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Fear of Intimacy Rationalized

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Prof. Sam Vaknin

Prof. Sam Vaknin

Күн бұрын

Everything You Need to Know about Narcissists, Psychopaths, and Abuse - click on this link: www.narcissisti...
Fear of Intimacy
The inner dialog, inner script, of people who fear intimacy is comprised of several strands:
This (potential) intimate partner will destroy my life. I will be left with nothing and no one;
I am no good. I am crazy. I will hurt this (potential) intimate partner and destroy his or her life. I must get away from him/her for his/her own good;
Devaluing the (potential) intimate partner: focusing on his weaknesses, shortcomings, mistakes, misjudgements, and failures;
Imagining the future with the (potential) intimate partner as bleak, unpleasant, with bad, painful outcomes ("He will anyhow leave me, hurt me, or living with him will be dull and oppressive");
Distrusting the (potential) intimate partner to make one happy, disbelieving his/her intentions, feeling that (s)he is manipulating and imprisoning one;
Doubting one's own judgement, one's ability to choose right and appraise the situation correctly;
Diffuse anxiety, an uncomfortable but fuzzy sensation that something real bad is happening or about to happen and one needs to get away before the catastrophe hits.
(From the book "Malignant Self-love: Narcissism Revisited" by Sam Vaknin - Click on this link to purchase the print book, or 16 e-books, or 3 DVDs with 16 hours of video lectures on narcissists, psychopaths, and abuse in relationships: www.narcissisti...)

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@christiea772
@christiea772 2 жыл бұрын
A relationship with an avoidant is not a relationship. You’ll feel more alone with them than by yourself, you’ll end up confused and doubting yourself. The more you love them the deeper the wound/trauma. It will cost you your time, youth, mental health even physical and financial health. You have been warned.
@LisaRichards_123
@LisaRichards_123 7 жыл бұрын
Fear of intimacy is essentially fear of oneself, as much as it is fear of one's partner.
@LisaRichards_123
@LisaRichards_123 6 жыл бұрын
That is exactly what I am talking about.. People get insecure and they don't trust themselves, but they make it about not trusting the other person.
@caucasianafrican1435
@caucasianafrican1435 6 жыл бұрын
John Yin Hi Twin! Damn, you sound like me. It's amazing how many of us wounded souls have responded to the hurt in very similar ways.
@caucasianafrican1435
@caucasianafrican1435 6 жыл бұрын
lisa richards That's an interesting incite.
@cherisunday
@cherisunday 7 жыл бұрын
On this subject, I've pondered for many years. Having been raised by a pair of narcissistic parents, freedom became so important in my life. My search for an intimate partner has come to an end, although married and divorced a few times, I was unable to find a suitable mate, which after some time left me resolved, and disinterested, especially with appraising so many situations which none of them were worthwhile to pursue, and lacked opportunities for spiritual growth...knowing too well no one can make me happy, when too often I feel exploited, due to what I call "relationship burn out", however no one should expect anyone to make them happy. I seek solitude, and comfort in research on varied subjects. When it comes to intimacy, it's more of a hit and run situation, I love my freedom too much, time waits for no one. LOL!! Thank you Sam, love this video. x0x
@ufo717212
@ufo717212 6 жыл бұрын
Fear of exposing vulnerability? Checked. Distrust of a friendly world and future? Checked. The world is a hostile jungle? Checked. Believe the partner will end up hurting myself? Checked. Devaluing intimate partner? Checked. Intimacy threatens the control of my own life? Checked. Doubt my ability to read other people? Checked. A little bit of my own rationales: I lost faith in humanity in general. I believe most people are selfish and greedy even in disguise of their friendly manifestation. In a long term intimate relationship or friendship, one always destines to get tired or bored of the other half and take the partner for granted. People love fresh exciting things and hate old well-worn stuff. I always try to keep distance from people so that they will lost the freshness and curiosity of knowing me too soon. As you said, I fear having a miserable ending of an intimate relationship. Therefore I always avoid starting one. Sir, you did a very complete analysis on the root of intimacy issues. I have to say you help dig out more profound insights of my own personality. Thank you so much for making this video. I really hope you can make another video on how one can relive or even cure intimacy issues and how one can overcome the pessimistic expectancy of the world and people.
@anakein
@anakein 6 жыл бұрын
Do not fear being vulnerable. How grievously can anybody hurt you after all? And if at all they do, shouldn't your self-compassion be enough to heal you in the days and months that follow? Do you for some reason feel that another person may end up wielding more power over you than you yourself do?
@lindu7802
@lindu7802 5 жыл бұрын
anakein Thank you so much
@cloudyskyeez
@cloudyskyeez 7 жыл бұрын
Or if you fear intimacy, you are attracted to people who are emotionally unavailable and fear commitment. Or vice versa.
