Farewell to Air Conception

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@sexonlegs666
@sexonlegs666 5 жыл бұрын
NICE VIDEO... Nice to see people be professional, positive, instead of scare, exaggerated claims, and false claims... KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
@aviator
@aviator 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sam! This is our primary goal!
@SkylerCosta
@SkylerCosta 5 жыл бұрын
The idea of anyone being tied to one manufacturer really is not looking out for the customer. Allowing the customer to try out and figure out the best fit for them. While hopefully creating additional competition. Bravo Zulu
@rlkinser
@rlkinser 5 жыл бұрын
KUDOS to you guys! What a refreshing bit of transparency. Thanks for all the work you guys do for the sport.
@justbrentbenson5419
@justbrentbenson5419 5 жыл бұрын
I respect your honesty -- it reflects integrity and has dispelled any doubts I have had about your support for my Tornado. God Bless and God speed!!!
@RockinRobbins13
@RockinRobbins13 5 жыл бұрын
I'd still fly an AC tomorrow, and it's because of the work you guys did for their company. It's great to see you moving forward while maintaining your support for the customers you already have. It's always much easier to sell existing customers new stuff because you did right by them than it is to dredge up a brand new batch of customers. I like the way you do business.
@SteveShovlar
@SteveShovlar 5 жыл бұрын
Great moving to Parajet. Pure quality, albeit not cheap. But you get what you pay for and Parajet are top quality.
@Les__Mack
@Les__Mack 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making me proud. This sport is awesome, we all need to support each other. Beautiful video!
@TheCryptKeeper8
@TheCryptKeeper8 5 жыл бұрын
your unbiased self critisisms, honesty and realistic direct and transparent approach to yourself and to your viewers is why you'll never lose my subscription.
@guyford7103
@guyford7103 5 жыл бұрын
Just gained a new customer! Thank you for keeping us informed.
@richarddubose7623
@richarddubose7623 5 жыл бұрын
Had a great time hanging out with y'all today. Can't wait to start training. AVIATQR PARAMOTOR RULES.
@edwardkie380
@edwardkie380 5 жыл бұрын
Eric thank you for showing this today ... I wish I could have seen you when I was there in Florida back in January... Keep going strong ... Ed in Phoenix writes
@Vicariously...I
@Vicariously...I 5 жыл бұрын
You guys are the shining example of how the paramotor retail/training community should be. Thank you and I look forward to training with you and purchasing gear in the future.
@mitcherwinphotos
@mitcherwinphotos 5 жыл бұрын
Good deal on still stocking the AC parts! Thank you for that and keeping your customer service as one of if not the best in the industry!
@glydrfreak
@glydrfreak 5 жыл бұрын
You’re such a good guy, Eric! Keep up the good work!
@David65702
@David65702 5 жыл бұрын
You seem like a straight up company breath of fresh air ...cool, I wish you the best of luck.
@joegarret6598
@joegarret6598 5 жыл бұрын
Classy! Congrats guys and best wishes in this new chapter.
@kevinpietsch7818
@kevinpietsch7818 5 жыл бұрын
Clever Title... Nicely communicated. Much respect!
@davidcrooks1752
@davidcrooks1752 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice explanation of what/why/when things are happening 👍 However ........... my wife wants to know when “Sheldon Cooper” became a spokesman for Aviator ........ don’t see it myself🤔. Onwards and upwards 👍👍
@darcynafe7821
@darcynafe7821 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Eric. Thanks for the explanation and your professionalism as a company.
@xheadrasta1799
@xheadrasta1799 5 жыл бұрын
I wish that other companies were as up front and classy as Aviator. Nice work Eric and Team!
@AndyRial
@AndyRial 4 жыл бұрын
AC must’ve stepped up their game. I ordered my Nitro on a Thursday and it arrived in Miami the following Thursday! Jan. 2020 🪂
@577buttfan
@577buttfan 5 жыл бұрын
Always liked parajet. Never flew an A.C. but I saw they had quite alot of issues especially with the engine.You guys did a great job with customer service on the A.C.!!
