Not the cursed Joe 😂

Joe on dis 1, but never the less keep talking yo shit Charlie rock they only fuck witchu when it's convenient, keep holding it down Cuba the truth always comes to light

I don't know them personally. That's their beef, facts.

Anyone but this Beluga

@@JosefDaBoi187 HAHAHA why not?!

One of my favorite lyrics bro because it rings so true

If I had to choose one MC for best ever it would be Nas

@@Thatdude-tp7xs He definitely up there man. Idk how anyone could get mad at that choice.

@PANDA CHOP! News my personal favorite is big L but if somebody said pick one as best of the best it's nas

Agreed

Well Charlie said the apartment was a lie and the hummer he did a down payment not like Joe makes it seem like he bought it outright for him

I'm rolling with Joey on this one.

Gotta agree.

​@@pandachopnewseven still, he provided some big shit for a grown man and it doesn't seem like LD made anything substantial of himself. What's going on now is all he has to show for himself.

@@pandachopnews if someone payed my downpayment for me I’d be grateful

😂😂😂 are you quoting Charlie or do you actually know Joe?

Come on Little Joeyyyy

@@crackmanjones1710 Charlie's sayings and mannerisms are so funny. Shout out to Charlie man

Shit be having me crying. Joey 😂

Hahahhaha Joey come on!! 🤣🤣

Remind me of Beans and Jay

@@samsneadd - another similar story.

@@samsneadd A little different Fat Joe & Charlie knew each other before the music. Jay Z & Beans met through music so it was more likely to be business from the get go.

Yeah you speaking facts on this one. Def a sad one and when I interviewed Charlie I could tell it really did hurt him

@@samsneadd The beans and Jay story is really sad too like when Beans dropped “what you talking about” you could hear the hurt in him

ohhhh good point man. That's a fact

He’s blackballing Cuban Link how?, it ain’t Joe fault he’s always looking and sounding like he needs to be in a Rehab somewhere in every video and interview he does.

@@jeremiahwilliams7630 all these years you don’t think Joe blackballed Cuban at all?

@@pandachopnews What has Cuban been doing ever sense he left Terror squad? What happened to that Bang Bang Boogie shit with him and Mysonne ?,He’s put out plenty of music and projects why didn’t they do nothing? All I’m saying is you can’t blame Joe for every problem he’s had with his career.

Again NY 🥷 embarrassing us and making us look corny

Well I’ve heard that Joe watches everything that is said about him even from the smallest KZfaqrs so he def cares. I wonder why because he’s such a famous person that it’s like who cares what some small KZfaqr says

He took care of Pun’s family for years. He himself was robbed of millions by an accountant. He has a wife, a daughter, a special needs son, and parents of his own to be responsible for. Taking caring of a family that isn’t yours for an extended period time isn’t doing someone dirty, just because you don’t choose to enable their neediness forever. People are responsible for their own success and for providing for themselves.

And thats facts but karma is real and it's going hit his lame ass hard watch

I was born and raised in south Bronx’s everyone’s knew pun and his wife were horrible with money matter fact pun had half of millions dollars before he was famous due to a lawsuit and he blow that shit up in 6 months foh

You forgot about the most important fact he robbed pun for royalties

💯💯💯

Being real and being fake or two different ways

@@shadowone6901 yup that's true

Why haven't you been feeling Joe? lol @ the what are you doing!?

@@pandachopnews jus Cause 🤣 I ain't bouta do no paragraph,disliking him But he most definitely was Violated niggas on dat joint den he ced "Is this a NY thing?" dat was crazy 2🤣

Well people said at that he time Joe was facing a lot of heat and was trying to clean up his image. Idk if it’s true though

Yeah he shouted him out for a long time man

Yep on lifestyle

He be like yo there was 20k viet cong and I saved the USA and so many lives 😂

Yeah he shouted out Charlie a lot

The whole tax evasion was as a result of accountants stealing from Joe wasn’t it?

lol this way ppl arrive at decisions lol

The accountant stole from him. He didn’t evade anything.

lmaooooooo im sure fat joe is heartbroken on you sucking off charlie rock

You are WRONG, just bc Joe didn't do real time doesn't mean anything, Joe is FOR REAL, so was Pun, you are NOT from the streets! of you was you would know this #InternetPpl

but he wasn't asking to just sit around and collect checks though. He was asking for help to set-up a business or something so that he didn't have to be one of those that just hung on and expected money.

brooooo lol idk man that would not end up well. I don't think Pistol could be objective in that situation because Joe is his man.

