Deacon is one of my favorite followers

I agree about Deacon being a great follower, with the best follower perk.

True man true

Deacon is the only one in that entire group that has a fucking brain and knows that the resources and connections they have could be put to better use

God I wish I could marry the railroad to the minutemen. That would have been my idle ending

Komamuram Desdemona is a misguided fool. Those who put the survival of a race that isn't their own first are foolish. While I don't agree entirely with the Brotherhood (that they should all be destroyed) or with the Institute (that they're nothing but tools) either of their endings are preferable to the Railroad. Under the Railroad, any Synth racists will be killed for no reason other than their beliefs and humanity (at least in the Commonwealth) will be wounded once again as the leading faction refuses to help it's own kind.

Komamuram you do realize that Deacon is one of the only moraly good characters in the railroad

Most of the members are driven by guilt and shame. They seem to delude them self to think that by saving synths, they'll be saved from their personal demons. It's a kind of selfish selflessness. The Railroad (normally) invites agents with the above traits and thus I'd argue that it's not only Desdemona, but the organization itself that is illogical and a bit crazy. I personally don't mind a little crazy, but this isn't my direction :-)

I'd argue that other then Glory, Deacon's the only one whom we get to know. The rest of the gang won't open up and talk about their individual motivations, where the line is drawn in their case etc. Not that it matters, since they just run with whatever Desdemona or the other unknown leaders decide in the end. Glory will shoot gen1,2's and Deacon will babysit the new heavy combat agent. They just go.. meh.. let's make the best of this.

Komamuram totally agree with you, no one in the railroad tells you about their backround literally only deacon tells us and that why we know he was actually in the Capital wasteland...maybee not during the time the Lone wanderer was there but we know more of him then anyone else but what i mean is Deacon actually wants to help people but Dez didn't give the go... thats what pissed me the HELL OFF yet for me it was kinda hard to kill them scince you have to kill Deacon in the process

biostemm but they give the synth a choice I do think that is messed up but if the synth chooses to do so then go ahead

Many Synths are afraid of the Institute hunting them down. Even with the protection of the Railroad, they fear that they will slip up with the knowledge that they are a synth and that their fear will expose them and therefor choose to have their memories wiped so that they may live free of said fear. This is definitely not standard procedure and it does come with its risks of which the Railroad informs them of, but the point is that _they_ get to choose how they wish to live.

3 years late but, the railroad lets the synths choose whether or not they want their mind wiped

The railroad doesn't force it it is optional if you want to delete their past

DiMa in Acadia pointed this out too But the railroad doesnt wipe their minds if they dont want to Glory for example becomes a Railroad Agent herself and doesnt ever get her mind wiped

NoNameJustGame Greased hair and leather jackets for whole common wealth

how about the tunnel snakes gang? the haircut boyz. or the kings they called the Presleys?

HulCAWmania Universe​ Nah. They all don't have suits of power armor

republic of Dave ftw tbh fuck all these other scrub factions

You're a cool cat, Jack! Keep it up.

Wasteland Wanderer 1216 no they won't. They ask you to help destroy the institute with their group.

If you get banished from the Institute and have joined the Railroad, an alliance will be created between them and the Minutemen.

TheGamingVillas They try to talk you into Focusing on the Railroad if you didn't find them before you take the courser chip to them.

Wasteland Wanderer 1216 I'm absolutely sure they are more worried about you being part of the Brotherhood of Steel not the Minutemen

The GamingVillas, Wasteland Wanderer 1216 is right. I am sure they are more worried about the BOS, but If you use the Minutemen to enter the institute, Des will ask you to choose the RR over the MM. Deacon even has dialog about how he's never really liked the MM, he says they're small men with big guns.

But the railroad are pussies

Ad victoriam, Elder.

Railroad? More like FAILroad! ...I'll show myself out.

Synths? More like FYLTHS! Ad victoriam!

Elliott Delvinacht why do I imagine Maxon dabbing after saying that? XD

The directors at the Institute never grow to respect you, you only earned the position through your relation with father (as opposed to earning your position within the minutemen because you earned their respect in the first place), and I don't know how much power you would really wield without them to back you. And with your idea I don't know if they will support using their resources for things that they might feel like it won't really benefit them it's like how southern plantation owners of the pre antebellum era were opposed to internal improvements because they didn't benefit much from it

Or Mother, technically.

