lets talk about the fact that even Tory voters found the Tory Party abhorrent. this is THEIR fault.

No, the Tories lost it by failing to anything for which they were given a big majority in 2019.

The Conservatives lost it because they’re not Conservative. Stop blaming Reform.

Ridiculous! The Tories gave it to them on a platter and only have themselves to blame!

Multiculturalism leads to multi-tribalism. This is only the start of the fragmentation.

Reform UK 🇬🇧 all the way!

How can Starmer have a mandate when 80% of the electorate didn’t vote for him.

You only have to look at the percentages and you can see it wasn't a labour win. It was 18% of the conservative vote going to Reform, Lib Dems etc. Labour got 2% of the tory voters but gained so much because of people abandoning the tories for nearly everyone but Labour 😂😂😂

Congrats to Farage. He did the same, but for the Tories, in 2019. What a winner. 😂😂

Not having that if there was no Farage millions would have stayed at home, including me !

Imho this happened in the USA with Trump in 2020, I wrote this comment for this parish then, look at point 4: Technically Trump should have won if it wasn't for: 1. Him foulmouthing mail-in voting, which probably cost him quite a few votes instead of the opposite 2. Him not handling the pandemic just a little bit better, showing just one tiny snippet of compassion, which purely politically obviously would have been good practice 3. Just the McCain insults probably cost him überconservative Arizona and other veteran-military votes That's all self-inflicted and would have been utterly avoidable, then there's this largely overseen supreme irony: 4. Small government 'pro freedom' libertarian 3d candidate Jorgensen nibbled away 1-1,5-2% from the Trump vote in nearly every state and flipped several key states for Biden, including Wisconsin, Georgia and Pennsylvania. Leftie Nader and Green Jill Stein btw did the same to Gore and Clinton. Biden always was going to win the popular vote, but this chain of results was close to divine intervention. Friday morning after a first look at the numbers I already reached the conclusion aired here. Btw Times Radio in the end works for that Bond villain grade horrible Murdoch who's bringing the West to the brink.

in a poll, 36% of Reform voters said they would have voted for the Tories if Reform hadn't stood candidates. That means that 64% of Reform voters would not have voted for the Tories under any circumstances. It's ridiculously simplistic to lump the Tory and reform votes together and give it any meaning. The election outcome closely matched the pre-Farage polling predictions. Labour won the election for themselves. Go back to peddling your tripe on Sky.

There's this weird idea that only the conservative and Reform vote can be fused together. Labour? Lib Dems? Greens? Add those together and you have a massive mandate.

I thought this at first but if you look at the post-election surveys and the voting data, Labour would have won the election anyway, Reform or no Reform.

Even if the Conservatives win every Reform UK voter back or vice versa. They would be facing a bloc of voters that outnumber them and have shown their willingness to vote tactically.

REFORM👊🏽 😎🇬🇧

Did Trev mention the Muslim vote?

It's impossible to be certain what would have happened without Reform. It's possible that former Conservative voters would have voted for other parties or perhaps not voted at all which would have caused an even lower turnout. Whilst it is a landslide in terms of seats, only 20 in every 100 people voted Labour, 40 in every 100 people did not vote for Labour (including 14 in every 100 people who voted Conservative) and 40 in every 100 people did not vote at all. That's not really a strong mandate.

Obviously true. More people voted Corbyn in 2019 than Starmer in 2024. Anyone who says differently is informed by media headlines only 😂

it's just not true, reform cost the tories 40 seats or so. Losing a vote to labour (or lib dem in those 70 odd seats) counts twice as much as a loss to reform

That was very funny and I did laugh with Trevor! Don’t worry Trev, you’re 150 yrs younger than Biden 😂

The leaders of Reform UK appear to be a Unified Cohesive Centre Right Political Force. And among them there appears to be no selfish interest in personal power grabbing.

people are entitled to vote for who they think will serve uk best, atm there is only 2 parties ever in the running, they do not make it easier for other parties to get a look in because voting system is unfair. Rome was not built in a day but labour needs their day because they need to enjoy it, they will be out big time in 5yrs, they are giving reform all the ammunition needed to make the public rise

jog on trev

Thank god Nigel and Reform were in the running, we finally have some common sense in parliament rather than the usual pantomime of Labour and Tories.

the truth of the matter is that people decide an election, BY VOTING. And actually Starmer only managed 35% of the votes cast. In what sense did he win?

