She never knew what the airplane was doing. Like a teen trying to drive a car while looking at her phone. Not competent hand flying. Predictable

From the videos that I’ve seen made by her with 2 different instructors and also with her father on board, I have to say that she was the worst 400+ hour pilot I’ve ever seen and I lay that squarely at the feet of the lousy, ineffectual, glad-handing instructing that was her grave fate to receive from those instructors. She and her dad died of what I call the “JFK Jr. Syndrome”. She was notably attractive and otherwise successful and her instructors appear to be simping more than instructing. None of them had the balls to tell her what she so desperately needed to hear because they didn’t want to say anything that might make her not like them.

She was incapable of driving a car. The aircraft was utterly beyond her and her lack of ability

Man that plane existed and made it through the late 60’s, all of the 70’s, 80’s, 90’s, 00’s, 10’s and 3 years of the 20’s before this incompetent lady got ahold of it. Very sad.

Wow. I watched several of her videos and have never seen such incompetence in a certified pilot. This was a 400 hour pilot? Unbelievable what basic good looks, reveling clothing and a desire for you tube stardom gets you.

Like my Dad would say, '' they ran out of experience and altitude at the same time'' !

She was behind the airplane and the autopilot, not proficient with the systems, not properly familiar with the process of consistantly, safely flying the plane. All of her videos in every plane showed she shouldn't have been checked off for solo flight, as she reacted too slowly or incorrectly in almost every adverse situation. In one vid, when dealing with losing the alternator (which her INSTRUCTOR had to bring to her attention), she couldnt deal with the steps required to conserve battery power without the instructor's help, and actually took time TO ADJUST HER GO-PRO CAMERA instead of working the problem. This is a heartbreakingly sad outcome, but not surprising given her skill level.

She should never have been flying that plane 4 weeks after demonstrating she has a very weak understanding of flying that craft. Who stares at the panel and says things like "Stop....stop it", as she is literally approaching a stall? Brutally painful to watch those videos knowing what we know today.

Listen people! She shouldn't have been in that plane. It's 💯 percent the Flight Instructor s fault allowing this to happen. Every video I ever watched of her she was wayyyyy behind that airplane.

From other videos I've watched it's obvious she didn't know much about flying. Her Instructor did most of the actual flying. She never should have been given a license.

She demonstrated in every one of her videos that she knew very little about the instrument paneling. Incompetence throughout the system allowed her to get a pilot license when she was obviously not qualified to

I've watched her flying videos and sad to say that she was way too easily distracted by the wrong things.

The plane was clearly overloaded with too many cases of simp sauce!

She was obviously unqualified to fly her plane. Watching her videos makes you see how incompetent she was. What a shame.

She didn't know how to disconnect the autopilot when she needed to. It looks to me like she let it fly them right into the ground. She was so shocked she didn't know what to do and froze. RIP.

According to a lot of the most respected aviation experts on youtube, this was no "accident". It was a reckless death march. She did not know how to operate her plane. Even an amateur like myself was disconcerted just watching some of her videos. Imagine a youtube channel with 16 year old going through the "learning to drive" process and seeing him swerving all over the road, seeing him not know where the brake pedal was, seeing him being unable to properly operate the steering wheel. People would be screaming in the comments "GET THE FUCK OFF THE ROAD!!!!" But somehow because she was reasonably attractive, it was all "entertainment" -- its always fun until someone loses an eye my grandma used to say -- or in this case two lives

After watching a little, he was no pilot either. She didn't know her avionics. She wasn't ready for that aircraft, or any aircraft solo. She didn't know how compasses work, etc. Etc. Etc. Her inability to hold the aircraft straight and level belies her skill level. 400 hours? Perhaps she just didnt have what it takes to be a pilot? Just because you can afford a plane doesnt mean you can be a pilot.

The video where she is driving a car and blows through multiple stop signs, almost hits another car, and then laughs it off as “rolling stops” tells me everything I need to know about her!

Not sure this tragedy should be called an “accident “. The basic lack of attention to and knowledge of a performance aircraft is dangerous, careless, and reckless. Seems her primary focus was to create an online persona while using aviation for sensation. The aircraft required full attention, respect, and skill. The misuse of the autopilot was not an accident. More like a reckless incident. Hopefully this incident will be used as a case study to teach others to be more cautious and responsible.

