Evolution | Women's Gymnastics 1936-2021

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Vanessa's Fanedits

2 жыл бұрын

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Hope you enjoy todays Edit. I created this evolution video for a school project in German and thought why not translate it to English and share it with all of you?! :)
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@valentinabenivegna2765
@valentinabenivegna2765 4 күн бұрын
I love the concept of this video and the tidbits of information you've added but skipping the '80s (and '90s) does a great disservice to the whole idea. The '80s especially is the most innovative, creative and fun decade to watch! There's a huge difference between the gymnastics of the '70s and of the '80s. They still had artistry, form and beautiful coreophraphies on floor and beam but they also had big skills on all events, some of which are now banned because they're too dangerous. The vault was forever changed by Yurchenko, on bars they had so many incredibly new skills that are still used today (the Shaposhnikova for example) on top of beautifully weird mounts and dismounts, on floor they had back to back tumbling, Silivas did a double double for the first time, and the coreos were always so fun to watch. They had so much originality that is now almost completely lost. You can't have a video on the evolution of gymnastics without the '80s.
@anneiden9946
@anneiden9946 17 күн бұрын
GYMNASTICS BACK IN THE 70'S WAS MORE GRACEFUL AND MORE BEAUTIFUL.
@kathrynboseman5249
@kathrynboseman5249 13 күн бұрын
It was also harder to evaluate and vulnerable to personal bias by judges...both intentional and intentional.
@aae1972
@aae1972 12 күн бұрын
And boring. Sorry, but Simone is vastly more impressive than Nadia.
@albaluciabezerracavalcante654
@albaluciabezerracavalcante654 11 күн бұрын
​@@aae1972SIMONE FORÇA BRUTA E FLEXIBILIDADE.
@quisnessness
@quisnessness 24 күн бұрын
In modern gymnastics it feels like the difficulty matters more than execution so we see more awkward looking or messy routines. If execution mattered more than difficulty it might be more visually appealing with fewer wobbles and step outs and pauses to focus between elements as athletes wouldn't push themselves to do acrobatics they couldn't do perfectly. But instead it's more about pushing the boundaries and developing physical strength. It's still an amazing sport and I'm in awe of the power of today's gymnasts but it feels like they've taken the "artistic" out of "artistic gymnastics".
@robertvirnig638
@robertvirnig638 12 күн бұрын
I agree that the balance between execution and difficulty needs to be adjusted. As it is Simone can do insanely difficult routines that she never executes cleanly. She often makes massive blunders and still easily gets the highest score. If the execution was more highly valued she would have to dial back her acrobatics a bit and we would get a more beautiful routine albeit less extreme. This is an overcorrection of the 10 point system where difficulty didn't matter as long as certain required elements were done and provided no incentive for more impressive stunts.
@alinemartins4362
@alinemartins4362 9 күн бұрын
It still have the artistic side. Modern gymnastics it is way more for women now, not kids
@gaethawley7320
@gaethawley7320 8 күн бұрын
The
@cindylw5
@cindylw5 3 күн бұрын
Thank you for this compilation
@KatieLHall-fy1hw
@KatieLHall-fy1hw 2 күн бұрын
The 60s was lovely to watch, but my fav goes to my girl Olga Korbut in the 70s! She was wonderful!!
@helenf.7221
@helenf.7221 14 күн бұрын
The 1965 beam routine is gorgeous. She’s so talented
@ioioioioio265
@ioioioioio265 4 күн бұрын
Vero.
@Kristenm28
@Kristenm28 20 күн бұрын
1972 was my favorite to watch.
@sallyhay3369
@sallyhay3369 16 күн бұрын
The amazing skills of Olga Korbut. I loved watching her - most especially on the asymmetric bars - she was incredible!
@dariapoklemba2150
@dariapoklemba2150 2 күн бұрын
​@@sallyhay3369my 69.yo sister still has her 1972 olga korbut posters in her workout room jn her house. She works out to Olga's music routines.
@taniavv
@taniavv 13 сағат бұрын
Amazing. Humans have fantastic bodies. Thank you for compiling this very interesting video
@DEIDREROG
@DEIDREROG 14 күн бұрын
I can tell by the comments that people would love for you to do a longer video and cover more years, as well as please do give us the names of the people who you include. I found this to be fascinating and I love the Irish music you used.
