Imagine how much noise they had to be making on a regular basis for things to escalate to this point

10 ppl in a 1 bedroom apartment running and playing all day and night over top of you would drive a person mad .

I had a similar dispute over noise with a neighbor downstairs not too long ago. The leasing office was no help. I called the police once when the verbal assault almost became physical. I got even worse quickly, I moved before the lease ended. You can't take stuff like this for granted. Mental illness is widespread.

Dude was already on 10 when he walked up those stairs & cat pulling scissors ✂️ made things volatile!!

I hate living in apartments BECAUSE THE PEOPLE ABOVE YOU DONT GIVE AF

That’s why I don’t give my son a basketball hoop he wanted in his room cause bouncing that ball would be crazy for whoever live downstairs at the end of the day just be considerate

Don't lie, he looked plenty aggressive with that pair of scissors

About 3 or 4 years ago, a couple moved upstairs with a toddler. The kid would run from 8 pm- 3 am, I worked at 4 am. I notified the office to avoid confrontation, they got a simple noise warning. After that they started stomping their heels for HOURS on end and had the kid run more on purpose. After about a week of avoiding it I knocked on their door and addressed their intentional stomping. The mother said "We don't like people bad mouthing us. She's a kid. If you don't like it, put ear plugs in." I notified the office and we had a meeting. They started arguing with management and ended up evicted. There's a lot of parents that let their kids run amok and unchecked and use "they're kids" as justification for shitty/lazy parenting, and if you address it they become defensive and nasty. Obviously killing is not the way to go, but I feel bad for people that have to move or endure inconsiderate neighbors. It's unfortunate, but I can't say I'm surprised by this case

That's what their disrespect gets them and they're not being honest about everything.

Our mom would pop us in the back of the head and say "stop walkin Soo Hard Boy!" We would've never gotten shot.

I live with noisy nasty tenants above me now. It’s pure hell and frustrating. They have no type of consideration I want them to leave so bad pray for me

The lesson to be learned here is... Turn the damn volume down. Nobody wants to hear that racket

Things are quiet now.

Somebody tell this woman that scissors can be deemed a weapon

This is SAD, but stealing a person's peace is a dangerous business. I lived next door to neighbors who blasted music. I didn't dislike them, I used it for fuel to buy my first home. I didn't want to be comfortable in that duplex. But I KNEW that once the new people moved it he wouldn't last. He was kicked out less than 6 months after I bought my house. You can't steal people's peace like it's not a crime.

Most people who live in apartment buildings have no respect for their neighbors, and most of them are bullies, but it is sad people had to die.

Noisy neighbours can drive you up the wall to be honest 😢

I have a noisy neighbor who gets everything paid by the government. One night i begged her nicely to be quite so i could rest from a hard day of work. She made it even louder when i called 911, after the police left who asked her nicely to have some respect. She deliberately bang stuff on the floor for the whole night! Be respectful and considerate to people who live below you. The floors are nade with wood so the thud is deafening. Sometimes i literally feel like i am going crazy. And not everyone can just buy a house or move. There need to be criminal charges of terrorism against people who deliberately make deafening noise to offend their neighbors.

I bet they will keep the noise down now

This is why you need to be respectful to your neighbors because you never know when someone will get sick of your crap and snap.

I understand i got 10 ppl running over my head constantly shit im atp smh ppl dont have no respect

Always respect your neighbors, be ready to apologize if the noise isn’t that bad , don’t come out threatening with a scissor, it’s not smart

This is so sad, RIP Father and Son

Having a loud neighbor can drive you crazy. People don't go extreme over one or two nights of loud music . He was triggered.

You can't sleep they don't care. All day and all night making noise. 24 hours.

Sorry lady but your husband had a pair of scissors in his hand he intended to be used as a weapon.

Respect your neighbors.

Sec 8 housing are dangerous

Her husband came out with a pair of scissors in his hand and tried to intimidate the suspect. And that was well before he pulled out a gun and shot him….

This incident brought tears to my eyes. 30 yrs ago I was this guy 6'5 built like a brick. I was very intimidating,and I used my size to get up in peoples faces to watch them back down. My wife sometimes tried to stop me but I ignored her as usual,and pushed her away. My life almost ended 30 yrs ago when I was approached by 3 men armed with firearms while I was leaving a supermarket with my 5 yr old son. I tried to pretend that I didn't know who this guy was,but he knew who I was. I remembered doing the exact same thing that Mr. Mathurin did. He stated to me that my son saved my life that day. Please Men,don't try to intimidate with size,and anger.listen to your wife,and walk away.

I COMPLETLY UNDERSTAND wanting the noise to STOP. I finally moved to get away from my downstairs neighbor...dog barking at all hours, kid screaming at all hours, loud music, the parents yelling at each other, turning the parking lot into an auto repair. The new place is WORSE.

