Micro is the new "Full Size" 😅

What are you talking about? We complained about the system not coming with antennas, not having built in rx, spectator mode not working, we said the walksnail antennas weren’t great, the screws are small, 25x25 mounting isn’t ideal… People said we lied about the DJI system when it first came out 2.5 years ago, too. Look how many people are flying that today. We always tell it how it is. Remember SharkByte? Same company. We didn’t say it was the best thing since sliced bread, and we didn’t switch. We told the truth. Wanted it to be great, but, it didn’t fit our flying style needs. I am a pilot first and will fly what is best. I don’t care who makes it, and I am genuinely excited about the potential of this system.

@@LetsFlyRC don't worry yourself with the naysayers. It's just mind bending how DJI getting 2+ years headstart, yet still many expect a new product to be exactly or better than what they have. Same people will sh&$#t on any new product, claiming how "great" DJI is, yet will in the same breath, complain why DJI has monopoly. Nobody seems to wanna give benefit of doubt for any product anymore. DJI was never great on day one. It took many firmware updates to get to what we have now. But nobody seems to want to see avatar hd evolve. It's just so counterintuitive

Joshua tested it. It did worse in the car garage test lol.

Other tests coming out are showing less range and higher latency (higher than shown in goggles) with what looks like micro stuttering and terrible compression. This 'review' is definitely a commercial.

@@RecursionLabs ofc, what did you expect? 😉

Haha, yes... JB and Mr Steele's videos clearly show that this system isn't actually competing with DJI at all. As for the 1080p, it's purely a gimmick. Something they can plaster on the marketing material to make noobs think because 1080 is a bigger number than 720, it must be better. The 1080p mode doesn't bring any more quality than the 720p mode and the other reviewers prefer flying this system in 720p mode for the higher frame rate. The only saving grace is that this system is coming at a time where DJI are most likely bowing out of the FPV market, and heading in their own direction. Which means soon, DJI won't actually be an option for people moving from analogue to digital... hence Fatshark are stepping in with [currently] a system that's almost on par with DJI V2, but with hopes and dreams of surpassing the performance of DJI V2 with firmware updates and being a new system there's light at the end of the tunnel for future developments, better cameras, and in a few years a Fatshark V2 HD system for all the current DJI V2 users who can't buy anymore Air units/vistas.

Looking forward to DJI goggles V3, now that they made a transmission system that can send 1080P HDR signal over 4 miles. Realistically, anyone claiming to have better range than DJI is probably wrong.

Seconded. I didn’t expect a fully objective review given the business affiliations, but I’ve always defended Drew and RR. Been a fan of both since like 2016, and I still am (kinda). I understand that sometimes a company needs to make business decisions just to survive. I’ve always felt that a lot of the drama that followed RR around was just overblown tribalistic bullcrap. …Buuuut it is admittedly a bit disappointing to see RR choking this hard on the corporate shaft. I’m truly excited about a DJI alternative, but twice the range of DJI? Cmon now man… hype much?

@@abertheham facts! All this aside I'm still a big fan of Drew. Honestly his freestyle is right down my alley, he's got that flow factor that's exactly what I vibe with. I'm a filmer/skater and to me personally freestyle is about connecting the dots not necessarily how many cool tricks you can throw into an edit and drew nails this style imo.

@@skydogfpv Oh for sure man - agreed in full. That’s why I got hooked on his stuff all those years ago and why I still watch his edits today. He can definitely fly, but as importantly, he’s always made it easy on the eyes. He had some really helpful trick tutorials and reviews way back in the day too. Damn near bought some OG Skyzones and a Spektrum radio (gasp!) just because he used them 😂😂

It’s an ad not a review

Then crashes into the cable that he wasn’t able to see from latency or that blurring effect?

We mentioned all the negatives at the end. My reaction was genuine. SharkByte was also owned by RedCat…

Just for clarification… Rotor Riot and Fatshark are both owned by Redcat Holdings (as are several other companies - most notably, Teal). Your point remains. This is just a biased - if not entirely misleading - commercial.

