one word. the story was alright.

@joshmiller9783 I agree about the graphics looking cartoony (and tbh they really aren't that much better than 3/NV in retrospect), but there is absolutely no reason a person in Boston wouldn't have picked up a broom in 200 years lol.

@@ColinAYB id say fnv and three were better graphics due only to how dark and gritty it made things feel. i remember being scared in both but never once in 4. i mean i can see them cleaning up their cities but the entire wasteland? idk it all just seemed to clean to me. also the whole not being able to be evil was annoying, at most you could be an asshole where in 3 you can wipe out an entire town or use the ghouls to wreak havoc on tenpenny tower. will say though no iron sights in 3 really irks me haha.

I played 4 before ever even thinking about new vegas and I still hated it, without mods its just mediocre

@joshmiller9783 Oh I agree, when I say better I'm talking about the literal resolution and graphical fidelity. Aesthetically speaking 3 and New Vegas are a lot more in line with the older games and fit the setting better imo. I don't think 4 looks super clean, per se, I think it's more that they focused on using such ridiculously bright colors for the base of the textures before adding whatever weathering or rust on top of it. Either way I agree it doesn't look great, though.

Yeah they really went backwards after fonv. "This player is frickin heckin unconscious"

I would argue that even the gameplay has its many faults.

"Let me kill everyone I encounter so I can then go online and complain how the story sucks." Dude what you're looking fir is a shooter not a rpg

@@DininDalael the RPG are Role play games. If I can only role play a good guy then it's just another story game.

@@Gengarextreme You can still roleplay a buy guy (well to some point) you just can't kill everyone. The point is, for a game to have a story, some NPC have to be unkillable

What sucks ever worse than that is you really aren't choosing anything at all, except 3 options to the exact same outcome and 1 persuade option if you're lucky. It's incredibly lazy and if the voiced protagonist was really the reason for that then wow what a dumb choice. They actually think we want to hear a guy's voice rather than have the fleshed out experience we've come to expect from Fallout.

@@TheMightyGoldenWest its just lazy writing. There's no reason why voice would affect the dialogue.

@@TheMightyGoldenWest The mass effect style dialogue options & the voiced PT honestly was a huge turn-off. It doesn't matter how I make my character, I'm stuck sounding like the same generic Boston white guy w/ a son to worry about. Part of the joy of all the other fallouts was getting to decide who your character was through actions you took in-game, and while that's still possible in FO4, you don't get to do it with the same freedom you had in FO3 & FONV. You are *ALWAYS* someone who lived pre-war, you're always someone who got married & had a kid, and you're always someone who got into a vault. Yes, the same is true for FO3, you are born as a vault dweller, and the same is true for FO1. But, you still have total freedom over who your character *IS*. You aren't born married to another character or with the voice of a wisened old man or a shrill youthful fiend, details that regularly ruin my immersion while playing FO4 as a specific kind of character. In FO4, it doesn't matter if I'm trying to play my character as a junkie. I will always sound like a perfectly average person from boston, with the same voice every playthrough unless I play a female character, even then I'm locked into the same problem but for the opposite sex. It's frustrating. I know how appealing voiced PTs are ordinarily but FO games have a history of a voiceless PT. For me at least, it serves to let me better roleplay in my roleplaying game.

It screws over modders trying to make quests and removes a ton of possible content sense it all has to be voiced

@@ahealthkit2745 100%, totally agree with all you said. It's a shame.

Gauntlet of Opinion has been thrown. does he acknowledge or take it as a challenge?

My only question is: how does one play Fallout 1 & 2? Nothing I have will run them.

​@@keithsavagelivesyou can run Fallout 1&2 on a toaster. GoG or Steam and any Mac/Windows computer that came out after 1995 can run it. You don't even need a graphics card. I've gotten it working on my phone before.

@@AmishArmyX I tried to play it on my Windows 7 machine, didn't even load. I will keep trying. Maybe my phone will do it! Thanks.

he didn't

I’ll try it out this weekend!

I'm still hoping they'll bring FO4 to PSVR2. That would make me happy forever.

@@huwguyver4208 I'm hoping they bring it to the ps2 eye toy and the sega game gear

Hey just a question I haven’t been able to find an answer to. If I install Fallout 4 VR is it possible to play any old the story mods that are available or is it strictly vanilla? Cause I was thinking of maybe doing an ultimate playthrough. Falloyt 4 VR with most good story mods and some tweak mods and going wild but I really don’t know if it’s possible

VR in Fallout/Skyrim VR are both just one more .esm file. Anything like story and quest mods will work perfectly fine in VR.@@angelos6827

With the modding comment, I touch on it a bit the various starfield digs throughout the video but acknowledging a games modding community as part of its value, especially 9 years after release isn’t a crazy thing imo. I reject the idea that it means the devs release a lower quality game and cross their fingers the community fixes it, look at starfield as a prime example. The base game was bad so there’s barely any modding community. Good modders don’t develop around bad base games! As always really appreciate comments like these!

@@KindofBradAtThis gg

A fellow vanilla NV player? How do you do?

You probably play a console version of New Vegas, it's a lot more stable. It's how I first played it too, but on PC the Viva New Vegas mod list is a must, otherwise alt-tabbing breaks the game and it being limited to 2GB of RAM causes crashes after playing for too long.

​@@KindofBradAtThis I loathe Starfield but your comment comparing the modding scenes is a bit premature considering Starfield hasn't yet got the creation kit.

Good ideas, bad executions. BUGthesda's development ideology 101. Plenty of potential was with F4, but they hired the wrong people to create such a world.

@@JADEK111 nah i wouldn't blame the team that worked on 4, its obviously the management's fault. map, shooting, some side quests, dungeon design, art in general are all pretty good.

@@Timsturbs It's almost always the management's fault, but year after a year giving a hand to such ideology, makes the devs no better than the managers/publishers/shareholders.

Kingdom come was to on rails to be a true rpg and the voice acting was always considered sub par what planet you from

To be fair it was because of the Institute which stopped building progress however I can understand but I love building so you get more out of it if you like rebuild however i do think there could have been a option were settlers build basic housing if you refuse to help them.

@jonathancunningham8739 I'mma be honest, that's not a good enough lore reason for me to personally handwave it away lol. It's the exact same thing they said about the Capital Wasteland in 3, they just swapped out the Vault 87 super mutants with Institute super mutants.

​@@ColinAYB For you, yes. Objectively, it's logical and good.

@king_isshiki It's just a repeated excuse to keep the wasteland in a state of arrested development because Bethesda doesn't know how to progress stories in sequels. If humanity actually shows some of the ingenuity and ability to progress that we've demonstrated for millenia then it's hard for them to write yet another fish out of water story about a vault dweller saving the wasteland a week after leaving the vault for the first time.

