It's official, Tim Cain is a self-confessed Murder-Hobo! 😆

My good friend Nate here in Florida is a well known cosplayer. The dead assaultron laying in the sand in episode 2 is actually his costume that they bought from him to use. He had to keep it secret for a long, long time and was super excited to finally see it on the screen.

The part with the "water chip broke and we only have two months" FO1 reference was a bit weird, because no one talked about it later. 😂

I love how you didn't pull the "I made Fallout" card. I also love how you, as one of the creators of Fallout still theorize about Fallout. Your acceptance of other storytellers' take on the franchise is really commendable.

Yes exactly! I thought the same! Lucy: First playthrough Maximus: second playthrough Ghoul: third playthrough

You are mocking me with this thumbnail, Tim.

The three protagonists basically being player character builds doing the same campaign but via different routes / sidequests was BRILLIANT. It translated so well into TV. Never expected the show to be as good as it was.

hi Tim! I asked Michael Abbott Jr., the actor who played the sand purifier diaper guy, if he was familiar with the original game. his answer was: "To this day I’ve never played any of the #FALLOUT games or seen any of the animation. The physicality was based solely on what I thought someone living under those conditions might look like and luckily Jonah & Graham were into it. The cloth diaper on the other hand-THEIR idea;-)" this is a very interesting convergence of interpretation of what being in the wasteland would look like!

My favorite 'easteregg' so far was Cooper wanting to buy a 5 acre farm in Bakersfield.... Bakersfield shows up as Necropolis in Fallout and Cooper turns soI thought it hilarious he thought he is safe there haha

Wilzig asking Lucy "The question is, will you still want the same things, when you've become a different animal altogether?" was such a good piece of foreshadowing for the conclusion.

My favorite easter egg is the 101097 code! Oh, and as far as the Shady Sands nuking date goes, I can see all sorts of ways that the writers can write around that. It seems like the kind of moment meant as an attention-grabber--with an explanation already in mind. We're still waiting to find out what happened to the NCR, and the writers still have tons of open pathways that they can take the NCR. For example, the leadership simply might not have been there. Judging by the way the timeline was drawn, some unknown amount of time passed between the fall of Shady Sands, and it being nuked. If Shady Sands fell, that doesn't mean the leadership died; it just means that Shady Sands was no longer ground zero for the NCR. If the key figures aren't there, then nuking Shady Sands is not enough to kill off the NCR. Also, even though the show seems to have altered the location of Shady Sands--or maybe Shady Sands itself is supposed to have been re-founded at some point in a new place?--I can't help but remember that it was settled by former Vault 15 residents. Perhaps the location of Vault 15 followed the location of Shady Sands, meaning that the leadership had a handy bolt hole... one that could have been repaired enough to be nuke-proof, during the many years after it was last abandoned. Oh, and for you who do not know your history, on August 24, 1814, Washington, DC was captured; British troops burned down the White House, the Capitol, and a lot more big chunks of DC--our equivalent of Shady Sands. The seat of our government was destroyed. And yet, somehow, here we are, over 2 centuries later. Crazy, huh?

The only thing they didn't do, that I wish they'd done, was bring Ron Perlman in to say "War… war never changes" 😊

I agree that vault tec was planning on nuking but didnt actually, they had so many unfinished vaults. You'd think they'd finish construction on all their projects before pushing the button.

It would be so cool to see the original Fallout devs get a cameo in the next season

Tim is literally a legend, so positive. Must feel incredible seeing something you worked on from the beginning evolve into such an IP and now with a show too.

I appreciate how the show doesn't go out of its way in terms of exposition; it gives you all the information you need as long as you pay attention. It's written in a way that respect the intelligence of the audience, even in the way that the show handles it's comedic elements-- it doesn't go out of its way to tell you that you are supposed to laugh at the moments that are intended to be funny or silly. The brief shot of Lucy and Maximus looking shocked and confused at the fact that they were unharmed after being missed by the gratuitous amount of bullets that had just been shot at them honestly cracked me up.

I wish this video was 3x longer, could listen to you talk Fallout all day

Tim, i thought the same thing. Why would she send her kid to the party knowing the bombs would fall? Something is up there.