+Lotti Smith I think if you put down anyone who questions you they'll listen.

As a matter of fact, if you decided to destroy institute with the minutemen, and sound evacuation alarm, institute did indeed assimilate with minutemen and people of commonwealth, there post ending minutemen quest ( in my 5 new game gameplay i only got once it's very rare and unique quest) the quest called resettle refugee, where minutemen help institute scientist who escape from the institute after the destruction, resettle commonwealth in various settlement, (in my case is croup manor) i make that settlement comfortable as much as i can so they can feel right at home, it's become best ending headcanon to me when finally institute scientist with the help of minutemen, go from their underground hole to the surface to use their knowledge to make commonwealth a better place

there is a mod out now called Subversion, it has a couple options including using the minutemen to takeover the institute to convince the division leaders to go along with freeing gen 3 synths. However it does require you to run the railroad questline, pass speech checks with Desdemona during 'End Of The Line' and getting the minutemen up to enough power. Or, through additional speech checks, a little detective work, and being ready to murder a division head or two, you can convince the board to allow gen 3 synths to be granted rights as free people without the minutemen.

That's more a matter of Fallout 4 being poorly written. You should have the option to finish "End of the Line" by just waiting for Shaun to die, taking over the Institute, and then gradually phasing out all the psychopaths running the place.

This is what I wanted to do!

When you take over though you can change what they do as in change the focus of the scientists and what they develop. Or am I mistaken? Been a while since I played through. Not even spoke to preston yet this time. Level 85 lol. Doing this to the extreme this time.

Des (to quote a hat in time)GGGEEEETTTTT LLLLOOOOSSSSTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Mad Jack The first time I played I did the Institute ending because I had no clue how to kill them with the minutemen. I ended up just doing all the institute quests hoping that Sturges would get back to me

My opinion described by every faction's thoughts of a Toaster Institute:Makes toaster...to toast bread Railroad:"Liberates" Toaster Bos:Declares war on Toaster Minutemen:ANOTHER SETTLEMENT NEEDS THE SOLE S. HELP,FUCK OFF Enclave:Nukes the "Mutant" toaster

Yea tbh I was role playing the Ultimate Dad when I first played Fallout 4 so I did do the Institute end

The only reason I chose the Railroad is that Daddy Deacon. Cool character and helps with my stealth build. Nothing else though.

I feel if the institute wasn’t ran by your son I would destroy it

robert23456789 and also, the BoS is a crazy movement, however, they do good

robert23456789 if in power the BoS would not do good, eliminating ALL ghouls, whether feral or not. And ALL synths. So Nick Valentine and Hancock

Would be dead

MisterBastard the Institute which thinks Ends justify the Means. Go ahead and kidnap people, and say it's all for "the greater good"

***** It's because you're the buffer between them, that's how it's peace.

Agrippa_Invisus Except the BOS isn't trying to rebuild The Commonwealth. They see it only as a source of resources and tech. They are only in Boston to grab what they need to to rebuild the Capitol.

The Railroad doesn't force the synth to get his memory wiped. It's voluntary, and they all have their own reasons for wanting to under go the mem-wipe, for example: H2-22 has terrible nightmares about his time in the Institute and thus, wants his memory wiped.

@@christopherconard2831 As far as I know, they're in the Commonwealth for two reasons: 1. Blow up the Institute 2. Rebuild Liberty Prime to assist in blowing up the Institute Among the individual members, some have other motives. Maxson wants a new settlement for his map, Teagan wants cheap produce, the scribes want to study local technologies and wildlife, and Ingram wants an excuse to touch grass.

Also, TR aren't attempting to be regional government, hence no "Sack The Castle" quest... They remove the 2 biggest threats to The Commonwealth in BoS and TI, jobs a good one.

Ad Victoriam, brother!

MANKIND REDEFINED is canon. w android army

@@user-jh1jt9lo7i source?

Antonio Blanco no1. cares hes right ur wrong

The Railroad helps Synths, and Synths are institute property.

I was about to comment the same thing, especially since we know some synths suffered at the hands of settlers and regular people after they left the institute. Desdemona made it quiet clear that the synths will still need help even with a minutemen ending.

Dr. Amari gave a farmer's memory to Gabriel, but Gabriel chose to become a Raider.