@tomorrocat
@tomorrocat Ай бұрын
I love watching old style beam and bar!!!
@Squawk24
@Squawk24 18 күн бұрын
Cutting out entire decades misses a bunch of changes. For a retrospective, that's an odd choice.
@sonialatorre6959
@sonialatorre6959 16 күн бұрын
Le ginnaste di una volta avessero l attrezzatura che c'è oggi sarebbero tutte olimpioniche...oggi manca la grazia...
@sadclown444
@sadclown444 Күн бұрын
Back then, it was beautiful, artistic, dance-life, graceful, and elegant. Now it's fast and powerful and very robotic.
@idkhi9028
@idkhi9028 4 ай бұрын
I wish connections on beam were flowy like in the 60s more often, at least for the dance steps. I feel like it's all very robotic and blocky even on floors dance steps 😢 Like can we get more flowy steps and connections and that? For example the floor video from 65, the dancing is actual dancing not just some hand and arm movements that are super robotic and don't express much like I see VERY often (not always but probably the large majority of routines I see)
@VanessasFanedits
@VanessasFanedits 3 ай бұрын
That were my thoughts too. But I guess I understand why that changed because the skills are so much harder you can't just get up on the beam and do them all, you need a certain preparing for it moment, which gives you that pause ... But yes I actually liked watching the older beams videos more than today's.
@Vermontist1
@Vermontist1 2 ай бұрын
It changed because Compulsories are gone, so the coaches don't even bother to have their athletes take dance class.
@rg1whiteywins598
@rg1whiteywins598 17 күн бұрын
With you on that one.
@alinemartins4362
@alinemartins4362 9 күн бұрын
I don't agree with you. Back then were more like just ballet and we can see that in others places. Nowadays it's not robotic, it's more interesting and fun. In the past gymnastics were girls vibe, now it's for women!!
@briseboy
@briseboy 8 күн бұрын
First decade of 2000s was ok. When male muscle appeared in the top US female, it had become unwatchable. Those of us familiar with decades of women in all sports + body building never looked like that, it was clear that at least microdosing with anabolic steroids had become involved. Who knows? Perhaps the PEDs also affect brains sufficiently to eliminate even the desire for flowing from move to move.
@luxurylifela2068
@luxurylifela2068 16 күн бұрын
This is so interesting. It almost feels like two different sports. I know nothing about gymnastics and don’t really have the terminology to describe it. All I can say is the 60 and 70s gymnasts were so flexible and elegant. They really had style and grace. I can see in the 2000s where the gymnasts seem to really combine the two. By the 2020s, their athletic skill is amazing. I always wondered, having only seen modern gymnastics, why they bother with what I see as the “dance” elements because it usually looks so robotic and ridiculous on these athletes. The music is usually irrelevant too because it could be any song because the movements don’t look timed to it at all. Now it makes sense that those elements are a holdover from when gymnastics looked very different. I’m torn on what to think. I truly respect the athleticism and power of today’s gymnasts but I love how beautiful the old style gymnasts look performing their routines as well. They’re actually combining dance elements meaningfully with acrobatic skills. I guess if you’re into the beauty side, there’s rhythmic gymnastics but part of me would like to see there be something in the middle that combines artistry along with athletics, and then a form more like men’s that would cut out all of the dancing stuff and let the woman just compete. I think there are some great gymnasts today that would shine if they didn’t have to add some of those dance elements. They don’t look good doing it and it takes away from their skill. We also have some gymnasts that are just so graceful and flowy that lack the power of some of the top gymnasts but as an untrained eye, their routines actually look better and more put together to me. It would be nice if each group had a place to shine.
@emeraldcoastgardensfl7323
@emeraldcoastgardensfl7323 11 күн бұрын
Loved the whole presentation and choice of music. Excellent collection and narrative 💯⭐
@jj-if6it
@jj-if6it 2 күн бұрын
It's so funny watching the original vaults. They literally just did a jump and pose haha
@ramirodelagarma6884
@ramirodelagarma6884 2 күн бұрын
Me parece extraño mostrar la evolución de la gimnasia y no tener imágenes de Nadia Comăneci.