@EmilioMendiolaJr
@EmilioMendiolaJr 5 жыл бұрын
I'm just impressed on how engaging you are in your videos haha. So much professionalism that I hope other PPG influencers can improve on. Great work!
@roberteshelman5917
@roberteshelman5917 5 жыл бұрын
Regrettably, I didn't train at Aviator; however, it's nice to see your deep commitment to customer service and the dedication to your former student pilots. Great explanation, Eric.
@nitro200flyer3
@nitro200flyer3 5 жыл бұрын
Eric My friend I dont think you could have put it any better then you did and Today my warranty ran out on my Nitro LOL not to mention I'm grounded for at least 4 or 5 month due to surgery with no real guaranty that I will be able to get back in the air .But I'm betting I will. Thanks for this video nice to know you guys are still my goto for parts and service ..When I'm able to drive I plan on dropping in and check out all the new things you guys grow like weeds
@goldenlira1
@goldenlira1 5 жыл бұрын
You guys are a class act. Appreciate the transparency.
@hogey74
@hogey74 5 жыл бұрын
Mate I don't know you or anyone there personally but from the vids etc, I can tell you are gracious and positive. It's a good way to be in general but it also makes you a safer and smarter pilot for sure. Cheers.
@Robbo1966
@Robbo1966 3 жыл бұрын
Well said and totally agree
@Robbo1966
@Robbo1966 3 жыл бұрын
Total professionalism, buckets of positivity, great service, massive client base, you guys have nailed it, nice job. Shares?
@flyhighusa2523
@flyhighusa2523 5 жыл бұрын
Great video and explanation buddy. Proud of you!!
@paratour2016
@paratour2016 5 жыл бұрын
I have great respect for all the parties involved and I still love my Air Conception Nitro 200!😎
@segwaydave
@segwaydave 5 жыл бұрын
I received my nitro from Aviator in Dec of 2017. Still love it but it took months for me to receive it. It’s a solid motor in my opinion and glad to hear that the support is still available. Thanks Eric!
@lwrcM6A2DEA
@lwrcM6A2DEA 5 жыл бұрын
I bought a very low hour second hand Nitro from a gentleman who had a hard landing and injury. The unit was at Aviator PPG having the damage assessed at the time of purchase and Aviator received no commission or compensation in any way from the sale. They shipped the motor to me at the owners request and their involvement should have been finished at that point. Anytime I had questions or concerns about fixing the motor they were 110% there with genuine help and not some vague information or trying to find some way to profit from the situation. The point is....no matter what brand they decide to carry I believe Aviator PPG will do everything they can for you because its what is they way they are. It just so happens that it is also very good for business which makes it good for them and the consumer. My next purchase will be from Aviator because I believe they will always be there for their customers.
@TNUni167
@TNUni167 5 жыл бұрын
I wish Aviator PPG still sold Air Conception... I'm looking to buy a Tornado 280 and would love to buy it from them. I hope you guys repair your relationship with AC in the future. Love the professionalism and the service
@jumpleadsx2
@jumpleadsx2 5 жыл бұрын
Props to you for your positivity.
@PPGFlyr
@PPGFlyr 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Eric. Miss seeing Travis.
@justincole4556
@justincole4556 4 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the bigger product line
@kalef1234
@kalef1234 3 жыл бұрын
Epic. I look forward to giving you my money for a Maverick next year
@wiley0714
@wiley0714 5 жыл бұрын
I've had a fly products gold 130 unit for years. I just did the annual maintenance on it and outside of a fuse issue as I change the relay once I put the right fuse in it started right up just like it does every year. At the end of the day I think it comes down to engines and I think the Simonini is a hit. I admire design of Vittorazi, but if you're looking for an engine and the manufacturer package that's worked for over a decade I highly recommend fly products. I'm not affiliated with fly products and I'm not affiliated nor trained by Aviator...
@EvanRobinson85
@EvanRobinson85 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Eric!
@michaelkennedy2528
@michaelkennedy2528 5 жыл бұрын
Because of you sir, the sport in its entirety is better and safer.