When neighbors live to disrupt everyone around them.only now are they acting all quiet and nice.

I did not just hear her saying my husband has no gun no weapon...... lady your husband had a ✂ in his hand

So how many humans lived in that apartment???? I would be very upset also

Had a neighbor with one child living upstairs from me and that one kid made noise and carried on like there were 8 kids up there. This was a two family house. The owner of the house suggested we switch. I was okay with that but my boyfriend at the time leaned towards moving so we moved. Its not your house, its not your property. You live among others in a community, be considerate and respectful of others. Not condoning the violence cause that was just wrong. Hopefully landlords will take note.

RIP to the father & son. It's a tragedy. If anyone here has ever had noisy neighbors above your head who would not quit no matter what .. then you know that this is very possible to do if your not centered. It can literally drive you crazy 😔 Sad.

This is exactly why I left apartment living. And I don’t miss it. Noisy neighbors were driving me crazy too. And these people are not being honest. They’re not innocent in this.

so if the children were the noise makers for so long, i guess now they understand the reason why they told them to take down the noise. this is unfortunate, but we need to start respecting people when you live so close to eachother. another lesson, when 2 men are talking let them talk, dont be on the side yapping your mouth like this wife did, this can escalate the argument. just saying.

This is so sad. I don’t think noise is worth taking someone’s life. I also don’t believe people with more than one child should live in an apartment complex unless they are on the 1st floor.

When hanging around raggedy apartments backfires

That's scary cause i just yesterday banged on my upstairs neighbors door explaining to them to stop stomping banging noise on my ceiling, they woke me up out of my sleep. It's very painful and disturbing noises. Your body jumps and vibrates everytime you hear sudden heavy 🪨 bangs above your head. It's mentally draining. And it really nobody's fault but the building. The construction and insulation in the walls are too thin too old. I wish neighbors can mediate together and convince the landlord to reconstruct the insulation in walls to tune out sound better. But its usually the neighbors that make the noises not caring too much about the complaint, they just think somebody's bother them. And the landlord not caring to get involved. So you don't know, that man was dealing with that cheap apartment noises for so long, he came to his limit. And when that father banged noise back, that's when that man snapped. And im pretty sure with this expensive housing market, he couldn't afford to move elsewhere. Bad situation. And it's usually apartments that originally had carpet floors, but they changed it to hard wood floors which make noise impact sounds louder. Carpets and rugs help absorb sound impacts. And im not a violent person, i don't like fighting or arguing, but those bangs from upstairs neighbors be making you wanna run upstairs and slap somebody upside their heads but he really shot them. That's a unfortunate sad situation. Neighbors need learn to live together separately. You don't have to like each other, but you signed yourself into a building, you live with others period. Just be considered of others around you. Don't act like you living in the building by yourself, making all that noise, go move in a house, but you can't to move elsewhere either, so be modest of other neighbors around you. One thing helps, communication.

May they rest in peace, but the neighbor wanted peace also. Some of them just let their kids run and jump around the house like animals. They should have stopped the noise and respected others. This is an apartment, not your own house.

She didn’t think her kids wear running around,, she didn’t think her husband argue and had a pair of scissors..she didn’t think after her neighbor paid his rent, he might want some peace…BTW how many bedrooms did she have with 4 young children? May be too many people in one apartment

If you watch video when they was interviewing the wife after it happened she lied and said her husband didn't have a weapon this was going on for years with this family making noise and not having consideration for their Neighbors and the people who lived under them this man was talking to the wife calmly and wasn't being aggressive at all when the husband came out and threatened him with the scissors that's when the man pulled his gun and killed him not saying what he did was right in any way but everyone has a breaking point and this man was feed up with him and his family being disrespect by these people who obviously didn't have any respect or consideration for the people they were living above and the neighbors they were living around. You reap what you sow & every action is gonna cause a reaction.

I'm having the same problem. Bish upstairs over me be moving furniture in the middle of the night drilling child stomping and 311 is full of shit. This is the end result when nothing is done abt complaints

Noise from neighbors almost brings you violence and in this case it did.

I experienced this living in a private house. Omg its absolutely annoying loud noise and you call 311 the cops come but they turn the music off and back on. They dont even give fines anymore. I had to write the man a letter in Spanish to tell him my walls are vibrating two houses down from him. I was petrified to confront him. Sad situation

Hold up how many people in that apartment?

I mean. If you are in an apartment building, try to keep quiet. You might have a maniac living around you.

wait a minute: the suspect shooter was threatened with a pair of scissors.. seems justified to protect yourself..