Hi Tim! Big Fallout fan here since 1998 (got to it a little later), and your work in general, writing to you fron half a world apart. Love that you use KZfaq yo let us hear your ideas, and that you actually read us back. Been waiting to throw something relevant just as an excuse to first show my true appreciation: kudos to you. I loved the Fallout show. It got me drilled to my seat. I got actual shivers when I heard the now famous “War never changes”, and felt like a little kid finding everything that was on screen releted to the games. I would have much preffered if they kept the FO1/2 aesthetic, but I get it: it’s Bethesda doing their own thing, and I deeply respect that. So, here is my 2 cents: it’s true, Fallout is known for it’s unreliable narrators, some inconsistencies are to be expected from game to game, and even on the same one (looking at you backstory about Jet!), given the amount of extension, time and people involved. But beyond that and on a “canonical” review, I belive that “The Fall of Shady Sands” was an exaggeration (after all the Fall of Rome didn’t mean the destruction of the City of even the Empire, that continued east for years to come), then we see a nuked city. Which striked me as off, given that Shady Sands was a post war town, made by adobe settlements, in close proximity to Vaults 13 and 15 (the latter, where most of its population came from), near the mountains, and far from any City. The Shady Sands, close to LA, could mean the State of Shady Sands, as part of NCR, that we see in the show: still is on. Maybe its some mix up, and the city is actually the LA Boneyard. What was really off for me was that the post ending scenes that show a desolate New Vegas, filled with downed NCR vertibirds. A thing that sent my suspension of disbelief haywire was the MacGuffin cold fusion: I mean wasn’t that what fueled most cars, cities and even power armor. And energy weapons used self contained, portable micro fusion reactors. The thing it came too little too late, kept it from preventing the Resource Wars, in a world that still dependen mainly on fossil fuel? Vault-Tec didn’t stopped its use, nor did the US gov. Sorry for the long rant and thanks for all your work!

Todd already addressed "The fall of Shady Sands" and it getting nuked are two different times. The fall refers to something else and the nuke drops shortly after New Vegas. Makes me feel the Mr. House ending is the canon ending.

Yes! The guy with the “water filter” I loves that part! I told my wife that scene felt straight out of fallout, especially the end where he says “thanks for not shootin me with that gun” 😂

Todd Howard confirmed in a interview that nuking of Shady Sands happened shortly after events of Fallout New Vegas (2281) and that Fallout 1, 2, FNV and Tactics are also still canon. "Fall of Shady Sands 2277" is not referencing nuking in 2277, but something different.

Much respect, sir. You helped bring one of the greatest IPs to life and it was wonderful to hear your thoughts on the show

In the show Vault Tec didn't drop the bomb. It was just them saying they would if it came to it.

I really enjoyed Ep. 4. The one where Cooper drags Lucy around and they meet a ghoul named Rog and Lucy finds out the consequences of her accidentally destroying Cooper's vials. Then, Cooper has to put him down as a result. Later in the same episode, she releases a bunch of ghouls in a Super Duper Mart and has to do the same with Martha. The episode then ends with Lucy saving Cooper by bringing him the vials despite what he put her through. The tone of the episode was pretty much close with the original Fallout in that you could do everything right and still lose but still not give up anyway.

It has recently come out that the Writers of the TV show asked permission from Todd Howard to Blow up Shady Sands. So I definitely think that they have a plan in mind already for what is going to happen in season 2.

I love these videos that you come out with in the morning. Small talk show type but its so refreshing to here honest perspectives from the man who was there from the start!

Thats a very good point about "Vault Tec" planning to nuke first but maybe got caught off guard when China launched the nukes when they were literally losing on the main land, very curious indeed, hoping season 2 clears it up more

The show ends at that point in the games where you feel like things are really getting started: Bringing back the water chip, returning Arroyo, reaching New Vegas. The ending feels like that point and it's tough to wait for more.

It's funny that the Creator of Fallout is now theorizing like a fan about what the lore is.

I can't wait for season 2! They did such a good job on the show! Thanks for doing these Tim! I always look forward to these videos!

