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Not mentioning that the aliens in Fallout 1 have a photo of Elvis with them is criminal

One of my favorite random encounter in fallout 2 is when you find the portal that takes you to vault 13 before the events of fallout 1 and you cause the water chip to break, before coming back to the “present” time.

Haha. Fallout 1&2 were not serious at all. They had all sorts of humor.

I assumed the giant dino footprint was just a reference to Godzilla 1998, when the main character stands inside a giant, three-toed footprint.

Some people dont understand the humor of FO1 and FO2. Old games were not super serious. Bethesda humor is more in your face and its usually not required to know the reference , while the old games were either wacky or if you didnt know the reference you wouldn’t understand that it was a joke. I like most fallout games but prefer the wacky, also subtle jokes/reference/easter eggs from FO1, FO2 and FNV.

Seymour was Rick Moranis's character. The plant was Audrey 2

13:25 if i remember correctly, tim cain himself did not like the idea of humanizing deathclaws, he wanted them to be the scariest thing youll ever witness so to say. These decisions were made by people who havent worked on fo before. Which is sad, because tims grip on the games slipped entirely throughout fo2s developement, until he left completely.

Real bummer you didn’t mention what you find if you loot the bodies of the aliens besides the alien blaster: a framed painting of the King of Rock n Roll, Elvis Presley 😂

Playing through 2 right now. If this came out today, people would say "wow was this dialogue written by vivzypop?"

Didn't people complain that 2 was too silly at the time?

13:17 Black Isle made Fallout 2, not Troika. I don't think Troika was even around yet in 97.

Seymour is the protagonist of Little Shop. The plant is Audrey.

In fallout 2 you could obtain a fallout 2 manual that would max all your stats to 200 or something... if that's not tongue-in-cheek, I don't know what is.

I don't think that Bethesda has made the games any less serious, but I do think they've made them less dark. I think there was some darkness and grit present in the original two games that Bethesda kind of eased up on in Fallout 3 and even more so in Fallout 4. I think New Vegas tried to inject some more of that back into the game, but not at the same level as the original two.

The actual critique of Bethesda Fallouts is not that it doesn’t take the world of Fallout seriously enough, but that the storytelling sucks and lore is a mess.

The humor was to keep things interesting and to bring a little joy to the bleak world. Just look at the old radiation mechanics that shit was horrifying and relatively realistic. Then you have the dark shit like rape slavery child killing etc… the old games where more serious then the modern versions not because of humor but because of story and mechanics.

Fallout 1 and 2 absolutely had wild things in them. But for me, it’s not that modern fallout is too wacky. It’s how modern fallout handles the darker, more serious moments and themes that fallout 1 and 2 handled perfectly. The older games weren’t more or less silly. They were simply better balanced and knew when to take themselves seriously, and when to joke.

Honestly Bethesda toned down the silliness of Fallout in a lot of ways. They also pushed it into areas where it doesn't belong.

Fallout 1 humor is mostly hidden or easter eggs, not very in your face. Fallout 2, on the other hand... But the issue with modern Fallout is that the overall tone is less dark than classic Fallout, so the goofy elements feel more present.

Love the video, just a quick note that in Little shop of horrors, Seymour was the human, Audrey II was the plant. Other than that, great!

Fallout 1 had some easter-eggs, but not really whacky things in the main game content. Overall it had a pretty serious tone. The games afterwards (including Fallout 2) added more and more whacky, pop culture elements.

Imo the early games where computer-nerd comic-book-geek silly, and the newer ones are pop culture marvel fan silly. Different vibe I guess? Enjoyed all the games!! Good video, you covered a lot :)

IMO: The problem isn't that fallout 4/76 are filled with jokes. The problem is that when Bethesda tries to take itself and the setting seriously, they do a terrible job. It comes across as funny, to me, when I say "no" four times in a row and still get a quest marker. When those games try to nudge and wink at me, I'm offended--like, "you aren't on my level", "you haven't earned this"--and they just shatter what little investment remains

Having humor in a game doesn't make it any less serious, it's just a bit of humor, but now Fallout is a comedy with some serious moments. and very very poorly written, I'm not saying that the old ones are perfect, of course not, but I prefer that to what we have now.