I had that issue with my upstairs neighbors. I worked from home, and beginning around 9am, the children would run up and down the apartment, you can hear them jumping from furniture onto the floor, it was insane. I wrote 2 nice notes introducing myself, just explaining that I work from home, and it's hard to focus with the running back and forth all day. It continued until i finally knocked on the door and was ready to explode. All of a sudden, they became the victims. We never actually got into anything heated, but it could easily happen. Glad to say that they moved, and I purchased a home. I couldn't deal with that happening again.

Living in a crowded, noisy apartment complex is no joke, especially if you have noisy tenants living above or by the side of your unit. I dealt with for many years before saving up and buying a house.

The Parents of Small Children Never “Hear” the Noise Because they have learned to Tune-It-Out. Unfortunately, the Neighbors especially the ones below have to endure the Constant Noise. This is a Tragedy but if the Father did threaten the Shooter with Scissors than Self-Defense could be argued. Moreover, the Loss of Peace due to the Constant Noise could be a Temporary Insanity defense.

Consideration for others is a lost grace.

for four years you making noise robbing the neighbor of their peace. What the HELL you expect? You drove him to madness.

I like how everyone is getting the blame but the management company who allowed the family to stay there 4 years. My opinion that’s the real villain.

As an ex landlord, this was always a nightmare situation. Apartments are not a playground. This wasn't the best way to handle it but I can see where people snap.

It’s truly sad that the neighbor resorted to ending lives. Living across a bar I know it could be nerve wracking to deal with noise non stop to the point one begins to envision some desperate thoughts but to kill and end up in an even louder place is out of the question.

your husband have no weapon ?? We saw the scissors in the video ma'am !

I saw the full clip via twitter and I must say it was absolutely horrifying to see how it all went down...the husband did come out and seemed to have threatened the man with scissors as to have him back off but the moment the wife pulled the husband to de-escalate the situation the man shot him with his back turned and the young son while he was trying to run away (sadly towards the shooter)....the most appalling part of all this is that he didnt just stop at the shooting HE WITH FULL INTENTION executed both son and father giving them no chance at survival....

So he had scissors threaten somebody, got shot… and now she says he had no weapon… I seen video, dad escalated it when he went in the house and grabbed scissors. That is a weapon ma’am. I’m sorry for your loss over something senseless, but you can’t act like your husband didn’t put scissors to the guys neck/face.

He gave them 4 years to quiet down. Sounds like a reasonable amount of time to me. Obviously they thought they could keep ignoring the complaint and doing whatever they wanted. Now they’ll act like poor innocent victims.

I am really sorry about this.....but noise pollution is a very serious matter!! Your excuse that you had 4 children does not cut it. Children listen to parents.....teach your kids to be respectful citizens. This happened for 4 years!! If they wanted to stop being noisy they would have done so.

RIP! It is WORST when you live in an HOA! I never lived in an HOA before, but I have heard stories from people who lived in an HOA say that they've had to deal with similar issues like this one.

Imagine living for years with the a noisy neighbor, loud music, kid jumping on floor, parents doesn't care about other neighbor complaint, and this is what you got.

So y u guys couldn't find a way to be as quiet and calm as you are speaking now.....u all were inconsiderate to that neighbours feelings....

Let’s be real, can you call someone who put scissors to a man’s neck a victim??

It's a shame police are not allowed to do anything about noise pollution.

The father according to the neighbor ring camera ain't so innocent he came out the house very aggressive. holding a pair of scissors in his hands walking up to the neighbor who was standing by the stairs .The mother also came out cursing the neighbors. WHY AGGRAVATE A NEIGHBOR WHO IS ALREADY AGGRAVATED BECAUSE YOUR FAMILY IS DISTURBING HIM JUST SAY SIR IM SORRY I WILL TRY AND KEEP IT DOWN FURTHER IF YOU ARE NOISY REQUEST A BOTTOM FLOOR AFTER ALL YES YOU ARE PAYING YOUR RENT BUT SO IS THE OTHER PERSON THAT IS LIVING BENEATH YOU WHO WANTS PEACE OF MIND.

Can’t disrupt people’s peace, especially in this world when you can’t wait to get home and relax to find out you can’t relax…

I have that same problem with my neighbor above me. And complains does not work. Wee hours in the morning they parading/ pacing back and forth with shoes on they pounding. Many of them shows total disregard for their neighbors.

That’s the difference between the culture today, where respect for others comes in, I had 4 children in an apartment, I had quiet activities, and kept the t.v. or radio at respectable levels. I lived in NYC and know of neighbors who wouldn’t accept being told to lower the noise level. There isn’t any respect for others in society today. We live in a selfish, disregard for others…. And this is what children learn.

So many small issues turn too the worse... Many people ready too snap

How can you be arguing for 4 years about noise. What that man did was wrong but I think there was a lot of lack of accountability and obvious aggression from the victims as well. This is something that could've been avoided but they refused to back down and obviously never addressed the noise nuisance and both sides lost too much.