I love the show, but I don't like how the handled the NCR's demise. The show takes place around a decade after New Vegas. Which means that if the NCR is no more, it's renmants would be a bit more civilized and organized than what the show depicts. It's just Fallout 1 all over again, just like they did with Fallout 3.

That line where The Ghoul goes 'you're great but you're not him, DogMeat' when he was reminiscing about the precious dog he used to love cut me up a bit, in a good way. I felt if the show needed more touching moments like that. Mind you, that's not really "Fallout", I know...

Damn, tim casually dropping that he's the "Hip Hoppopotamus", what's Steve got to do with it?

I love your videos, too many videos on KZfaq these days are made without real personal interest. All of your videos feel as though they are made because you have something to say about something you are connected to and I love that. Even your videos about working in programming and design, they are an absolute gold mine of small details that could really help people manoeuvre through that world. Keep doing what you are doing man, your channel is great and I hope to see more seasoned veterans of other industries doing the same thing!

Loved watching the video, Tim. It was nice seeing how excited and giddy you were when talking about stuff and being caring about other creatives

dude so wholesome and inspiring to see you talk anything game related especially Fallout related

I agree that Vault Tec didn't start the war but were planning to. Other than Barb sending her daughter to a birthday party when the war was kicking off, Mr. House was at that meeting where Barb announced the plan. In New Vegas, House mentions how he miscalculated and the bombs dropped before he was ready with the laser defence system and the platinum chip. How could he have miscalculated if he was involved with Vault Tec's plan? My bet is that Vault Tec were beaten to the punch, hence why House was caught surprised and Barb's daughter was at the party

Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on the full season, I was going to ask if you'd make a video on this! I'm really impressed and surprised by the TV show paying so much tribute towards the franchise, from all over the games, but still being willing to take risks and make waves in the timeline. It makes me feel optimistic about the future of the franchise and what they'd be willing to do with stories branching off from here. Thanks again Tim, love the videos and so happy to see your brain-child done justice and shown all the love it deserves.

I like how you said you have to figure the show out. I have never played a fallout game and I immediately wanted to know everything so I bought all the games without looking anything up. The mystery and wanting to know what power armor was is what pulled me in and now I'm obsessed with this world.

I almost pissed myself laughing at the water guy. Peak Fallout NPC

It must be so surreal to watch something you and a team of other great minds created over 25 years ago come to the screen. Tim, I hope you get a cameo in season 2!

I'm glad you enjoyed it Tim, I really liked your point about the unreliable narrator I agree and think they'll probably lean into it more. One of my favorite parts that made me laugh pretty hard was when Thaddeus unloaded his 10mm at Lucy and Maximus and completely missed. Felt like a totally classic fallout moment, he should have put more points into Small Guns.

Very interesting point about Vault-Tec nuking first. It definitely never says explicitly in the text of the show that they actually did it. I think that's very deliberate on the part of the writers and that they're going to subvert a few expectations in the coming seasons. Also, as someone who only ever played (and loved) Fallout 1 and 2, the show definitely felt like Fallout to me and I'm so happy to see that Tim agrees. Seeing the world come to life like this decades later is thrilling enough for an old fan so I can imagine how exciting and fulfilling it us for Tim.

Ghoul's wife is not CEO, it's not her decision when to drop bombs. Todd explained that "The Fall of Shady Sands" is not equal to nuking it, two separate events.

Season two has been announced

Finally finished the show and I am blown away. I cannot wait to see what is next. I adored how they captured the tonal balance so perfectly.

Thanks Tim, I am glad your creation is getting the spotlight it deserves. I appreciate all your work.

Nice catch on her daughter. It's possible she didn't order the nukes. There's the lore that makes it unclear who launched them but it's possible Valt-Tec set things up but maybe a trigger happy operator launched them. In any case Season 2 has been confirmed.

It’s funny you mention how much you liked the random encounter with the guy who drunk Lucy’s water. I remember telling my son after that scene was over that I could totally see that scene playing out in the video game. The actor definitely nailed the demeanor and attitude of a Fallout NPC and the dialogue was spot on. Also thank you so much for all of your hard work. Fallout gave me countless hours of fun when I was a teenager and is still my favorite.

