Fallout Lore || TTC Ep497

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3 ай бұрын

Are you a Magic player who thinks the new Fallout Commander decks look cool but haven’t the foggiest idea of what any of it means lore wise? Well have no fear, for Graham is here!
CW: Suicide, Death, Childhood Trauma
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@t_s_albatross3270
@t_s_albatross3270 3 ай бұрын
Could we get another episode where Graham covers the rest of the cards he wanted to cover?
@EdBurke37
@EdBurke37 3 ай бұрын
Vault Tech being evil was established in Fallout 2, before Bethesda got involved.
@sirKonradical
@sirKonradical 3 ай бұрын
Oh, sorry. You didn't say "um actually"
@Alikaoz
@Alikaoz 3 ай бұрын
Didnt't necropolis in 1 also do that?
@BOTHthosearetaken
@BOTHthosearetaken 3 ай бұрын
The vaults were never meant to save anyone
@marcushead9985
@marcushead9985 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, and Chris Avellone, one of the Fallout 2 devs, even released a few Fallout series bibles in the years before the Bethesda buyout that made explicit that Vaults were mostly social experiments, and even listed a few examples that haven't appeared in the games. I still remember Vaults 68 and 69 being "999 men/1 woman" and "999 women/1 man."
@FFKonoko
@FFKonoko 3 ай бұрын
Bethesda still made it much more explicit. The series bible being the source, compared to "wow, this vault is literally just a person grinder"
@danielsandefur7364
@danielsandefur7364 3 ай бұрын
Kathleen: “I have a soft spot for noir detectives” Me in the middle of a Murders at Karlov Manner Draft looking at the flavor text “that tracks”
@emilysmith2965
@emilysmith2965 3 ай бұрын
“We’ve never lived in an age of subtlety.” Well said.
@shockpunch17
@shockpunch17 3 ай бұрын
Fallout 3 had a whole DLC devoted to the aliens! You traveled with a cowboy and a samurai at one point!
@kpoffaas
@kpoffaas 3 ай бұрын
I loved that DLC. It was so cool. The gun/blaster you get at the end was so fun. I liked it so much that I cheated in more ammo for it.
@professordetective807
@professordetective807 3 ай бұрын
I think most fans prefer to ignore that one.
@houseofshadow6380
@houseofshadow6380 3 ай бұрын
​@professordetective807 I didn't. Absolutely loved Mothership Zeta. Nice closed-loop DLC that absolutely changed my late-game strats. Being able to take down the Deathclaws at Olney ezpz was so great.
@professordetective807
@professordetective807 3 ай бұрын
@@houseofshadow6380 | I meant more in an "overarching setting/lore implications" sense. You re-wipe-out a large chunk of North America roughly corresponding with Montreal using the alien ship's death ray, near the end. The plot got just a BIT too much, for some folks.
@FWill13
@FWill13 3 ай бұрын
Point of clarification: Obsidian is nowhere near defunct. They were acquired by Microsoft and are working on a big open world RPG called Avowed, due out this year.
@Vulfthyr
@Vulfthyr 3 ай бұрын
I would also like to add that the Pillars of Eternity series is one of the best CRPGs ever made, especially Pillars 2. Obsidian is going very strong, still, and Pillars 2 was, arguably, their peak.
@davidford5575
@davidford5575 3 ай бұрын
One of the weirder fallout facts I recently learned is that Aradesh the founder, a character from the original fallout who also gets a card in these precons, is voiced by Tony Shalhoub, who is the actor that played the character of Adrian Monk on the detective TV show Monk, in addition to a multitude of other roles.
@professordetective807
@professordetective807 3 ай бұрын
Fallout has quite a few names in its casts. Michale Dorn (Worf from TNG) played Marcus in 2 and New Vegas. René Auberjonois (Odo in Deep Space Nine) played Mr. House. Lynda Carter (Wonder Woman in the 1970s series) cameoed in 4 as a lounge singer (with a few original songs to boot). I could go on.
@JediMB
@JediMB 3 ай бұрын
Richard Dean Anderson playing Killian Darkwater in the original Fallout. 💜
@kristopherwatts9466
@kristopherwatts9466 3 ай бұрын
I petition for Graham to do a video series geeking out about all of the card references!!
@Stoicgame
@Stoicgame 3 ай бұрын
I see you what you did here Graham. I too, tell my wife we need to sit down and record a podcast when I want her to listen to something I’m interested in.