@@abertheham my point above was that we didn’t say that SharkByte (also owned by RedCat - at the time) was the best thing since sliced bread. We were honest. Just like I was about my current experience. Don’t believe me, that is fine. I’ll be standing next to you in the bando flying twice as far. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

They are owned by redcat which owns fatshark. They will claim honesty to the death of them but they are arrogant and out of touch. Bubby blew off my criticism from the bardwell video which shows dji doing better by saying "you fly hdzero so it all makes sense now". The mentality of these people is pompous and deceitful

Wrong… My reaction was genuine. People said the same thing when we reviewed the DJI system 2.5 years ago. Called us liars. I didn’t say the Sharkbyte system was amazing, I was truthful. Same company…

@@LetsFlyRC im pretty sure that was before the red cat buyout of fat shark tho wasnt it?

Will you ever be happy with anything other than them purposefully setting the goggles on fire on camera while announcing that they are every single bit of the “bad guys” you imagine them to be?

@Dan Z honesty is the best policy, these clowns wouldn’t know a thing about it.

I wonder what Ian will do. I couldn't watch the entire video the quip at blind folks was too much.

@@sUASNews Somehow he had done it in anticipation on in that the night before released video. Mr. Steele did his video in a brand Ambassador style being so honest to tell viewers in that Video WATCH JB's video for technical details. Made me Smile for a moment and skipped his video to watch JB's again. Best of all: just 3 review units out View counters were 11 k JB, 9 k Mr. Steele and 4k for rotor riot 6 hours after Launch Not impressive for roughly 1 Mio subs ! Puts fpv in perspective being a small niche market

My reaction was genuine. I have no reason to lie. I have 50 air unit/vista setups. Switching will be VERY expensive for me.

Thank you!

Agreed. Shawn had the gall the lie to me that he retested avatar vs dji around trees just cause of my post that ratios their post and said he does get twice as far with walksnail with better performance and said the system only blacked out on Joshua's video cause of heat protection mode which joshua told me was off for his test lol. And bubby tried to share his 1080p dvr with me claiming it looks great but he was fooled by the fact that the location was all concrete. Whenever you pause and zoom in you can clearlybsee everything was smeared. They limited comments on my post and made it so you can't post pics on the post. Then they claimed they aren't paid to promote anything despite being all owned by redcat lololol. They are purely dishonest people. Then they started attacking me cause I fly hdzero and said that my views "make sense now" . They really are arrogant people who are out of touch with normal fpv pilots.

There is a reason they didn't.

Yeah I'm waiting to see how this system improves. I like a lot of the features. On paper they are almost everything I've been hoping for.

They're absolutely not showing what you will see following transmission to the goggles. They're showing what is being recorded straight to the onboard memory storage on the VTX. This fact alone proves the deceptive nature of their advertising. This should be a crime.

They did not get twice the range xD, they got to 2.39 km, that's make 1.24 miles. The fat shark walksnail system did 1.8 miles, sorry buddy your got damn wrong and bear in mind that it is only the beginning, this is a new system, and also i don't understand why you are interrested in this system as you already own a dji system ? xD the vid if you want to verify : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y7ObidWVxsDZZKc.html

@@jadoofpv3462 Here comes the interest police

@@calisti9308 i juste hate people that Say bullshit... Also it's really funny to see dji fpv system owner giving them self excuse to "not Switch"... Well you don't need to Switch, how much money do you have to be able to get two fpv system ??? I gess your richer then me, all of you.

@@jadoofpv3462 when you don't pay them, you can have all the systems you want

But...But...But...It's Fatshark.🤣

Eh screw size isn't an issue to myself. Easy fix either way.