@BlackGryph0n
@BlackGryph0n 5 жыл бұрын
Man, you guys just do it right. It's no wonder you've grown so much! You have totally earned your place on top! So much respect for you and your team!
@aaronhorn6849
@aaronhorn6849 5 жыл бұрын
Why is it soo hard to find people with your kind of ethics to do business with? I watched Woodys video on his damaged tornado and the guys and gals of APPG are a stand up group. Thank you.
@joec2015
@joec2015 5 жыл бұрын
Honor, integrity and a patriot too. If I ever get to fly it will be under your wing.
@trent9222
@trent9222 5 жыл бұрын
Digging that long sleeve aviator jersey
@leighleech8959
@leighleech8959 5 жыл бұрын
Parajet is the best and customer service is the best to the maverick is great bit of kit!
@jasonburns6411
@jasonburns6411 5 жыл бұрын
Any consideration of adding Scout to the lineup?
@pipperfect
@pipperfect 5 жыл бұрын
I don't tend to comment much on KZfaq stuff. However I've got to say that it's good to see such honesty & I like your refusal to get dragged down by the politics of the sport.
@aidizhang750
@aidizhang750 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Eric, We will be doing business in the near future. I am now presently in Hangzhou, China. I have been an English Teacher for Five years now! Many Chinese children are speaking english thanks to me. AH, i am ready to come home by this summer should arrive in the USA. I live in Orlando Florida, but this Tucker Gott dude got me interested in buying and going Paramotoring. When i get back i will be one of your Customers, peace out eddie! P.S. YES it's a small world, you are world wide Cool.
@aviator
@aviator 5 жыл бұрын
Nice to meet you Eddie! Looking forward to flying with you!
@JohnnyVegasStudio
@JohnnyVegasStudio 5 жыл бұрын
So does that mean that all the Alliance partners will retire any remaining AC gear and be using Parajet for training? Just wondering when that cut over is happening, if not already. Thx.
@jimmynoname4089
@jimmynoname4089 3 жыл бұрын
Hum. Im just now getting into this style of aviation and im thinking about picking up my gear from you guys
@aviator
@aviator 3 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Noname it would be an honor to have your business
@SkipHDP
@SkipHDP 5 жыл бұрын
You need to correct the link to your site (missing the "r")
@ReX-Ray
@ReX-Ray 5 жыл бұрын
WOW. 100% INTEGRITY. You guys really are the best. 👍
@Tommyflies
@Tommyflies 5 жыл бұрын
Farewell to AC.... I see what you did there... Nice vid✌️
@tbronson158
@tbronson158 5 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to ride thermals in a quad?
@fatboysflstbs
@fatboysflstbs 3 жыл бұрын
Oooo, your so good.
@guillaumebrn5876
@guillaumebrn5876 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agreed, very constructive! If you could please give me your advice on this : I already own an ULTRA 130, love it but am looking to switch to a paramotor enabling me to perform tandem launches. Hesitating between the Moster 185, Nitro 200 or Tornado 280. Am 185 pounds and my passengers will be between 130 (wife) and 185 (bros).
@aviator
@aviator 3 жыл бұрын
We use the Vittorazi for tandems with great success :)
@guillaumebrn5876
@guillaumebrn5876 3 жыл бұрын
@@aviator thank you for the feedback! Looking forward to visiting you guys in the US
@landlockedviking
@landlockedviking 5 жыл бұрын
Good stuff, para jets are awesome, just $$$
@CrimFerret
@CrimFerret 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this. I'd already seen the statement about it that came from Air Conception which is pretty much exactly what you said. I think they were maybe a little short sighted in their expectations. If they couldn't meet demand and couldn't add more manufacturing capacity in the near term, it actually would have made more sense to keep you as a seller and pick up another company if demand fell below what they could comfortably produce. I don't know what the actual real world weight difference is between the Nitro and Maverick is, but it can't be nearly as huge as the difference in fit and finish. The one AC product that would be nice if you could still sell are the Anti-Torque Lamells which, by all indications, work very well. I assume those are patented or you could just sell your own version.