Antonio Blanco i think that after the destruction of the institute the synths will need minors help and the railroad can now start thiking to other ones

that was wire who became desperate, gabriel just sorta climbed the raider corporate ladder

The diary is written by James Wire, Minuteman-turned-raider. Gabriel arrives AFTER they became raiders. In fact Gabriel tries to remove Wire's logs but fails at it.

The entire point of the institute is to help mankind as a species, the only reason we debate if they are good or bad is the path they take to get there. It is virtually the first "actually good, but maybe just misguided" faction we have ever seen in a fallout game! The brotherhood of steel does NOT help humans. Thats pure crazy to say. They will gladly mow down ANYONE standing between them and technology. Technology they must "confiscate" because it is too dangerous to let anyone (but themselves, naturally) have it. They are renowned for using force to do whatever-the-hell-they-want and have close to zero respect for human life.

I think you're wrong Narfle. The Institute doesn't give a flying fig about wastelanders. They view them the same way the Enclave did; as irradiated savages, too violent to be rehabilitated. Also, Father admits that they are amoral and do whatever they want to people. And the BoS varies chapter to chapter on how much they care about the people around them; both Lyons (Maxon's predecessors) of the East Coast chapter understood there's no point in preserving technology to prevent humanity from destroying itself if you are watching everyone die of radiation sickness you could prevent. Other groups in the West from time to time have acted with varying degrees of protectiveness over nearby populations. I also suspect the Institute was preparing to upload themselves into Super-Courser bodies and live forever, thus fulfilling their motto of "Humanity, redefined." The only main antagonist of a Fallout game that's been outright evil was The Master, and he was accidentally dipped in FEV and turned into a mutant blob, so he might have just been crazy. The Enclave (Fallouts 2 and 3) had almost the same ideology as the Institute, except the Enclave wanted things back the way they were, and the Institute wanted a new, scifi future. But both would be run by dictators.

The Institute is an ensign for all human behavior that claims "the ends justify the means" because we seem to be mostly in agreedment that their means are flawed rather than their intentions.

Rail Guns are the rail roads thing and power armor is the bos's thing. I'd say that's fair.

The BoS has a ranking system the higher your rank the better the weapons.

Railguns are handmade in fallout 4. For always uses millitrary grade weaponry

Railguns have high damage but their fire rate is weak. Laser Rifles are a more rapid-fire weapon.

Whether or not people evacuated depends on you, since you could choose whether they can be warned to evacuate or not. In the heat of moment, the plan was to give them a chance to escape, not to put down their guns and help them individually, that just doesn't work.

They don't care if you signal the evacuation or not. The minutemen do, but for me, the Railroad doesn't care if you signal or not. Correct me if you feel I'm wrong. I'm open for discussion.

Not to mention that it really doesn't make any fucking sense for any faction to do so with the sole exception of the Railroad. Why, you ask? Well, let's see: -The Minutemen would get all kinds of use out of the Institute's equipment if they could capture the place in-tact, but ESPECIALLY the relay network. Combine that with the SRB's surveillance, and instead of reacting to Wastelanders' problems at a moment's notice, they could do so in seconds, and potentially with greater manpower if they decide to resume production of the older model synths to bolster their forces. -The Brotherhood would practically cream themselves at the thought of gaining access to all of that technology, even if it isn't necessarily pre-war. Of course, Bethesda's writers didn't think about this possibility and said 'this game MUST end with an explosion no matter what'. The ONLY faction that might actually have a reason destroy the Institute would be the Railroad, with that reason being that they're absolutely batshit crazy. They care ONLY about synths, nobody else.

Star Foth Their motive is to rescue synths. Not caring to warn would contradict their motive. Idk 100% about the humans though.

I thought they go hostile if you don't issue the evacuation order. That happened to me when I was doing my minutemen/railroad run and I had to restart from an old save.

Minutemen and Railroad ideals don't get along!

EmporerAaron Their ideas conflict, the Minutemen which is mostly the commonwealth doesn't accept synths to them since they're terrified of synths.

They're an extremely bad mix.