Hi Tim, I love your videos. They are always a great way to spend some time throughout my day

You look great Tim, don’t kid yourself! and shoutout to you for mentioning Nuka Break!

*Eric Estrada, yeah, I recognized him as well in episode 7. I was like, wait a minute, I know that guy from CHiPs. 😂👍

The thing that got me the most about the show recreating the feeling of the games was that Lucy and Maximus each felt like different takes on how a player character could go through a Fallout game's choices. More than that, however, Maximus really felt like how it felt for me to TRY and play a real jerk of a character only for it to actually be extremely difficult to keep it up without falling into doing the right thing

Tim, what do you think about the "trivialization" of nuclear bombing in modern Fallout? Post-nuclear settings have always felt "nuclear-free", in which technology has been set back so much that nuclear bombs must seem like just horror stories from the past. But starting with New Vegas, nuclear bombing on populated areas returned to the Fallout setting (yes, I remember that in F1 there was a nuclear warhead, but it was optional and was used against the main villain and his army of mutants). Bethesda even made a nuclear explosion part of the "fun and energetic" Fallout 76 trailer. And now bombs have been dropped in TV show. When you were designing the setting, did you have a goal to highlight the dangers of nuclear weapons and provide some sort of warning? Or was nothing like this planned, and people using atomic weapons against other people AFTER a nuclear war is a natural part of the dark side of the setting (in the style of "humanity will not learn any lessons even after a nuclear war?")?

Fantastic discussion, love your insights! Very happy to hear that you're onboard with the show.

"popping off the top of my esophagus" I need to use this lmao

yeah Erik Estrada and Fred Armisen (as the fiddle obsessed guy) were great cameos.

Bard's Tale Construction set in the background. Man that takes me back....

Yes I knew that you would be happy with this because it does remind me of the Original Fallout 1 and 2 that you help / actually created along with the fantastic team at Black Isle

Wait is this THE Tim Cain? * reads channel description* You sir are a legend. 😊

There was definitely some exposition, but it's good that they hid it enough for you not to notice. For example, in the first episodes while the brotherhood scribes are in class they talk about the purpose of the brotherhood.

First of all, I'm proud to say that my first pc game I ever bought with what little money I collected was Fallout 1 before I even got into high school. I was, and still am, a huge fan of the universe you and your team created. It shaped the kind of wacky dark humor I've developed and adore. Fallout 2 became my favorite of the two when I was able to get my hands on it. I remember when I jumped for joy with my friend when we saw the teaser trailer for Fallout 3 for the first time; my fiance was there, too, and she loves to tell that story. My mind was blown with the writing and attention to detail with New Vegas -my forever favorite of the entire series. I've played Tactics, but never far enough to finish it. Someday... I say all of this to give context to what I'll say next: I loved the Amazon Fallout series, immensely! --Warning: Spoilers in the following -- I can see where people would be confused with the chalkboard timeline, given the lack of context and full date for the bomb, but I didn't even blink at that. As Lucy walked around that classroom of Vault 4, I had so much nostalgia, so many memories of saving a young Tandi and talking with Aradesh in 1, commiserating with an elderly Tandi in 2 about the state of the NCR after her eventual death, and the tales of corruption and needless conquests of President Kimball and Shady Sands Congress leading the NCR into a steep decline in New Vegas. I remembered all of that, and I could only nod my head as I saw that crater, and the drawn explosion on the board. It all fit too well, and the words "War never changes..." ran through my head. Sure, there are questions that I'd like to see answered in the second season. What chems are in the vials? Is it something that was marketed by certain corrupt NCR backed doctors as "a cure for ferals" that, in actuality, made sure that the withdrawal effects sped up the feral process? Was it an attempt to sidestep the NCR laws in place that protected ghouls? That's my theory, at least. I loved every single Pre-War scene, and I'm wanting to see more of that! The Vault-tec meeting was absolutely delectable! My fiance and I couldn't help seeing how Robert House gave noncommittal after noncommittal while advancing the conversation with the adroit charisma befitting the character, and I cannot wait to see if he pops up again in season 2. :Video Idea Request: As for a request for you; would you consider making a video about more of your story theories with the next season? What do you think the Brotherhood of Steel will do with the cold fusion tech? What do you propose Norm is going to do, now that he's stuck with "Bud's Buds"? What other factions do you feel may come in to focus, next? Followers of the Apocalypse?