Although their deaths are tragic, the aircraft was too much for her. She was a minimal VFR pilot at best whose skills were lacking. Lessons could be learned from this tragic event.

Looking at the tracking, it's all over the place. They either were not paying attention to the basics while flying manually, or they were letting the AP run things and then reacting to the AP manually (my dumb opinion). If the AP is causing issues, they should have turned it off. Watching past video, it was scary that she would keep using the AP as it was pitching the aircraft nose up (very scary). I agree with other comments, she was way behind on technical skills in this aircraft. Did her dad have a pilot's license?

Boy this brings back memories. Years ago I was flying along in a E33 across Wyoming at about 12,500 it was the 1st of July. I saw a front ahead of me above my altitude, and there was a huge gap and blue sky on the backside that I could see, I hit it at about a 45° angle. All of the sudden I was getting buffed up and down, and my airspeed indicator was going all way up to the redline. With the airspeed indicator at 195 mph I pulled some of the power off and pulled the nose up gently but the airspeed indicator went up. I let the nose drop down a little bit and the airspeed went up I did this several times with no luck. So I pulled the power off all the way, and the only thing I could do to keep the airspeed out of the red line is let the airplane drop in level flight I tried putting the nose up down again, and the same thing happened. I could really hear the wind in the cockpit and knew the airplane was going really fast, I did not have the pitot heat on. That May have had something to do with it not sure to this day, when I got within about 2000 feet above ground I had to add the power back in and fly out of it even with a high airspeed or I would hit the ground. When it was over I decided to call it a day and landed in Buffalo Wyoming, at that time I only had about 125 hours total time and just over 20 hours in the E33.. I was lucky to live through it. It’s hard to believe that was 50 years ago. I am still flying to this day. Fly safe,

She was preoccupied with the autopilot, when she should've been flying the airplane

What a tragic waste of a beautiful Beechcraft Debonair.

After watching her videos you see a bunch of CFI moments not wanting to inform a pretty girl she has no business flying a plane. She was all about the Instagram pilot life, she got in over her head and her aircraft was to complicated for her and none of the simp CFI's or other people in her life told her to just stop and unfortunately she's dead because of it.

Who ever gave this lady a lincese to fly should be sued . Watching her fly that plane she obviously had no idea what to do Smdh

I was a very close friend of Jenny😢. I was mentoring her, commenting on every video, giving insight and suggestions. I told her that she needed to do 100% of everything, while hand flying. The autopilot is helpful sometimes, but not to be used as a crutch! Her instrument training wasn’t the best. She was doing too much filming, which degraded her learning. Just before this flight, I offered to fly there, and go as her copilot. She decided that it would be just her and her dad😞. Maybe, had I been there, this wouldn’t have happened!? RIP Jenny and Jim. Dave, 55 years flying, 28,000 hours logged and v tail Bonanza owner. I’m still in shock, and grieving…

Yes, saw where trim was climbing the aircraft and she was cursing the AP. Why didn’t she disconnect and INOP until fixed? Because she wasn’t ready for a complex HP plane. She was always nervous and behind the plane. She should have pulled the breaker and hand flew.

She drove like she flew. An ACE Forever. People that watched her videos could see her skill set.

I am an MEI/CFI/CFI-I. This is a tragic accident that hopefully new aviators will take a lesson from. Every accident is a learning experience - the fatal ones we REALLY need to pay attention to. Filming to be on KZfaq vs serious training and ALWAYS disconnect an AP when something not right are two biggest take aways. If others learn from this, her and her father’s death will not have been in vain. RIP to both

I flew my Debonair that same day (about same time) from Pulaski, TN to Ft Payne, AL. Weather was clear, no turbulence.

I have seen her videos, she was a newer pilot (2022) that was most of the time behind the Debonair and when she had avionics issues her head was mostly in the cockpit. Watching her IFR instruction videos it was obvious that her VFR skills still needed some work. The ForeFlight altitude and speed path makes it look like a runaway trim on a AP she was having issues with but there usually is minimum of 3 or 4 ways to disconnect. ATC audio and possibly if her own video survived would help to piece more of it together. Very sad situation.