@aviator
@aviator 5 жыл бұрын
Hey there Crim, the lamels are actually made by Virus and we still carry them!
@CrimFerret
@CrimFerret 5 жыл бұрын
@@aviator Oh cool!
@jamesrobinsonppg
@jamesrobinsonppg 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Eric. Are you going to be at Sun & Fun? I want to see everything that you have to offer in trikes. Hopefully, you'll have lots on display. I plan to purchase a trike soon. I'm particularly interested in the fly products vertigo trike with the moster 185 dual start. Thanks!
@aviator
@aviator 5 жыл бұрын
We will be there and I'll bring one!!
@jamesrobinsonppg
@jamesrobinsonppg 5 жыл бұрын
@@aviator Thank you!
@TheCorpseGames
@TheCorpseGames 5 жыл бұрын
Your link is broken in the description.
@StanBarankiewicz
@StanBarankiewicz 5 жыл бұрын
Eric, thanks for the awesome support and commitment from AviatorPPG!! Can't wait to visit again!
@tehJok3r001
@tehJok3r001 3 жыл бұрын
Where are all the older help videos on AC - I got an AC due to watching your videos - now that I have one the videos are all gone...do you still have them, can one still download or view them ?
@aviator
@aviator 3 жыл бұрын
aviatorppg.com/air-conception-videos
@tehJok3r001
@tehJok3r001 3 жыл бұрын
@@aviator You guys rock!!!! gve me advice pre-training and was rock solid now that I also fly :D training advice was great. If I ever manage to get to USA I want to visit
@aviator
@aviator 3 жыл бұрын
@@tehJok3r001 We'd love to meet you!
@samik83
@samik83 5 жыл бұрын
Did you delete the Nitro assembly video with Travis? Can't find it anymore on YT. Just getting my Nitro in a couple of weeks and was looking for it. Even though your not with AC anymore, please keep the videos. I'm sure they will be good info for new pilots.
@aviator
@aviator 5 жыл бұрын
aviatorppg.com/air-conception-videos :)
@samik83
@samik83 5 жыл бұрын
@@aviator Hey Thanks. Good info there. Covers pretty much everything I need to get started.....even if it's not the Travis video I was looking for :)
@fprintf
@fprintf 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe add Mako powered surfboards too, they'd go nicely on the local lakes... dodging the alligators!
@aviator
@aviator 5 жыл бұрын
Working on it!
@rhinemenezes7216
@rhinemenezes7216 5 жыл бұрын
Hey guys do you have a second hand tandem trike for sale? If you please let me know I would like to purchase.
@pintail120
@pintail120 5 жыл бұрын
By demanding exclusivity it demonstrates their insecurity, also exposes you to more risk, they should have welcomed the competition if they were confident in their product. Sad to see Vendors behave that way.
@pintail120
@pintail120 3 жыл бұрын
@@journeymanelectrician please point out how your spastic reply has anything to do with the original topic ?
@DreadPirateRoberts8P
@DreadPirateRoberts8P 5 жыл бұрын
Get a Parajet to Tucker, Woody, and Mark Huneycutt to review. They are all very highly regarded in the sport and their reviews will garner more attention to the brand because their opinions are very well-respected. I'd also really like to see them review a trike or quad.
@FatParamotorGuy
@FatParamotorGuy 5 жыл бұрын
I think TechnoFly have cut off their nose to spite their face. Change can be good, good luck with it all 👍
@Totej
@Totej 5 жыл бұрын
Aww I really love AC, Have one myself
@JacobMicah
@JacobMicah 5 жыл бұрын
I wish you would bring back Aceville D:
@iflyppg2309
@iflyppg2309 2 жыл бұрын
Fly Products rightfully belongs to Aerolight in Miami since 1988.
@MotoFlyGuy
@MotoFlyGuy 5 жыл бұрын
great news for current nitro owners.