Hi, Tim. I didn't realize you had a youtube channel. I'm a long time Fallout fan, since the original game. I know you haven't been involved with the franchise in a long time but I still wanted to thank you for all the work that you did with the IP. The Fallout franchise is one of my favorite game franchises of all time, particularly the pre-Bethesda games, so thank you for helping to create it. On the subject of Vault-Tec dropping the bombs, I totally agree and have been saying basically the same thing. They talked about it, and may have even been planning to, but given that Cooper's wife was on the board deciding that stuff, there's no way she'd have let her daughter be anywhere but with her on the day VT was going to start a nuclear war. Furthermore, there have been unfinished vaults either directly seen or mentioned in terminal entries and such in the games over the years, at least two of them in Fallout 4, which is another piece of evidence that VT didn't drop the first nuke because they weren't yet ready to do it. At this point, we still don't know who launched first. We see the bombs landing in LA which might, at first glance, make it seem like China attacked first, but those could have been retaliatory for the US bombing China first. Unless it was blasted on the news somehow, "THIS JUST IN, WHITE HOUSE OFFICIALS HAVE INFORMED US HERE AT THE NEWS STATION THAT WE HAVE LAUNCHED NUKES AT CHINA. HOLD ONTO YOUR BUTTS," your average Joe citizen wouldn't know the US was launching nukes at China.

So happy you liked it Tim. I loved seeing you at the event with Todd. Fallout is really being enjoyed by the world now in all it's forms and it started with you. Thank you once more for that world to play around in.

I don’t know if you will see this but, thank you Tim and your team for Fallout 1. I played it for the first time during the pandemic and I just adored it. One of my most memorable video game moments is when I tried and failed to fix Necropolis’s water pump. And it was heartbreaking because I already knew exactly what the consequences were. So thank you and everyone at Interplay who worked on Fallout 1.

Just found your channel, thank you for giving us this beautiful franchise

Can't believe I haven't stumbled upon your channel until now. You got very interesting knowledge and content about what's it like being game developer. I learned a lot from each video. It used to be a dream of mine to work within the gaming industry, especially about handling mechanics and user interfaces but I realized very early on that I totally lack the programming talent.

I like to imagine what Fallout would look like today if Fallout 2 chose the Master's Ending as canon.

You and your team must be so proud of the work you did that your IP survived to go mainstream idk if it has hit that state yet but that moment when you know they get it and this is amazing must feel so good.

I think that Vault Tec uploaded the launch codes to PAM in preparation but without the intention of launching so soon. However, the robot calculated poorly and pre-empted the strike

Came from Alanah! Loved your review! I wasnt very familiar with the games before watching the series, I have to agree there is a bit of a bump like you mentioned for those of us experiencing this world for the first time! But thankfully I just asked my youtube peeps to point me in the right direction lol. Fallout fans are very helpful, I find!

There's beauty in all of this. Now you get to be a fan too. I can only imagine how awesome that is or feels.

Happy to let you know that as of yesterday season 2 is confirmed by amazon. Although, seeing how much praise it was getting, it seemed inevitable. Glad you liked the show, I do too!

What about Shady Sands being moved to L.A. where the Boneyard is supposed to be? That's the main thing bugging me.

With the success of Baldurs Gate 3 id kill to see a Remake of Fallout 1. Seeing vault 13 and 15 with the later idea of vault tec being more than it appeared on the surface would be interesting, ive always wondered what the experiments would have been in Vault 15

You know, it's a pretty good feeling to know that Tim Cain and I share similar perspectives and feelings about Fallout, and how he seems to take the thought out of my brain and into youtube videos. Makes me feel good that I am at least on the same page of understanding, with most people I feel. I know I cant be alone in feeling this way

I've seen some people theorize that the 2277 date for Shady Sands isn't actually when it was nuked but when the survivors consider "the beginning of the end" to be. IIRC, it's some time during the Brotherhood War and NCR's expansion into the Mojave. If the show is going for a non-NCR canon ending for FNV (which the ending does seem to point towards), then it could make some sense.

