"The X-01 is classified, thatss why we gave one to Nuka World so they could put a fancy paint job on it and put it in a display case for all to see"

“Military grade”: cheap, easy to produce, and just functional enough

Honestly T-60 should have just been a post-war power armor developed by the East Coast Brotherhood as an improvement over the standard T-45.

76 fix the x01 issue and makes it clear x01 is a prototype and no advance power armor. X01 plans were sent to the rig and evetually made into avance power armor

The T-51's composite laminate is likely a ceremic composite relying on lamanated ballistic fiber insulation as opposed to the whole suit being made of a simple lamanated ballistic fiber, which would get chewed up by anything larger then small rifles and pistols and would have been very susceptible to stress cracking in the cold weather of Anchorage where it was deployed

the rad resistance is there for players to explore the nuke zones

One the most interesting things Fallout 76 introduced is the power armor paints. I feel like a lot of the power armor paints can be made canon (with the exception of a few) and easily fit into the lore of Fallout without some kind of retcon or contradiction. Take the T-51 raider power armor for example. It would be cool to see a raider personalize a power armor they found with things like trophies or more armor. Another example would be the park ranger power armor or junkyard power armor.

I can see your passion toward the Fallout Lore in general, keep it up.

I like the Excavator Armor. Nice how they incorporated the huge influence of mining within the Appalachia Region

For me personally, I always think that pre-war Power Armors are divided into 2 sub-classes: - The conventional type: mostly use riveted steel, cheap to manufacture and repair. The first one was of course T-45 series. - The advanced type: use more advanced, harder to manufacture materials, no corner-cutting allowed. The first successful model was, of course T-51 series. After the Battle of Anchorage, the military realised that: The T-45 is not so effective. And with the major resources shortage we cant mass produce and maintain T-51. So we need something in-between. And we need it fast. Also double down on the rad protection because we love to nuke the sh!t out of our enemies with tactical nukes and hand-held portable nucelar launcher (Fatman) our troops need better protection to walk on a radioactive battlefield. And they have not one, but 2 solution for that: - Simply improve and beef up the conventional T-45 using T-51 as the benchmark. Result is the T-60. It looks similar to T-45, but bulkier and better in everyway. - Try to make some improvement, while also streamline the T-51 model. They kept the idea of a more advanced suit of PA, but ended up designing it from sketch. The result of this was the X-01 series. We can say it's a spiritual successor to the T-51 series. The statement that T-51 is the pinnacle of pre-war mechanized protection somewhat still holds because: compared to T-45 and T60, it's made of superior materials (poly laminate instead of riveted steel). While the X-01 may arguably used more advanced material in key areas, but in total construction the T-51 still used higher quantity of advanced materials. We can see that in Fallout 4 T-51 is the only pre-war production suit that doesn't have rust on it and also the only suit that is painted/colored by default, kind of the flagship, spare no expense model.

To play the devil's advocate, I thought Fallout 4 did a good job with power armour from a mechanics/gameplay perspective, actually made them feel like powered exoskeletons with a bit of punch.

I alway felt like the reason the T-60 was given the stats it had in fallout 4 was due to it being the new armor, and a very common thing in game design is when you have something new, and want people to play with it you make it more powerful than the other things.This clearly applied to fallout 4 even though the lore in that game was that the T-51s were better mechanically they wanted it to be better so people would use it. It’s kind of the same with the ultracite and T-65 power armor in 76 though the T-65 was just a schematic, and the ultracite was an upgraded T-51 so lore wise it actually makes sense (good on Bethesda learning how to add to the lore). With the fact that they’ve settled the T-60 where it’s after it no longer being the new thing, and that the other new more powerful armors are better placed lore wise I don’t think we’ll see this problem again (hopefully).

While everyone is talking about power armor, am I the only one who’ll mention the fact he literally melted a level 80 scorchbeast?

I always figured that the T-60 and T-51 were effectively developed concurrently, with the T-60 having the benefits of being an outgrowth of the T-45, and of simpler design. Because of that, I came to think that the T-51 became the bleeding edge suit used for recon and special forces, with the downside of being maintenance queens. Meanwhile the T-60 became the line unit for it's comparative simplicity, toughness, and ease of repair.