It's unfair that she killed her Dad when she killed herself, I'm sure he'd give his life for hers, but he was just trying to be a good Dad and she killed him. The telemetry data shows a point where it seems to be "the beginning of the end." I suspect that in one of her undesired aircraft state occurrences, she may have damaged the plane or she tumbled the attitude indicator. Not sure of the system her aircraft had for determining the attitude if it was a traditional vacuum gyro or she had an electronic AHRS or similar. But I think she lost her reference to attitude and that was probably the instrument she fixated on while flying IFR. She seemed to be all over the ATT function on the AP and she most likely had a very poor scan. If the instrumentation lost reference to attitude, it was likely 5he beginning of the end for her. Without seeing that artificial horizon, she likely had no idea of the state of her aircraft. Normally, a scan of all the instruments would quickly indicate a tumbled or inoperative AI, but she most likely lacked that critical skill to notice a non functioning instrument. The wild pitch, climbs and descents track shows she was doing something to change the pitch of the aircraft but only after extreme changes in speed, she was just way too far behind the aircraft. A failed AI is a serious problem for even a competent pilot and effort must be made to ignore the erroneous indications and omit it from a good scan. She likely fixated on the airspeed and altimeter when things got crazy and failed to use the VSI and known familiar pitch and power combinations to maintain level flight and normal stabilized climbs and descents. If all you do is fixate on the AI and use an intermittently operative auto pilot to do most of the work while you haphazardly monitor the big picture, you are in big trouble when something fails. If you can't walk without a crutch and your crutch is not reliable, you have no business walking and definitely not letting your Dad piggyback. Sad situation.

400 hours and she was clueless on this plane..Instructor should have never allowed this to happen.Way too much plane for her…Spent too much time filming and dicking around with the auto pilot..Too distracted and she killed herself and her dad..

For what it is worth, an eyewitness claimed the plane was coming down at a 50 degree pitch and that the engine was operating. No spiral, no stall. Another well-respected YT content creator claimed that she screamed all the way down but I haven't been able to locate that recording.

The only tragedy here is someone signed her off on a high performance complex plane when it was clear she was not capable of handling the plane. She was behind the plane from the takeoff roll. This crash isn't so much of a surprise than a certainty.

Watching her videos, I was shocked at her confusion of the aircrafts controls. She obviously did not understand the auto pilot functions or input criteria. Her skill level was poor to be flying a high performance aircraft. Thankfully she didn't cause an accident affecting others.

Never ever trust your life to the autopilot! It’s designed to disengage at certain parameters and has a manual disengage button strategically placed on the yoke so YOU can over ride IT. If things are really really bad you can count on your autopilot to disengage at the worst possible moment!!!

I think she saw Stevie Triesenberg’s videos and thought “pretty blonde in a Bonanza? I can do that”. But Stevie is an excellent pilot, always ahead of the airplane and maintaining great comms with ATC. She also runs her checklists religiously. This girl was so far behind the aircraft, she probably STILL hasn’t arrived at the accident site. The guy in this video is just a time building chump, along for the ride. Any CFI who signed her off needs a visit from a FSDO rep with a shredder to dispose of their CFI tickets.

At 10:15 "Did something in the airplane break"? Oh it sure did. The auto pilot. And unfortunately that was the only way that she knew how to fly. 😔 Anytime that you are in the middle of a flight and your inexperienced passenger asks "Where are the circuit breakers"? And you the pilot tell him where they are and don't stop him, put the plane down and walk away. Yup, in one video her father was going to start screwing around with some circuit breakers. Good grief. Luckily he couldn't bend down and find them so he never did. Sorry if I sound harsh but this story struck me so I've been watching a lot of the footage that's available and she just didn't know how to fly. It literally boils down to that. It's that simple. 😞

I hate to see anyone Crash much less killed, But Flying Is Dangerous, And it was a 60 Years Ole Airplane. Rip My fellow Pilots.

As someone who knows I don’t have what it takes to be a pilot and also someone who hates flying, HOW TF did she get a license? When I saw that video of her it looked like something Id imagine myself to look like trying to fly.