Im living in a nightmare now of a neighbor above me with 3 kids. She called cops on me because I addressed the noise several times. The hate I have in my spirit for this woman I pray about daily because I do want to harm her. I work very hard and pay rent too and also have 2 children i tell to mind their feet constantly because we're above someone. People think because they moved to a higher floor to disregard the families below them. Im sorry this happened but as a mom you should have been controlling your kids' energy and giving them different outlets to release it. Rip to them, but i do understand the neighbor snapping. Enough is enough, buy a house if you want to make noise all day and night. That simple.

Sometimes there’s a high price to pay for being inconsiderate and self centered. He did the wrong thing but he also asked you all to stop being so loud for years. It was your abject inconsideration and defiance in the face of his righteous indignation at your behavior that pushed him to pass metal through the bodies of your loved ones until they could no longer sustain life. You closed the door on them as he fired into their bodies. He is to blame, but your inconsiderate actions are what brought him to his disgusting insanity.

Probably shouldn't be disrespectful to your neighbors!

I'm so sorry for your loss!! 😢😢😢 I pray for you and your family. ❤❤

I totally understand. Had one above me who actually encouraged her kids to make noise. Luckily, they moved but it was pure hell for months. These folks know the cops cannot do anything. Shooting was not the solution, but disrespect will meet up with disrespect.

mom seems calm as hell

You come from a long day of work trying to get some rest and you’re home, but you cannot because too many kids running up and down. If you have kids don’t live on the upstairs floor live downstairs.

Not saying it's right and condolences to the family but this stuff is bound to happen when neighbors don't have any consideration for the other people that's in their building or below and next to them in apartments having a little respect for other people goes a long way

why bring out scissors ......🤔😑

Live n a house with no Neighbors around😢

Just because you have small kids, doesn't mean you allow them to disturb another person's peace. Remember you are sharing space.

Its obvious the father was a bully. The wife was pulling him away from the neighbors but the husband was in raged to attack with the scissors. He escalated the situation. If the father behaved in such manner over a noise complained I can imagined what the downstairs neighbors went threw with them.

My condolences to the family. I've dealt with noisy neighbors. You don't kill them. You move

I have lived below people with young kids who didn’t care and it’s hell on earth. There is NO excuse for any kind of violence let alone murder however.

The footage of the shooting is absolute terror. People are really cold blooded. Y’all have to move tact. Stop playing tough. There’s people who’s literally TOUGHER. Demonic type. Lower ur ego. Apologize!!! Walk away!!!! It’s not being a punk it’s being able to live another day for your family! The dad in the video putting on sneakers adrenaline on a 100. The suspect pacing can’t wait to use his gun. Y’all have to be careful. Ppl out here heartless

THEY WAS SUPPOSE TO BE RESPECTFUL AND CEASE THE NOISE NOT BEING ALL LOUD...PUTTING ALL THE KIDS IN CHECK.. TEACHING THEM COMMON CURTESY AND RESPECT (HAD THEY DID THAT THOSE 2 VICTIMS WOULD BE ALIVE)

My deepest condolences go out to all of the loved ones. 🤲🏽🖤

This situation is really scary. My Wife always tells about a neighbour who always comes knocking and complaining that she should reduce the music coming from our apartment. We have no sound system. No television, just a family of 3 with a 3 months baby who rarely cries. This Man looks mentally unstable. He has even convinced her to come hear the noise coming from our flat from his room and she went with him. This left me furious. In as much as people can be noisy, no one should be getting shot

Hearing noise constantly over you is annoying, 311 nor the landlord result a solution to help the tenant. People going through life situations, or have to go to work early and consistent noise and pleading for peace from your neighbors can be the result of unnecessary tragic moments

All he had to do is put in a transfer to another building 😔 Rest In Paradise To Both.

This whole situation could've been avoided if neighbors were more respectful to each other. Having children does not give you a (FREE PASS) on making a bunch of noise and blasting music all day. People want to come home to some peace and quiet.

They threatened him, poor guy, had the right to defend himself

After 4 years... I guess he just got tired of trying to reason and plead with them. Also, the father was described as big, muscular and intimidating by family friend. 🤔

You’re not telling the whole truth, because the husband went into the house and came back out with a pair of scissors, which can clearly be seen on the cameras located on the ceiling opposite of their apartments and over the stairs. You can clearly see them arguing you clearly see the man go back into his home to put on his shirt, but when he came back out, he clearly had a pair of scissors in his hand. Which still is no reason to bring a large gun to someone’s door unless you intend to use it. The graphic video was on IG

YOU MAKE ALL THAT NOISE THEN HAVE THE NERVE TO PULL OUT SCISSORS JUSTICE WAS SERVED 💯💯💯

I wish there was a way to deal with bad neighbors. Police need a task force or something. Somebody gotta do something. Bad neighbors are a nightmare