😂😂😂 right

😂😂😂 bro said Charlie supposed to work the supermarket and Joe gonna Rob it 💀

I’m not sure Joe stuck up a Supermarket to bail Charlie out tho. 🙃

😂😂😂 you know something I don’t?

@PANDA CHOP! News Ask Charlie Rock, about Crack,he built different 🤣😂

😂😂

slow clap bro, you know what happens when your world comes crushing down around you? THE REST OF THE WORLD KEEPS TURNING. You gotta climb out on your own!

@@tachon12345 Now that part is F-up

Why do you think it was good?

@@pandachopnews 1st of all I'm not obligated to take care of a grown man and if u think the way i think then u wouldn't want another man taking care of u. So u a criminal if u wanna show me u could get a job like other ex criminals do and maintain it all while enjoying life with ya millionaire friend on the wknd then maybe you'll show me i could get u a job that u could keep rollin with me all wk. Ya wknds gonna consist of the fliest shit and its all my money paying for it

@Maefex Beats So you think you shouldn't ask your friend for help? This narrative is that Charlie just wanted to sit around and collect checks from Joe is wrong. Charlie asked him for help so he could become self sufficient and not have to be one of these that hang on and just ask for money.

@@pandachopnews we no that’s cap. And like joe said he went broke trying to take care of everybody once before. He would be a fool to do it again

so if you have a friend that put their life on the line for you, you gonna cut them off?

I was surprised he said that

I tried to warn you Panda.🤔 (weeks ago). I also told you Joes too busy clocking dollars to care about Dudes capping. Remember?

@@Durans28years don't be trying to call me out on here lol

@@pandachopnews 😂😎lol, but I confess, I also told you it’s not your fault regarding Charlie’s capping game. You only know what he’s telling you. You can’t be blamed he’s a great capping “Artista”. That’s what we call his type. Funny guy!🤣TREMENDO ARTISTA

He asked him for a job not a hand out it’s 2 different things

@@kingmunchtv he clearly told him to go work in the supermarket? What are you confused about? Lmaooooo What time does your shift start, Einstein

@@philipnickens8092 after your mom gets done sucking my dick we know she loves trains lmao 🤣

@@kingmunchtv he asked him for an opportunity. When I interviewed Charlie it seemed more like Charlie wanted help starting a business or something so he wouldn’t have to keep asking Joe for help

@@philipnickens8092 yes Joe told him to do that but Charlie was asking for an opportunity so that he could be self sufficient and not have to ask Joe for money

lol bro Charlie need to come out with a shirt that says "lil joeeyyyyyyy" hahaha

@@pandachopnews 😂😂😂

Charlie unfortunately can’t move on with his life

Either way he's payd who cares. EVERYBODY LIES

Only Fake mudufuckers lie

Idk what happened between them because no one truly does unless it’s Charlie and Joe. Yes they each said what they said about each other but I will say when I interviewed Charlie he really was hurt and I could tell

Do you think Joe blackballed him because he was mad at his mom Liza?

HE DONT OWE THAT KID NOTHING!!!

@@christopherayettey4390 act like it’s 1998 and Pun is here and someone asks “Joe if Pun was to suddenly die would you care for his family”? The fk you think would come out of his fat mouth? Pretty much EVERYONE SAYS the kid is nice at rapping but has NO career! You think Joe at the very least client get him set up with some studio time and a little endorsement? Stop

He tried… Chris Rivers mom dubbed the situation and out of respect for his mom he didn’t wanna fuck wit Joe.

@@pandachopnews absolutely

😂😂😂 you think he’s subscribed under one of the trolls on the page?

@@pandachopnews erick ortiz is, the bing bong one

@@DM-ji9lr who is Erick Ortiz?

@@pandachopnews the bing bong account that always comments and says shit about Cuban or ANYTHING anti ts I know how to reverse search and trace online. You’re welcome 😇

Yea, he’s official on wanting another man taking care of him.. The bum needs to go get a job , period .

Who’s around him that does that?

​@@pandachopnews Tony Sunshine

You know how many rich people in the industry sniffs ??? If you stiff but your about that cash and could put cash in his pockets ..Joe will mess with you … He just mess with broke people who sniff

@@MOTHEGENERALTV I know lol I was just being messy

@@Durans28years right. Who you rolling with on this situation?