Libdems got far LESS votes in 2024 than they had in many many elections since 1983 ,when they got far fewer seats. Libdems got less than half the vote share of the SDP in 1983, after all. This was not a Libdem revival, it was purely an electoral anomaly.

I do not agree. However if this was the case Farage is prone to doing this, he did it in 2019 when he stood his candidates down and helped ease the Tories back into power. That makes Farage a stooge for the ruling class no doubt about it.

Has Trevor Phillips done a constituency-by-constituency analysis? In how many seats was the Labour vote less than the combined Tory-Reform vote? (And even that is assuming that every person who vote for Reform would have voted Conservative if there had not been a Reform candidate.) The fact that Labour did not increase its overall share of the vote is not important. What is important is what happened in each constituency.

The Conservative and Reform vote was 1.2 million MORE than Labour for all those who can't count.

Braverman should join Reform!

As a lifelong tory voter I could not vote conservative in this election , they betrayed the voters I was not going to vote until Nigel Farage entered , because I would never vote Labour. So I was pleased to vote for Nigel and get him into parliament

Labour made themselves electable and targeted the bellwether constituencies, meaning they were extremely efficient with their vote share and ran a tight ship. It's not all down to the "Reform winds of Fortuna."

Well then Trevor if we just stick all the left from centre parties together and both the right from centre parties together, its quite clear who wins this and future elections.

James cleverly, please don't joke, they need someone who is way above his abilities.

Trevor, political analysts are so arrogant. The electorate does not map the political landscape as left or right - but wrong and right. It understands first past the post and so the wipe out was intended, the flirtation with minor parties is intended. Voting is situational who is to say that with PR we wouldn’t get the same result? Reform’s 4m votes were piled up in a small number of constituencies when the savvy Labour and LibDems focussed their efforts on winning individual races. I am in Liz Truss’ old seat we openly spoke to other voters agreeing to vote for anyone but Truss and we wiped out a 24,000 majority. We are not political analysts but we understand how our politics works.

Farage/Reform didn't win Labour the election - they made the Conservative loss worse than it would otherwise have been. The argument of many on the right, that the Conservatives need to go full Braverman, conveniently ignores the fact that the Conservatives lost a significant number of seats to the LDs in, broadly, more affluent areas. To voters who are socially quite liberal but broadly centre/right economically. People who are more likely to be net contributors to the state. Which puts them in quite stark contrast with the socially conservative, 'left behind' types.

Trevor has aged gracefully. I wonder whether the two party system will be upended.

Philip Gallie Tory MP Ayr say do not look gift horse in mouth politically. Labour party banked 412 seats UK general election in July 4 in England. SNP finished secondary hit 9 seats Art Bezrukavenko deliver it. Tories always leave mess up in England yes Thomas. Brilliant content.

What a bizarre take from Trevor on your last question… So diversity is crucial to talk about and is rammed down our throat at every opportunity daily. But, because in this instance it doesn’t suit the trend and wider narrative that Trevor and the media would usually insist we believe, we can disregard and laugh off this one? A shocking and infantile double standard.

Trevor do you know what Reform means ?? It means 'REFORM' !! As in not the same old, same old year after year of gradual enslavement and decay.

No one voted starmer in, tgey voted Sunak out.

Let Trevor eat his humble pie. Let’s add all constituencies where reform came second and give it to the conservatives plus all the reform one and we see what happens. But really how can someone say the public didn’t want change and didn’t know what change is. U.K. has only two parties who can form a government and if people didn’t want labour they would have said so as they did in 2019 and all previous election as far as 2010. We are happy to give the conservatives 100 of our MPs and still have a majority.

They were already losing before Farage came, he just complicated the picture

LIEBOUR just won this election without even trying to promote themselves

It's probably the only time I will ever agree with Phillips.

Big up the fascists if you like - but be careful what you wish for. A brief perusal of history tells a story

Labour won, Trevor. The electorate stayed home for the Conservatives and there was tactical voting to remove the Conservatives. The analysis you presented doesn't hold up in the presence of tactical voting. Mr. Farage and team may have benefitted from Conservative voters and others who wanted the Conservatives gone from their constituency. England won the World Cup in the 1960s. They outscored Germany. Labour have more seats. Deal with it.😊

Thank you for helping the Tories to stay in Fairyland.