@FranzBeckenboden
@FranzBeckenboden 3 ай бұрын
14:50 I love how in the universe of mtg the price of standing a test of humanity and regaining control over chaos is designed as "everybody draws a card"
@michaelhuerta7469
@michaelhuerta7469 3 ай бұрын
Graham and Kathleen geeking out together so awesome. Hoping Graham makes an Agatha Fisty commander deck now
@MrJ03K3rR
@MrJ03K3rR 3 ай бұрын
3:00 I was really hoping Graham was going to do the "War. War never changes..." speech when establishing the lore
@JediMB
@JediMB 3 ай бұрын
According to Tim Cain, the original idea behind the vault experiments was that they were to be useful for humanity's inevitable migration to other planets.
@Zeathian
@Zeathian 3 ай бұрын
To correct Kathleen at 37:24 . Obsidian is still around they were part of the crpg revival with their Kickstarter for Pillars of Eternity. They made two of those, a rpg called Tyranny, which is all about playing the bad guy, for Paradox Interactive. Their latest game was an adventure game Pentiment about being a detective in 16th century Bavaria. They're currently working under Microsoft on Avowed which takes place in the same universe as Pillars of Eternity. They also tried to make their own legally distinct Fallout with Outer Worlds (not to be confused with the excellent Outer Wilds). The game however felt more like a proof of concept then an actual game.
@devinkerr5474
@devinkerr5474 3 ай бұрын
Finding out Avowed is in the Pillars world hurts me a bit. I just couldn't get into that world or it's lore. I wonder if Avowed will change that
@kraxosOBK
@kraxosOBK 3 ай бұрын
ALGORITHM, I AM ENGAGED
@abesmith115
@abesmith115 3 ай бұрын
NOT AS ENGAGED AS I AM, PUNK!!
@joshuamartin3232
@joshuamartin3232 3 ай бұрын
Bastion of remembrance is my favorite reprint, those statues are literally a bastion of remembrance
@grittack6872
@grittack6872 3 ай бұрын
I would love to see Graham go through the lore for all of the cards in the set! It's so nice to be transported back to the lore of the games through these cards.
@GusXFowler
@GusXFowler 3 ай бұрын
I think these lore episodes are where TTC really shines, and I'd love to see a part 2
@fonkoncl
@fonkoncl 3 ай бұрын
rip matthew perry nuts that you now have at least two cards! "lethal scheme and Chandler"
@connor_rhoads
@connor_rhoads 3 ай бұрын
I’d like to hear Graham talk more about the lore and cards in depth. Especially some of the face and backup commanders.
@CDekar
@CDekar 3 ай бұрын
One of the references I liked was with Fraying Sanity, in which the webcomic Penny Arcade actually created their own vault and it's experiment. For missed themes, I kinda wish chems were depicted, but I understand wanting to stay away from drug use, even if the drugs are fictional.
@Mogg001
@Mogg001 3 ай бұрын
I love fallout, have played them all, and knew this lore, and still want more of Graham telling me lore. Hearing someone legitimately interested in the universe talk about it is always nice.
@MadHauk
@MadHauk 3 ай бұрын
I would really like a LRR stream or Let's play of the first two Fallouts. I've allways liked the idea of them, but never quite managed to get through them myself.
@KirbytronicWouldLiketoBattle
@KirbytronicWouldLiketoBattle 3 ай бұрын
There is a Talking Sim for Fallout 2, I don't know about the first one
@lilyoftheveil666
@lilyoftheveil666 3 ай бұрын
I like the idea of the old Fallouts, but the controls are so different from what I'm used to that actually playing them is difficult
@josh.fenrikson3571
@josh.fenrikson3571 3 ай бұрын
Another beautiful day in the Vault with quality entertainment network Tap, Tap, Bottlecap
@themysticsdream
@themysticsdream 3 ай бұрын
I'm here for the Al Gore Rhythm!
@FrankiePeanuts
@FrankiePeanuts 3 ай бұрын
SARCASM WARNING Um actually, at the start of Fallout 4, the Vault-Tec salesman is NOT there to try and sell you a spot in Vault 111. He's there to confirm the details of your family situation because you've been guaranteed a spot in Vault 111 due to the husband's prior military service.
@Ariamaki
@Ariamaki 3 ай бұрын
Easily missed aesthetic design detail: Inventory Management has the guns and weapons laid out in a circle around the player character, like the quick-keys or 'weapon wheel' in 3/NV/4.