Fallout 1 and 2 were my first PC games and i still love them to this day. Always thought the footprint was a godzilla reference

The plant in little shop of horrors wasn't called Seymour it was called Audrey 2. Seymour is the protagonist

6 minutes in and you didn't make the parallel between a rare and small special encounter joking about area 51 aliens and a fricking DLC literally taking place aboard an alien mothership, canonizing them and their potential involvement in the great war. That's the difference between Fallout 1, which should be the point of reference (not Fallout 2) and Bethesda's Fallout. Also, Fallout 2's 4th wall breaking is mostly locked until you finish the game.

I dont remember any criticism of the new games about them being too whacky. the gripe people have of the new games are simply about the writting system "KISS" keep it simple stupid.

The silly weird things are what make it more fun. Picture being in a post apocalyptic he'll full of people that lost their minds.

I just feel like we'll never see anything as creepy as The Master in the TV Show for example.

The plant in Little Shop is named Audrey 2. Seymour was Rick Morranis's character.

This video needed to be made. Classic Fallout & NV fans ragging on Bethesda Fallouts for their wackiness conveniently forget these things and also probably worship the fever dream that is Old World Blues

1&2 were masterpieces Like many things, it's hard to boil down something to just the factors that made it work. The thing that DEFINITELY changed is passion. The people who made Fallout 1&2 WANTED to make those games. Sadly a lot of content is just a paycheck to some people and we will never grasp what made those older titles legendary.

Most of the silliness in F1 and F2 comes from "special encounters" which are... basically easter-eggs that show up, very sporadically, when you travel on the map and aren't considered canon in any way. If you play a low luck build, it's very possible to never see a single one. The overall feel and narrative of those games IS grim, depressing, and played fairly straight for the most part. Are there jokes and references? Yup. But the world itself is NOT funny. Fallout 3 and 4 straight up feel like a parody of those games to be honest. Yes, I'm leaving out New Vegas on purpose.

There’s a lot of funny humors in the original too. Like for example there’s this guy who randomly backflips and he says “I hope nobody sees that”

fallout has always had humor. but even the humor fit the game/story/mechanic, and still added to the immersion. bethesda made fallout a campy fun time for the whole family, including collecting bottle cap plushies and nuka cola power armor. i wont even get started on the abortion of fallout set in the themepark... and the less said of 76 the better.

oh my god they killed Kenny

Many things considered silly in Fallout 1/2 were not available to a player with low luck, so most of the extra silliness was optional and as luck did not play a major role on the gameplay, people tended to skip above-average luck a lot. Talking animals, especially under scientific oversight aren't that special even in the real world, parrots can repeat human language while chimps and even better gorillas can learn hand language as used by deaf people and actually use it in a sensible manner, though their vocabulary is limited to a few years old children thus is hardly inconceivable that much larger animals with large brains would not be able to do the same. What is on the other hand questionable is why would such large animals even develop in a world with very limited resources even for much more resourceful humans, note that food and oxygen supplies were on entirely different levels in the Jurassic era where large animals and insects existed in reality that was hardly possible in post-nuclear exchange world... Bethesda Fallout silliness is on an entirely different level because in their games breaking of reality is done on so many levels for the sake of coolness, like giving you power armor at the beginning but at the same time making fusion cores last less than gasoline-powered lawnmower to balance it out, not to mention or addition of laser rifle with a hand-cranked dynamo power source as if you ever could power megawatt class energy weapon with hand cranking. Thus the main issue with Bethesda games is why and how often immersion of a believable world is broken for the developer's convenience sake that sways away from how game mechanics and tech worked in the first two Fallout games without improving the game very much, not like giving you power armor later but make its power source last longer than first iPhone in battery stress test app would make the game worse but it was done entirely for the sake of grabbing gamers attention into the game early on and any kind of realistic feel was thrown away just to achieve that goal. Because Bethesda sold a lot more copies than the first two Fallouts under Black Isle ever could hope in the 90ties, Bethesda has very little motivation to change their approach to Fallout tech&gameplay design despite it breaking immersion to the point of making Oblivion looking more realistic than new Fallouts with Mr. Handies butler robots levitating with fire blasting jet engine indoors...