Labour had a poor election. 500,000 fewer people voted for them this time around than in 2019. 3,000,000 fewer people voted for them than in 2017. But if Reform scoop up 20% of the Tory vote in most seats then Labour - despite not/barely improving their percentage - come over the top. Wales is a great example of this. Labour's percentage decreased wildly yet their seat count increased because the Tory vote collapsed.

Why is Trevor Phillips giving his political opinion in interviews when he works as an anchor for Sky news who is responsible for interviewing politicians and holding them to account. This destroys his credibility in regards to perceived impartiality.

Carol Monaghan afford her house Western Isles she have to cutback Thomas. She waste of time politically she not you Thomas or anyone in Glasgow West.

Copium is heavy dosage.

Glasgow West we wanted that seat badly Thomas for British Labour party England London it ours again. Patrick lenart Austrian he socialist yes he happy about it Thomas.

What biggest threat Reform UK party Thomas. Are better than Tories yes.

Farage split the vote, yes. If you add Reform and the conservative vote, share together. The conservatives would have won the election.

ReformUK had to be created. Long way to go.

With so little time it’s important to say things twice .

Trevor. He could have swung the 2019 election to Corbyn as well. There’s no new insight here from You.

Gives no examples of tom hardwood comments. Get rid of him

It’s not how you got there it’s being there that matters

James Cleverly Lol what opposition. He says I'm for labour but I think Cleverly. That's the reason why not

Labour won because Cons didn't vote. This man is diversity gone wrong. Contradicts himself and still talking.. Does anybody cover politics in this country😊

Danny Kruger is the name you're looking for....

This is not true, the Tories won Labour the election, not Farage!!

I no longer watch sky because of this angry openly biased man. His recent interview with Farage was absolutely shameful. He is unprofessional & unable to hide his hatered. Additionally, reading through the comments here people don't agree with Philips. Shame on Spectator for giving this ACIST a platform.

"Starmer got less votes than Corbyn in 2017" Trev will get into trouble if he's not careful

Philips is a bitter old Tory. Typical Sky. Even without Reform running Labour would still have had a majority of 80 to 100 seats. Philips is just bitter that the Tories have a competitor on their Right flank. Ha ha ha

I'm a Reform voter. Don't blame me for Labour. Blame the utterly USELESS tories for their disfunction, coupled with the Labour voters. In the next five years, if and when the country is on its knees, I will blame these for destroying the country. BTW, I hope that I'm wrong and that Labour do not destroy the country. To be honest, it would be difficult for them to be any worse than the Tories.

If this is true, it's absolutely hilarious because Farage helped deliver a left- wing government. Serves the chancer right.

Utter nonsense Mr Phillips - the Conservatives lost the Conservatives the election simply by protracted gross incompetance . .

Sir and a posh accent doesn’t mean one is intelligent.

Think Trevor Phillips has matured since his Blairite days.....

Kemi Badenoch?

Yeah rights For Whites

phillips a simpleton reaching the immigrant viewers

Starmer is pathetic

What a about libdems

It could be said that Reform’s trajectory in terms of votes was significant and decimated the Conservative Party, BUT at the end of the day, and because of the current voting system, Starmer is PM not ‘Fakage’. Thank God

You can't say that Reform voters would have voted Tory. They were sick of the Tories. Labour would still have won if Reform didn't exist.

Absolutely

Thank you Trevor for the truth of your opinion.😢

Labour won on merit. If Farage had not run, it still would have won, as Reform took votes from them as well as the Tories.

boomer take

Trevor talks sense.

Stop crying

Every time i hear this guy he just comes across as a miserable tory slash some farage lover in him. Labour couod have won every seat hed still be slagging them off like a bitter boring fool 🙄.

The fact is that Starmer made it possible for Labour to win. Five years ago the party was writtrn off but Starmer had the courage to think the impossible,that the mountain could be overcome. Of course the Tories helped by shooting themselves in the foot but Starmer's achievement shouldn't be brushed aside. Next the party was whipped into line and the necessary seats were pinpointed to be won while allowing the Lib/Debs to quietly take the lead in those places where they were best suited to push the Tories aside. Nothing was left to chance and this clamour over percentage of the vote is missing the woods for the trees, a complete rout of the Tory ranks.

Absolute rubish. Labour won fair and clear. Waffles nonesense

We've got to stop giving Farage more credit than he deserves. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

How lovely to hear someone talking about politics and being honest and thoughtful.

Labour would have won despite Reform. This is a dumb argument.

Reform UKKK are not as important as they think they are!

i dont always like trevor philips but hes got it 100% right.-