@samvaknin
@samvaknin 7 жыл бұрын
True.
@MsLoila
@MsLoila 3 жыл бұрын
Why are emotionally unavailable always regarded as commitment phobic? In the previous relationship that I had I think my ex had fear of intimacy and I would largely regard him as a emotionally unavailable and myself as commitment phobic .
@OneHope4Heaven
@OneHope4Heaven 7 жыл бұрын
I think those of us empaths who grew up in narcissistic family structures tend to subconsciously pick out partners with the same characteristics as the parent of the opposite sex. It's been said that in doing so, people are more comfortable with what's familiar because they already know how to deal with it as opposed to the unfamiliar territory of knowing how to deal with someone who might be a much healthier choice. They may also feel, to a degree, unworthy of a nurturing and emotionally healthy partner. Because of that, it makes it difficult for empaths to trust their own judgment when connecting with someone. I know that's the case for me. And because of that, I actually prefer to stay single instead of suffering the consequences of subconsciously picking out another abusive and or disrespectful boyfriend. I just can't trust my own judgement and find that I still can't manage to pick out someone worthy of me. Looking back on my earlier relationships, I think I used to feel that at some point, the relationship will ultimately fall apart because I wasn't 100% whole - that is, I felt flawed, and that this would be the downfall of the relationship - that I failed the other person in that sense.... and that they'd find out I was "damaged goods" & want to leave. It's a very difficult thing to overcome. My self-esteem has improved a lot since then (high school & early 20s) & I'm not as bad off now as what I've just described. But given my age, I would rather suffer the loneliness then deal with another destructive relationship because I'm just getting too old to overcome the damage & pain the abuse causes. I would love to be proved wrong in that sense, but I have yet to meet a romantic partner who has treated me with the same level of respect, dignity, love & caring I've always given in the past.
@cherisunday
@cherisunday 7 жыл бұрын
1 Hope 4 Heaven: Sometimes abused people look for partners to fix and resolve anger over their abusive narcissistic parents. Of course it can't be done, once you know this truth, it will help you choose partners more wisely or repair an existing relationship. I know it's hard to believe we still try fixing something we the victims never broke. If you still have a chance of going back to visit your parents, forgive them and yourself as well...it can bring inner peace. Blessings.
@NobleNemesis
@NobleNemesis 6 жыл бұрын
So me rn
@rebeccastahle4521
@rebeccastahle4521 5 жыл бұрын
It's not always the parent of the opposite sex. I have repeadidly engaged in relationships who are male versions of my narc mother.
@healthycyclist898
@healthycyclist898 2 жыл бұрын
Came to the same conclusion. Keep those who you love the farthest away from you
@laralilyLaraMaljevac
@laralilyLaraMaljevac Жыл бұрын
( no such things as empaths lol)
@roxannek4618
@roxannek4618 2 жыл бұрын
No one is born with a fear of intimacy, in fact, it is the foundation upon which our birth into the world is built. However, everyone who has been traumitised, has fear of intimacy. It's rational when you think about it that way
@sepimaganu228
@sepimaganu228 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sam. I dated someone with MS, and he did tell me at times when he pushed me away it was nothing that I had done, but it happened after we had had the best time together. I was always made to feel I need to keep at arms length for us to remain in a relationship, but it was torturuous, and lonely. I know now that it will never work, but with his MS I feel I cannot treat the situation like I normally would. Block him and forget him because in actual fact, his future is not like ours. I don't want to be his intimate partner but I don't want to abandon him as a person. However, our last interaction, he seemed to hate me...I guess I was devalued. Difficult one.
@christiea772
@christiea772 2 жыл бұрын
What do you want for yourself? To live in constant heartbreak whilst being with this person or to give yourself to grieve and find yourself or maybe someone else that wants to be with you.
@Sarah-dn7ed
@Sarah-dn7ed 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, perfect description of the mental disorder. Nothing to do about it as long as the narcissist ist not self-aware. Thank you.
@d.h.2942
@d.h.2942 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sam. You hit it at ever point and every level.
@popeyethepirate5473
@popeyethepirate5473 6 жыл бұрын
To me... Love is like a hot stove. Damnit why am I so broken!
@BlueSkyBS
@BlueSkyBS 4 жыл бұрын
It's not catastrophizing if it is true. And it is.
@johnchristian1545
@johnchristian1545 6 жыл бұрын
very helpful. thank you. I really never thought of it this way. I suffer from fear of intimacy.
@MargaritaHunter
@MargaritaHunter 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your insights (in this video and others). You are of great service to many (narcissists and "victims" ). I would sign every word as my perception is exactly the same on your topics.