Not to mention that the first six months post release where a shit-show. I had my save deleted as I finished the game the first time because of a common glitch corrupting save files at the time. Settlements weren't even really operational for the first week, just toying with the system caused immeasurable lag and/or crashed your game.

Player's choices: Yes No (yes) Maybe later? (yes) Sarcasm (yes)

Yes Sarcastic No Yes (later) No (Yes)

100% agree with you. Their games have little to no meaningful decisions except for whichever main faction you choose.

For me the problem with F4 is this, . It's kinda like they dumbed down the series by limiting choices. Going to the stream of low quality bad writting games that are released year by year. But still this game is very enjoyable if you try to not care too much for this aspect.

My man bro was trippin the whole video

I’d definitely say replay the game and other fallout games cause aside from the originals, none of them give the level of freedom you’re describing outside the players imagination! The meme of fo4 being yes, no, yes(sarcastic) is true but the same is true for other fallout games. Almost EVERY interaction is yes, no, snarky remark, tell me your backstory, leave convo. The issue is fo4 having Nate/nora voices is it more easily pulls you out of that RP, but I’d argue even then going down various paths of the factions, giving your reasons for why you act the way you are to characters etc really does flesh out your character!

Definitely agree with the Skyrim to fallout RPG simplification line of thought though! Skyrim is awesome but it’s as wide as an ocean deep as a puddle

​@@KindofBradAtThisi feel like we played different games entirely. Fallout new vegas has so many dialogue options to express your character's background/skills and learn more about the character or the matter at hand. There are also a few ways to solve problems although that's just standard for rpgs. For example, if you want to, you can convince Chris Haversam that he's not a ghoul and that the ghouls have been tricking him. He can either help them or sabotage them out of pettiness. I think one of my favorite parts of the dialogue in new vegas is how, if you pass a barter check of 50 with Dean Domino, it will be impossible to not kill him/make peace. It's so incredibly fitting for such an egotistical character.

​@@KindofBradAtThisuh have you actually played new vegas?

The Factions are not poorly written.

I WAS JUST TALKING TO A FRIEND ABOUT THIS Ever since getting the black devil armor the guys that ambush you feel like guerrilla warriors

​​@@KindofBradAtThis I started a new game and just reached level 10 by the time I got to that power armor. The first place I teleported after heading to the Sanctuary Red Rocket station to repair the armor after being assulted by the Enclave with my best weapon being the double barrel shotgun. The first place I teleported to. I was like: Why am I on fire? I realized I was being assaulted by an Enclave Hellfire soldier with a Heavy Incinerator and 3 Enclave officers with plasma pistols. Keep in mind that I was only armed with a low-upgraded shotgun, the 10mm pistol, pipe guns, and a bladed tire iron and somehow killed them and survived. When I got to the Enclave Field Camp, I bombarded them with the piggy bank launcher. I am dreading those damn assault robots. Or those robots with a damn machine guns that can kill you in second outside power armor. To be fair, I did not know that the quest was for that late game power armor until I read notes mentioning it. I was thinking: It's been easy so far. I may as well finish it. 0_0

@@ajflink >New game >Level 10 >Already has Power Armor >Easily beats late game quest involving Enclave And this is why I dislike Fallout 4, the game makes you feel like a god way too early on, I know Bethesda games aren't supposed to be challenging, but in Fallout 4 it feels like the game holds your hand way too much in the early game, I mean they literally give you power armor and a minigun at the very start of the game ffs. In New Vegas you couldn't even leave Goodsprings from the north because you were almost guaranteed to get killed to Cazadores.

@@Yuyam12 Firstly, the minigun is a very useless weapon unless you have 1000s of bullets for it. Secondly, I never claimed this was easy. I died a lot trying to complete the quest and had a lot of fun doing it. You can still get one-shot while in the power armor. I mentioned the piggy bank launcher because I got one-shot by a piggy bank bomb at full health in Hellfire power armor. Thirdly, you get ambushed very easily if you blindly wander around. Plus, you use the grenade launcher that you get immediately upon starting the game on the "complete" version of New Vegas making the Cazadors a joke as you can cripple them and then kill them more easily.

@@ajflink The problem with handing player a minigun right at the start is its damage has to be low or else it will be overpowered. New Vegas handles the problem by just not handing you a minigun at the start, thus allowing it to be powerful in the late game. Same with power armor, that's why fusion cores drain so fast. As for the stuff New Vegas gives you off the start... *fair,* which is why I run Viva New Vegas extended, which doesn't give you those weapons off the start. A better implementation would've been a minor quest to find them, or maybe having an option to select a background that pertains to those items.

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The problem with the dialog system is far more Fundamental than just how it controls. The problem with the dialog is that over half of the dialog in the game is the protagist, so theres almost no depth to talking to everybody. Your options are Sarcastic (yes but also a joke) Yes No (yes) Maybe a question How is anybody okay with that in your rpg? Good luck being evil or doing a pacifist run

​@@brodieorr5393 It all makes sense when you realize the game is 8 years old and this is many kids' first RPG

@@sneedclavehere8918 yeah that's kind of the conclusion I've come to as well. The people who really like fallout 4 either aren't "hardcore rpg" fans or are new to the genre entirely Not to say that more simplistic rpgs are bad, it just sucks to see it from a franchise that was famous for being quite the opposite

People when some people play games to enjoy its gameplay and not its story 😢

​@@wongjunkit6205Noone is mad that there are games which value gameplay more than writing. People are mad that a series that had good writing and RPG elements have had both ripped out in the name of mass appeal and capital

I wish for Fallout 4: New Vegas to retain the same experience as the OG FNV. As long as BUGthesda won't do something again to prevent that...

I played both NV and fallout 4 and found 4 to be superior in just about every way. I personally love the voiced protagonist and the customization options + overall look/feel of fo4.

Ive always thought 4 had a much better physical world and lived up to boston irl. NV's world felt pretty hollow without the writing to back it up. But yea, a happy middleground between the two games would tick all the boxes. each is the other's opposite.

look brother i am in the FNV fans camp but calling the mojave "beautifully crafted" is just flat out wrong.

New Vegas is an action RPG. Fallout 4 just feels like an action game. No real RPG systems

Moreover, as per BUGthesda's usual twisted approach and misunderstanding of the Fallout lore, they break their own consistency when it comes to the weapons department, but I think they never intended to put more work on it. The vanilla weapons are lackluster, bland, boring, ugly...

too bad it’s impossible to change that. if only there was a massive and dedicated community of folks that work tirelessly to modify nearly every aspect of the game to fit just about any personal preference… oh well, one can dream.

@@zinkbomb353 you're obviously sarcastic but that's not the point when criticizing a game with its vanilla content.

@@JADEK111a 9 year old game that has had mod support for years… but ok.

@@zinkbomb353 You keep missing the point which went over your head.

“Wh-why is everyone naked”

Harold was a Mutant who identified as a Ghoul, that also became a Tree god that wants to die.