I really like how the T-51 looks, sad that i have a X-01 and on my level going out with that is suicide

fact is, they even showed what the base of ashurs power armor was based on from fallout three. in the item shop was a free paint recently named the vault tec engineer paint which looks awefully similar to that of ashur with the arrows and marks.

The Fallout show did reveal a weak point in the T-45 breast plate apparently along a weld, and the T-60 apparently did not rectify this mistake.

Fallout 4 an 76 have fucking awesome power armor mechanics, it really makes you feel big and badass. Much more so then from the older games.

The xo1 was built after america was bombed so the t 51 was the most advanced prewar power armor

“While it was military grade equipment, the problem it had was being military grade.”

So glad I can get T-65 with 567 467 467 and just disguise it was a different power armor

Very glad they fixed the lore I don't use power armor in fallout 76 though because I have less carry weight with power armor than my backpack so I just choose to be less protected and die a lot more than be over encumbered 😂😂

You know someone hasn't been in the military when they use the term "Military Grade" as a good thing for that piece of equipment

Actually watched the whole video, thanks for the free education :]

I just found your video while doing research for my next wasteland project, great stuff I subscribed!

I would have given the T-60 better ballistic resistance and T-51 better energy and radiation resistance.

This video is months ago and I maybe playing semantics. However, there may not be a contradiction. The key term in the description for the t51 I'm focusing on is pre-war. While we generally consider that term to refer to be synonymous with pre apocalypse. This may be actually incorrectly used by the inhabitants of fallout and in turn misunderstood by the players. There were actually two wars before the apocalypse. What I'm saying is that "pre war" in the description may not be referencing the Great War. Rather it maybe referencing the sino-american war which seems to be recognized as two separate conflicts on the wiki. If this is the case then there should be no lore conflict as the t60 was created after the sino-american war which concluded with the liberation of alaska. Why this could be misunderstanding? The description for the t51 seems to be external lore separated from the internal lore. Basically external information placed on subjects of the universe and not referenced material from in game. We as players could be taking this external lore and applying it to the internal lore. So when the inhabitants of fallout say pre war we as players consciously take that to be connected to what the external lore is saying. "Pre-war" could simply be used as a catch all term for the inhabitants as a way to reference pre apocalypse.

Set the video to 1.25x speed and let my brain wrinkle

How I would fix Power Armor lore: Leave the T-45 armor as-is, with model "d" being the highest the player can craft. Make the T-51 armor the last power armor created by the United States before the war. Model "b" is as high as the player can craft. Make the T-60 a post-war armor created by the BoS after Fallout 3. Model "c" is the newest and current version of this armor. This reinforces the BoS capability as an R&D house, as stated in Fallout 1. Make the X-01 the Enclave's first power armor, mk.II being the last model developed before the destruction of Navarro. Rebrand the "Black Devil" PA from Fallout 3 as the X-02. Rebrand the Hellfire PA from Broken Steel as the X-03. Remove all T-60 and X-01 suits from wasteland encounters, replacing them with either T-45s or T-51s.

This is a nice change of pace for fallout lore channels. Most of them are like did bethesda ruin fallout lore or how bethesda ruined fallout lore

Surprisingly this makes a whole lot more sense somehow

1:15 "a Dragon! I saw a Dragon!"

You mean, the patch that a modders did a week after fallout 4 came out and Bethesda took the credit for?

Here's why literally none of this matters: DR, ER, and RR in *both* 76 and 4 operate on a logarithmic scale. What this means is that as damage resistance passes a certain point, you receive increasingly diminishing returns on actual resistance to damage as DR increases. The functional "soft cap" on resistance is roughly at 250-300 resistance, meaning that if you were to judge power armor based solely on its resistance values, it wouldn't be all that much better than regular high level armor sets, at least in fallout 76. That being said, anyone who's played either game can tell you that power armor actually does increase your "tankiness" significantly, so where does that difference come from? Well, power armor pieces have built in flat damage reduction (NOT resistance) modifiers that reduce incoming damage by 7% per piece you have equipped, to a max of 42%, and this applies to both energy and ballistic damage. (But not elemental or radiation damage) Additionally, every power armor variant has a set bonus that adds a massive reduction to incoming radiation damage, and while this modifier *is* different for each variant, it really does not make much of a functional difference. (this is the same mechanic that hazmat suits use) If you really want to do a fair functional analysis of various power armor variants, every single one is completely identical.