@gryffynda1
@gryffynda1 7 жыл бұрын
A psychopath once told me that people feel the need to get together (intimacy) because of lack of self esteem. He had a good point.
@gryffynda1
@gryffynda1 7 жыл бұрын
Somehow I doubt it would work ...
@gryffynda1
@gryffynda1 7 жыл бұрын
Needing people and supporting people in general is one thing -- "intimacy" is quite different.
@gryffynda1
@gryffynda1 7 жыл бұрын
Nature's method of getting people to propagate.
@gryffynda1
@gryffynda1 7 жыл бұрын
Ahhh ... but they all get tired of fruiting and multiplying with the same partner, and go online for a more fruitful time of it! The whole premise is now obsolete.
@gryffynda1
@gryffynda1 7 жыл бұрын
From my point of view, it's more like putting one's life on hold hoping that one will get this elusive "intimacy", and then finally realizing that time's awasting while one should be living and following one's own personal dreams in one's own personal way. Instead of being afraid of intimacy, the fear was NOT getting it, and then realizing it is not the end of the world -- just the beginning! As you say, it is only for some people, and not for others. I do agree on your curse-lust-bondage points, however.
@marytitus88
@marytitus88 2 жыл бұрын
0:33 No I just have a massive fear of engulfment and being around someone that will threaten my stability and peace of mind.
@christiea772
@christiea772 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant analysis Dr. Vaknin.
@Sophie-uc8vp
@Sophie-uc8vp 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Prof Vaknin, you always make feel better when the tumultuous aftershocks of that dreadful relationship rear its ugly head
@terejov
@terejov 5 жыл бұрын
You just described me
@ironjohnjohn9288
@ironjohnjohn9288 7 жыл бұрын
Seems a little strange to point out all of this without mentioning childhood. All these negative beliefs about intimacy clearly stem from earlier development. What are the odds people like this will be able to face things without crumbling in to crippling shame or ruthelssly blaming anything outside of themself?
@cherisunday
@cherisunday 7 жыл бұрын
Iron JohnJohn/// only when they make peace with themselves.
@qingye8547
@qingye8547 6 жыл бұрын
When you don't have to fear intimacy with a person/when they mean well for you, are not trying to hurt you, and actually like you as a person: when they worry about you, protect you, give you advice, and try to help you out like a mom or a dad would, (not because it is their Hispanic, Asian, or Black Culture for them to do that, but because they actually like you, are scared for you with the path that you have chosen, and only want to see very good things happen to you 😉.) (Partner's account)
@suzanneschannel1
@suzanneschannel1 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Great analysis.
@TheTAEclub
@TheTAEclub 5 жыл бұрын
Very well rationalized
@adamcleare8872
@adamcleare8872 4 жыл бұрын
you right
@annieb.
@annieb. 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! I undrstand now what happened to my marriage!
@stancollins6593
@stancollins6593 7 жыл бұрын
Is there no way for a cerebral narcissist to promote a false self which allows and doesn't reject intimacy? Is the fear that originates in a lot of us too ingrained, or can it be trained?
@sorrelbee113
@sorrelbee113 6 жыл бұрын
I think at least some of us can adapt to intimacy. Certainly not perfectly, but with work we can to a degree. Ultimately it's better for us, and while that is ugly, nasty work to try to recognize, it's true and I think many of us can reach that conclusion eventually. Implementing an adaptive strategy is difficult; for me it's taken a comorbid borderline personality disorder (fp attachments speed the process up quite a bit) and lots of therapy, and I don't always like to comsider the need or the process, because it feels very vulnerable- but it's getting there.
@ckobesko
@ckobesko 4 жыл бұрын
That's also when the begin to devalue
@momto3souls58
@momto3souls58 6 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent commentary about fear of intimacy. May I ask though, how does fear of intimacy translate to the mind if a narcissist? Is it possible that fear of intimacy also drives the narcissist’s behavior?
@samvaknin
@samvaknin 6 жыл бұрын
Approach-Avoidance Repetition Complex and Fear of Intimacy groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/narcissisticabuse/conversations/messages/5000
@DesecrationUK
@DesecrationUK 7 жыл бұрын
Generally speaking, do you think it's possible for people like that to overcome their issues? Or even just manage their fears, if they're stuck with them?
@samvaknin
@samvaknin 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is possible with the right partner and in therapy.
@sirrantsalott
@sirrantsalott 6 жыл бұрын
Alice Darque I’d leave him. There are 7.2B people in the world and half are men. And this only affects about 0.5-1% people in the world, you’re better off finding someone new and you wouldn’t have to go through the same old bullshit each time.
