I have both the X1C and the K1 Max side by side here in my office, and frankly I'd still say that the K1 Max can't even come close to the X1C out of the box. Even with it rooted and moonraker installed, tuned in etc, it isn't even close to the X1C in build quality, ease of use, print quality etc. That said, it's still an excellent machine, it just requires a lot more knowledge than the X1C to get running really nicely. It has some quirks, whereas my X1C has been flawless out of the box. For example, when I run input shaping using moonraker to PROPERLY tune both X AND Y, the default firmware only does X and applies the same value to Y which is useless, the entire machine crashes. The bed isn't even close to what I'd call flat and/or level from the factory, you can't adjust it with knobs since there aren't any, the ABL works, but can work better, the auto Z offset seems to be doing a great job for the most part but not perfect, I have gaps in my first layers a lot of the time in a lot of different places on the bed, the Lidar does nothing as far as I can tell and I've just stopped using it, my camera was laggy and disconnected all the time and required me to take the bottom panel off and mess with the wires. None of these things happened on the X1C, it just worked. I love having both though, the two of them are a KILLER combo.

​@@kylequinn1963I have heard the K1 MAX camera has really a decent frame rate compared to normal printer cameras. Was yours an early unit? I know they have changed the extruder about 5 times and the hotend a few times. Creality seems really dedicated to making it work, even if they did rush it out the door initially.

So you like that I'm British, not American? lol

There you are, well thanks very much for saving me the time to set this up! Helped a ton! and I'm glad I can show more people your work.

@@FauxHammerYou're quite welcome! Thanks for the shout out.

How much was it on BF? I'm looking to replace my Ender 3 Pro 400x400x500.

@@ronaldkennedy1406 I got the K1 Max for $950 CAD. Note that it has a 300x300x300mm build volume. Your Ender 3 Pro (with Ender Extender, correct?) has a larger build volume. After import taxes, the RatRig would have come down to about $2500 CAD. Import taxes made a big difference in my decision.

GET ONE!

I'm in a similar boat to you. Just ordered mine... After endless issues in my last Creality printer. Good luck to you!

I think you made a good call. I've had top move mine to fit a new review printer on my desk. and I miss it already.

I was to order the Bambu X1 Carbon, but a local reseller refused to give me the black Friday deal price. How does it compare to the Creality? I don't need color / AMS, but curious about print precision and speed.

@@fvandenpoel7627if I had to be honest, still prefer my Bambu. It just works. The K1 Max is good (when on discount) but had to root it to get things like input shaping and its really noisy!

Thanks so much, I'm glad I'm fun even with no product interest.

I have had the ender 3 s1 pro for almost a year. I can not seem to get it to print well anymore. Honestly I have spent hours trying. I just ordered a k1 max, hoping it gives me more usable prints.

Thanks mate, That is awesome! I was gonna go for a Riser as I mentioned, but had to move on to a new project.

thanks, but "you're" :P

Why do you want ABS? PETG is slightly stronger, higher elasticity higher uv resistance and higher cross layer strength/adhesion. It also warps less. Also far less toxic fumes when printed.

@@givemeanameman1 abs can be smoothed with acetone to reach gloss finish and in this case require little to none filler and requires far less sanding to remove print lines. When building rc trucks that are quite large and heavy (we're talking 1:10 scale) each and every gram shaven off the body (ew. filler puty/filler primer) is worth it's weight in gold (eg to lower the center of gravity).

@@nathandrel Thanks for the reply, I'm new to 3d printing and lack in depth experience, so information like this is very helpful.

@@givemeanameman1 no prob, you made some valid points, if this was for cosplay only I would sticm with petg, had some great props made with this material that stood test of time. Rc modelling is a different animal, and I know it is a niche, yet always good to ask :).

You don't want to try to use ASA instead of ABS?

It's from Nikko Industries

What have Creality said? obviously mine has bbeen fine, but sounds like you have a lemon... what slicer do you use?

