OK, i will do my best to explain the difference... and why the no palm is more important to teach youth, than adults or kids with enough strength to shoot. The reason we dont want the palm on the ball, is more to enforce good habits.. the reason we dont want the palm on there, is because it breeds inefficiency.. Also, the Pros, are on a different level, because of the sheer volume of practice you take, you end up practicing the other type of shots. the finger tip control gives a better control on release.. And if you have to use palm, then u use it to get control of the ball, as you gather for your shot. So instead of catch, gather, bring ball up and shoot. We cut all that out, and bring the ball directly to your shot pocket, in that whole phase, you can palm the ball, but from the point up to your release, the ball should be in finger-tips control, and held rather tightly. The pro's all swear by this, (p,s i played pro ball in Europe for 8 years, and coach as well) but the reason we need the finger tip control, is because when you go up for a shot, and you get bumped or there is contact, having the ball in the palm can affect the ball ( i know u said that the left is there to hold the ball, which is true... but, the strength you use in your left hand to hold the ball tightly, the more your right tries to compensate for that.. so the palm shoot becomes woefully inconsistent.. because your having to know adjust mid air, to the bump you received while gather for your shot.. when you have the ball griped tight with finger tip control, you can jump knowing even if you get bumped, you can still release the shot with a high level of accuracy. Again, i think the know palm thing, inst more about whats easiest for the kid/or person to learn, its just whats best for you as a basketball players, that way you learn the right technique once, and not to separate styles, which could end up stunting you when you strength does develop, or your hands grow, or you get a growth spurt.. btw, i dont have big hands and i use no palm in my teaching. Ive coached both styles, with palm and with finger tip control. In my classes, we sometimes get kids who havnt played at all, and kids who have played but werent good enough to make the team. the kids with zero experience all get the finger tip shot, and with the other kids, some have played to long with the palm technique, so i choose not to switch them. All the kids with the palm technique are my best shooters till about x mas.. but after xmas, almost all my kids with the finger release have caught up and by the end of the year, the positions are reversed... both arent wrong.. per say, but one leads to better path to elite status. Hope i helped with my two cents.. :) great debate material Greetings

I agree with a lot of this, but with younger players, the difference I've found is based on the individual's hand and grip strength. Recently, I moved one player from fingertip only to palm as her shooting style directly parallels Curry's. I made they change because one day, when directly trying to show her proper finger hold, I noticed she couldn't clasp tightly. Instead of putting total emphasis on building hand strength, (which is part of her exercises), I opted to have her cradle the ball at the release. The accuracy of her shot went up by thirty percent. Before, she would have some wild misses. Now, those are gone and replaced by "good" misses i.e things that can be tweaked in-game. Grip strength is now one of my first player tests.

Hey man, I've personally noticed that a lot of the bigger effective shooters from range, even not as deep as 3's, most of them shoot with a high release point and a lot of behind/overhead motion, probably a large chunk of them having modeled their shots to a Dirk Nowitzki. Thoughts?

this is the point where your only 3 year playing basketball comes to wrong conclusions and that is the limit that you can reach by just watching other people play on videos... some of your conclusions were on point i cannot say.. but now you are just talking nonsense... have you ever tried to pull up from dribble? to shoot from screens? in full speed to catch ball and go into shot etc... well if you pick up ball with palm and not with finger tips, you will see what is going to happen...at the end if you don't see where is the problem.. ball on fingertips gives you that extra power in shot.. try it...

Scot Shot Basketball you can push the ball with your palm and flick with your wrist with the ball rolling off your fingers, you can also push with your fingers and flick with your wrist letting the ball roll off your fingers. If you push with your fingers it will not let you relax your wrist as much, pushing with your palm allows you to relax your wrist more allowing a better flick and roll. Think of doing pushups on your finger tips vs your palms. A lot of players push the ball with their fingertips when they shoot floaters. However, I believe most players use a combination of palm and finger control due to the size of the ball. Think of throwing a baseball straight up in a basketball shooting form with just your palm and then flicking at the top vs holding the ball on your fingertips and doing the same thing. You have more control over the baseball when you use your finger tips but the ball is smaller. There is benefits to both, but why not utilize your whole hand to control the ball.