A couple of things: 1. Anybody who says fallout one and two were entirely serious has never played fallout one and two or at least never paid attention to them. 2. The killer plant in little shop of horrors was actually called Audrey II by Seymour, because he named it after the woman that he loved. 3. I think the mole rats were also a reference to the Rat King, Shredder, and Krang from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 4. I always thought that the aliens had escaped from area 51, went to Vegas, got hammered and crashed their UFO again. They have a photo of Elvis with them, which suggests that maybe they had seen a Vegas show with an Elvis impersonator at some point.

I feel like the original games were meant to be dark, but not serious. It was an amazing blend. New fallout isnt bad imo, it definitely takes the cake when it comes to general feel. However I wish they retained more of the RPG aspects. I prefer the older atmosphere though. It had the perfect grit and humor for the genre.

I think Fallout 2 especially was goofy, maybe the goofiest. But I think Bethesda going the 1st/3rd person route has the comedic effect amplified.

Anyone saying that the first two Fallouts where more serious is just objectively wrong. Remember the Bridgekeeper? The crashed Star Trek shuttle? King Arthurs freaking Knights? And that's just three from the top of the dome.

I’m playing fallout 1 right now to see what all the hype about it is. People say that the culture of the classics is different and all this and that about how Bethesda’s fallout isn’t real fallout but honestly bro they all feel like fallout. It all feels like one world and the only thing that change is the mechanics and choices but the tone doesn’t seem to be that different. Other people will disagree, which is fine. But at the end of the day I feel like people just want to rage bait and or have something to complain about. I think that Bethesda and Classic fallout needs that respeck on their name💯

If Bugtheshda pulled out a smart deathclaw, even in 76 before they canonically got exterminated, they would get so fucked by the fanbase

I grew up with the classic Fallout games and I very specifically remember Fallout 2 getting a good amount of crap, from fans of the original, for being goofy and stupid. FO2 was definitely the better game mechanically but you can really feel the lack of Tim Cain throughout FO2.

I don't know, I do agree that 1 and 2 were silly but to me the humor is completely different. Ever played Killing Floor 1 and 2? They both share the same quirky voicelines, but KF1 is silly in an almost grotesque way, because the atmosphere is super gritty and yet some jokes here and there don't completely ruin it. Killing Floor 2 though? It feels super silly, like a clownfest instead of a B tier horror movie like the first game. I feel like the difference in humor in Fallout games is somewhat similiar, on one hand you have some humor here in there with a gritty atmosphere, but on the other hand it's so in your face it's almost distracting.

Well, back then there were quite a few people who criticised the wackyness of Fallout 2, talking animals and deathclaws were particularly hated. Even today, there are still old-school nerds for whom the decline of the Fallout series began with the second instalment and for whom only the first instalment is truly 100% canon.

fo1 and 2 are filled with so much wacky stuff that, when asked on what is canon, the writers for it outright said "we added so much stuff we kinda went overboard, we genuinely don't remember what is and isn't canon anymore". Objectively. the only REAL way to play fonv like an authentic fallout title, would be with wacky wasteland, because if someone actually picked fo1 and 2 up today and played them, there is absolutely no way to deny that they're filled with weird, silly nonsense. Mony python references all over the place. a red shirt next to a crashed alien ship. a dead whale in the middle of a desert with hints of 'something large', dinosaur footprints out of nowhere. harold and bob are expressly comedic. You have an arm wrestling match with a supermutant to decide if you're going to get fucked or fuck him, and depending how good you do, a sex doll gets named after you(which is not at all treated as non-canon, as it happens in a main hub, and also breaks pre-established lore that says supermutants both male and female lose all genitalia, which is fundamentally one of the ways in fo1 you can convince the master to stop his plans). If you take this series seriously, you're just going to come away wondering what fucked up kinks the devs must have been into with just how many 'horny' moments are in the first two games. Honestly. i first hated fo4, because i played fo3 and nv first, but then went to try fo1 and 2 to see if the fo3 hatemob was justified, and all i gained was an appreciation for 4. Canonicity was broken WELL before bethesda got their hands on the series to such an extent that at this point each game should be considered it's own game, separate from what came before, even if it references events from previous iterations. Edit: if i were to compare fallout, i'd have to compare it to Yakuza in this regard. Yet for some reason while the silliness contrasting the seriousness has become the selling point of yakuza, with fallout, people get a hate boner every time they see something that isn't 40k grimdark happening in fallout.