@@renaigh lol fr our boy been put through it

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Pissing shitting and quaking rn

​@@KindofBradAtThis12 hour video

SARCASM: Yeah I really like the dialogue options in previous games when you have sometimes ONE "option" and the exposition dialogue instead of being on the 🔼key is layed out but has as much dialogue. NO SARCASM: Really if you look at the FACTS Fallout 4 has the most dialogue lines out of all Fallout games PERIOD. Unlike what stupid memes are saying you DO have different options abd decisions in dialogue - literally directly outside of Concord there is a small quests that gives you the options - 1. Negotiate a truce between a drug dealer and a family 2. Rob the drug dealer and scare him off 3. Kill the drug dealer 4. Kill the family And in the dialogue you are introduced to what Jet is and to the addiction mechanic, who these people are, why they are argueing, what they are selling and Wolfgang reacts to you wearing or not wearing a Vault Jumpsuit or Power Armor. It's literally one of the first quests you can do and it already proves you wrong. And don't act as if it's the only one. If we look at quests like Diamond City Blues they have even more options for the player. But yeah if you only do radiant Minutemen quests you can get a false impression

@@funki4896 a lot of the convos with one option are very simple dialogues that don’t need more than one option in the older games. For more meaningful quests/side quests there’s a lot more freedom of choice for how you approach conversation. Oh, and having unique dialogue options for having certain skill checks which FO4 doesn’t have outside of speech.

@@SuperColtsrock11 why do so many fans think of the skill system as indesputably good? It is never even questioned. I think it's outdated and belongs to where it comes from Fallout 1 skills -> GURPS -> table top D&D. The skills weren't really removed in Fallout 4 - some of them were reworked into perks and hidden variables that are influenced by gear/a special stat like Sneak instead of being a visible unimmersive number is now a hidden variable governed by Agility, the perk, clothing, lighting, movement and aid items. In Fallout New Vegas you can have 1 Agility but 100 sneak while in Fallout 4 you need tons of additional items to master sneaking and at least a reasonable 3 Agility. Making lockpicking into a perk is genius as the percentages between 25 and 50 are basically meaningless anyway so why not make these into perk ranks? The skill checks are gone? That's horrible because now your build does not make some actions impossible. And at the same time: it's horrible how you as the player cannot do anything - that's completely contradictory but that's what New Vegas preachers say anyway. For example if you want to enter Kellogg's house Fallout 4 gives you *NINE* different possibilities: 1. Use the Lockpick perk and a bobby pin while Tumblers today and the 4th rank of the Lockpick perk can make it easier. If your Lockpick rank is not high enough you could still steal the key from the mayors safe or his secretary's desk. 2. Steal the key from the mayor or his secretary. 3. Hack the computer of the mayor to open his safe. The difficulty of hacking is tied to your Intelligence stat and Hacker perk plus to whether you have Valentine's perk. All of the above is also tied to sneaking. 4. Speech solutions - you can convince either the mayor or his secretary into giving you the key - you need to pass a speech challenge the difficulty of which is tied to your Charisma, the Black Widow/Lady Killer perk and the SCAV! magazine issue #1. 5. You can bribe them too requiring caps. 6. Bring Cait with you - she can lockpick the door. 7. Complete the first Automatron quest and build an automatron with a lockpick gadget - he can open any door for you. 8. Combat solution - kill the Mayor or his secratary in any way you can imagine and loot the key off their corpses. 9. Be prepared by progressing Mama Murphy's quest - she will help you find Kellogg's key which has fallen beneath his appartement. Really the only options they could have added is using force by breaking the door open or using explosives. And maybe you could hire a robber to get the key or pick the lock. Apart from that they really implemented anything imaginable. So the devs gave the player a ton of different options to solve a single stage of a quest without needing to have some weird numbers in brackets in dialogue or some weird numbers in the pipboy that don't mean anything - what do you think does a player rather understand? "Locksmith rank 2 - lets you pick expert locks" or "Locksmith [57]" what feels more immersive to you? I really don't see how New Vegas' skill system could have handled the situation better. Not to mention that your companions react to your decision unlike in FNV.

@@funki4896 I don’t have the time or energy to write a significant response to this so I’ll just say I’m glad you enjoy FO4. I liked it well enough my first playthrough but it’s too shallow for me to playthrough again. Have a good one

@@funki4896 Yes no huh? and sarcasm are not a lot more lmao. Old games had like 4-10 per line in the convo, 4 has 2-4 (i don't consider the same line in a different tone with no effect unique). 4 has more lines ONLY in that there is potentially more between different characters, which is obvious given the map is larger and the game has more characters. And, by the way, Quantity does not equal quality and does not excuse the shitty dialogue system

Good points. It seems they need better AI and motivation goals in how that impacts their actions, movements, and reactions, even for mundane things like making ammo, or getting food, or fighting back.

They have no depth, like at all. They don't hold a candle compared to NV factions.

Bro, im gonna stop comparing to New Vegas and switch to Morrowind, just compare the factions in that game to this shit, same studio guys, SAME STUDIO

-shows up -"the parodies of American ideologies are bad" -refuses to elaborate

also, none of them really represent any ideas beyond the thinnest surface to scratch at. the institute like science and... not much else. the brotherhood are racists and love tech... and not much else. the railroad help free synths... and not much else. and trying to list any of the beliefs of the minutemen is like trying to explain the unique flavor of stale white bread. really, no factions have a coherent ideology regarding how the wasteland should be run, and really only have an idea on how they operate internally at most. the fact that people still argue about the factions of FNV while people only ever acknowledge the factions of FO4 to meme on them says more than enough about their quality.

I forget about F3, but I know NV had the intense training perk to increase special stats, though your point still stands because you get perks less often, and usually it's more worth it to take an actual perk. The main problem with FO4's protagonist is that there is a backstory, but then it doesn't affect the rest of the game. Essentially the opening gave you an interesting character, but then most of the game plays as if you have a blank slate. For example, imagine if Nate could've taught the Minutemen pre-war military tactics, or if Nora could've run for Diamond City Mayor. Also the world itself isn't all that immersive, after 210 years you'd expect more advanced civilizations

@@zhop951Yeah Fallout 2 (not sure about F1) has a perk to increase special stats, but with how slow you level up and considering you only get a perk every 3 levels, there are much better perks to choose from, making it not an easy decision unlike F4 which gives you a perk every level.

Read Dead Redemption is *objectively* a role playing game... You can be pedantic all you want, but at least don't make a clown out of yourself immediately. The lack of role playing depth does not mean it isn't one. Fallout 4 also has a shitload of choices you can make. Just because it gates a few doesn't mean it's devoid of them entirely.

@@ThefamousMrcroissant I believe your being pedantic. What about RDR makes it objectively an RPG? You're playing a predefined character John Marston with no choice making and only 1 ending. Where are the role playing elements in that?