I guess it makes sense that the t-60 is pre war armor since the great war was what? 11 years long or so but it also just changes a lot of the lore in fallout since we would've seen the armor in the captial wasteland beforehand

I think the biggest problem is that we think that the t60 is superior to the t51, only because its numerical sequence is greater, but as far as the real military part is concerned that has nothing to do with it, t60 could perfectly mean one model new but not better than the t51, although fallout 4 bethesda knew that the t51 is one of the most beloved armors in the franchise they wanted to promote their own armor which was the t60, that's why they made it so strong compared to the t51 so that the user had to use it as long as possible, and then they rectified it in fallout 76, This is the technical and commercial section of these armors. Now on the lore side, it is known that the t51 was a top armor at that time even though the t60 existed months before and the US knew that they would soon need more and more armor, the t45 were becoming outdated after 10 years of service and The t51 was made up of materials, technology and resources that were more difficult to obtain, at one point they thought that the t51 could be the successor to the t45 but they soon realized that its production capacity was limited by its design, so They decided to create a hybrid and adapted the t45 and improved it with certain aspects of the t51 to the point that it was easier to build and that explains why the brotherhood of steel in fallout 4 has so many armors and the t51 are harder to find, I think that in a few months the manufacturing of the t60 was much superior since they required less materials for their construction and they were able to create them en masse, also another thing that explains the inferiority of the t60 compared to the t51, is that the US army used this armor to maintain order the day the bombs fell, if it were their best armor they would have sent it to the front and not to act as "police" within the country, since they had 4 or 5 months to make this logistical change, but they continued using the t51 and t45 in the front Now my personal opinion is that the t51 has a more modern design and better armor, its structure and design is made to deflect bullets and projectiles, be agile and resistant, the t60 is just a setback in that sense since it is a t45 with more armor and technological improvements of the t51, but in final terms the t51 is superior since it requires more time to create and has more technology and is made with more resistant materials, the t60 on the other hand is made of reinforced steel to make it more easy to repair and they probably added more radiation defense because the US already knew that nuclear war was imminent, neither the t51 nor the t45 served that scenario optimally and they urgently needed a fast, reliable design that would serve that purpose , for which they created the t60 based on the structure of the t45 but in final terms the t51 is still the ultimate in mechanized protection, it was an armor made for combat and to resist what was thrown at it, the t60 an armor made to fulfill another role more than purely defensive and for combat, Their role was simply to have the greatest quantity of power armor available for war, but not in quality, as they had done with the t51.

Nice vid, I been thinking the same things for a while now. And I actually think 76 does a much better treatment of the X-01, for a start it makes much more sense for it to be in the game being that you learn it from a terminal where they were sending the prototype plans to the Poseidon Oil Rig, that is awesome, fits really well and the fact that is a prototype is reflected in it being worse than T-51b in DR and not that much better on other factors, as you said. In 4 it makes sense for it to be fairly better than the other suits because I supossed it would be the finished armor itself, but it actually doesn't make almost any sense for it to be in the game, the Enclave armor present in the game should be the one they use in FO3 (supossedly X-02 or even Hellfire) given the region and time frame, and that is something that makes me so fucking mad actually. And in case the suits you find are supossed to be pre-war models instead of left by the Enclave why would they be several of them left around if it was, supossedly, a super secret prototype? Not to mention the one un Nuka World that I can't even consider canon, like it even contradicts FO4 itself, it's so weird. They could have introduced one unique suit of X-01 as a super rare PA like the T-51b in 3 and that would have been much better. Honestly the aproach to PA in FO4 sucks to me, and I'm glad of what 76 did with it, even with te Excavator and Ultracite suits that I found really satisfying lore-wise and feel like they have a place and make sense stat wise. Not much of a fun of T-65 ngl, but I find it much more excusable than most of the things in 4. Sorry for the rant, I think about this things a lot and was really nice to see someone talking this topic, it's not common to see and got me kinda fired up about it

so the fast past T-45 has better RR than the well manufactured T-51 that dont make sense

They may fix power armor but fallout 76 destroys most of fallout lore

bro good job, but please talk faster, had to set it to 1.5 just to stand it

The T-51 is so nice looking

If you put the video to 1.25x speed. He sounds normal...