I don’t agree with that. Joe is pretty famous even outside of that these days but yes you can argue those people made it possible for him to be where he is today

​@PANDA CHOP! News the bottom line is joe wouldn't be where he is today with out pun link seis and prospect. Armageddon too. The "da fat gangsta" era was not going to get him anywhere other than being a bx known rapper

Joe was already more than a "BX known rapper" before he put Pun and the rest of those guys on.

@@mikehunt8247 def agree with you on that. He wouldn't be where he is today without that movement behind him. His rap career went to another level especially skill wise because they was helping him in that department.

@@Shum_Shum_ yeah he was known but there's no denying his career went to a completely different level after the fact and these guys were helping Joe from a technical standpoint elevate. Too many people have said they helped Joe write rhymes or teach him how to say things with the cadence and flow.

Charlie doing good things out in the community right now man. Shout out to him.

Yeah but the statue of limitations is way over for that

You make a good point but you don’t think it was wrong for Joe to just abandon him because he developed a problem?

😂😂😂 he’s quite the character. Good dude

Lol

😂😂😂

Exactly but Joe don’t care 😂. He looked like he was going to cry. But he don’t care 🤷‍♂️

Yeah if he really didn’t care then he wouldn’t have responded

​@@pandachopnews facts

@@broadwaybiz211 Joe tends to say he doesn't care but his people say he watches everything related to him. IDK why some small youtuber's opinion matters to a "giant" successful rapper at that point you know?

It says he got time today 😂. This dude been crying for years

If someone responds then they care so it’s gotta be true. But if they don’t respond then they scared and it’s gotta be true. Damned if you do damned if you don’t. An unchecked lie becomes the truth.

What do you think was different from then to now?

The street beef was serious at that time plus gangs etc Charlie was a older man for stripes he lucky it was just his eye. Joe dont owe him his life but show all the paperwork house cars Pun paperwork. In his hood even mine Roc name came up for putting on.

I think everyone cares to an extent even when they say they don't care. You get tired of hearing these narratives about you even if it is true.

@@pandachopnews big facts. But then keep it 100 and say they're name. The subliminal ish is corny

@@urbanwrestlingnw yeah I think that’s wack not to just say the persons name

idk about all that. I think Joe still would fight but I do think his stories be exaggerated.

​@@pandachopnews joe is definitely feeling the wrath..

@@chrisgarzon7245 wrath of what?

@@pandachopnews idk... with that peg leg, idt he's doing too much. Tell em Call Cuban the knee doctor 🤙

@@jaycampas6463 LOL Cuban the knee doctor

😂😂😂 little joeyyyy

With that dope feen voice 😂😂😂

😂😂😂 why not? Joe says he always tells the truth

Facts

All facts what the joe suppose to do take care of a 60 year old man ?? Smfh

He has no point. Charlie put his life on the line for Joe in prison. Should haven't done him dirty.

lol appreciate you my guy KD. I'm just tryna get on your level bro. I see you in the comments of all TS related things even dating back years. Tryna get that encyclopedia knowledge like you LOL

@@pandachopnews Keep doing the great job you do and you'll get there. Thought you would report about the Tekashi 69 jumping in Miami. That will give your channel some more traffic.

I def wish it was different like they were all still together and could have become a powerhouse especially for the latino community. Unfortunately, life doesn't work like that

We don't know all the ins and outs of everything but it definitely isn't a good look. That's for sure.

could've but would never.

😂😂😂 bro said draws his beard on

Any particular reason you don’t believe what Fat Joe is saying?

@@pandachopnews because since I'm from the Bronx, I mutually know some people who knew him, before and after his fame and inside and outside of the studio, he ain't really about what he said. I would like to show you one of the videos of him winking his left eye while he was telling his mythical story for the sheeple to believe him by buying his BS. You're welcome!

I do agree with you that expecting others to do as we would often leads to disappointment. Those standards will lead to great heartache

You do have a point that what you’re saying does happen but I think it’s a little more complex in this situation. Charlie seriously had legit brotherly love for Joe

That’s true. That was kind of admission

i believe both of them , i think they just need to talk and become friends again .

Nah cuban did some shit that coulda cost everyone there life

@@the_lemons_show what was that?

@@wallstthug yeah I don’t think that will happen though. I think Joe probably considers Charlie in the same box as Cuban where things are unfixable

So you don't think Joe is to be blamed for anything?