@@ThefamousMrcroissant The definition of an RPG is a very fuzzy thing, personally I won't consider something an RPG if the gameplay is the same every run. Building a character is a core part of an RPG for me. Also FO4's choices often don't feel consequential, in 3/4 of endings you nuke the Institute, the 4 dialogue options usually boil down to "Yes" "Yes (Sarcastically)" "Question" or "No (Yes)" and you can't sequence break or kill important NPCs like NV allows and even prepared for.

Truest take in the whole smouldering comments section.

The gunplay was made by Id Software, at Bethesda request for help.

@@CZOM027 Yup. It doesn't change that the action is better in FO4, for sure though. And Bethesda could've easily released remastered FONV & FO3 by now if they really wanted to, they just have their studio busy pumping out the next borderline AI-generated open world game in their pipeline.

@@ahealthkit2745 The action, debatable, the npcs are braindead. The remaster isn't even in their hands for NV.

Well for that to happen fans will have to agree on what is best out of every game. And some fans would have to admit that Bethesda’s Fallout does indeed have some redeeming qualities.

It’s not an obsidian game

Yes, honestly. That's my biggest problem with the game. Other than the fact that they got rid of almost all of the player choice (probably also because Emil can't manage it) The institute is the most nonsensical convoluted faction I've seen in a long time, and the brotherhood's opinion on them makes no sense either Memorable moments does not make a good story. Bethesda is great at making memorable moments, but really bad at writing coherent stories

leave Emil alone you obsessive little creep.

@@renaigh No, Emil is one of the most incompetent hacks in the gaming industry and i like shitting on his work because that's all its good for. Cry about it you little shill.

@@brodieorr5393 Emil should've sticked to writing side quests like he used to, and let other writers or more specifically the writer of Far Harbor handle the main story.

It's like he's a writer specifically for COD action set-pieces, he wants a scene to have certain things regardless of whether it makes sense or negative consequences, like giving the player Power Armor and a Minigun at the start of the game and nerfed the minigun to balance it around that specific sequence.

Then that same principle should apply to fallout 3 and New Vegas as well. Fallout New Vegas is incredibly buggy. It crashes all the time. There’s the notorious Doc Mitchel head spin glitch which he showed for half a second in the video. I had three playthroughs end because of save corruption. All of this is fixed by patches made by modders. Clearly not an A+ product out of the box

@@tjbrody The counter argument being that Obsidian did try to make major fixes after release, and had barely 18 months to staple the product together in the first place, whilst Bethesda had literally years and still produced jank to a similar degree. The fact Obsidian managed to get manual reloading in New Vegas, and Bethesda couldn't even bother to try and add it to Fallout 4 says a lot on its own.

@@DisorderedFleshAutomata-sm8cd vanilla New Vegas still crashes to this day, and they never fixed the head spinning. You’re acting like Obsidian patched out all the bugs but Bethesda didn’t, which didn’t happen.

Thank you. Finally someone who says the same as me and mentioning the biggest downside of modding BUGthedsa games. People are forgetting that, despite the existence of official modding tools that extends the longevity of these games, none of them are an excuse for the fact BUGthesda are repeating the same formula of creating a lackluster base game that has not too much to offer with its vanilla content, let alone the lack of plenty of QoL features.

@@tjbrody Uh, no, that's not what he said. BUGthesda put Obsidian in rather harsh time constraints, that had them rush the game out of the oven before it was well cooked. No dev company is perfect, but Obsidian was way more faithful to the game.

also i hate essential npcs and that could basically be fallout 4’s second name

Cause I (clearly unfairly) assumed we all operated with the same definition of RPG. “A role-playing game (sometimes spelled roleplaying game,[1][2] or abbreviated as RPG) is a game in which players assume the roles of characters in a fictional setting. Players take responsibility for acting out these roles within a narrative, either through literal acting or through a process of structured decision-making regarding character development.”

@@KindofBradAtThis no worries i like seeing different takes and im never gonna trash someone for liking a game. i think rpgs are one of those genres where it’s like a slider and it’s all opinion, on one end pure dnd (without prepurchased campaign) and the other jrpgs with linear stories and everything gets messy bc it’s entirely subjective where on that line you prefer. i personally prefer more DND type stuff bc im a huge nerd lmao, but i instantly subscribed bc your editing and commentary were still great and i like people enjoying things, have a good one man! sorry people are going so hard on you

⁠@@KindofBradAtThisI find the distinction between playing a role, and developing a role through choices to be an integral distinction. A role playing game is always going to lean on one side of that spectrum or the other. Where fallout 4 fails is that it tries to be both without fully committed to either. Fallout nv is clearly about you playing the role of the courier who needs to find the platinum chip and decide the fate of new Vegas, but it never tells you how the story is supposed to go. You have no moral obligation to find the chip or hunt down Benny or do anything related to the opening cutscene. You’re a true blank slate and so it’s pretty effortless to play the role of the courier as yourself. It’s so obvious that the just shoot you in the head and give you amnesia to start the game. They want the protagonist to be you, not the other way around. The role you play is that of someone who wasn’t meant to have the power to change the world exploring the wasteland as well as themselves by examining how their choices impact the wasteland. Fallout 4 doesn’t allow for very much of that at all. In fallout 4 you’re made to play a role that is very much distinct from you as a player. You’re immediately given a moral obligation to complete the main quest line and a backstory as a patriot and soldier. From there, your exploration tends to amount to you being a murdering psychopath farting around for a while and stumbling into silly sci fi tropes. Fallout 4 is still a role playing game, but as it goes on it’s very clear that you are playing a role that is not dynamic. You’re not encouraged or even allowed to change as a character throughout the course of a play through. Liking fallout 4’s story really relies on you enjoying the Bethesda gameplay loop and being happy to ignore the plot while you’re having fun shooting stuff. fallout 4 simply doesn’t offer the depth that new Vegas does with its writing. It will occasionally throw a trolley problem at you but your choices either won’t have very significant consequences or won’t align with what you as a person would like to do. It feels cheap, and it makes you feel like you’re choices are meaningless. Fallout 4 is just as much of a role playing game as fallout new Vegas, they are both firm denizens of that genre. That doesn’t mean fallout 4 even comes close to new Vegas as a piece of interactive storytelling. Where fallout 4 gives you power armor and weapons and cosmetics that you want to use, new Vegas provides a world that you want to engage with on a deeper level. I’ve never been a big reader, if something doesn’t hold my interest well enough I’m very good at getting distracted. In my experience with Bethesda games, I have never finished a book or data log entry by virtue of getting bored too quick. New Vegas had me reading like I was in grade school and they were offering free slices of pizza for finishing a book. I wanted to read just for the satisfaction of learning something about the world and know how it reinforces the main themes of the game. I’m clearly biased as fuck, but I have plenty of reasons to never play fallout 4 again whereas I never need an excuse to go back to new Vegas. Damn, maybe I should go make an 8 hour response to this video. Or a diss track, we shall see.