Ya its weird

J.Jordan8 yes thats right dont listen to this video men it destroy players if you shoot with just you palm you are inconsistent the point here is you cant stop the ball to touch you palm but before you shoot the ball you are transfering it to you fingertips

listen there is no right way to shoot, I played lower devisions in Europe and coaches always tried to change my shot cos i palm the ball before release, finally this one coach let me shoot the way i want and shot 47% from 3 in the next 2 seasons so...if no palm works for you shoot like that, if palming works for you shoot with palming the ball, you always have to incorporate techniques with what works for you and i hope you find success, btw im 6'6 with small hands.

Deyan T. Thanks man, I didn’t want to say that I was right, I just felt that palming the ball (spreading your fingers and leaving space between your hand and the ball) was so much more comfortable and I really can’t understand how people find putting your palm on the ball when shooting comfortable. Thanks for the advice. I wish I was 6’6

just keep practicing and perfecting your form and i hope you'll make it

what league do you play in

NepDaStep Dude makes it rain but doesn't understand his own shot 😂

Jonathan Paspula He not gonna give away his Dagger shooting skill advice Lmaoo

There’s no advice, it’s just putting up 1000 shots at the gym every day

Actually, I think he understands his shot, in a sense, but its probably really hard to explain 🤔 can't easily teach greatness

i think he does the no palm but only sometimes 🤔

My main point is it ALWAYS transfers to the tip of the fingers anyway - the palm has nothing to do with the release. I’d also disagree that no palm is ideal technique - just look at Steph and Klay. Both palm shooters with very different techniques otherwise. How can it be ideal if several of the GOAT shooters don’t follow it? Either way, appreciate that you think about things and come back with reasoned comments 👍🏼

If that same technique is used by almost all of the greatest shooters ever it should certainly be emulated, shouldn't it?

Kamrin Murphy I train a 4th/5th grade team. We work more on set points and release points. Do a lot of hand work...heavy gloves, grip excercise...precisely to build strength in fingers. Helps in ball control in general

Kamrin Murphy any form can work...we just want to train correctly

Christopher Horn Damn sounds like a serious team, I wish them well!

Romans 10:9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. dd

I do have a few more theories involving elbow angle, head positioning, and end of game shooting, but they are minor. If you ever want to brainstorm, please reach out. I love this stuff

This dude dont know what hes talkin about even mj said to keep the ball on your fingertips

same brah I'm surprised no one thoughg of this

Melvin 2x 😂

Melvin 2x shaq made multiple

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This is very true, everyone has their own preference on how they shoot it's all different for everyone.

its because he bends his knees prior and only dips while most players dip and bend knees at the same time which causes herky jerky movements.

I wouldn't use this video when coaching your kid, you may end up hurting his/her shot.

"this is an overexaggeration used by coaches to get their point across". Agreed, but then you look how this exaggerated advice transfers to students of the game, ala 2:24 with a very unnatural exaggerated grip, and it is clear that the advice the way it is presented is ambiguous and often downright damaging.

You nailed that one, all those things are spot when you are pulling up ball its always closer and closer to the hoop, and if you grip it with palms that means that it need to go backwards so you need extra force to apply on shot, and I'd like to add one more thing you add one more variable and that is timing(position of ball relative to fingertips from which you start release motion)

actually one motion uses palm, and two motion uses fingers

Are you shooting the ball at a shallow angle? That's the only way I can see you releasing the ball at your mid-fingers. If that's the case, I'd recommend having a higher release point in your shot, and try to give your shot more of an arc to it, so it forces you to use your finger-tips.

+AJ Ace A-N yes, actually. but I'm not saying i have a problem with palming, I'm saying I've noticed that thats what happens when I've done it in the past. and I have raised my set point slightly

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Problem is about 99% of people shoot with some part of their palm touching the basketball. Its just a bad template

Saving it for a milestone... either 50k or 100k subs. Leaning towards 100k

Scot Shot Basketball subs are important I see

V- Card shouldn’t even be a debate Steve said himself curry is the most skill player he has ever seen

V- Card TBH it's cirry

V- Card Curry by far. Nash was an efficient three point shooter on low volume. Curry has the range, efficiency, and volume.

IRUNoflike Naruto the most skilled player of all time is Allen Iverson and no one else

TheCao Defense? Post moves? Three point shot? Footwork? Efficiency? No?

So basically everything touches the ball evenly expect where the rest of the Palm starts dipping

best example ever is shawn marion. reggie miller had bad hand placement.. kidd gilchrist has a famously bad form as well

If it works for you it works for you. My point is it shouldn’t be taught as a universal technique