HAhaha thanks King Thushy!

Thank you for your compliments! And you'll be happy to know the first set of practice-alongs are dropping in 3 days time :)

My pleasure, let me know how it goes!!

That's what we should all do! I hope this inspires you in your own career endeavours!

Hey Sam, this is a little outdated video of mine and there's a lot of missing information still. I encourage you to do more of your own research and experimentation. The concepts are still sound but we must be careful how we apply this. For example we gotta make sure our technique is sound and the one we really want to use when we're doing the really fast practicing. Otherwise the body forces other muscles to help takeover, and force a different kind of technique. But that also works if you're like Chris Turner who doesn't really care about feet technique and just powering through with his hip flexors. To summarize, in my opinion the key is just consistent practice and tweaking with knowledge. Happy new year to you too!

@@ArtOfDrummingHQ Got it! I know this vid is 2 years old but I do think the idea could still work! I am currently practicing my ankle technique so no worries there, I got that part under control, I hope 😜 Cheers for the quick answer! Sam

The pleasure is mine!!

It was my problem too so I understand :)

Nice to see you agaig and thank you kind Sir!

YEah exactly, athletes know exactly what to do, we just need to learn from them :) And you're awesome too Adrian !

Whoa you already achieved blazing speed Elias, although this can help you go even faster if you wish. Thank you for following my channel!

Yep I just didn't have time to make it till now because of my album launch last month. Hope you find this useful Isaac!

Oh I talked about this in an earlier video "the most important ingredient to achieving your drumming goals", this was a continuation. Anyway in that video I said I got from 150bpm to 190bpm in 6 months using this training plan, while I was stuck with other methods for more than a year. Hope that helps!

It's time to put an end this chapter of your struggle!

I had to get the message across lol, thanks for watching and your compliments!

Welcome gaia38ant and thanks for your compliment :)

Glad you like it James!

Cool keep going with this and hope you'll see progressive improvement!

Thank you Abhishek!!!!!!!!!!!

HEHEHE SO ARE YOU

I haven't really thought about doing a hand video, but perhaps I will. Though a lot of these concepts apply to whatever muscle groups we're trying to tackle, oh it'll be interesting to know what you dug up with your research Tomas!

Yes I have used them to increase my intensity, and recommend them for anyone who wants to try. But you can also just go faster and harder without ankle weights on to get tired as fuck still.

Just do this training plan with the hands and watch them get faster in 6 weeks :)

Hahaha, are you into Tesseract?

Hahaha I intended to write loved the Tesseract background. My autocorrect messed up lol

OH LOL

Oh I like the demon drives. But I used to play the old eliminators with the chain drives. And honestly I think you can't really feel the difference until you go faster than 200bpm. But experiment and do whatever works for you Sam !

Hey, great to hear back from you! I've been using the demon drives for 4 years now, so I don't know if it's just a nostalgic thing thinking back to my first pearl chain pedals, but you're right, I'll get them and see how I get on! Looking forward to your new series!

Yes it applies to any sort of muscle development :) been using this to get my hands to 220bpm

Art of Drumming HQ thank u for the reply!!!

Of course it's okay. You can try doing stuff with your hands but I've found that when I'm trying to go much faster than I can it takes all of my focus to do it. But still go ahead and see if it works for you, as long as it's not some crazy hand independence thing you'll be fine.

Yeah one could remember Thomas Lang talking about different kinds of drummers that practice solely hands, that practice hands and feet afterward. But he’s way is like “why not practicing both the same time?” 🤣 even rudiments come along

YESSS you nailed it on the sport science terms. Oh I can be very advanced but I still constantly have accuracy and coordination limitations, just on a higher level. Here's the good news. When you are VO2MAX-ing, it's also an opportunity to work on accuracy and coordination, because it's super easy slow. And only in this domain can you devote more of your concentration to the tiny details of every stroke and placement and sound. And when you are in the HIIT domain, more of your concentration is used to focus on not giving up and pushing your body to it's limit. So you don't have to care about accuracy here AND that also has a nice side effect. Building trust in your ability to be accurate. Because you are simply letting it happen without a care about it sounding messy(because it will likely sound messy at an uncomfortably fast speed) And that requires you to see the big picture instead of the tiny details. So it's when you work on the tiny details while doing VO2MAX, and the big picture when doing HIIT, that you create the best balance and workout to develop anything from muscle development to accuracy to memorization to cognitive and motor skills. Damn I love science hahaha. Oh I'm using my switch beaters at my band's studio, therefore using the standard beaters at my own home studio. cheers!