@patrickmckowen2999
@patrickmckowen2999 5 жыл бұрын
On one hand AC said u were exclusive in US but they could not meet demand. When your customers suffer change has to be made or you get a bad reputation and business will decline. Smart move! Cheers
@WiltshireMan
@WiltshireMan 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think you will have any trouble dealing with Parajet. A good solid principally based company.
@goodguy9979
@goodguy9979 5 жыл бұрын
My take, the industry is starting to show some maturity. That means the level of play on the part of the manufactures gets better. In this case, better means customer support and satisfaction and one vendor couldn't keep up with the competition. We call it, business.
@shekarg3013
@shekarg3013 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Eric Farewell Why don't you continue vlogs in your channel We want to hear from you guys How is Aviator paramotor is going Stay safe stay healthy Everyone
@aviator
@aviator 4 жыл бұрын
We've been posting videos at least one every week or two!
@Linkman81
@Linkman81 5 жыл бұрын
Now... I'm anxious to see what people's opinions are about the overall durability of parajet vs fly. ugh... decisions.
@unit586
@unit586 5 жыл бұрын
I’m between the Scout or ParaJet
@fulks19
@fulks19 5 жыл бұрын
Well, you sold me on the AC several months ago. I am 71 and 190 pounds. I'm wanting to unload my 15 year old Fresh Breeze and get a MUCH lighter unit. I would at least like an electric start. I'll be looking forward to your Parajet Maverick reviews. What to do? Hmm
@aviator
@aviator 5 жыл бұрын
Lots of good options out there for lighter kit. My father is 71 years old as well. He's flying a Fly Products Dual Start on a trike (though he foot launches when the weather is good!)
@MatejRoder
@MatejRoder 5 жыл бұрын
What ybout SCOUT? You never speak about the scout machines.
@davecox900
@davecox900 5 жыл бұрын
Hi love this video honesty is always the best policy, i am new starter looking at getting in to learning and flying what would you recommend for me please, i am 55 years old consider myself fit, i work offshore in the oil and gas sector so have to pass a medical every year, i weigh in at 90 kgs, live in the uk but don’t mid traveling to learn Would you say try first and see if you like it then buy whats your thoughts please.
@aviator
@aviator 5 жыл бұрын
100% learn to fly first and then make a decision on what you want to fly... It allows you to make an experience based decision vs. a marketing based one :)
@canamm
@canamm 5 жыл бұрын
Well, it's too bad Air Conception decided to shoot themselves in the foot. I think they're making a big mistake by cutting ties with the best paramotor instruction company in the country.
@MrCPPG
@MrCPPG 5 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one that sees the irony here? A fare well video by Eric Farewell.
@NDav8tr
@NDav8tr 5 жыл бұрын
My Parajet Volution V2 was 79 pounds empty. 90 pounds with fuel with the polini I engine. I gave up trying to foot launch it and finally sold it.
@theflyingveteran6250
@theflyingveteran6250 5 жыл бұрын
The title is a bit of a double entendre. XD
@clayjones1933
@clayjones1933 5 жыл бұрын
Out of all the dirt bikes I’ve raced and all the 2 stroke engines I’ve seen air cooled and liquid cooled, I have never witnessed more engine problems until I gained an interest in paramotors! There’s NO EXCUSE for half the problems you hear see with peoples engines crapping out, parts breaking and many many other problems! It’s a simple 2 stroke engine which leads me to believe these engines are poorly designed or just made from crappy material!
@AV8R_1
@AV8R_1 5 жыл бұрын
Seems silly that AC would take a stance that if you aren’t selling their product exclusively that they don’t want you selling it at all. Better to sell a reduced amount of inventory than to sell NO inventory, but whatever. Seems like they shot themselves in the foot.