Had to play the video at 1.5 speed

I doubt you'll read this but i was curious if the Gauss minigun in the vid was TS FFR? Yes im aware they are untradable but i cant find any other videos of the such please and thank you. P.S. love your vids and you deserve more recognition then you get.

He sounds like chills if he was brittish

The only thing that needs fixing is Fallout 76.

Not a fan of Bethesda pandering to the whiny fanboys and making T-51 insanely OP to the point of being immersion breaking...basic-ass mass production T-51b is better than *Ultracite PA,* which is explicitly an *upgrade* of T-51, and even X-01, which is basically a top-secret super prototype. Also, T-60 being better than T-51 makes perfect sense if you consider that was was in limited production pre-war, but never saw enough numbers to make a significant difference, the T-51 is only the "pinnacle" of Pre-War tech due to its ease of production and reliable, rather than cutting-edge construction. The T-60 is the F-22 to the T-51's F-15. As for how the BoS got so many, well after the victory over the Enclave at Adams Air Base (which was used by the Enclave as a production facility) in the Capital wasteland, they have more than enough resources to build their own power armor, and given that its been over a decade since then, that's plenty of time to produce enough to outfit the (still rather small compared to other militarised fsctions) Brotherhood.

Good video!

Prince Valium

Would t-51 not have better rad resistance because it has a completely closed system inside the suit because it was seen in the museum in fallout 4 on the moon

Bro am I the only one having trouble getting a T-51B left arm?

We need an updated version of this for the new armors

fallout 76 "lore" should all be completely disregarded the games very existence is a cash grab and contradicts everything fallout, this can only be condoned if it is a completely different universe

I think the T-60 the east brotherhood use is better then the T-51. I think they found the plans for the T-60 and improved upon it.

Ive come to realize we need to stop looking at them like iron man suits where each new one is without question better than the last, We should instead look at them like Jets, Sure an F-35 is the most advanced fighter jet ever developed(T-60) however that doesn't mean you will always put it on the front lines. Sometimes different missions need different assets. So let's just pretend that the T-60 was more Modural and better for police forces to use, While the T-51 was useful for Breaking enemy lines under heavy Fire. And the X-01 was just a prototype. For example you don't Wouldn't say that mach 10 plane is the most advanced plane ever when it's just barely Operational, Even if in theory it will outclass any other plane.

Well the bigest reason to why the armors and power armors are so difrent from singel player to multiplayer is simple. F76 is a multiplayer game so therefor it needs to be balanced for everybody of all skill levels and to not overpower peopel thats bin playing 5+ years in for example pvp versus a player that joined today. And imo its a shitty that the X01 is so bad acording to those stats.

You should talk about ultracite armor

Man you talk so slow, I had to check if my video playback is set to 0.5 speed but cool info in the video.

I know its just an excuse to explain away lore fuck ups (i wont deny fallout 4 (and 3) have a TON of them) but one could argue this is a bad comparison because of the time difference between fallout 76 and fallout 4. during that time, even raiders could have been able to figure out how to line their suits better with radiation protection to the point that even the simplest raider armor is nearly impervious to the afflictions of the wasteland, kind of like how car windows froze over and you had to break the ice before the little heating wires were built into them so that they could melt the ice making it almost a non-issue to drivers. all in all i know this is just a lazy way to explain the lore inconsistencies away, but you do bring up a lot of good points which cannot be discarded with a simple "oh its a video game" argument. The lore exists and shouldn't be ignored for the sake of game mechanices.

Wait hold up how.is the t-51 compared to t-60 like I watched.the video but like isn't the t-60 the 3 mk of power armor? Like it was t-45 to t-51 then t-60 so wouldn't t-60 be better?

I'm trying to get X-01 power armor I already have the left leg and arm but I'm getting close

So the T-60 was a redesign of an older model that failed to live up to expectations. Fine. I’m fine with that, I guess. Certainly wouldn’t be the first time the US government sank money into a new project that would later turn out to be a steaming failure.

Bro talks like he just got lobotomized

I know i'm a bit late to the video but i like to think that the reason X-01 doesn't have a mini nuclear reactor in 4 and 76 is that the pre-enclave X-01 ran on fusion cores and then the enclave developed the reactor later, those that we see in fallout 4/76 are pre war prototypes and those in NV and 2 are X-01s (near enclave territory) are the most advanced. Anyway cool video, nice to see another person with a passion for power armors.