​@@4dbagel945 I completely agree with what you say, but you know damn well he ain't gonna read that 😂

At least no one’s complaining about Wayne Gretzky Hockey being there

@@KindofBradAtThis ignore people like this its better for your mental health. their like actually insane.

​@@amymorgan886 How did you reply so fast? I just left the comment, I can understand video author replying fast due to yt notifications but you are an anomaly. Anyway, don't see how complaining about something makes you insane. I'm mostly in the minority in a sense that most F1,2,NV enjoyers gave up trying to talk with Bethesda fanboys, I was just leaving a comment in frustration for fun, you know, it sometimes helps to vent off like that 😅.

​@@KindofBradAtThis Who? Good on you for being chill about my comment but I don't get your comment

@@danielsurvivor1372 im a fast typer, apologies I just dislike it when fallout fans get pissy at other fallout fans for liking different things . im a fallout 1 fan personally i dont think any game in the series matches it but thats just my opinion much like how the person who made this video enjoys fo4. games are subjective and tbh genres themselfs are subjective. i had a lovely conversation with my game design professor on the definition of genres, what is and what isn't X. metroidvainas for instance, or immersive sims. do you consider the witcher a rpg? what about the legend of zelda? both are commonly viewed as rpgs but lack elements many consider very important. is stalker a rpg? what about a game like hexen 2? that game blurs the lines between many different genres. It's all subjective to your personal tastes. I must apologize for my grammer and spelling I suffer from dyslexia and sometimes its hard to read or type

It’s ass

Exactly they gave us lets say characters with an iteresting prenstablished backstory. Male ex-soldier and Female Lawyer, give them perks based on their previous profession! I have a theory that the quest of the U.S.S. Constitution was either one of the first or last quest to be designed. You get an ability check to fix some wires and you get a different introduction if you're playing either male or female

Like how cool would it have been if while playing Nick's quest as Nora, you could say something like "Yeah i studied that case for a long time" and you would get a different path to follow that quest. THAT's the route they should have picked when they chose to give our characters a pre-built story

​@@giuseppesagona7522 Yeah it also would have been nice to get more of Nate/Nora's thoughts on things more often. Like you'd think they'd be pretty sad about the end of the world, but after the initial shock they don't seem too choked up about it. If you're gonna have a voiced protagonist you might as well use them to do more than just read what the dialogue wheel says.

Exactly

I can agree the story is underwritten and if things were more properly fleshed out and explained, extended out the main story for all the factions to flesh them all out more, would've been a huge improvement, but definitely wouldn't have saved it. I don't like this argument people have about 1 and 2 being silly and wacky too, most of those silly moments were saved to random encounters while traversing the map, which worked far different than traversing the map in bethesda era games. They worked in 1 and 2 because you come by it go "huh that's weird/funny/cool" and move on back to the map. In bethesda era these goofy adn wacky things generally stick around for you to interact with, cementing them in the world. It is kind of like in dying light, the mario level area, its a funny little thing you can do and find, and then you move on and don't run into it again. Yes, I'm glad we can all agree the dialogue system is garbage, and having a voiced protagonist as being a downgrade. However, I will disagree for giving bethesda points for experimenting, if you purchase a burger and they give you a ham sandwich, you don't look for the goods of eating a ham sandwich. Also, I'm sorry this was your first experience with fallout, you deserved better.

@@darkflmmstr Are you kidding me? Fallout 1's main story has a sinister post-apocalyptic cult staffed with superpowered psychic minions and led by a hideous mutant abomination that looks like something HR Giger would have drawn if he worked for EC in the 1950's. Can't get much more comic book than that. Even the basic plot of the game is like something out of a comic book. Plucky hero ventures into the unknown and saves the world from mutants. Yawn. And Fallout 2 pushes it even further. You can become a porn star, recruit talking Deathclaws into your party and even break the fourth wall completely and go back in time and alter the events of the first game. Not to mention the fact that post-war society has apparently regressed to so far that portions of the population have literally reverted to unga-bunga tribal people who act like they can barely wipe their own asses properly and may or may not have magical powers. The series had a goofy and comic book-influenced aesthetic from the very beginning and balanced out the horrors of the apocalypse with heavy doses of humor and grotesque irony. It wasn't until New Vegas got popular that every failed Poli-Sci dropout on the internet started treating the series like it was the second coming of War and Peace and making long rambling video essays analyzing every single facet of it in the most anally retentive fashion imaginable. And New Vegas is the only game in the series that made a conscious attempt to tone down the goofiness a bit and restrict it to the Wild Wasteland perk, making it optional for the player. Everyone acts like Fallout 1 and 2 were super serious and grim dark but they really weren't. "Yes, I'm glad we can all agree the dialogue system is garbage, and having a voiced protagonist as being a downgrade" Don't put words in my mouth. I never said it was garbage and even though it is a downgrade I still enjoy it. And judging from how many videos there are on KZfaq showing off the numerous sarcastic responses the player can give, many others do as well. "However, I will disagree for giving bethesda points for experimenting, if you purchase a burger and they give you a ham sandwich, you don't look for the goods of eating a ham sandwich." The series stopped being a burger and became a ham sandwich as soon as Bethesda acquired the rights. Sorry you wanted New Vegas Part 2 and didn't get it. Next time temper those expectations and learn to understand how corporatism and big business works. "Also, I'm sorry this was your first experience with fallout, you deserved better." Wow, I've definitely never heard that one before. How original. Don't feel sorry for me though, I've played all the mainline Fallout titles and enjoyed them immensely while you'll be stuck whining about how that big meanie Todd ruined the series and lamenting the fact that Van Buren never came out for the rest of your life. Enjoy your bitterness and say hi to the troglodytes at NMA for me.