@@pandachopnews no blame for joe at all

Yes that shouldn’t stop you but what about loyalty to someone that put their life on the line? Within reason of course

Stuff like that hurts But you gotta use that as motivation. Can’t let no man control your destiny. Let that be the fuel to be great. Being great just means being the best version of yourself. Can’t let another man control that.

@@chelog189 Well shout out to Charlie because he's now working in the community and helping those that come home from prison assimilate back into Society. he has turned his life around. Yes he's not rich like Joe but he's done well for himself considering how much time he did in prison.

@@pandachopnews Definitely. A ton of props to him for not letting anyone stop his personal journey. And my heart goes out to him and anyone who’s been hurt or disappointed by someone who they loved and put faith in.

I know that part had me dying too lol wake up!

@@pandachopnews , I hope the Best for both dudes, Hopefully they work it out. Shit can go South Real Quick.✌🏼

I know right?!

I def hear where you're coming from but healing is a life long process man. Healing is not linear. Charlie's situation is differnet from Cuban's in that him and Joe had a genuine relationship since they were really young and Charlie really put his life on the line in many situations for Joe. Yes, you can argue the situation with the eye incident could have been avoided BUT if you are big on honor then you wouldn't let anyone disrespect someone you got love for. I know it's easy for us watching from the outside to say oh he shouldn't have done that. Yes, you're right that Joe is not obligated to take care of anyone but his own family but the narrative people are pushing is that Charlie just expected to sit around and collect checks and that's not true. He wanted Joe's help to set up a business or something so he could be self sufficient and not have to be one of those guys that hang on and just expect money.

@@pandachopnews Charlie is pot calling the kettle black when it comes to being hurt and unhealed. He makes fun of Cuban but he does the same himself. 🤦🏻‍♀️

I think the thing between Charlie and Joe is much more personal. They've known each other since they were kids pretty much but I def hear what you're saying.

Oh was Joe in jail?

That’s a fact💯

Well tell little Joey stop telling old stories especially when exaggerating

@@JamesHall415 he is a great story teller but he def be exaggerating

But Joe not moving on himself either cuz he wrote about Charlie in his book and be saying stuff here and there

hahah yeah

But he take time to comment and let it bother him to take time. Help it make sense.

@@samsneadd that’s a fact 💯👍💪

Ohh he cares

@@crackmanjones1710 yeah I feel like so many people that reach a level of success typically want to control the narrative.

💪💪💪 I just wonder why Joe never say people names. Joe just need to do a single interview with panda chop news addressing every rumor and put it to bed 😂

@PANDA CHOP! News facts I think he negates to use names cause he doesn't want any legal ramifications. Joe seems to be pretty savvy with them lawyers.

Were you there?

So you think Joe did the right thing suggesting this?

@@pandachopnews I feel Joe probably was trying to test him Giving him $1000 and telling him later on to get A Job Joe probably saw LD don't listen And he's too crazy That will mess up the money Perfect example Pistol Pete did so much more than LD and fat Joe in the streets But guess what? He listens and he plays his position when it comes to fat Joe He knows Joe is the boss You don't go over that Even if he feels joe may or may not be on the same level as him in the streets It don't matter Play your position and also bring something to the table Charlie rock didn't And only brought problems Joe did the right thing to LD

I def agree that the internet has given a voice to everyone and it's been good and bad.

You saw him up close or what?

@@pandachopnews he was in the row in front of me!! He was wildin singin all the songs loud and showin out!!

@@eastbee103 LOL that's dope man.

So you think Joe never valued him as a friend?

What? This was like 30 years ago lol the statue of limitations is wayyyy over not like he’s saying he caught a body

Respectfully how you know he ain’t been in a fight since the 90s? Not everything gets reported but I agree Charlie is Solid

He fought papoose in a the 2000s

@@derrickhunter589 That's true. They both had different accounts of what happened but yeah that did go down. It's good they ended up squashing it and are brothers now.

No bro I like Charlie Roc but truth be told it was over three bags of dope. I just wish they can just be friends . But facts it was over that boy . Boy meaning heroin.

So you think once someone can no longer be of service then he disposes of them?

CHARLIE was loyal to the wrong CRACK 🤣

Bro come on man. SMH

I am told by people close to the situation that Joe watches EVERYTHING. His team watches EVERYTHING about TS and Joe.