What is the gun in the video? Looks familiar, but I haven't seen it in game yet

what about the T65?

I do not care. The T-60 was created by the BoS after they defeated the Enclave. It makes so much more sense than the T-60 being a pre-war armor. X-O1 don't make sense...how could it be classified but still be in full display at a Soda themed Park.

now can it fix itself

What gun is that?

Yo wassup omega

My only thing is that XO1 power armor seems to be poorly designed, the raised shoulder pads seem to invite ricochet to the most vulnerable parts of most armor aka the back of the neck and head. it also increases the profile of the individual so more shots could be landed when firing directly at your target, however I do think the raised shoulders would be good for preventing side headshots while not limiting fov to seriously. Then again it also looks cool.

T-45 my favorite suite in 3 and NV. T-51 my favorite suit in 4 and 76

nice.

Even playing every Fallout main game, except 76, i actually didn't like T-51 design that much. It's a controversial statement, but i like T-45 more, so i like T-60 design, it's the bulkier T-45.

I'd already called the X01 what it was then. The games loading screens weren't helping my case then because bathesda didn't even seem to know what it was supposed to be(or had a really hard time saying it without contradiction). Glad to see 76 actually seems to clear up some of the lore holes that existed.

"Fallout 76 fixes a lot of power armour lore" Meanwhile, F76 introduces Hellfire years before even APA MK1, adds random new power armour whenever they please *cough* Hellcat, Ultracite, T-65 *cough* and **still** forgets about Power Armour Training.

Isn't powerarmor supposed to be hella op and give you the ability to survive a nuclear blast? I don't understand the stats in 76 but the ones 4 are way too op

at this point i dont onow what to thi k about any thing anymore i do hope the next fallout game is made better and on a newer engine

I’ll give Bethesda credit. They are idiots a decent amount of the time, but they at least respond to criticism in their new games. This is a good example, some other would be Non voiced character Skull checks Not enough npcs (76 criticism - fixed) Improved ui I think there are a few more but I can’t remember

What about T-65?

"Fallout 76 fixes a lot of Power Armor lore" then proceed to add Chinese power armor, Hellcat power armor and brotherhood of steel power armor to fallout76

Where would you rank excavator,t65,ultracite and hellcat?

I personally like that T-60 is stronger, as they gave a decent reason why it is, it was only used in china and Boston, and I think it restricts creativity, if T-51 is always the strongest

Good video, thanks for the information. If you’re looking for something to work on for future videos, cutting down on the amount of silences and pauses between sentences may help viewer engagement and pacing.

so wrong

Civil Use 'Power Armour' was a very good idea.

this is actually the worst fallout vid i have watched in a long time not going to lie, i bet you would say 76 is a good game and is cannon also

No, no they don't. Also > military grade So cheap?

But, several employees involved in the development of 76 have said that it isn't canon.

You, sounding annoyed, perfectly reflects the lore contradiction of the power armour statistic.

Yes but it breaks a lot to bro lol

i only played FO4... the X01 is like a tribute to the APA from Fallout 2... i dont know why Bethesda can just include it to the game, they own the Fallout franchise and well, seing that chart im kinda happy that they fixed the DR values, Bethesda could add the other power armors aswell like the APA from Washington (lets call it A-02 and to have 475 DR), the Hellfire Mk. II (lets call it A-03 and to have 515 DR) and the APA from FO2 (lets call it A-03 and to have 560 DR)

T-60 did nothing wrong, I never had a problem with t-60 being better than t-51 in fo4 becuase I just thought it was just the latestly developed and deployed right before the great war. I have gotten a little bit salty when it comes to T-51 due to some mods super buffing the t-51 with an image of it over the wrecks of T-60's and it coming across as the old guard bashing the new stuff.

do you still not need power armor training to wear it? you don't? then the most glaring lore flaw is still not fixed.

The T-60 is better then the T-51 in every way just like how the lore states it should be, no offence but everything you say should be discredited if you actually use 76 as a lore basis

T60 should have been the better variant compared to the t51 because according to Bethesda lore and canno t60 was made to replace t51 if it was to replace it why is it shitier

76>4

u should redo this video especially after steel reign

So there was *one* good thing about 76

Didn’t even show a single piece of power armor in the video💀