@@silversnail1413 I think we're talking about different things then, I'm talking about hos bethesda has put aliens as a certified thing in the world thanks to mothership zeta, whereas prior something like coming across the Tardis was something that quickly happened and went. If we're gonna talk about how real something like psychics and mutants are in something that is fantasy then there isn't much media that would be considered realistic unless you're going for war simulators. That kind of story is a bore now, because we've had almost 30 years of content, but that wasn't the case then, wasn't very many video games with a storyline like that, you can't judge its story as being overdone from era where there wasn't nearly as much of it and video games weren't played nearly as much. You're naming a bunch of side things, that is my point, the goofy stuff used to be the side thing, not mixed into the main stuff. You don't have to interact with the porn star stuff, you don't have to go and recruit the talking death claws, you don't have to go back in time (that is one of those encounters I'm talking about a "oh that's neat" type of thing). New Vegas came out during the heyday of the internet, that is why there are so many people that have talked about it, that was the era that the internet was becoming more popular and mainstream and more easily accessible to people, so of course people would be analyzing it, it was also the beginning of the rise of youtube so you were getting lots of different videos with more people finding the platform. Something to think about is matpat put up his first video only 6 months after new vegas released it was the beginning of the golden age on youtube when all of the greats were getting their starts or already climbing, again it isn't something you can judge by the today where obviously after 15 years many MANY people have played it adn talked about it and making a youtube channel is just the thing to do. All forms of art have looked at with a close lens, analyzing the smallest of details, there are such things as good and bad stories, there is good and bad gameplay, god and bad graphics, etc etc. There are objectives in these things it isn't all subjective, you can have opinion on the matter, but there are facts to it like FNV and FO3 having bad gameplay for their time, this is pretty objective even compared to other games around their time, their gameplay and controls are outdated and pretty bad. Looking at story we can use FO4 with kid in a fridge and the ghoul settlement, so do ghouls need food and water to survive? FO4 says yes to both, they both do and don't need food and water to survive, since the ghoul settlers need food and water and were growing food for themselves, and the kid hasn't left the fridge on 200 years, it is bad writing objectively. The new dialogue system is garbage it takes away more decision in place of vague words always being "yes", "yes, but no", "no", and "sarcastic yes", instead of having dialogue options where you might have almost 7 lines to choose from and being able to accurately see what you're going to say so you can actually roleplay your character in the most accurate way possible with limited dialogue selections. On top of the voice protagonist taking away an agency in imaging how your character would sound (you know part of roleplaying). It is fine if you enjoy it, no says you can't, but it is a clear downgrade and is rather bad. You could still have the sarcastic option with old dialogue system but not vice versa, this dialogue system id restricting and I hope they do away with it in the next fallout. That is a rather defeatist mindset, you'd rather be happy consuming slop than criticizing and pointing out flaws for them to try and improve on? If enough people were to talk about these concerns instead of just accepting it for what it is and being okay consuming product only to wait for next product, you could see be better writing, you could get less buggy games on release, you could have a more robust roleplaying system in the game instead of the bare minimum that is another downgrade. The removal of skills and level locking perks that allow you to open locks and hack computers just level locks the whole game, coming across a master lock at level 5, I know I won't be able to pick that lock for a long time so why would I remember to come back to it? Also you want to talk about putting words in people's mouth "Sorry you wanted New Vegas Part 2 and didn't get it." No where did I say I wanted Bethesda to make a FNV2, so don't be a hypocrite. On the note of "corporatism and bug business" we have a recent example of what happens when people band together against a big business and corporation with helldivers, Sony backtracked their PSN account requirement, so it isn't as if we don't have a precedent now, we have something to look at and say it is possible to get change for the better. I don't understand why you're so hostile, no where in my previous reply was I rude in form, but you've decided to be for some inexplicit reason. Fallout 4 from a story perspective is imo the worst int he series so far, and the consistency with the lore is not very good (circle back to kid in a fridge). I don't think Todd ruined the series, I think Emil ruined the series but he didn't just ruin fallout he also ruined the elder scrolls and his terrible writing made starfield far worse than it needed to be. I don't understand why you think I'm bitter for being able to criticize something that I enjoy and want to succeed. I've pointed out flaws that I would like to and many other people would like to see done better. If you believe that to be being bitter than you're naive, intellectually lazy, and a mindless consumer.

Man those NV diehard fans are insufferable. They are reddit personified by making it their entire personality and deemed themselves superior just because they play a game with "good writing" for "real gamers".

It has an amazing story, much better than the main story, but the building of HQ is a deal breaker. Unnecessarily complicated which means I can't be bothered progressing the story.

@@UteChewb idk I've found much more immersive and seamless than the vanilla settlement management/building. What about it wasn't to your liking??

@@jackDaddy23 the whole HQ build at the GNN building. I thought it was just me, so I went on the Sim Settlements 2 forum and I'm not the only one. The whole point of the mod is to make settlements easier and more interesting, and up until HQ it did that brilliantly, and the story was amazing. Then at HQ you have a complex list of things you have to do and a minimal UI. It just didn't work for me, it became tedious and frustrating, the reverse of a game. Because I couldn't do the HQ I couldn't conclude chapter 2 and progress to 3.

@@UteChewb oh snap that's my next quest, uh oh...

@@jackDaddy23 maybe there is something that I just didn't understand. You may fare better. 🤞

Absolutely NPC comment lmao

Bros a Redditor in scholarly clothes

@@frostedbutts4340 if you want real human response it's this: gamers are fucking stupid

@@KindofBradAtThis How does Windex taste?

@@KindofBradAtThis He's not wrong though, if games are produced for profit, the incentive to make sub-par games to save on costs is there. The logical solution is to have certain industry standards for games.

The game kinda throws power cores at you though, I’m level 14 rn and I got like 10-15 cores at any given time

@@KindofBradAtThis I've got about 4 💀💀💀

@@FatalityPWN get exploring!!

Make 4 water purifiers and say goodbye to power core problems. I'm at 40 now with 68 cores in reserve, and using power armor since the beginning of this playthrough.

@@tfdrago I'm still semi early after playing since playing it at launch all those years ago. I still think the next game should just change the fusion core system entirely.

Also I don't know a single person that praises New Vegas as the pinnacle of RPGs and ALSO Skyrim alongside it. They're both SUPER different types of RPGs and usually the two player bases aren't super compatible.

RPG purists when a game company innovates and experiments differently 😢

​@@wongjunkit6205i don't think straight up bad writing is "Experimenting"

@@Biojack222 People when they strawman an argument to seem superior 😢

@@wongjunkit6205 I mean, you gotta admit the story has holes, the institute being the biggest. It ain't a straw man when the majority of people agree the institute were undercooked

"New Vegas lets you give drugs to kids" pal, have you ever really played Fallout 4? And I specifically mean the Silver Shroud quest...

In Fallout 4 you can guess a password too. Just go to the library.

Being a traumatized fish out of water who has lost his old life also gives you plenty of room for a personality shift. You can become le sarcastic cynical jerk, the raider murder hobo, the vengefull crimefighter, a farmer, a soldier, a spy etc.

@@funki4896silver shroud is a bit of a cherry pick when talking about the quality of the roleplay, and even then, that’s a set and singular experience that provides you the option to roleplay a specific character in that specific instance. You can’t really be a vengeful crime fighter outside of that quest line. Say there’s a perk that does more damage to enemies that have murdered for fun or gives dialogue options based on that perk that affect quest progress and gameplay, that would make my roleayed character of a vengeful crime fighter feel great, and that’s the point I was trying to bring up. It was just hard to give an example so late at night for me. Here, let me give you a good analogy to Fallout 4 that makes more sense. Hacking in Fallout 4 is something you need to invest intelligence and perk points in, and affects your whole playthrough. If you want to roleplay as a hacker, you’ve got the tools to do it. If you don’t, you invest in, let’s say, lockpicking instead and roleplay as a thief. Your skills affect the way you play and the character you have in mind feels more real. Now imagine the game with a lot more options sprinkled throughout it, and that’s New Vegas. If I build my character to be a hacker nerd, I can bypass a lot of different things I would expect a hacker nerd to be able to do. If I want to pretend to be an engineer, I can repair equipment and machinery instead of needing to look for someone else to do it. If I want to be evil for whatever reason the game enables those decisions when interacting with the world. Fallout 4 lacks that.