@InkyGhoast
@InkyGhoast 3 ай бұрын
I appreciate Fraying Sanity from a community perspective as that is a reference to an old Penny Arcade comic series which in turn got made canon in a series of memos in one of the more recent Fallouts and is now being referenced again as a magic card.
@gerardochavez1528
@gerardochavez1528 3 ай бұрын
I love that idolized is basically a super version of exalted, since they could be synonyms
@silverstorynost
@silverstorynost 3 ай бұрын
I only just got back into MTG after over 4 years away, and I can't properly convey how much I love your guys MTG videos. I watched all the Friday Nights as they released, and am enjoying going through the videos that I missed over the years.
@gerardochavez1528
@gerardochavez1528 3 ай бұрын
The Nipton Lottery has some of my favorite flavor of any card in years
@BOTHthosearetaken
@BOTHthosearetaken 3 ай бұрын
Lore Lore never changes
@EricChoiniere
@EricChoiniere 3 ай бұрын
Retcon: Am I a joke to you?
@aceviru
@aceviru 3 ай бұрын
​@@EricChoiniereFallout 76: hi everyone
@dragonmz5274
@dragonmz5274 3 ай бұрын
The greatest failure of WotC is not including a "Tragic: The Garnering" card
@ReallyNotAGoose
@ReallyNotAGoose 3 ай бұрын
I hadn't seen that Path reprint until now, but that is one of the best flavour/mechanic fits I could have hoped for.
@loganjamesonhatch5050
@loganjamesonhatch5050 3 ай бұрын
NOOT NOOT
@InvadedOath
@InvadedOath 3 ай бұрын
Am I right in thinking that the main split in the timelines is that in the Fallout universe the transistor wasn’t invented, hence all the tech is still based on vacuum tubes and much bulkier?
@pBlackcoat
@pBlackcoat 3 ай бұрын
Yep! They didn't figure out semiconductors for whatever reason
@justherby3567
@justherby3567 3 ай бұрын
Love the description of super mutants as "big green guys that yell"
@tsakowich
@tsakowich 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for bringing the fallout lore to the discussion around the precons. Power level and reprint value is secondary to the flavor for me.
@TheDocperian
@TheDocperian 3 ай бұрын
5:27 to speak more to that point, I'm always shocked at how much of Fallout's music is just actually from the atomic age and not made for the game in that style. For example "Crawl Out through the Fallout", while admittedly being more of a novelty joke song, was written in 1960 and is so weirdly perfect for the series.
@Engineer_Hall
@Engineer_Hall 3 ай бұрын
Not a game reference, but they do reference a Penny-Arcade comic on Fraying Sanity. You can read about it on their February 22 news post
@Wreckonning
@Wreckonning 3 ай бұрын
35:30 It's funny Kathleen says that because the most Punchy companion was voiced by Felicia Day basically just being Felicia Day in Fallout.
@grifftastic2745
@grifftastic2745 3 ай бұрын
Bonus geek cred if you spotted the Mallrats reference. In the episode, not the set.
@houseofshadow6380
@houseofshadow6380 3 ай бұрын
Would you stop calling me that?
@corn-cob-gaming
@corn-cob-gaming 3 ай бұрын
One meta card that I love is Ian. He is often the first companion you get in the first game. One thing about companions in FO1 is that they dont really consider anything but the enemy when shooting so you give him an automatic weapon and he shoots you constantly. Also 2/1 is a great statline for him because he cant really get stronger besides equipment
@ZiegIce
@ZiegIce 2 ай бұрын
The fact that we did not get a Joshua Graham or Ulysses to go alongside Legate Lanius made me so sad. And that the only mention of Cazadors was the alt art of hornet queen as Subject 73 from Old World Blues. Still the overall flavor and playability of this set was amazing.
@robertabugelis3962
@robertabugelis3962 3 ай бұрын
Tapity Tap Tap!
@MagiWearInd
@MagiWearInd 3 ай бұрын
I love fallout lore!
@henriklundporsgaard4393
@henriklundporsgaard4393 3 ай бұрын
Lot of good stories in the Fallout universe.
@Choiseul11
@Choiseul11 3 ай бұрын
Fallout is great, and TTC is great, and EDSC is great! Praise Atom!
@patrickallenjohnston
@patrickallenjohnston 3 ай бұрын
Engagment for the engagment gods! (Also i woul totally watch more of this).