I always thought Bethesda’s fallout was more serious than the originals. I think the Wild Wasteland trait is supposed to be a callback to that era of classic Fallout. In my personal opinion, Fallout 4 has got to be the most serious of the fallouts due to its story and their companions backstories like Nick, Preston, Deacon, Cait, Maccready, etc. I say all that even though my absolute favorite is New Vegas and Fallout 3. I think New Vegas turned me into an armchair philosopher lol

I think what people mean is the artstyle. Everything, especially vault-tek looks more like a toy for children 8 to 12 rather than just part of the background world. As if the company was ran by an out of control marketing department. I mean things that give people pause and subconsciously bother them might not be what they end up mentioning when they complain - a subconscious feeling of game not LOOKING as serious gives them the idea to complain about not serious things in the game. I think what fo1-2 had going for it is the gritty and very realistic and adult looking background and characters, and that gave it the funny juxtaposition with the over the top violence and wacky things which were sprinkled all over. Bethesda's artstyle is that vault tek is disney and vaults and gadgets n weapons are a theme park.

Im going to say it... the humor and levity comes from the radio. If you listen to the ambient soundtracks theres way more dread... at least in new vegas and most of 3. Fallout 4s ambience feels like an adventure game in a medieval fantasy forest.

The difference is that Tim was against making jokes part of the game. These are RANDOM encounters that you might or might not find. Always at random place on the map. Unlike something like little lamplight or megaton which are completely stupid AND part of the main story. Idk why would someone be against having funny goofy things in a game. Bethesda's problem is not in games' side content. It's in the main game itself.

I thought the humor in Fallout 2 was because of time constraints.

I don't know. In classic games it didn't stand out and break the immersion THAT much, but in Bethesda's games I just hate it.For me their gamesare trash in general - especially those that parasite on old franchises, like Fallout and Doom, turning them into something completely different from what I know and love for several decades.

Theres a difference between having comedic relief and being a comedy show. The new falloud 4 and up are cartoony and silly themed. The old ones are themed seriously with lots of comedic relief. The comedy also cane in the form of the rediculousness of things that would happen jinda like real life. The soldier thar loves war gets killed kinda way

I think the contrast of the dark and ridiculous is what makes fallout so great

This happens with all long running franchises. Like how the GTA community says the PS2 trilogy had realistic art design even though they clearly have cartoonish comic book designs.

In Fallout 2 there is mission that allows you to plant explosives below an outhouse; the resulting explosion cover the entire village in dookie.

while i still think the game has an overall more foreboding and ominous tone, there is definitely humor to be found. one of the weirdest random encounters i've had so far while playing Fallout 1 is a group of wild Brahmin that kept saying "Moo I say" over and over. the combat log said something along the lines "you feel as though something is wrong here and want to leave immediately." off-putting but also hilarious

couldn't you go back in time in the second to break the water chip from the first?