Fam you aint stupid. That is wht i am sayin if he REALLY dnt care why he take time commenting. Jts like for example back whn star put tht fake paper wrk out thr. Joe went live to deny it and speak on it he was not confident and sweatin like crazy. On my soul i seen it with my own eyes. Now we al knw its fake. But no one had ever mentioned why he was so nervous. Mad comments on the live asked. But tht shit is probably gone now. I have always wondered. That is relevant cause i have noticed a trend with fat joe if u are frm his past he will say all of the right shit to the fsns. But true or not it will bother him and he is going to speak on it then front like he dnt care. Its very telling.

@@samsneadd my thing with that response video is it was like 1 hour and he barely spent any time addressing the specific issue with the paperwork. He kept doing the smoke and mirrors stuff. I’m not saying he’s a snitch by any means but what I’m saying is why didn’t he address it more on such a long stream

Joe could’ve at least give brody a house to flip..... Right.?

@Motion I sure Joe took care of the people he wanted to! Is it possible that the both of them have different feelings about their relationship? Which seems obvious.

I think majority don’t but some do. Yeah that’s interesting for a lack of better words

I'm sure he does spread it to some people but probably not as much as he makes it seem like.

So if someone helped put their life on the line for you then you don’t owe them nothing?

Where do you get your logic from, oaths made in blood sweat and tears & loyalty to ones brothers is what makes us stand up men.

LOL i thought the story was funny. I don't care if he was talking about me either because at the end of the day I know what i'm doing and it's not personal with me anyways. I'm interviewing people but it's not my intention to personally bash Joe. I'm just pointing out what needs to be pointed out.

Lol what you mean

Well we don’t know all the ins and outs of the situation but I hear what you’re saying

I think it’s misconstrued because Charlie wasn’t worried about his money. He’s said numerous times in the interview I did with him that you don’t count your friends money. He just wanted help from his friend to set up a business or something so he would never have to ask his friend (Joe) for help again. I don’t think that was too much to ask. But again that’s what Charlie told me. There’s always multiple sides

Charlie said he been clean for 10 years but the other narrative that is being pushed by the other side is that he’s still on it

You think this was him admitting that he did Charlie dirty?

😂😂😂 but to be fair this was prior to him being famous he’s talking about

@PANDA CHOP! News man im talking bout his size, even with a mask, every one in the supermarket gonna be like.....thats joey lol

😂😂😂

But Joe never lies right? His book of Jose shows he always tells the truth right? lol

@@pandachopnews 😂😂🤷🏻‍♂️

I’m riding with the averages. There’s a lot more ppl coming out on behalf of joe than against him. And if what they are saying is true they are coming across as salty bc their lives didn’t turn out as well and the handouts stopped. Just saying. I do feel joe shitted on Chris rivers and coulda done more for him. But he was a kid. The others are grown men.

If you’re in your 50’s still trying to be loyal to hoodboogers you grew up with as a kid, you lost!!! 😂

@@Q-ZOO Charlie is not some hoodbooger though is he. Him and Fat Joe grew up together and Fat Joe shouted him out a million times and put him on 2 albums.

So you think both sides lie about each other?

@PANDA CHOP! News of course. Ego's brother. With money comes ego's. Also why now talk about this if your Charlie. I don't discredit Joe, to many people vouch for him, so of course he don't want to look bad, look how he kept bragging about his lifestyle and first thing he mentions is the guys teeth. But if you listen to Cuban Link, Joe is a liar to. Circle of life brother.

@@MrLuke9980 yeah i've interviewed Cuban a few times to know and Big Pun's Road manager Gilly. There's too many people that have said things about Joe for it to not be true.

Yeah but I really don’t think it will happen man. I think too much has been said on both sides for it to be fixed

Charlie said Joe used him to scare other rappers too like if you do me bad then this is the guy that will put a bullet in you

What particular things you think is about Cuban?

@@pandachopnews fat Joe said 25 years ago what are we doing here

@@lamontwilliams4172 yeah but it's not even 25 or 30 years ago lol. The situation with Link happened 23 years ago.

😂😂😂 so you believe Charlie?

Why did you guys do that?

@@pandachopnews cuz he made the wrong impression acting like everyone is awe of Fat Joe

@@bigjunssportstalk damn okay thanks for watching and sharing that

😂😂😂 come on Joe say he always tell the truth!

maybe he wanted a good lawyer? lol idk either that or he's lying

Why?

I respect the objectivity but I’m he thing is people act like Charlie was asking for continuous checks when it was more like help me set something up so I’ll never have to ask you for anything again. I think that’s way better