I purchased mine end of July and machine printed 5-10 prints amazingly, they were quick and looked great! Then during a self check the nozzle/bed issues happened. Creality took 2 weeks to respond to my initial email asking to replace the machine, they said: before we do that we have to try and troubleshoot the issue, and sent me a new motherboard. They sent me a ender 3 nozzle instead of a motherboard, and I told them this and they don’t respond for another 7 days… then they sent me leveling gauges (which dhl lost), this is now 30days since I’ve first contacted them! Then upon requesting for a replacement machine or a refund their response was “sorry, we can only refund after 14days and replacing a machine is only available for 30days after purchase” They then sent me new gauges again and after replacing them, the machine worked fine for two days…. So basically my machines been F*d since mid August, I basically have a $1000 fragile box on the floor. They finally sent me an email last night or two nights ago saying they’ll send me a return receipt and they’ll send me a new machine… now I just have to wait 14days to get their supervisor to approve getting me a label and I wouldn’t be surprised if they keep the machine and never respond to my emails after.

Sorry, I use the creality slicer since that’s what it recommended to use

I turned it on and pressed print. If a printed doesn’t work out the box nowadays then the problem is either the fillament or a bad printer. With all the comments I’ve had on this, I feel I was just lucky

never before in my life have I wanted less head.

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I think the k1 was the bad one but the k1 max was liked by everyone. Thats from the couple youtubers i know

I like the K1 (don’t have a Max yet) and can say that for ME, the K1 works every time. With the N4Pro I have, it seems like I have to keep fiddling with getting the bed level and adjusting the z offset in order to get a decent print. Then if by chance I want to take advantage of the speed of the N4, the bed shakes so much it actually unscrews the bed leveling wheels and they fall off. That can’t happen with the K1.

After the updates to the K1 line that creality has made since its release means it’s essentially the fastest, simple-esque printer that exists now with the sale prices that exist currently as they changed the hot end and the extruder mechanism to be stronger

Got the k1 and k1 max and I love them both, no problems and of course root access with clean fluidd installation

I’ve got a k1 and haven’t had any issues with it. You need to check the date of the reviews. As has been said the original batches had issues but the new ones are being reviewed without any (major) issues showing up. Things like needing to print risers to keep lid out of the way and maybe new door hinges to avoid damaging the glass is all. K1 max came out later and I have not seen anything problematic in the reviews.

honestly no, I got an email from the Creality Cloud team last week asking me if I'd like to promote it. I decided not to reply.

eh?

Why blame the company if the delivery people damaged it?

​@@bryanfoster362 Who said the delivery company broke it? My first K1 I bought from Microcenter, and it was broken out of the box with it throwing hardware errors constantly. I did figure out what the errors were, but it would have cost me about $150 in replacement parts if I wanted it fixed quickly, or it would have been a long wait/fight with Creality support to get it fixed all while it's out of action, so I put it back in the box and returned it. Two weeks later I decided to try again. Out of the box the 2nd K1 had the mother of all heatbreak clogs. Seriously, it was like whoever tested it at the factor had slowly pulled semi-molten filament back up the heatbreak where it solidified right up to the top of the heatsink. I had to remove the nozzle and the extruder, turn on the hot end, and jam the provided metal rod up from the bottom to get the bulk of the clog out, and then followed up with a 5/64" drill bit to clear out the remainder that was still gumming up filament fed from the top. Then the bed had a full 2.0mm slant due to z-axis lead screw misalignment. I loosened the Z-belt and skipped teeth on the lead screws until the slant was gone. The input shaper is faulty out of the box with it assigning the Y-axis calibration to both axes. I got that resolved by rooting the firmware and applying a community sourced fix. Then there's the fairly awful VFA's introduced by the stepper motors and Creality's use of a 36 teeth pulleys on their steppers, instead of the 20 teeth pulleys that everyone else uses. Pretty much any speed below 200mm/s will end up with strong vertical banding VFA's introduced by the steppers. After careful tuning of the slicer settings to avoid problem speeds I've finally gotten it to a point where it produces acceptable quality prints. I've decided to keep this 2nd printer, but it is very far from a "works just right out of the box" experience.

@@bryanfoster362 the exterior box was in perfect shape for both. The second max didn't have any of the wire managment covers. The harnesses were just hanging in the machine. Fed ex definitly opened it, removed and pulled all the wires into the build volume. And closed it up.