Mostly, but there are people who live in the Commonwealth who share the Railroads ideas. Just because most of the Commonwealth thinks it doesn't mean that idea will always win out. Plus, because they can't tell who among them is a synth except by killing them, do you really think the Minutemen would go to such lengths since I bet most of those deaths will result in the person not being a synth?The Minutemen protect the people at a minutes notice, and are sworn to defend the people of the Commonwealth, and there will be people other then the railroad who will argue that synths are a part of "the people". Look at Preston, look at how people in Diamond City treat Nick, and how some of your companions favor helping synths as opposed to killing them. (The generous and kind hearted favor helping, while Danse, Mccready, and Cait seem to oppose it). And Hancock (if you spoke to him) even says he has no problem with synths living in Goodneighbor unless they are there to do the Institutes dirty work. Diamond City (a example of reasonable headed people from the more extreme synth haters) dislike synths after the massacre of the provisional government and broken mask, thus those bad experiences will make up how they feel about synths. Though by welcoming Nick to Diamond City and how he behaves, that gives enough doubt to some that maybe some synths aren't bad people.

Mostly, but there are people who live in the Commonwealth who share the Railroads ideas. Just because most of the Commonwealth thinks it doesn't mean that idea will always win out. Plus, because they can't tell who among them is a synth except by killing them, do you really think the Minutemen would go to such lengths since I bet most of those deaths will result in the person not being a synth?The Minutemen protect the people at a minutes notice, and are sworn to defend the people of the Commonwealth, and there will be people other then the railroad who will argue that synths are a part of "the people". Look at Preston, look at how people in Diamond City treat Nick, and how some of your companions favor helping synths as opposed to killing them. (The generous and kind hearted favor helping, while Danse, Mccready, and Cait seem to oppose it). And Hancock (if you spoke to him) even says he has no problem with synths living in Goodneighbor unless they are there to do the Institutes dirty work. Diamond City (a example of reasonable headed people from the more extreme synth haters) dislike synths after the massacre of the provisional government and broken mask, thus those bad experiences will make up how they feel about synths. Though by welcoming Nick to Diamond City and how he behaves, that gives enough doubt to some that maybe some synths aren't bad people.

Erwin Drzazgowski same

Amir Granderson thanks m8. Whats your favorite faction my favourite is brotherhood of steel

Erwin Drzazgowski im with the BOS also but i actually hated them in FO1 at first... until i joined them and the elder is stupid ingorant john Maxson but i learned to like them in FO2 whem they had a different elder.. ahh the 90's

barcalounger 123 I only played a little bit of fallout 3 and completed fallout 4 6 times but even in fallout 3 I wanted to do the brotherhood of steel ending+ I wanted to see liberty prime from fallout 3 myself

Erwin Drzazgowski Fallout 3 was my favoraite bethesda game and FO1 and 2 were my favoraite FO games but thats bec of rpg elements and story same kinda goes for fallout 3 and 4 but in totally different ways.... but its still fallout and i still love it

Bring it on!

A BabyBackRib make sure to use an un upgraded rolling pin.

tallguy7890giant gotchu

advictoriam

+Evan Scott *high fives you*

Problem is that they were on your way to those terminals LOL

A bunch of letters No fuck that shit

Nah, didn't try to save Gabriel either, I killed him before the institute could grab him. My policy is treat them like people, and I don't treat evil people kindly.

The railroad would...

Pip Bernadotte Mainly Desdemona would, I doubt glory would do the same.

A bunch of letters a hitler synth is impossible. The synths are slaves. So the institute wouldn't allow a hitler synth. So there would be no freeing or leaving a synth hitler. Because there isn't a synth hitler to begin with.

lvl5Vaporeon the Railroad only wipes the memories of synths that want their memories wiped. They didn't wipe Glory's memories.

Eddie Ayon Theres like a million long comments and you chose mine. Silliness.

"He actually makes you believe that the NCR is unfairly attacking it's citizens and Democracy is crumbling because greed, corruption and how careless their advances have been." That's because that wasn't wrong, both the NCR and the Legion are shitholes, and neither can be allowed to claim another inch of land.

RELEASE THE FOG! THE SIERRA MADRA SHALL RISE!

esoop the derp I mean, that's a little much, the wasteland citizens mostly didn't choose to be ruled by assholes.

Soarin Skys I just grew a fedora reading this

Prepare for robotic skeleton war!

And the BOS is Fallout’s Schutzstaffel

The railroad is Fallouts liberals

StarlightFromAbyss Ghouls have to the Minutemen as well. The Slog can become a Minuteman settlement.