Thanks for the reply! It makes sense to add coordination stuff to the vo2max part, and knowing that I don't actually need to be as accurate during HIIT is a relief. I'll add this to my practice routine. Thanks!

I'll wait for your news in 6 weeks

Art of Drumming HQ I can't stick to it. The piece of cake session is not a problem, but thing is, I can play at 150 bpm for 5 minutes, but can't even play a proper 155 bpm one second. I don't really have a "tired as fuck" tempo.

It's not about playing anything proper for your TAF sessions. It's about suffering and pushing your muscles way beyond their limit, and you'll pant and tense up and struggle with consistency and accuracy for 20 seconds. I don't care if you fall off the chair doing it, if your feet flam and your left foot slows down and you get an out of phase 16th, that's what this is about. The fact that you can play 150BPM for 5 minutes means you can push at least 170BPM - 180BPM for 20 secs.

@@ArtOfDrummingHQ ok I get the idea thx

Firstly, thank you for sharing your views, I'm glad some people don't just take what I say at face value. That's why I urge people to read the articles that I shared in the description, plus do their own research and experiment to find out what actually works best for them. Plus I grossly summarised everything I talked about in this video as I mentioned towards the end of the video. But I'll share a bit more, it is true that you can train white fibers by doing movements very intensively. Either one single movement like a single power lift or heavy bench press. Or a couple of intense and rapid movements like a very short and fast sprint and sprinters generate more force in the same amount of distance covered than marathon runners. That's because force affects the velocity of an object, I'm not going to debate with Sir Isaac Newton his physics laws. Therefore if we play double bass really fast, we have to recruit the explosive fibers to affect the desired change in velocity. Therefore part 1 of my training plan is to practice short and really faster than you can sprint, sprints. I implore anyone to do that and tell me that it wasn't intense. And if double bass works solely on the nervous system, means we can all just practice steady state cardio workouts and see increases in our speed without having to push ourselves. Something that I've been experimenting for a year with little progress. It is true though that double bass is also taxing on the nervous system, all of drumming generally is because we often have to maintain playing for an hour with little breaks in between if we're playing a show. Hence part 2 of my training plan is focused here. I would also add that everyone is born with different ratios of red and white fibers and it is still debated in science how much we can actually modify or grow any new ones. But we can definitely train the existing ones to be more efficient and powerful. And it is possible to convert fibers to fast oxydative glycolytic, which is a type IIa muscle fiber that acts like a hybrid of white and red fibers. Sort of the best of both worlds. I'm going to end this by saying I'm definitely going to be wrong about all of this. Because we're always wrong in the sense that we can always do things better, because it's impossible to understand something completely, because there is no such thing as perfection. And we continuously find out what we believed to be true and real was actually ludicrous nonsense in whatever fields we engage in. But that's how we advance humanity :) So thank you for sharing once again, it's because of your comment that we elaborated more on this topic for the good of this community. I invite anyone to share their own opinions, to break ours down, because then we can all advance drumming together. Cheers Blaast!