I haven't flown as a PIC in 30 years. When I did fly, I rarely used autopilot. I would just trim the plane out and keep a couple fingers on the yoke. I just wonder if the younger generation isn't overly dependent on autopilot? Just like how I use the cruise control in my vehicles. It's a pain in my ass to go anywhere in the old shop pickup that the cruise doesn't work.

Most aircraft accidents tend to be caused by an accumulation of inflight anomalies that eventyally overcome the pilots ability to control the aircraft.

When i see "Plane crash" and "youtuber" in the same sentence i just think yeah i know what happened here

Too bad she didn't know how her AP worked. Didn't have to happen.

One of her videos she was lost while still in sight of the airport she took off from, she couldn’t use a compass a skill most cub scouts have mastered.

Its probably been said but her dad wasnt a pilot. RIP to both. Thankfully they didn't cause a mid air disaster and kill others.

Very sad, my condolences, and prayers to her family

Hey, Flightaware reports ground speed not airspeed. Jenny was always behind the airplane with poor piloting habits and procedures. I have a totally different opinion of what cause or led up to this accident. But she didn't belong in this airplane maybe no airplane. Airplanes to this pilot were the means to an objective and it wasn't aviation. I don't know this woman, but this accident follows some similar characteristics of at least two other accidents, one very recent at Oshkosh and another accident, non-fatal, nearly 90 years ago at Oakland, Ca. only leading to her eventual death.

I watched her videos and spoke about her auto pilot which she had a hard time to find a replacement

Another you tuber enamoured with being on camera. Flightbtrainubg and flying is no easy task. She flips her hair, its all about look at me. Sad, she asked her dad to check her airspeed at one point, and isnt a pilot.

Sad news.

I believe Ron Browne had a good take on it showing how the auto pilot works and how she was interacting with the autopilot.

Very sad prayers to family an friends 🙏🙏

I just don’t understand why she could not turn off the auto pilot. Why can you not override the auto pilot don’t understand that.

I was sitting outside this morning, on my porch, enjoying my first of several morning coffees, winds were calm, temperature in the low 70’s, clouds at 1000 feet easily…..excellent day for flying I thought to myself….then in the distance I saw it, a perfect flyby I thought, a little low but heck my ranch is isolated, and so as I continued to watch the approach I noticed not a real stall or spin but a steep dive and then without warning that Bird flew straight into my upstairs window pane bounced off and landed dead on my porch not 8 feet from me…..That’s the moment I too thought of Jenny….and thought hmmm why should her afterlife be any different than her first life…so I picked her up wrapped her in cloth placed her in a small wood box took her out to the fence line and buried her… came back to my coffee…winds were calm, temperature in the low 70’s, clouds at a 1000 feet easily….excellent day for flying I thought to myself………………..

Very sad 😢She was in completely over her head.

Crazy just absolutly crazy

My condolences

I disagree with you. In my 35 Bonanza, you don’t feel it when it goes into yellow arc. Bonanzas are notoriously smooth which is why so many died with overspeed and airplane breaking up.

im not a regular follower of her channel but what was her father's flying history how long was he a pilot

In one of her very recent videos, she had a very serious electrical problem that caused them to abort the pattern and return to a different location if I remember it correctly. The plane definitely had issues and was showing its age. It could be her attention was on something else going wrong and they failed to see the trim settings created by the AP. If there is a lesson learned...fly it by hand. So sad...a father and daughter lost but at least doing what they loved.

thanks for putting this together. she was an inspiration and it's tragic

Radio! Operative! To the tower, Debbie's coming in for a landing

My foreflight sound an alarm when I get into the yellow arc and when I get to my Dmms. Use technology. Speed alarms are great. Even apps for mph can be downloaded with alarms.

I don't think her filming really affected her. I think she would have been just as irresponsible without the camera. What shocks me is people tolerating her conplete irresponsibility. I feel sorry for her father. She could have killed a lot of people.

Crashed 20 miles from me.

Maybe getting a flight licence is easier than driving licence nowadays, if you have money?