Elijah Kahre and the problem with that is what? Synths wanting to live alongside humans is not inherently a bad thing.

***** Problem with that is Railroad plays a whack-a-mole with The Institute. Every time they pop up, Institute aims to smack them hard. Considering Railroad's aims, they really only go to actually SAVE (objectively) synths, not risking doing anything else. If that causes problems like Synth becoming a Raider, that really is not Railroad's problems. Synth made a choice, any human could've rose to that position just as well. So it is really up to Commonwealth's residents to deal with those issues.

+Elijah Kahre they are more of clones and cyborgs, not robots. To put it bluntly, Kelogg was less human than a gen 3 synth is. +StarlightFromAbyss That's what I figure too. With the institute gone, they'll probably aim for threats against humanity like raiders... or they'll disband and join groups like the minutemen that do, either way.

+Devouring_One Cyborg= Augmented Human. Android= Artificial Human.

Stephan Wyrsta especially if you are on survival difficulty and you haven’t saved/slept in a while when the game freezes and/or crashes

Edgy Man With A Sombrero I haven't played Far Harbor. Why does Dima hate them?

Because they're fools who don't understand shit. Even DiMA said that Synths aren't humans. He wants Synths to be treated equally, but he's not an idiot like the RR. If you give a sheep a wolf's pelt, does it make it a wolf? No. Synths ain't humans, never were, never will be.

Edgy Man With A Sombrero Username checks out. There were black people who hated the Civil Rights Movement. They were women who hated the Feminists ( back when it was ACTUAL fighting for something ). What’s your point ? Minorities don’t think in hive minds. Different people like different.

Well DIMA has no moral high ground with the shit he’s done.

DIMA is also an absolute scumbag who is the textbook definition of a hypocrite. He escaped the institute only to become them by killing and replacing human beings for the “greater good” of far harbor.

institute is best

Jan Jan BOS

+Jan Jan What happened to University Point was Collateral Damege? What happened to the Switchboard was Collateral Damege? What happened to Ticonderoga was Collateral Damege? What happened to CPG was a Collateral Damege? The Broken mask incident is a Collateral Damege Super mutants in Boston/Commonwealth is a Collateral Damege? Synth ( third generation ) Paranoia is a Collateral Damege? Families destroyed is a Collateral Damege?

right LOL

therealsimpson5 that is so true

I think he was probably confused?

Cole Dedhand If they are self-aware they can be considered sentient/alive.

Cole Dedhand it's not debatable that synths are alive. They have internal organs, they need to breathe and eat, they have blood, and they think.

Elijah Kahre yeah they do dumbass. And they think more than a robot does as evident by that they experience emotions and desire. Robots don't do that.

Jonathan The Berserker lol someone finally gets it, kinda funny watching everyone fight over the eat sleep breathe things. If they are trully self aware, not just programmed to appear as so then they are sentient and thats all that matters, problem is we cant know for sure if they are or not as the game programming stops us from seeing if they are as we cant make them as such. so the answer is up to the individual

Kira_Hibiki haha yep

Yet BoS is going to kill friendly Virgil and Hancock

i agree, because i feel that after the instute's fall the brotherhood could help rebuild and train the new minutemen to keep the peace even after they left

That might have been something Elder Lyons would have done, but Elder Maxson is a scorched-earth "leave the savages to fight to the death with sticks and stones" kind of leader. The Brotherhood under Maxson has no interest in the good of the Commonwealth or anyone in the wastes except for annihilating "sub-humans" like ghouls, super mutants, etc., and keeping technology away from wastelanders. The brotherhood do not give, they do not help, and they do not care. They take, they appropriate, and they eliminate, and you'd wish you'd met a deathclaw instead if you talk back to a Knight or a Paladin when they demand you turn over your shiny pre-war doohickeys. The minutemen on the other hand, are woefully inept and will only really prosper under the Sole Survivor. If and when the Sole Survivor dies or moves on, the same old internal power struggles will put them right back to where the Sole Survivor first found them; between a rock and a hard place and frantically cranking a flashlight at raiders with real weapons.