@leesmith483
@leesmith483 5 жыл бұрын
I found what Eric is saying in the beginning of this video to be a complete contradiction to my personal experience when shopping with Aviator in the fall of 2016. I was looking to get into the sport so I took a day off from work and visited Eric at his facility in Lake Wales, FL. I certainly have no ill will toward Eric, but it really bothers me to hear him say he doesn't talk smack and trash the competition like a lot of others do in the paramotor industry, because that's exactly what he did when trying to sell me his brand that day. When I mentioned another brand I had been researching, he went into great depths telling me how bad they were. I remember this so vividly and how it left such a bad taste in my mouth that nowadays when I see him at events, I always think of how unprofessional he presented himself and his business. Funny thing is, he's now selling the brand he had worked so hard trying to convince me was junk!
@MissMarinaCapri
@MissMarinaCapri 5 жыл бұрын
Lee Smith , He’s a salesman running a business for profit, what do you expect? (Typical Ferengee doing business under the “Rules of Acquisition”.)
@aviator
@aviator 5 жыл бұрын
Lee, I'm dismayed reading this. I'm sorry you felt that I trash talked any brand. We try hard to point out the good and bad of everything, but I truly must apologize if you left with that taste in your mouth. It was never my intent. One thing worth pointing out is that a LOT can change for a brand over 3 years. We've been really impressed by the new models, new support structure etc. Perhaps that is part of the reason? Either way, I am truly sorry for leaving a bad impression. Please come say hi the next time you see me and remind me of our conversations. I'd love to share a beverage with you and repair my mistake.
@kmikemoore16
@kmikemoore16 5 жыл бұрын
At least my opinion, and what I appreciate about Aviator, is that there isn't brand bashing online. A big detractor from some of the other "experts" is their constant bashing of other brands and individuals. It's simply not good optics to bash online...now if I'm in your shop I expect you to tell me your version of the truth, I'm a grown man and am not going to make decisions based on one opinion. Lee - not sure why you would see it any differently but to each his own!
@kmikemoore16
@kmikemoore16 5 жыл бұрын
@@aviator and even more classy from Aviator
@luciensims
@luciensims 5 жыл бұрын
Who is this handsome devil?
@wuffa4503
@wuffa4503 3 жыл бұрын
had an opportunity to examine an air conception a few days ago,,it takes very little effort to twist the frame and cage ,very flimsy,i would not own one
@davidh7636
@davidh7636 5 жыл бұрын
Very complicated for consumers now. Will you be stocking huge amounts of parts for years to come? If no longer selling their units, that wouldn't make much sense. Thus, long term customers will have to find other sources for parts
@aviator
@aviator 5 жыл бұрын
No sir, we still HAVE a large stock but it's running out. We'll be stocking the essentials in the future.
@XenoVI
@XenoVI 5 жыл бұрын
Was wondering what Woody was talkin about lol
@XenoVI
@XenoVI 5 жыл бұрын
Also great explanation thanks for sharing...
@michaelsanders6099
@michaelsanders6099 5 жыл бұрын
It’s just that British engineering is better right? 😉😬🇬🇧
@jaybenny7719
@jaybenny7719 5 жыл бұрын
Michael Sanders certain British companies take engineering to the next level. Most F1 teams are UK based. It’s a great base for alternative high end we just seem to struggle with with mid market mass production :(
@jaybenny7719
@jaybenny7719 5 жыл бұрын
Austin Carlson 2 way street brother I’ve had some bits from the stars iver the years that have been poor and I’ve glad some great stuff too. Our image is still tarnished from the trouble the unions cause in the 60’s, 70’s and early 80s
@gleanerman2195
@gleanerman2195 5 жыл бұрын
Why not just do what I did, buy a flattop and don't worry abought parts.
@richardwilson9350
@richardwilson9350 5 жыл бұрын
So you fly something that is not as good or safe because you don't like the way someone says something. Tells me everything I need to know about your intellect.
@rwhirsch
@rwhirsch 5 жыл бұрын
looked through the comments...was looking forward to seeing dell on one of his "everyone is a loser but me" tirades....disappointed.
@LiveWildandFree37
@LiveWildandFree37 5 жыл бұрын
lmao. that was funny. Im a Dell fan. Though he is a bit much to handle at times. this guy was refreshing. When i eventually get a paramotor im still getting Dells Ninja cause im damn sure im gonna stumble and fall many times, some real hard falls. The Flat top will save my azzz and money. In a few years when i become a pro, ill sell it and buy a scout .