@TaurusWitch29
@TaurusWitch29 13 күн бұрын
The waving arms all jerkily on beam always killed me 😂 And the floor, hardly anyone ever had movements to the music that flowed together, like back in the 90s before and after, era. It was choppy and didnt go with a beat or flow. Performance definitely lost value. Tumbling is awesome, but just moving arms and spinning around does not a gymnast make lol
@silvanaabarcarborrego6757
@silvanaabarcarborrego6757 13 күн бұрын
Pra mim Olga Korbut sempre será a melhor
@Heatherleigh1414
@Heatherleigh1414 14 күн бұрын
HOW AMAZING WOULD IT BE to see our gymnasts today perform the routines from the beginning times..???!!!💜
@kathrynboseman5249
@kathrynboseman5249 13 күн бұрын
Meh, I appreciat the old stuff for the role it played in the evolution of gymnastics. It provokes fond memories of my youth. It is not; however, particularly pleasant to watch. It's like watching movies that don't stand the test of time.
@janysmahoney1271
@janysmahoney1271 Күн бұрын
1965 gymnast; whose she? Shes wonderful
@Вова_Анна
@Вова_Анна 2 ай бұрын
Прекрасный ролик! Спасибо!!!👍❤️
@kamint2258
@kamint2258 16 күн бұрын
コルブトの段違い平行棒は今見ても凄い!!😮 バイルスの床は超高速で、見る者を圧倒!! ちなみに、コマネチがいない😅 シリバス、シシュノワ、ボギンスカヤ、オノディ、リューキンもいない😂
@gulutaalan8845
@gulutaalan8845 14 күн бұрын
Interesting how NONE of the famous Romanian girls, despite having given the name to at least a third of the figures, was considered representative for this collection.
@janysmahoney1271
@janysmahoney1271 Күн бұрын
The hardest discipline; Nadia Cominech was wonderful talented an her seemingless flow was unmatched. Artist need t 'dance more' instead of just flipping
@sylviadrees3761
@sylviadrees3761 15 күн бұрын
Where is Nadja Comaneci?
@beafranco7603
@beafranco7603 10 күн бұрын
AGREED👍!! Nadia was the GREATEST of them all!!
@georginamedinareyes3261
@georginamedinareyes3261 2 ай бұрын
Las mejores escuelas son y serán la escuela Rusa y Rumana. Ahora ya es mas acrobacia y músculos. Se ha perdido la elegancia, plasticidad y el ballet.
@user-rj7hc6gs5u
@user-rj7hc6gs5u 4 күн бұрын
Полное соответствие девизу: быстрее, выше, сильнее. И более рискованно, травматично и опасно соответственно.
@arboreea1312
@arboreea1312 2 ай бұрын
The beam surface is wider: it got 10 cm instead 8!
@Warthog333
@Warthog333 4 күн бұрын
Have to wonder why it took so long to adopt the vault TABLE. Shoulda replaced the horse with the table in the 80s.
@mariopanebianco2485
@mariopanebianco2485 3 ай бұрын
What's the title of the song that you can hear during exercices at the beam?Thanks
@denig2000able
@denig2000able 2 ай бұрын
The opening is an Irish reel from Lord of the Dance show starts with Riverdance then goes to another Irish ballad...Dance dance wherever you may be, I am the Lord of the Dance
@denig2000able
@denig2000able 2 ай бұрын
The full background music is from Lord of the Dance....Irish reels, jigs and hornpipes.
@azizosous3566
@azizosous3566 2 жыл бұрын
🙏
@aewutube
@aewutube 16 сағат бұрын
It’s lost the “art”. It’s called the women’s artistic event
@Jim1971a
@Jim1971a 3 ай бұрын
Why is the video quality substantially worse in 2000 than in 1972?
@JG-sm2uw
@JG-sm2uw 10 күн бұрын
Because it went from film to digital
@KayoEll
@KayoEll 17 күн бұрын
I love how they cherry-picked their examples to make their point. The beam routine for 2021 was probably the worst possible example. Nothing makes it look less flowing than a fall! Everyone says, "I wish it hadn't gotten such high difficulty and maintained the artistry." 😅 1) People want to evolve their sport. Is the racecar driver going to race with more flair? No! He's going to drive faster. The gymnasts it going to go higher and add more flips, twists, and straighten their body position. 2) Artistry comes with mastery. Simone's Tripple Double is SO much prettier now that she's mastered it. It is starting to take on artistry.