The data was all over the place on this flight; seems to me there was something evil with that plane. How could two pilots, who have flown this problemed plane before, not gotten a handle on how to hand fly this aircraft - or grounded it?

It’s almost like the right side of those curves to the right go from relatives stability to almost a fugoid oscillation.

and I wager that you`re still trying to make excuses for her utter,utter hopeless flying ability!

She should not have been there!

Prelininary NTSB out todaysaid ATC had to keep warning her she was "off course" (not maintaining altitude?.) early in the flight. Said instruments were obliterated. Sound like it going to come down to a big guess based on ATC conversations.

Was her Dad a pilot?

Pride & ignorance killed her & her daddy.

A/P trimmed them.right into a stall. They scan was obviously off, they should have noticed a bleed off in air speed. Never flew one if these but I expect ~60kts indicated air speed reduction. Keep your scan going, THE ENTIRE FLIGHT

No idea how I ran across this but I think we’re about the same age and rode the same path back in the 80’s. I’ve been up and down Smedley road too many times to count. It was definitely legendary back in those days.

I doubt she had about 400 hours. If true, she should have retired from flying. Really. When VCR's came out, I saw women have the neighbor hook it up to TV.... then they just pushed buttons on it... and said ' it doesnt even work !!!! '.

The airspped was dramatic? What does that mean?

“Her and her father”? English as a second language. How many videos about her accident do we really need?

You know...

Check out Dan Gryder Probable Cause. He has a thorough breakdown of what he, and a few others, believe might’ve caused this unfortunate accident. Her videos leading up to this incident, that have been subsequently taken down, really illustrate these things and show just how much she was behind the Debonair and never fully grasped the AP & Trim condition that she kept getting caught up . This is not bashing her because we all make mistakes and go through phases of learning. I’m simply pointing out what could’ve happened in attempt to help us become more safe. Whether it was manually out of trim or not, we’re seeing way too many of these GA pilots making bad decisions, flying into IMC, leaning on the AP too much, and stacking the odds against them. So sad and RIP TNFlyGirl. 😢 *** If we don’t use these fatalities to learn, then we’re not being the best pilots we can be. Blue skies everyone. 🙏🏼

Incapacitated pilot and co-pilot. Perhaps carbon monoxide?? The auto pilot maintained the vector only and the altitude ocilations show the pilot losing attention to correct. The dad fell asleep then she passed out onto the yoke . I just have seen this before. So sorry.

Wow! Avoiding the obvious here and not helping anyone with this video. An unqualified pilot with a way too complex aircraft for her skillset. Always behind the plane. Other experts had the guts to be honest so people learn and maybe save future lives. This video is like all of the poor CFIs and enablers that contributed to this tragedy! Unsubscribed.

This is horrible news.

For some reason all the keyboard flyboys love to pile it on this girl who can't defend herself, give it a break you losers. I've known a lot of pilots, worked for one for 30 years, they all have something in common, they know it all...

Jenny was my Cousin who loved her hobby

This is what happens when they leave the kitchen and the laundry room. Just focus on the important stuff ladies. We’ll handle the rest.

Another former Ytuber pilot Nancy Bradshaw deactivated all of her pages due to negative comments. She wasn't confident wit her flying either. Stevie is another disaster to happen. Plus she's a a clout chaser wanting attention!!!! My opinion. #micdrop!!!!!

She wasn’t perfect but she wasn’t dangerous. I’m guessing heat on and carbon monoxide issues.

Remember when you have your whole life built around racism. There's a lot of experiences that you miss. That could quite very well save your life everybody knows how racist the Blade locks so obviously they missed a lot of life. Long experiences because they were wasting their time. All racist, tropes and ideology. Hopefully the rest of the country we'll take this to heart. Get off the racism, get on reality.

Thank God all the videos have been taken down.

It wasn't an accident. If you watch videos that show her flying this was sure to happen.

I'm not a pilot but from all the videos I've watched and seeing her struggling with autopilot and not knowing how to trim properly, I bet she panicked when she was at 97 mph climbing too high that she put the nose down to gain speed and wasn't strong enough to recover especially if she was trimmed down already before the autopilot was turned on so it was working against her. But that's just a guess.