I liked your explanation of the three characters being different ways to approach playing the game. I never thought of it quite like that.

that scene on ep 1 when the Prydwen shows up, oh my goodness, i had the chills, the gregorian chant humming, the emotional feeling of how the brotherhood of steel are on a crusade, and the flashback of being rescued when he touches the power armor has to be my fav scene.

This show got my non gamer wife into the Fallout games lmao she’s obsessed with the universe after picking my brain for a bit and wants to experience the series. For me there were so many “I’ve been there” moments like the Yoa Guai going after Titus. I was rolling.

I think my favorite episode was 4, where Lucy is brought to the Super Duper Mart. A story was being told there and you didn’t have it completely spelled out. The show kept making me go “I would play this game” and that means they did it right. As a fan of the show, I did love how it didn’t over saturate with lore drops. We easily could’ve had the Master and Bone Yard history dropped, but instead they decided to focus on the elements important to telling this season’s story. I’m excited to see what is brought up next season

I’m so glad I found your channel! Thank you so much for this world that you created. I still play five of the games to this day. ❤❤❤

Hey Tim, I am curious about what code patterns you consider being the most essential and foundational to programming games and particularly RPGs?

It's amazing to see you excited and giddy about the show, regardless of what other people may think about it.

Would you consider doing a cameo in future seasons of the TV show if the creators would offer it to you? Maybe together with Leonard as scientists in the background. Or maybe for a oneliner.

Wow, i just came from a video from a year ago and thank you for the microphone change. A world of a difference.

Thanks for being fun! I loved the show. I enjoyed watching you talk about it. Kudos.

As for the date of shady sands getting nuked: The chalkboard in vault 4 dates the "Fall of Shady Sands" to 2277, but there is an arrow between that and the mushroom cloud. It notably does not date the mushroom cloud. So the Fall of Shady Sands could refer to another event that predates the bomb by potentially several years.

Still the biggest question is "how did master miss vaults 4 and 31-33 that aren't even hidden under a mountain?" This and complete lack of supermutants in the area they make the most sense feels wrong to me.

Thanks Tim! A breath of fresh air to watch and listen to you. My sister has never played or seen Fallout and told me she loves the show. Has me and some of my group text playing Fallout games again. Got one playing 3, and I picked up on New Vegas cause I get a Gandolf moment here and there when revisiting older games in general. "I have no memory of this place." and having fun! :)

Awesome video! This felt like Fallout big time. I loved the subtle easter eggs about the water chip and how it was freaking everyone out when the tech was telling them about it haha. This show really sets the bar very high for future shows and movies revolving around video games.

I see a lot of people talking about the destruction of Shady Sands and the date, but no one talks about them moving Shady Sands 100 miles south to the ruins of Los Angeles. To me that goes against stablished lore much more than the nuke.

Love your rambles, Tim! Glad you made this video efficient for people without enough time for the whole video, though!

I think my "midichlorians" with this whole thing is bottle caps, it just seems woefully impractical to continue using them, and it just feels like they're being used only because they're iconic, which reminds me of Fallout brotherhood of steel and the bawls bottlecaps

The thing I think, with that bump there to make it harder to get into it, is that the story itself and Lucy as the main character is sort of us in many ways, bringing us along to "figure it out" just as she needs to (and of course we get more information than she does, but the point is it helps with not feeling quite as lost I reckon, because the main character is right there with you). Thank you for yet another insightful video!

Thank you, Tim for giving us so many great memories and stories that keep on giving!

Glad to see someone that has been there before explain it. Things have to change a little bit and we have seen lots of controversy about lore changes. I’m guessing they have an idea and kind of knew a season 2 would be coming so they put it in to get ppl talking then it went in the wrong direction so they had to step in and say hey it’s still cannon just wait and you will see how it works out. If there was no season 2 we would need some explaining

I'd pay money to hear you ramble Tim. Keep them coming

Hey Tim, if you were to cameo on the fallout show, what kind or what specific character would you want to play from the fallout universe?