@KaChiKaChak
@KaChiKaChak 3 ай бұрын
There's a PBSs idea channel video on how basically how the transistor is a symbol for peace and how fallouts parallel futures depends on resources for fueling nuclear powered... everything lead to its world downfall Also, fallouts aesthetic can be called Atom Punk
@Ladyjessica0
@Ladyjessica0 3 ай бұрын
Among the reasons people consider new Vegas the best is that it’s created by obsidian, which was founded from former black isle devs who made (among other things said in the video) fallout 2.
@FridgeLogician
@FridgeLogician 3 ай бұрын
WHERE IS JOSHUA GRAHAM AND THE THINK TANK, BETHESDA, YOU COWARDS?! I mean, there's even a Think Tank card already! All that's needed is to make art for it!
@Hiddenkeymaster3
@Hiddenkeymaster3 3 ай бұрын
My family and I still call heating something in the microwave "nuking it" in real life.
@shivambhatt8380
@shivambhatt8380 3 ай бұрын
isn't that just a common american saying? i've said and heard it all my life.
@Circular_Square
@Circular_Square 3 ай бұрын
I haven't seen anyone talk about Lily Bowen card which is disappointing she's my favourite Fallout character and the card reflects her very well
@houseofshadow6380
@houseofshadow6380 3 ай бұрын
19:14 Graham, I don't blame you for mixing up the games because there is SO MUCH LORE, but Vault 87 is Fallout 3. This primarily sticks in my brain because when I first played 3 all those years ago, I was absolutely determined to discover EVERY location in that game, and approaching the outside entrance to 87 is lethal. But I finally did it thanks to many MANY RadAways being hotkeyed on the d-pad. I definitely died anyway, but it still felt great to do something so profoundly stupid.
@marcushead9985
@marcushead9985 3 ай бұрын
Even if everything else about the set had been bad, the expansion symbol for the Fallout Universes Beyond set was 11/10.
@SwiftWing201
@SwiftWing201 2 ай бұрын
Was honestly very surprised at the amount of references to fallout 76. I know its not well regarded but I love the game and was expecting them to try to sweep it under the rug and give it as few cards as possible.
@jensling
@jensling 3 ай бұрын
Speaking of Fallout lore, I was *sooooo* dissapointed when they put Boone in the Ceasars Legion deck, and not the Scrappy Survivors deck.
@CasualKing21
@CasualKing21 3 ай бұрын
I can't wait for the Amazon Prime Fallout show next month!!! So glad y'all're doin' this episode!
@ff0213
@ff0213 3 ай бұрын
OK so what we would like is a Fallout Lore Podcast from Graham and a Warhammer 40K Lore from Cameron as in both of these instances these are people that have a love of the universe these games are based in
@JacketedRock717
@JacketedRock717 3 ай бұрын
The fallout decks are very sweet and the lethal scheme reference was cool but I am still a little sad we didn’t get Benny as an actual card.
@Jjdude101
@Jjdude101 3 ай бұрын
This is exactly what I was looking for- awesome and Ty
@katerclysm2337
@katerclysm2337 3 ай бұрын
lore dumbing with either or both of you is always appreciated :>
@aaron9797
@aaron9797 3 ай бұрын
lore!
@NStripleseven
@NStripleseven 3 ай бұрын
Damn I gotta play fallout
@theimmortalleanwalker1307
@theimmortalleanwalker1307 3 ай бұрын
Not a fallout guy at all but I like the Roman history reference that legate lanius has an ability called decimate that is an actual Roman decimation.
@Rich2799
@Rich2799 3 ай бұрын
I love the flavor in this set. I bought but barely played Fallout 3 & New Vegas. This motivates me to finish the games
@fosterark
@fosterark 3 ай бұрын
This is 100% the content I wanted. It was - dare I say it? - pretty RAD
@sle7189
@sle7189 3 ай бұрын
My nootnoot button just came in today from cardkingdom! 😁
@cameronrattray4374
@cameronrattray4374 3 ай бұрын
It's actually surprising hearing someone talking so positive about the Fallout crossover. For some reason, out of every universe's Beyond product we have received in the past, I've noticed Fallout fans are the most vocal when it comes to any minor flavor fails or notable characters not being portrayed 100% accurately. I mean, there's only so much you can do to fit it into the established game of Magic the Gathering as it is, but I would not call this crossover a fail despite being tired of universes beyond.