@@LazerDisk you can't be a vengefull crimefighter outside the Silver Shroud quest??? Really??? What about Diamond City Blues??? What about Nick's companion quest??? What about the literal main quest??? What about all the Minutemen quests??? What about Nuka World??? What about Dima??? What about the Robobrain Vault??? What about Covenant??? You can roleplay as whoever you want in Fallout 4. Your build decides whether you can be a smart scientist, a diplomatic trader, a lucky gunslinger, a ninja infiltrator or a brutal brawler. There is even a perk called Ghoulish which makes you start tonturn into a ghoul and can make some ferals friendly. Ofcourse just like in previous titles you can become a Cannibal which gives you new interactions - friendly ones included with Strong and trappers. You can be whoever you want to be. It's an RPG. Not a looter shooter. I don't even know if it's possible to pkay through this game on Survival Mode as a looter shooter because you hit the wall quickly as you run into Super Mutants only having a 10mm pistol. On easy difficulty the other Fallout games are easy too. You can mindlessly run, gun, loot and skip through dialogue in Fallout New Vegas too but it doesn't mean that the game is not an RPG. You decide whether you want to play on easy difficulty and not immerse yourself or not. RPG mechanics are everywhere in Fallout 4. They are just different from Fallout New Vegas. Just because sneaking is a perk now doesn't mean it's gone. And most of the skill checks in Fallout New Vegas are insignificant anyway - people talk about them having "real consequences unlike in Fallout 4" but what are the consequences??? That you get a little bit of Dynamite from Easy Pete - are these the "grand" consequences??? And what about Lanius??? You just use speech checks just like in important situations in Fallout 4. Have your Speech at 100 in FNV or your Charisma at 11 in FO4 and you can pass any speech check - so what's the difference??? How is New Vegas better in that regard when in FNV Charisma is a useless dumpstat that is not required for a high speech skil???

It's just a lure to get you to explore more of the Wasteland and get led astray. Being led astray is the whole point of the game.

​@@UteChewbThat's the point of Bethesda games. Bethesda games require constant distraction so you don't have any downtime. Any time to think about **why** you're doing the things you're doing, and evaluate any amount of meaning in the game. They remove downtime so you don't have time to realize how shallow the game really is

On the matter of Fallout 76 there are some pros and cons, some concerns of lore, and room for major improvements, but it can quite interesting. Also, true multiplayer is a great experience. However, in a review for Fallout 76 it may take a very long time for you to get a sense of many storylines and subtle aspects, and to cope with some jarring issues that impact some aspects of immersion. It (Fallout 76) has many moving pieces, and options, such as whether to play with Fallout 1st or without, which can create a largely different experience and set of struggles in the game. The developers of the Fallout 76 and of the Fallout Videos (2024 - Amazon Prime) should review both fans' suggestions, comments and also your video about insights for overall focus and improvements. By listening to critics and fans, the developers (in theory) can get a better focus on what can continue to help in the quality, plausible lore, entertainment and immersion.

💀you think I’d be taking 2 months an upload if devs were paying me

Damn this man does it for free lmao

@@KindofBradAtThis well your video must be a resume to go work for their PR team then :D

At least he gets views

@@TigburtJones I mean yeah that's what ragebait is meant to do

Only kids look for pure rpg. If I wanted that, I could just read a book. This is a game, it needs to "play" not write.

Oh it's not criticism it's basically fans of the other entries saying how shit the game is all the damn time and telling how better the games they play and literally ignoring criticism from their games new Vegas fans are just obnoxious assholes who don't know when to shut up.

“A role-playing game (sometimes spelled roleplaying game,[1][2] or abbreviated as RPG) is a game in which players assume the roles of characters in a fictional setting. Players take responsibility for acting out these roles within a narrative, either through literal acting or through a process of structured decision-making regarding character development.”

​@@king_isshiki Fr fr ong my nigga what's this nerd shit

​@@king_isshiki Anime pfp mfers always having the stupidest opinions

And this isn’t an opinion 💅🏽

I respectfully disagree, but to each their own. For me personally, NV’s bugginess, pretentious edgelord nihilism, and awful fanbase of diehard zealots have kinda soured me on the game over time. It’s a fantastic game, tho (the conversation between Veronica & Elder McNamara makes me cry every time I replay and get to that quest),

@@franzsanders9573 zealot here, but you can kill everyone in NV :(

@@Ro6ns So? That doesn’t necessarily make the game better than 4?

@@franzsanders9573 that was bait homie I could type up 500 words on why NV far exceeds 4 despite 4’s superiority in combat

Hard agree, what’s even weird is they aren’t completely absent there’s just like maybe 4-5 of them in the base game

Actually, the game _does_ have skill checks (i.e., if you have a high enough Intelligence, the Charisma check for convincing Dr. Madison Li to re-join the Brotherhood is made significantly easier), it's just that virtually all of them are invisible and hidden in the game's code. And no, I don't know why they did that either.

Ya boi hates survival games so I wasn’t gonna speak on the mode I didn’t played

@@KindofBradAtThis muh legendary weapons

People when other people have differing opinions and not everything in life is black and white 😢

It’s better they pick this up than it’s inbred cousin 76

It’s the most critically acclaimed game of the series 💀

@@KindofBradAtThis Ok? You haven't given a single good reason to why that makes it the best in the series. It's a terrible rpg and it's horribly written. It appealing to normies doesn't mean shit.

@@KindofBradAtThis Critically acclaimed by people that are arguably shortsighted and don't really have any knowledge about video games.

@@JADEK111 it funny you just describe NV fan

@@kholispo6800 What?

Anytime

JUST LET PEOPLE HECKIN ENJOY THINGS!!- brad the redditor

@@sixmillionisimpossible thanks for the gold kind stranger

And what if you can't necessarily enjoy something that has its core created in a broken way?

@@KindofBradAtThis I don't think anyone choses to not enjoy something?

1. The first part of this comment is beautiful and overall the magic of fallout and gaming as a whole! Glad these games were so impactful for you 2. I get it and that comes with storytelling, preference is subjective! For the synth confusion, gen 3 synths are completely organic minus the synth component, that’s the whole dilemma! A lot of the issue with critique of fo4 is the conversation for people isn’t based off of a fresh memory of the game and that’s a big premise of this video! Definitely give it a replay if you can!