Full disclosure: I'm relatively new to Fallout, having only started playing the series for myself around late last year. I've seen playthroughs of FO3 and NV, but it was a while ago. So I'm speaking with limited knowledge. In my playthrough of FO1, maybe my RNG was bad, but out of the multiple hours of travelling map square-by-square that I put in, I personally came across only *one* 'wacky' incident, of a cow saying something like "moo, moo, I say". The rest of the game was tense, atmospheric and grim; a world wherein I felt like any speech-check failure or backchat could result in an instant shootout. To put it as clearly as I can, mostly all of the 'wacky' humour in FO1 feels like intentionally 4th-wall breaking humour that the player knows couldn't possibly exist in-world; the kind explainable by dehydration, starvation, radiation poisoning or heatstroke causing hallucinations or mirages. It's random and scarce, and the only 'canonical' humour is in the dark humour provided in the commentary of the inhabitants. It was the type of 'survivalist' or 'make-do' humour, typically found in world war diaries. If I were to sum up what Fallout was, I'd say that it's a post-nuclear world, whereby only a couple of generations ago, the whole of civilisation as we know it was completely turned to ash. Whereby you as the vault dweller have to make sense out of being thrown, blindly, into a degenerated and fragmented society. Trialling through a wasteland that has been reduced to a survivalist, tribalist and paranoid mindset, amidst a desperate struggle between emerging and ever-conflicting philosophies. All of it being set in a war-torn, baron, desolate and resourceless world of mutation and radiation, riddled with moral ambiguity, death & disease. Between the growing 1950s aesthetic (FO1 felt only inspired by, not closely reflective of the 1950s aesthetic), saturated colours, and more frequent and zany in-world humour that tries to make the audience outright laugh, I just haven't felt the prior paragraph being upheld so well in post-NV Fallouts. And this feels especially apparent in the Amazon series. Again, I'm only a noob to the series really, but this is the impression I get when contrasting the original game to the Fallout of which we have today.

Fallout 1 and 2 having some weird sense of humor does not exclude the argument, that Bethesda's Fallouts are goofy. The alien example - in F1 you can stumble uppon the crashed vehicle, probably an UFO with 2 corpses, most likely aliens. That particular description you can read on the ship sets the joke, it can be either a real stuff from another planet OR it can be just a property of US government and the whole thing can be fabricated, the ship could've been pre war technology or a mockup, alien bodies could've been genetically modificated human creatures or were never part of alive being. You never know, you will never found out, just enjoy the super powerful weapon you get from this encounter. In F2 you just hear rummors and stories, you never ever witness the actual aliens. In god damn Fallout 4 you see the real spaceship crash and you have a battle with an alien. It's no longer a mistery, there are aliens in that world and they have malicious intents - sorry, that's goofy. It's a story that should've been kept unknown from the player, because it was way more intruiging and interesting that way. In F1/F2 there were jokes, but they never lead to a conclusion, leaving players with the questions "what the hell was that". In F3/F4 goofy parts are coherent part of the world, they are there because Todd Howard misunderstood the concept of them being just a pun.

I always laugh when people try to say that wild wasteland is silly compared to the earlier games/ isn't the cannon way to play...yet its MOSTLY references TO those earlier games

This is a realization about these sorts of games: a lot of people don't acknowledge clown world. Take VtM for example, for years since some news program (yeah, of course it came from a news broadcast) that, through what they said and footage of the LARPers, the Masquerade was a serious dark game. However, many years later I've discovered that it was more like Buffy the Vampire Slayer: it had tension and can be serious, but then comes the episode where the cult tried to summon a demon from a tome had a disclaimer next to its picture that reads "comes in actual size."

There's a lot of things that Bethesda's Fallout can be criticized for... but not the wackiness. As you've shown here, and those who have been long, long time fans would know, Fallout has always been a balance of seriousness and wackiness. Its supposed to be serious and melancholy, and then all of a sudden you encounter something that makes you laugh or scratch your head, just to break up the monotony and mood.

Jesus THANK YOU!! I hate people focusing on just the lore aspects of 1&2 when there's LOADS of comedy

My issue with bethesda games is ... essentially use of magic in "rare" items

really? people think a game where you can have a party consisting of a robot dog, a 9 foot green mutant, a tribal with his grandpa's bone in his nose that "enables" him to talk to spirits, a horndog Ghoul, a sentient Deathclaw, and a robobrain named Skynet is "serious"?