@troyheath7704
@troyheath7704 3 ай бұрын
I honestly felt like the big factions of FO4 were really underbaked, from the perspective of creating moral quandries. You've got slavers who deny the personhood of a group of people that the game never truly tries to convince you shouldn't be considered people, a group of colonists that want to GENOCIDE those same people, and then the underground movement working to free the slaves from the first group and a militia of people who are mostly interested in creating a safe place for everyone, but have no strong feelings on these slaves (but NORMAL slaves are definitely a no-go for them). And the last two groups can be convinced to work together with minimal effort. It was never a question for me on any level
@AscendtionArc
@AscendtionArc 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for this. I actually said today, we don't have, (sensible) flying cars, but we have flying trains 0.0 .
@dafrog81
@dafrog81 3 ай бұрын
Nuclear, not nucular
@tai271
@tai271 3 ай бұрын
I’m so happy I love fallout is has been my longest special interest
@greatdinn8489
@greatdinn8489 3 ай бұрын
The Sscret Lair cards definitely feel the most "cash-grabby" which is probably why they largely switched to making them reskins over mechanically unique cards. But the sets, and especially the Commander decks: the care put into them cannot be denied. That was what eventually sold me on UB.
@jgmweston
@jgmweston 3 ай бұрын
Pillars of Eternity 2 is really good, speaking of Obsidian.
@taylord2006
@taylord2006 3 ай бұрын
Engagement achieved!
@TheBagwell269
@TheBagwell269 3 ай бұрын
Fun fact... Cesar crucified benny when he captured him
@jimhawking11
@jimhawking11 3 ай бұрын
The Chosen One i'm pretty sure is a direct descendant of the Vault Dweller.
@ArninoStorm
@ArninoStorm 3 ай бұрын
Graham missed Johnny Five Aces!
@j0hnicus
@j0hnicus 3 ай бұрын
76 is a pretty solid game, but once you finish the story there isn't much to do with it being online but build a camp - great if you ever wanted to co-op a fallout game, though
@nalkarauke
@nalkarauke 3 ай бұрын
obsidian have a game in the vibe of the Elder Scrolls coming out "Soon"TM called Avowed that looks pretty interesting so not at all near defunct
@FenderTele71
@FenderTele71 3 ай бұрын
I am here and I am engaged. Take that, algorithm!
@NarcoticIsland
@NarcoticIsland 3 ай бұрын
33:58 this is Minutemen slander
@Butternades
@Butternades 3 ай бұрын
I’m very engaged algorithm
@scyphozoa
@scyphozoa 3 ай бұрын
I'm still a little disappointed that we didn't get a proper card for Benny, but I get not wanting to shove too much New Vegas into the decks (as pleased as I would be)
@pBlackcoat
@pBlackcoat 3 ай бұрын
This was worth my ten bucks this month
@mikelegault9344
@mikelegault9344 3 ай бұрын
Looks at medieval codpieces… nope never been remotely subtle.
@devinkerr5474
@devinkerr5474 3 ай бұрын
Well, I re-downloaded Fallout 4 last night
@salfredo
@salfredo 3 ай бұрын
Part 2 maybe😊
@VampyricDoge14
@VampyricDoge14 3 ай бұрын
Gotta be honest, I rarely watch TTC. Fallout Lore episode, though, I had to click.
@helios566
@helios566 3 ай бұрын
Great set, I'm sad there wasn't a dedicated new vegas deck 😢
@antoinegoubet1076
@antoinegoubet1076 3 ай бұрын
Mr Stark, engage!
@MCKICKZ
@MCKICKZ 3 ай бұрын
I want more of this !!❤
@harrow9389
@harrow9389 3 ай бұрын
Would love if Graham just played fallout on stream
@pBlackcoat
@pBlackcoat 3 ай бұрын
He did! It's where Agatha Fisty came from!
@missingknight7955
@missingknight7955 3 ай бұрын
So I get why they didn’t, but I still feel that this set was crying out for a reprint of Armageddon.
@EricChoiniere
@EricChoiniere 3 ай бұрын
They did Ravages of War instead.
@missingknight7955
@missingknight7955 3 ай бұрын
I know but it would have been so perfect.
@thebassistsoldier
@thebassistsoldier 3 ай бұрын
Like 69, nice! Also as disillusioned with magic as I am these days, I gotta admit the fallout product looks pretty great.
@OGNoNameNobody
@OGNoNameNobody 3 ай бұрын
Typing before I check, but how about an episode of *AFK* playing the _Fallout: the Board Game_ from FFG?
@Danielsworlds
@Danielsworlds 3 ай бұрын
GARRY?
@evandavis9636
@evandavis9636 3 ай бұрын
LORE!!!
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