Elder Maxon, just no! No, no! He can't lead the Minutemen, plus you get the option to destroy the Brotherhood as the Minutemen, see, Brotherhood ain't that strong!

would never work considering there's a quest from the bos to take food from settlements by force if need be

I agree. Take the Minutemen's ideals, mix them with the military power of the Brotherhood and you have the group you need.

[Anonymous] Retro I love the railroad's personality. People like tinker tom and deacon are memorable compared to other people in other factions. But their ideology is questionable, though understandable (in some cases).

. Pickles what ira though? i disagree with pira for their terrorist tactics and fear and intimidation use, i mean the Irish republican brotherhood who set out to free a country when It was heavily oppressed. not bombing basterds but gurrilia soldiers

[Anonymous] Retro to be honest I have never done research on that topic so I can't add to it. What I was saying with the railroad though is that I like it that they are the smallest of the four factions, but they still manage to do well in the Commonwealth. But I wouldn't call the railroad terrorists, I'd say that they are a bit extreme in the events of fallout 4

. Pickles oh i am sorry meant it for he other guy, i think he backed down knowing his mistake

Where in Ireland are you? The fuckign IRA was nuts after the Irish spring and Revolution. They killed craploads of kids and family's using pipe and car bombs in in the north. Most of them are just overzealous religious nationalist extremists like the Islamic state.

Well if that was the case then the brotherhood would be able to track them down. Now that they know how teleportation works they can just track a signal, send prime to break the ground and repeat what we already did. Even then it’s pretty obvious that the one we destroyed was the main place.

wierd galaxy Yeah, just an example of Fallout 4's bad writing

I'd prefer the brotherhood and minutemen under the minutemen rule. so they can truly help people at a minute's notice with vertibirds being able to get them to hard to reach places across the Commonwealth. the railroad offers nothing but hideouts. hell The institute and brotherhood managed to locate their main base of operations in less than a few days. the railroad is a liability full of mentally crazed people with tunnel vision.

Minutemen or Brotherhood of steel.

Yeah probably the most sensible of all the factions in terms of survival

advictoriam

Death to your empire

+Jonathan Flynn plus being called a sentinel is just awsome

ShadowSniper08 so true

*in fo4

Anti meme christ Yes

But what if BoS are the best FRACTION?

Invaders, they want to conquer what the Minuteman had rebuild. I shoot them on sight.

5 years late but I'm just now playing and thats a dirty copout if he really cared and wanted to help he would disregard her orders and help people irregardless of what Desdemona says..

@@zalenahquaddy4354 not really having one person going out and doing good the for normal people that great, but having Dez approved more missions would be an institutional change and have whole railroad helping normal people as well. He wasn't talking about missions just for him and if he was I'd agree with you, that is a cop-out.

Synths aren't alive: you can erase and replace their minds with simple code. They are no more than man-made software in a mobile body.

*_OBJECTION!!_* (just had to say that lol) Gen 3 Synths ARE completely Artificial Sentient Life! they're as equal as you and i they're simply like a human with no memories a man with no past and they only know their only friend is the Institute but we don't see alot of Gen 3 (either that or the railroad has been memory wiping living beings?..i'd just say bad writing on Bethesda's part)

Spartan War118 You need to *_prove_* that Synths are equal to humans. As it stands, they clearly aren't.

But... Are synths sentient, self conscious beings, or are they extremely cleverly programmed robots who have been programmed to have unrestricted learning potential and self consciousness, and are made with a lab-grown biological tissue and materials (On top of the "Synth component")? Basically: Just because they are physically mostly equal to humans: does that mean they can have self consciousness, or are they programmed to seem like they do?

AussieFlavio Since they are made to kill and replace people, it's obvious that they are just highly convincing robots.

Zenon Malinowski fk you ad victoriam!