It's not about the jokes, it's about the world and how lacking in immersion it is. Fallout 3 did okay, I really did enjoy a lot of it and it has such great moments, with some decent writing. But to say the new games aren't silly, is stupid. They are, they make little sense and they're just goofying up the lore to fit their new writers terrible ideas. Like synths, absolutely awful idea, makes 0-0.00000001% sense. I'm high balling the logic percentage on that one. Most advanced societies with more resources, no radiation and more scientists could barely make power armour and stealth suits, yet these goombas made high advanced synthetic humanoids that can fool humans who autopsy them? Fuck off.

As a fan who like New Vegas the most, I love the wackiness! Maybe it’s because I started playing New Vegas and FO3 for the first time ever at the same time basically back in 2011. And I took wild wasteland in NV and in FO3 I made sure to do all the weird things. So since my first experiences with it Fallout has always been wacky and had funny odd moments. It’s definitely a serious series with a commentary on real life and politics but it also has many things to not be taken seriously! The balance between the serious and weird is what makes it work to me

I think people just don't know what they liked about the og Fallouts. They had the look. They had the atmosphere. The games aren't taken overly seriously, but the early series is primarily horror. It's impossible to not see Bethesda in modern fallout precisely because Bethesda does not do horror well post Oblivion and that's giving them far more credit for horror than they deserve. They do spooky amazingly, but true horror doesn't really stick. The first scene with Cooper and his Daughter in the TV show gives me massive hope because suddenly, Fallout was horror again. There are aspects of Fallout 1 and 2 players miss that are fully justifiable reasons for not liking modern Fallout as much. I also miss these aspects even if I believe Bethesda gets fallout and that Bethesda Fallout games are good. First. The music. The absolute desolation of the soundtrack is haunting in the extreme. Try not imagining the music in your mind when you try to go to sleep after getting killed in the wasteland. Then there are instances, like the death screens that build that existential horror. The Master is a cosmic threat, not necessarily the tangible "unequivocally bad guy who it is an objective good to shoot." Deathclaws will kill you and your entire party in a big way. The threat of being caught in your travels by Deathclaws or Super Mutants as you cross the map is genuinely nail biting. Those difficulty spikes matter too. You're supposed to feel like just some other already dead asshole who doesn't even know it yet even as the so-called "Chosen One." Bethesda tends to Great Man Theory everything in that you're always Jesus coming home. Also, this is a game series based on A Boy and His Dog. Imagine thinking Fallout takes, took, or will take itself seriously given that knowledge.

dont forget the toll keeper for a rope bridge that gives out riddles which is a reference to Monty python and the holy grail

Most of the weird random encounters in the originals were easter eggs, not part of the story. Most had a very low chance to happen on a single playthrough, you need a high luck stat for most. It's only with retrospective of fans nowdays watching hours of youtube videos of each random encounter you know about all of them, if you played the game in 1995 you wouldn't. Meanwhile Bethesda games main plots often have parts which are just totally stupid and don't fit the setting, with them being integrated into the story you are forced to pay attention as they make up the narrative. This is another one of these dumbass retrospective videos which just trys to shit on ancient games to make the new look better.

The cyclops thing in the show actually fit very well. It didn't hurt that the character was also Chris Parnell playing a bumbling villian, he's good at that.

*Wonders around Hub *Accidentally finds Thevies Guild *Makes british boss enraged over how i found his group and starts cursing at me Anyway, i tend to love every games humor, no matter how good or awful it is. If a bunch of knights ask for directions out of nowhere, im like wtf and chuckle along, or finding a mutants with duck names is hilarious. Even the shitfest in Modoc is somehow funny. In my opinion, its not good or bad, its just different type of humor/seriousness.

New Vegas the game made by the guys who worked on the OG ones then made a new studio after the parent company closed them?

Fallout 2 has so much silly stuff that even the devs said they exaggerated

I assume none of you played 76…

The bridge keeper. The Holy Hand gernade. The vorpol rat instead of the killer rabbit. Knight of the round table going clippity clop (coconuts).