Thank you for your response and your view. I don't pretend to know everything aswell and it's true even scientists don't. You're right about the third type of fibers btw, I forgot to question you about it as, correct me if I'm wrong, you didn't talk about it in the video. I would add that I'm not a drummer and my point of view is only based on the sports I practice (running, boxing and a bit of muscular training). The only thing I disagree with is that I think, based on my own experience, that playing drums fast in a short time doesn't affect the muscles the same way powerlifting or very fast sprinting does. What I want to say is that the feeling of exhausting a muscle in a very short time is not the same as burning it, even if you manage to burn the muscle in a short span. Again, I never played drums, but I try to compare playing double pedal as fast punching in boxing for example. It feels to me it exhausts the nervous system much more than the muscle. Actually, having lifted some heavy weights in the past, exhausting the muscle completely in order to summon white fibers feels like... nothing much. Not burning or anything. You just feel a bit tired and you have NO strength anymore until you rest. That's what I'm trying to say, from my experience of course. The feeling is just different, and imo is not recreated by very fast movements. Actually, this kind of exhaustion is only doable in things like powerlifting, and not boxing for example, apart maybe from throwing the hardest punch you can for a few minutes. But again, it impacts more the nervous system from my point of view. Anyway, I don't pretend to know so much too and I happily listen to other point of views. I'm just trying to bring my experience to the overall idea in order to understand and find a way to improve, because it's fascinating and I think it's a very interesting topic. Digging so deep into sport science is what drives me to improve in my own discipline, like yours in drums. I really like the fact that you brought up this topic into drums, and it shows how much hunger for learning you have in order to improve in an art I have never experienced once in my lifetime, but that must be very demanding in physical ability. Thank you for the video and keep it up ;)

Thank you for sharing your experience and it's a unique non drumming perspective that we need to hear from, perhaps you are right and we'll narrow it down and get to an even better method because of this discussion. Thanks for checking out the video all the way to the end by the way and I'm amazed how you're not a drummer but ended up watching this video. You keep improving too :)

It applies to anything you want to get faster at! Any technique, any concept, any subdivision, any skeletal muscle. Just adopt the same training plan!

I see. Thanks for the helpful vid and reply...!!

Best way to describe it clearly :D

Not necessary, I sometimes do 30mins with metronome and 30mins without. Sometimes I don't use metronome at all. I just monitor my own muscle fatigue and heart rates. If it's getting too hard I slow down, if it's too easy after 30mins I speed up, and so on.

Yes it works for anything you want more muscle control in terms of speed

@@ArtOfDrummingHQ Nice. Thank you for the reply.

Hahaahha that's true, mega tons of it is necessary though

I do 2 - 3 at most in my practice schedule

@@ArtOfDrummingHQ Thank you for the reply because I was guessing it might be around a minimum of 6 sets for TAF.

Oh that also depends, I've increased my TAF to 1 minute instead of 20 seconds that's why 2 to 3 sets. And I'm also practicing a lot of other double bass stuff so I don't want to overexert my muscles by doing too many TAF and then practicing all the other things as well. So if you are only doing TAF in a single session you can go ahead and do up to 4 or 6.

@@ArtOfDrummingHQ Thank you for the replies. When you increase the TAF to a minute long burst, how long of a rest do you give yourself before the next burst? My guess is 40 seconds.

@@Crocodonk You're absolutely right :)

I'll try to summarize it, we as drummers can't just play fast, we often times have good endurance too, to play song after song, and concerts. And that is our cardiovascular health that we are targeting in the piece of cake domain. Because if we only do tired as fuck, we can sprint damn fast but we don't have lasting power. Therefore we do both ends of the spectrum. To develop the unique capabilities of both ends. I urge you to read all the articles I referenced. It's impossible for me to explain everything in great detail but you made me realize that I should have explained this part more haha. Hope that helps!

Haha I overdid the fitness scenes oops

@@ArtOfDrummingHQ great content though 😄

HAHAHAHA that really cracked me up thanks Jay!

Hahahaha sorry pal for wasting your 6 minutes.

@@ArtOfDrummingHQ lol hope everyone knows i was joking. I might have to suggest this to one of my students, only I'll say Tired AF: "tired...and fatigued" 😛

Haha I know Tommy, that's why I laughed. all the best to you and your students. Let me know how it goes too!

Means going for very long durations and a manageable tempo.

Hahaha yes!!!

@@ArtOfDrummingHQ hahah amazing, i love Larc and thanks for the video, its amazing!

Wow Me Too!!! I bought that poster at one of their concerts, thanks David!

Animals teach us so much about living, National Geographic would have us know all the time LOL

“even my dog knows how to play Bleed on double bass" :)

HAhahahahaha