@johnmorris3776
@johnmorris3776 5 жыл бұрын
I think both dell and flightjunkies annoys the crap out of me saying how his setup is better than the other. Why don't they mount fully automatic paintball guns on their gliders and get into a dogfight far as I care.
@terrabiker
@terrabiker 5 жыл бұрын
You must be exclusive but they can't keep up with supply , but if you start to sell anything else , they will cut you off completely....is a dick move...in my opinion...and quite overconfident. Especially in the business with such limited demand like paramotors are. But hey , whatever makes them happy , you obviously found something better that you are more satisfied with so it's a win win for you i guess.
@maniac4343
@maniac4343 5 жыл бұрын
First
@nilnor2870
@nilnor2870 5 жыл бұрын
tucker gott 😃☕🍵
@jaqueezs3653
@jaqueezs3653 5 жыл бұрын
I'm curious, if you're not bashing on other motors, why do you boot Aviator Alliance Members out of your club if they don't want to sell your motors for you? I thought the Alliance was created to form a great training experience by learning from one another - but now it seems like a money making scheme.
@aviator
@aviator 5 жыл бұрын
When we send a customer to an Alliance member we're giving up a lot of the capital that allows us to pay our employees and feed our children. If they aren't selling the equipment we support, we're giving up even more. For what it's worth, we haven't "booted" any one. Some of them have just opted to go in different directions. We're all still friends :)
@jaqueezs3653
@jaqueezs3653 5 жыл бұрын
@@aviator That's assuming a lot. If people were able to go to Aviator PPG, they would. You guys are the best after all. But what about people who are remote, don't want to be on a waiting list for a year and/or can't afford your $3K training fee? You aren't "giving up" any capital at all by referring people. Either they are able to go to you, or they aren't. From a consumer's point of view, the Alliance is a stamp of approval from you guys, saying that we trust these people and since you're not able to come to us, you'll be safe with them. Your business model should be membership fee and/or referral fee based. Removing an instructor's ability to sell whatever gear they personally feel is best for their students and/or situation shouldn't immediately mean you are going to remove them from the club and dissociate from them. Otherwise, you come off as Kingpins running a PPG cartel.
@aviator
@aviator 5 жыл бұрын
@@jaqueezs3653 Ah, I see your confusion. The Alliance members aren't just a seal of approval (that may happen in the future we haven't really considered it, but for now USPPA is the governing "stamp"). For us, Alliance members are about more than just saying they're good schools, they get direct referrals from people who DO want to train with us. I like your idea though, perhaps we could have "Aviator Certified" schools in the future. We'd love to help better EVERY possible school out there!
@jaqueezs3653
@jaqueezs3653 5 жыл бұрын
@@aviator Oh, I think I understand now. At first I thought being an Alliance member was just an assurance that member schools taught the same curriculum that everyone in the Alliance collectively worked to develop - thereby ensuring that you'd get the same education as if you had gone to Florida and trained with you. But it's more like being an Alliance school is like being a McDonald's franchisee - you technically own it, but you're controlled by the corporate mother ship. From a business point of view, it really is impressive and exciting that this sport has risen to that level of popularity. I just hope everyone in the sport remembers to remain safe and honorable so no one taints public opinion and ruin it for everyone.
@maxbootstrap7397
@maxbootstrap7397 5 жыл бұрын
Here is another take... albeit, not for everyone. Farewell to paramotors. I was going to buy a paramotor and take the paramotor courses. But after watching boatloads of paramotor videos, I started to notice everyone almost always flies early mornings or late afternoons just before sunset... due to turbulence. Plus, non-favorable conditions are fairly common (winds, gusts, etc). Plus cold weather that makes flying miserable is fairly common too (if not certain much of the year). So after quite a bit of thought and soul searching... I bought an airplane. Can fly almost any time... day and night (which is awesome)... spring, summer, fall and winter. Also, 3000 miles on a tank instead of 30 miles or so. Also across continents and oceans... like to Hawaii or Fiji... or anywhere else on the planet I may want to go in hops of 3000 miles or less. Don't get me wrong, I think paramotors are radically cool. And when conditions are perfect, awesome to tour through gorgeous scenery. And it wasn't an easy decision. But so far I'm content with my choice. I wonder how many others consider the positives and negatives of all the different ways to be an "aviator" before they choose "which way to fly". PS: I have to admit... the rather large number of reports of broken components and repair hassles factored into my decision. Fortunately problems with paramotor components don't seem to cause injury or death very often.