But other than those minor issues they are fab! What a shocking launch, is this tickets for Fatshark I wonder

True, probably the least of their problems right now 😂

I think the latency requires more in-depth testing. Bardwell tested at 240fps which made each frame 4ms. That makes the margin of error for that test 4ms and given that the latency figures were out by the same amount, we need a more accurate test to see the true latency figures. His test was fine for a rough estimate but that’s about it for now. At 1000fps it’ll be roughly 1ms per frame and give us a much better idea of the true latency.

Just wait for DJI to come out with their new system

If analog 2.0 is your thing have at it.

@@creationlabsinc.189 Just bought a DJI, still can't find HDzero.

Same. With an arsenal of great quads all flying on DJI at the moment why on earth would I change them all to a slightly inferior more expensive system?

@RyanO I’m not sure if this was legit, but a while back I saw a video where the guy had a Crossfire module connected to the dji FPV remote v1 using the audio jack type port on the transmitter. Maybe that could be a solution?

just us a tx16s

@@MakoFPV don't like them. Way too many switches. I love the simplicity of the dji remote plus the ease of use. I got my son a mobula7 and jumper pro and it took 3 days before I figured out how to use edgedtx and elrs. And I'm still not sure if it's correct. Dji i can push a button and 100% perfect link.

@@watcanw8357 that could work. But at the same time no need to do the work if what I have already works. Id purchase the goggles for canvas mode if they were able to link to a dji vtx but highly unlikely to happen.

But you need to keep in mind dji was among the first to do hd fpv, it was expected by them to learn and improve. Fatshark has known what dji can do, and what the fpv community expects if they stand a chance to compete. 25mbps And high latency, and poor performance compared to dji/hdzero. There's no excuse to charge the price they are charging WITHOUT antennas, and the current performance. This is a rip-off if anything. 600 dollars for canvas mode and no antennas. Nah

@@holersh and oleds, i agree with most of your points, i dont think this is a rip off, unless you think the old analogue were also a rip off, no antenna and no receiver...... i suspect the profit margin for these new goggles is much lower than the older ones. you cheer everybody on in a marathon, but you cheer the fat guy on the most.

@@TheMadmacs sure, but the hobby has progressed enough for manufacturers to at the very minimum include antennas. And no, i dont cheer the fat guy in a marthon if he wants my money and isnt planning to better his ways

"You'll shoot your eye out" 🤣😂

Crossfire is sub par go get some elrs stuff and feel the future

Not like hdzero gave us that immediately

@@twistedfpv2283 well actually, it took them 6 months to put canvas mod in hdzero xD, so not really buddy...

@@jadoofpv3462 we got what we wanted right away. No bs like "we are working on it" like some of the other guys. Your making yourself look like an idiot

@@jadoofpv3462 6 months? You sure

Dude this is not a review. Rotor riot and fatshark are both the same company - redcat. Get informed, watch the other reviews out there. What you are seeing here is not the truth. It's just a shiny advertisement.

Not at all. This video wasn't impressive, didn't show any direct comparisons and just kinda seemed like hype. And the latency part is disingenuous. Saying you'll get 19-21ms latency on 720 and 39ms on 1080p without mentioning that's the fastest it'll ever be, but average latency is not that and the minimum number doesn't actually tell us anything of what the variability is like in flight. These are the same people that acted like school girls over the pre production version also, which multiple people ink ow who flew it told me it was not as good as dji not in image or performance. So then acting hype and making bold claims without any scientific testing or comparison just felt like one loooooong commercial. Dude said if he can fly through a tire 50 feet away behind a single think and broken down wall, that somehow means latency isn't an issue lol.

@@anthonyfpvminiquad1728 sure, absolutely. And it has a room for improvements. But my thought was, if DJI stop FPV tomorrow it won't die, it will live in this shape, will it be better or worse? Will see, but hd fpv won't die for sure.

It's the same company that makes the cameras for both systems.

Thanks. Just eating better and getting more exercise. I rollerblade a lot now.

Eat right and exercise. Love it when people flip out over common sense and a bit of dedication

@@creationlabsinc.189 if complimenting someone’s progress is flipping out, I guess you got me.