I mean, i get the comment on new vegas but... Justifying legion which is cartoonishly evil but belieavable enough in universe

@@kogamustard7717 yea like the legion are mustache twirling bad guys and the NCR are literally Boy Scouts

@@KindofBradAtThis Boy Scouts that kill women, children and the elderly...

@@kogamustard7717 I mean you can make an argument for them , i wouldn't consider it a particularly great one but it is a legitimate option .

That doesn't prove anything. You can have millions of hours in a single game and that won't change the reality of the core problems said game still bares after many years.

@@JADEK111 Prove? It proves I like the game, which is what I was going for... I mod TF out of this game, this game started my passion for 3D modeling (because I wanted it to look better). It does what I need it to do. Also, I modded out those core problems, they do not exist in my game.

​@@robertkolb2288 And yet, irrelevant. My point was that, while using mods obviously makes the experience different and better (to some extant), after the 20+ years that BUGthesda exists, the people there never learned from their mistakes through one title after another. You're making your personal experience better by installing mods that do the very same job that the devs declined to do. The latest "next gen" update proved that they are still incapable of that. Why do you need a mod that fixes over 1000 bugs? It's very sad. So, like I said, you can reach 10k hours, and you can still have fun. That won't change the reality of the twisted development philosophy BUGthesda never moved on from, and the shortsighted ethical approach to marketing their games as a whole. I personally have almost 800 hours in Fallout 4, and though I also play only with mods (because vanilla just sucks), I can have my fun, but I won't change my negative perspective towards a game company that does fuck all to actually make their games work without relying on modders to do that.

@@JADEK111 I'm not in disagreement with you at all about Bethesda, I can't stand a lot of things they do, and yeah, its fucked that modders have to fix the games, but the fact that we CAN fix the games is part of why I like them. There are very few companies who make their games in a way that the community can so easily access and alter. I have tried to mod many different games from other developers and the amount of Nasa level tech that requires like 5 years to learn for each game is ridiculous. I wanted to mod Horizon Zero Dawn because Aloy is butt ugly, but accessing the files to even get the model to Blender was a fucking nightmare, let alone putting the new model back in the game. I create things, I am an artist in so many fields, but I'm hardly a programmer, Code is not my strong suit. The Creation Engine gives me an entry level to something I am passionate about. So, when I say I only have 4500 hours in this game and I need more time to see If its good, "I am making it good". I need more time to develop my skills, I need more time to see my projects come to fruition. The fact that throughout that 4500 hours I have enjoyed my journey IS relevant.

It is what it is when it comes to the current generation of gaming. I also agree that being told to what is good and what is bad is the worse possible approach, doesn't matter if it's regarded to video games or other products, as it is one of the many reasons that create these divisions to begin with. I played all the games in the series and I have criticism to all of them, but to none I pledged to defened like many do nowadays, which is childish. In the case of Fallout 4, it's just not really a Fallout game, imo.

Lil bro got offended by the ONE guy who likes Bethesda 😂

@@mattc7420 I mean the guy just comes off as obnoxious and very matter of fact, when you are trying to tell the majority of fallout players that THEY are the ones that are wrong about how good the game is it's best not come off like he knows better than the people that played and don't like the game.

I don’t think you’ve played many looter shooters

@@KindofBradAtThis No fallout 4 is a looter shooter, I've played many looter shooters and Fallout fits the description entirely. The whole gameplay loop is as follows: Kill, loot, return to base and build shacks.

@@KindofBradAtThis And I don't think you've played any real RPG when you say Fallout 4 is a great RPG, but you don't see me shutting constructive criticism off like that. It's not even about the Fallout series: you can enjoy the game all you want for what it is, but it's not a good RPG, in no way shape or form.

@@KindofBradAtThis It's very much is a looter-shooter. Fallout meant to be a survival RPG. Even if you play on "Survival" mode, it's still not the same because it lacks in a lot. That's why Fallout 4 is very controversial on that matter, as it appeals more to the shooter gamers than the survival ones. Is that a bad thing? Not necessarily, because eventually it does the job for a specific group of people, but it contradicts the purpose of the original idea of the series.

@@JADEK111 Exactly, it's good for what it is, but it's not what the CRPG fans want. That's why the Fallout community is so divise, the games are so different they attract very different players with very different tastes. I for one prefer isometric RPGs like Pillars of Eternity and Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous, real RPGs: New Vegas is way closer to that genre with its immersive sim-like quest design and roleplay elements, which is why I prefer it over 3 and 4. Is 4 a bad game? No! of course it's not, I've enjoyed playing it from time to time myself (obviously not as much as the rest of the series and only with a huge number of mods to make it good, but I digress)! Is it a good RPG though or does it have a good story? Not in a million years, no.

I would ask the same in regards to Fallout 4, as to why there are so many overly obsessed people about it. If you ignore the obsessed people, there are more than enough reasons why one can dislike or entirely hate F4, the same as any other Fallout game. Hell, the same as any other game in general, for that matter

👆🏻👆🏻 bread man gets it

Do.. do you know what nuanced means? Because a story about finding your son can be nuanced. Why are you acting like finding your son is inherently not nuanced?

i get it new fallout fans are experiencing fallout 4 for the first time but fallout 4 story is whack the gameplay is fun however but lets not act that a golden dung isnt still a piece of dung

@@dacheeeseman You didn’t answer my question. You just spouted a bunch of common buzzword phrases. So I’m guessing you don’t know what nuanced means.

Thank you for sharing this, that perspective so interesting to hear, it reminds me of people who live in LA finding it easier to travel in GTA V! Sorry to hear you die after the bombs drop though, that sucks

If it’s not a 5 hour response, it’s not good enough for me

God I hate that guy

That dude is such an insufferable bum. Nobody wants somebody else’s miserable opinion shoved down their throats. SMH

odd how creetosis somehow KNEW that the show would suck, guess all those good reviews were bot reviews created by todd howard just like the bad reviews for new vegas

@@phoenixcoursey6711 you should bumb up that intelligence stat my friend bc seems like yours is at -1

Just look at the pip-boy. There's a quest tab that tells you what to do.

Mind you that, being an open world game, it also depends on what you mean by "first mission", because the literal first quest is the one where you start the game in the pre-war period. Are you referring to something else? Otherwise, it all depends on where you currently at in the game.

@@JADEK111 I’m learning that I need to level up a lot hahah

i mean mechanical yeah they did age worse.

wah boo hoo

@@justinalmao5770 lmao 21 pilots fan^

@@brydeelz6599 oh no u got me

Absolutely based, Brad forever butthurt.

@@sixmillionisimpossible The best part is Bradley gave a heart to "wah boo hoo". Monosyllabic responses resonate with some people, the sort of people who think Fallout 4 is good.