@jeffpeff
@jeffpeff 5 жыл бұрын
max bootstrap Yes, flying paramotors is limited to benign weather conditions. But it is considerably less expensive than fixed wing airplanes. Maybe, if you can afford the expense of airplane ownership, you could afford to do both? It is after all, a different experience, being in the open air in a harness, as opposed to being in an enclosed cockpit. I think that’s the attraction for me, anyway. Also don’t forget, there’s a lot more stuff that breaks, and requires regular inspections on an airplane, than on a paramotor. Congratulations on the airplane! I wish you all the best with it! Clear skies, and happy flying. Enjoy!
@maxbootstrap7397
@maxbootstrap7397 5 жыл бұрын
@@jeffpeff : Yup, wish I could afford both! I could have afforded both if I bought an airplane just for bush/mountain/backcountry flying. In fact, one can buy some pretty spiffy used bush planes for not much more than a really good paramotor, wing, etc. I never thought I would own an airplane, because to be "worth it" to me required that it was great for bush/mountain/backcountry flying ... AND ... long-range flying (which I define as being able to fly at least 3000 miles (meaning 2500 miles plus 500 miles safety margin). That 4000km/2500mile number is more-or-less a "magic number" for me, because that is what is required to be able to fly anywhere on earth. Actually, that won't get you to the south pole and back, but otherwise, that 4000km/2500mile will get you anywhere on the planet. Pretty much the longest non-stop hop is from California to Hawaii... at nearly 2500 miles. The cross the south pacific only requires 3000km/1875mile range. So... as usual... I'm weird. For a long time I thought an airplane was out of the question because no tiny airplane had a range of 4000km. Of course people do put ferry tanks in one or more passenger seats to fly them to remote locations (like California to Hawaii), but such an airplane is not practical for general long-range flying. As far as I know, only one airplane exists that has these capabilities. And so... that's what I purchased. Being in the open air is great... when the weather is great. The airplane I bought has doors that open upward and attach to the underside of the wings. And the airplane can be flown with doors open or doors off... though not at anywhere near full speed (300kph). But for low and slow flying... which is something I love to do, and will do lots of, I will be able to fly without doors. That's not entirely out in the open, of course, but... not too bad a tradeoff. And in cold weather... hahaha. No comparison! :-) This airplane also gets great fuel economy... as in 50~70 mpg on automobile gasoline @ 275~240kph... which may be better than paramotors? And being "experimental" means I can do a lot of my own service and modifications and avoid the price horrors of certified airplane costs... at least some of that anyway. My guess is, the airplane will cost a tiny fraction as much as a paramotor... per mile. Not sure about "per hour" though. Probably where your claim turns out to be correct is insurance... assuming I buy insurance (probably will).
@jeffpeff
@jeffpeff 5 жыл бұрын
max bootstrap Nice. That all sounds really cool. My dad has a RV-12, and a home built experimental bi-plane based on a British SE-5. My brother has a Pitts Special. I’m going the butt-fan and bedsheet route, 🤣. But like I say, it just depends on what kind of flying you want to do. It’s all good. Be safe up there! What airplane did you buy, if I may ask?
@maxbootstrap7397
@maxbootstrap7397 5 жыл бұрын
@@jeffpeff : pipistrel virus sw with rotax 912iS engine, 300-liter fuel tanks and pretty much the full-bore set of Dynon avionics built around the HDX1100. Maybe someday I can afford a butt-fan too.
@paratour2016
@paratour2016 5 жыл бұрын
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