@aureliadumitriu2198
@aureliadumitriu2198 22 сағат бұрын
Have you taken stock of the evolution of gymnastics, and Romania, which had so much to say in this discipline, nothing, not a single gymnast? Nadia Comaneci, Andreea Raducan, Daniela Silivas, Catalina Ponor who brought a significant contribution to gymnastics, no picture!!! It is clear that this balance has absolutely no value!
@karaamundson3964
@karaamundson3964 15 күн бұрын
Ì really don't understand how you could skip the entire '50s (and even '48), focus on 1972 vs groundbreaking 1976, and ignore the '80s & '90s? All nations contributed amazing skills, especially Ukraine with Nadia in 1976. Also, Women's Floor was first introduced in 1954. Whose axe are you out to grind?
@jj-if6it
@jj-if6it 2 күн бұрын
lol calm down
@fedrabenetatos2784
@fedrabenetatos2784 8 күн бұрын
Nowadays gymnasts do nothing compared to the gymnasts in 70s & 80s . The level of difficulty was way much harder
@Vermontist1
@Vermontist1 2 ай бұрын
Evolution to devolution.
@QueenE31
@QueenE31 6 күн бұрын
All gymnastics is now, is tumbling. Floor routines don’t show any actual gymnastics. Tumbling is NOT gymnastics. Biles is just a glorified tumbler. She has little to no grace or elegance. She can’t point her toes, has poor form and can’t perform any type of dance element. Give me Shannon Miller or Dominique Dawes any day.
@meinolfwestig9463
@meinolfwestig9463 3 күн бұрын
Music got irritating, stopped watching half way.
@yvessaint5936
@yvessaint5936 Ай бұрын
1:55 who is that elegant girl, it's so joyful to watch her on the beam, so elegant... anyway, we have now so much difficulties with poor execution like this 5:29 - is that elegant, is that balance, is that artistic? - i wouldn't say
@arboreea1312
@arboreea1312 2 ай бұрын
Why didn't you write the name of the gymnasts! Very unpolite of you!
@RP-vy8st
@RP-vy8st 16 күн бұрын
Why didnt they show Shannon Miller on beam?
@britt5753
@britt5753 16 күн бұрын
Personally I love watching the power and athleticism the women have today. I wish they could forego the weird little dance gestures and go for the really difficult moves. Those are breathtaking. If I want dance moves, I'll watch ballet, which is also breathtaking in another way. I think it's this leftover tradition of what gymnastics used to be that doesn't reflect the unbelievable acrobatics they can pull off now.
@zerozero0183
@zerozero0183 11 күн бұрын
Agree absolutely.
@briseboy
@briseboy 8 күн бұрын
There were more challenging moves in 80-890s which were banned. If one desires to watch females as they have become through enhancing drugs, one can find excellent posing in female bodybuilding. I regard rhythmic gymnastics as more artistic than "artistic" gymnastics.
@serialmigrant
@serialmigrant 7 күн бұрын
The thing is, women can do more athletic acrobatic skills today due to advances in the equipment coupled with biomecánics understanding from coaches. It's hard to learn athletic acrobatic tricks if you can risk killing yourself trying them out on crappy wood equipment and bad mats...
@serialmigrant
@serialmigrant 7 күн бұрын
​@@briseboythere isn't Drug enhancement in gymnastics... It makes them too heavy ...
@KatieLHall-fy1hw
@KatieLHall-fy1hw 2 күн бұрын
I disagree. We have separate events for tumbling alone, and trampoline if you want to see flips. Gymnastics seems like it should be a mix, otherwise it is straight tumbling as 3/4 women’s events rely on it. At least the men have 6, and even they have artistic elements they have to hit
@alexionescu98
@alexionescu98 5 күн бұрын
Where is our Nadia - at uneven bar, the first perfect 10 in the history of OG at this sport? How could anyone forget the Romanian NADIA COMANECI? Unbelievable! And sad (for you)... Really!
@undskyldmig4748
@undskyldmig4748 12 күн бұрын
65 год самый красивый, остальное извращение
@arboreea1312
@arboreea1312 2 ай бұрын
I think those abdomen hits on the low bar had consequences on women health. I think they could have issues to carry babies after retired.
@mallagallabumbum8209
@mallagallabumbum8209 5 күн бұрын
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