Zenon Malinowski Ad Victoriam

Zenon Malinowski I like how you are thinking in a moral standpoint instead of the big picture. Yes, the Minutemen and Railroad are better than institute and brotherhood of steel by Morals standards and goals but can't really execute it or have a plan. If Anything it's Institute=Minutemen>RR>BOS The institute, while having a bad record, could literally change the commonwealth and make it back to its former pre-war glory... but is it worth enslaving "people" and killing settlers and replacing them to get there. We don't even know if we can even change the institute laws/mindset as radical as it is over there. But on the other hand, we have Minutemen and Institute who are mostly morally correct and have good intentions but have no real strong plan to build up or improve common wealth life. Sure Minutemen are creating settlements but there really isn't an economy and they all can't defend all settlements without marking it on the sole survivors map. They have horrible plans and have fallen into disputes splitting them up before and don't even have the gear to be a good army and even if they did they could become corrupt and do a Quincy event again. All in all, depending on what chances you want to take or what you are willing to sacrifice, the Institute and Minutemen are pretty much equal in "best" endings.... And then there's the BOS.... They are just horrible on many ways. (Sure they are the funnest faction but they take technology and have an irrational fear of anyone not willing to Join them. They kill anything not human on sight pretty much and only redeemable quality is taking down the "bogey man" which once again wants to improve the commonwealth. In general, besides killing supermutants, they are just an army taking tech from rebuilding humanity with no ambition to improve the commenwealth besides slaughtering of non-humans)

"The institute, while having a bad record, COULD literally change the commonwealth and make it back to its former pre-war glory" Could, but won't. The institute doesn't care about the surface, in fact I'd argue they care less about the surface than the brotherhood, who really only care enough to steal from it. I'd rather trust shady sands, and I KNOW where those assholes end up.

Devouring_One Actually they hate the "uncivilized" current "citizens" of the commonwealth. They actually have stated they would bring their tech back up to the surface and planned to rule and educate the people above. Though the plans could change as you would become the next leader, made it known you are the strongest man in the common wealth, took down two factions, have an army of all synth generations, and words of a dying man who everyone loved and followed who crowned you the next ruler... Most are smart enough to know not to mess with your rule yet may not like you, and the ones to start a rebellion would be destroyed/ or spared and banished by your hand. On the other hand we have a arguably racists military that only takes technology and prevents further progress that is ruled by a hard headed young man that's a soldier instead of a good political or economical leader. You have to convince Maxim to spare a person, Danse, that is loyal even in the end and more a brotherhood hero than anyone else on the faction yet needs a god like charismatic person to talk him out of it.... I rather take my chances at the Institute that is willing to make progress than the flying hunk of metal idiots degrading progress.

+Bio active What alot of people don't seem understand is by Liberating every Synth in the Institute and dumping them in the commonwealth a whole new, much larger conflict would start.

Bio Active ever watch terminator? no? then dont comment about the good about railroad

The synths aren't capable of over throwing humanity. It's not like they know how to make other synths and they're just as vulnerable as an human. Besides all the terminators were bent on killing humans but the synths just want they're freedom and even raise families.

Bio Active Why would I save robots when I can build my own adorable, murdering machine, robot pets?

Even dogmeat is a BoS. Ad Victoriam.

They can think llike a human they may as well BE human so this claim is bullshit

Nicholas Eickman 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

I honestly don’t think the railroad wants anything to do with ruling the commonwealth, at least not in the same sense and the Brotherhood and Minutemen would with their patrols and fortified bases. Their only purpose is to help free the enslaved synths and destroy those who enslaved them. They probably perfectly happy with operating out of a basement for the next 100 years.

Joshua Weikel yeah they openly have members who say "rape a bunch of white girls is okay" and I'll shoot a mother fucker ten times over if he looks at me funny. let alone dates touch my love

Desdemona has outright stated that she thinks the humans of the Commonwealth are 'rotten', with the implication that she believes that all of humanity is 'rotten'. The Railroad didn't intervene with Gabriel because they didn't care, despite the fact that the blood of all the innocents he killed is on their hands. If you don't agree that synth life is inherently better (or 'purer', to put it better) than human life they get pissy at you. And they don't much care for what the synths actually want. The Railroad's mole, the guy releasing the synths from the Institute, isn't just seeing synths who want to be free and helping them escape - he's reprogramming them to desire freedom from the Institute. Many of the synths outside don't quite know why they wanted to leave, they just 'suddenly' wanted it. Speak to the synths at the Institute and they tell you about their pride in the Institute's work and how they admire 'Father'. Keep in mind that Shaun really is their 'father', at least as much as a robot can have a parent, since they are all made from his DNA. Granted, some of these may well be fake but it seems to be the overall consensus that the Institute's synths are as proud to work there as the scientists - if they wanted to leave, or even overthrow the Institute, they could do it: they have the numbers, the intelligence and the weaponry. The Railroad's mole has to brainwash them into leaving. So, the Railroad think of humanity as a lesser species than synths and hypocritically brainwash synths into running away from the Institute. You can make the argument that they don't know about the brainwashing but seriously - no-one cottoned on? Nobody? Not even the guy performing the mem-wipes? You would think that with all these synths not knowing why they ran away, no sob stories or anything, that somebody would catch on. Either they are hilariously stupid or genuinely don't give a damn what the synths want. Either way, when a synth that they brainwashed and coerced into letting them wipe their memories goes rogue and murders a bunch of people they ignore it. Reading the above... the Railroad are some of the biggest wankstains in the Commonwealth. The Minutemen, the Brotherhood of Steel and the Institute all have their flaws (instability, rigidness and ruthless calculus) but at least they all have a vision for a better world and they clean up their own messes. The Railroad claim to be moral arbiters of justice then turn around and mindrape the people they're claiming to help.