Streteched aliens are Bethesda's retcon

People who say earlier fallout games are serious have never played the actual games lol

Aye I really enjoy your videos and you inspired me to play fallout 4 again

i get your point but the endings and themes of the first games werent exactly as wacky as the ones after bethesda bought the ip. i get that fallout 2 wasnt serious and i agree, but fallout 1 is way more serious than the rest. the world was bleak, dead, lifeless, your character meant nothing for most of the game and in the ending you just get exiled from the vault or get turned into a super mutant and your entire vault gets massacred and transformed

Remember when more than one thing could be true? Sure, both games are bubbling over with jokes, but does their presence detract from the serious sides of the game? One thing to keep in mind is setting & environment are only two aspects which contribute to the tone of a game. What these games have are things increasingly lacking in modern versions, consequences & restrictions. For two quick examples, the player can rob Hancock, kill Fahrenheit, haggle the blood price for her death down to 200ish caps and then become best friends or even lovers with him. Our next trick is to shoot down a vertibird because we can & then call another one to fly us to the airport with either our good buddy Strong or Nick Valentine to wave at Elder Maxson. Don't worry, there is no issue. It is more difficult to take a game's story seriously when the actions you take rarely matter. Fallout 1 & 2 could juxtapose the blaringly silly with a much more FAFO environment for new players. Replay was high because mastering the systems allowed the player to navigate & even manipulate the game in more satisfying ways than the typical Bethesda duplication glitch. I hope this doesn't come across as haughty or too harsh. I'll slap a Vault Boy 'thumbs up' on it regardless. This is a series we both enjoy & maybe even love. Its not the end of the world when two people see the same thing differently. Cheers.

Fallout 2 may be most glorious shitposting in history of video games.

Good stuff! Appreciate the nostalgia. Good teaching for newer generations.

Fallout was always a humor game but at the same time with dark atmosphere.

Did some folks confuse fallout with metro or something?? How can ANYONE find classic fallout a largely serious game??

Regarding the giant footprint and the possible connection to Bambi meets Godzilla; I first saw that short in 1995 when Doctor Demento was touring wirh Weird Al and showed funny shorts as part of the pre-show, so it's definitely plausible timeline-wise (Fallout came out in 1997)

Ghosts! Actual ghosts in F2!

Nv was supposed to have a giant fire gecko named kojira to be a reference to the godzilla footprint

This is why my biggest complaint (which is not a real complaint) about the Bethesda Fallout games is that they aren't wacky ENOUGH. I started with FO2, way back in the day, and the mix of such absurd and hilarious reference encounters and jokes combined with such a serious topic and premise is what made me fall in love.

Fallout 1 is a serious game, having some humor literally doesnt undermine its atmosphere at all. Fo2 is a funny game, not Fo1

Only thing grim and dark playing Fallout 1 is the death animations and the anxiety of Ian filling me with 10mm SMG rounds 😂 Everything written and how characters act seem so mudane and silly. Like the BOS introduction. Sure fits the idea the series was more Post "Post-Apoc" if anything.

I think it's a bit disengenuous to take the criticism of the Bethesda games and their lack of seriousness and compare them to easter eggs. Sure, Fallout 1 had aliens, but that was an Easter egg. You yourself said that not everyone will see it. Bethesda, however, then takes said Easter egg, makes an entire DLC about it, and then alludes to the possibility that said aliens may have instigated the Great War. People don't criticize Bethesda for having humor in their game. They criticise them for going beyond the pale with said humor. As for Fallout 2, it was a very common complaint even at the time of its release that it went too far with its humor.

You definitely make some good points - - I think oftentimes we hear things repeated on the internet and forums particularly and certain things become common belief, although they may be a bit more of a stretch than some people realize. Well done - subbed.

5:50 There are skeletons from the day the Earth stood still, 210 years in the elements. Get outta here!

The plant in little shop was audrey 2 not Seymour, and it was an alien that beamed to earth during a total eclipse. Seymour was a shop sweep in a flower store who found it

Jokes don't make something unserious