Luigi Master LMAO good point!

No you do get ballistic weave fiber.

Tbh id rather just get their good gear and then wipe them out.

@@markmagician2471 There are mods to remove that singular incentive

Useless and selfish, they don't come out to clear bad guys as bad and narrow minded and racist brotherhood of steel is they come out to clear and eliminate threat to normal citizen, in the gameplay perspective they the worst they don't offer you support beside some stupid ballistic weave (which i don't care i just wear power armor instead) and some end game vertibird, and yet you still have to buy signal grenade from tinker tom, i rather destroy brotherhood if i choose to with minutemen they also offer you vertibird better yet, you don't have to buy it, the signal respawn in the settlement workshop inventory and castle armory just take it for free, by far minutemen offer you the most support you need, vertibird (if you decide to destroy brotherhood with them), some troops support with flare, and long range artillery support, and brotherhood well you must buy signal grenade but there many BoS soldier on the field occasionally if you close enough they help you in battle,and institute they support you with synth relay grenade.

Something tells me you sided with the Raiders from Nuka World, then.

***** haven't played Nuka world yet.

miniman649 Hmm. Honestly, neither have I yet. I have the DLC both on the PC and Xbox One but haven't gotten around to it yet. All I know from them is that they are a pretty colorful group of individuals, and if you don't want to deal with the base game factions you could go for them and conquer the Commonwealth.

miniman649 I like the Nuka World gang faction: "I'm the boss now."

The brotherhood at least does more than the railroad, the railroad just full of robot lover's

All the factions are right on wanting to kill the Institute.

thegamewarfareproject ad victorium brother!

advictoriam

thegamewarfareproject hell nah, liberate synths

I think the BoS ending is woth to atleast try out for that epic Liberty Prime ! %D other than that BoS are painfully obvious parody on today's Jarhead warmongering military thinking of specifically USA. They are wet dream of anyone brainwashed in to thinking that war is a good thing.

Daniel Tejnický although the BoS takes a lot of pride from their combat prowess it doesn't mean it's a bad thing. Both in real life and in this video game Sense war is sometimes the only answer as sad as that is. After all the motto of fallout reins true, war never changes.

The only good synth is a dead synth. Ad Victoriam

FlyingPaladin fuck you. no no that was funny

chris Neway Synths are not human they are Synths. humans are born as babies and grow up and some will die old age. Synths don't grow up or grow old. now they are alive. but they are certainly not human.

+Cameron Talavera to be honest synths are probably purer humans then humans in the wasteland are.

Mark Jackson if they were human yes you are right they don't have any radiation imperfections. But they aren't human they are Synths.

Chip kinda is

Which is why it needs to be destroyed

Mix in with the idiots from peta to

damn your speechcraft is good.

Is it time for the: Sorry for my english thing?^^

Ch1n4m4nn no I think he's saying you're persuasive

Ch1n4m4nn I agree

lol nice one

The omnissiah - Shaun? Yes Other member? No

i sided with the institute, not just following the story, but by logically thinking most of the long term pros and cons of the institute being "top dog" in the common wealth. and what i figured was that there are good branches that outweigh the bad branches.

dj harrison well... Shaun doesn't know what all The Institute have done before and...... few of members accept Sole Survivor so...... X8-66 gonna along with Sole Survivor have a long time to clean up with real scum

The omnissiah - thats a funny joke

AmericanGamer21 useless and do more harm than good