@ellenhayes3447
@ellenhayes3447 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sam for your insight and all your information you have given. I have struggled for two years now with my boyfriend fearing intimacy and commitment . He causes great distress every time we seem to get close. Please tell me does this behaviour mean he is a narcissist or is it possible to behave like this if one is not a narcissist ? He pleads for me to forgive his silent periods of a few days each time he ends the relationship. He did love bomb me and the cycle seems narcissistic but there are aspects where he appears to be sorry and feel love and becomes very close. I have definitely dated a narcissist and this feels different , more loving. He is 52 years old so it’s not a commitment phobia of a teenager. Thank you.
@samvaknin
@samvaknin 6 жыл бұрын
Commitmentphobia and fear of intimacy are not exclusive to narcissists. Approach-Avoidance Repetition Complex and Fear of Intimacy groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/narcissisticabuse/conversations/messages/5000
@ellenhayes3447
@ellenhayes3447 6 жыл бұрын
I can’t thank you enough for your work Sam and thanks for your reply this gives me hope.
@retrobones8951
@retrobones8951 2 жыл бұрын
I never knew I had fear of intimacy because I dated a serial cheater and liar for over 5 years but now I think that’s why I dated him in the first place and now I’m with a really awesome guy but I feel very uneasy having no turbulence no arguments and nothing to worry about 😓 and since having my daughter and getting sober realized I’m scared of sex and intimacy and used alcohol to cope but that’s not an option anymore because it made me have postpartum rage and depression when I tried to go back to drinking. So I’m sober for the first time in like 12 years for the past year
@callisto9149
@callisto9149 4 жыл бұрын
Can a narcissist really change? Or is change just a foreshadow of another tsunami? It feels like you're going crazy working on a relationship, never knowing what's real and what is pathological... I know someone who has a tendency to display a few narcissistic traits. I wish he had a better start, I think he's changing. Trying to, I want to believe people can change and be forgiven. For myself included. ❤ Be kind to yourself lovelies!
@giri.goyo_yt
@giri.goyo_yt 5 жыл бұрын
This is the stuff Blues songs are made of. Emotional to hear with no resolution but ultimately you want to be reminded by its truth and resonance.
@SHUBINRECORDS
@SHUBINRECORDS 6 жыл бұрын
Sam Vakin has is locked !!!!!!!!!!!!!
@brianmedium7265
@brianmedium7265 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video does subconcious reprogramming like NLP work on NPD? If not why not?
@samvaknin
@samvaknin 6 жыл бұрын
Healing and Curing Narcissism vaksam.tripod.com/faq63.html vaksam.tripod.com/faq77.html vaksam.tripod.com/faq70.html vaksam.tripod.com/faq12.html vaksam.tripod.com/10.html vaksam.tripod.com/case03.html vaksam.tripod.com/faq31.html vaksam.tripod.com/abusefamily8.html vaksam.tripod.com/personalitydisorders37.html vaksam.tripod.com/personalitydisorders45.html
@mottedreissig7874
@mottedreissig7874 6 жыл бұрын
Dear Sam! Thank your for all the insights you give with your videos. There is still one question unanswered for me: are there traits in the character or signs which exclude a narcissistic disorder? I am almost certain, that my ex is a narcissist. But one can discern a "narcissistic" behavior to a certain extend in almost anybody (including me in myself). And narcissist can at least appear to be very considerate, empathic. We do have ongoing custody and visitation battles for 7 years now (we have joint custody and our son stays 40% of the time with his dad) and i find it hard to differentiate, if he is indeed a malignant narcissist or his hate and disdain which he displays on so many occasions, is "only" nurtured by the circumstances.
@samvaknin
@samvaknin 6 жыл бұрын
Only a qualified mental health diagnostician can determine whether someone suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) and this, following lengthy tests and personal interviews. These may be of help - click on the links: vaksam.tripod.com/1.html vaksam.tripod.com/npdglance.html vaksam.tripod.com/faq82.html vaksam.tripod.com/faqpd.html
@Serenity__369
@Serenity__369 6 жыл бұрын
I have a narcissist mother who refuses to visit a psychologist and i am so tired and exhausted ... wht can i do :(
@valsedonia
@valsedonia 6 жыл бұрын
nour happy Stay away from her as much as you possibly can.
@samvaknin
@samvaknin 6 жыл бұрын
Narcissistic and Psychopathic Parents and Their Children groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/narcissisticabuse/conversations/messages/4727
@Serenity__369
@Serenity__369 6 жыл бұрын
Thank youuuu
@sorrelbee113
@sorrelbee113 6 жыл бұрын
If she's toxic or abusive, weigh the cost-benefit of creating more distance and boundaries, or suspending or cutting contact indefinitely or permanently. That is of course a personal choice, and almost always a very difficult one, and it will probably not feel clear and linear, but it may help you a great deal.
@mekudu-man3804
@mekudu-man3804 4 жыл бұрын
8:24
@peterdeneke8401
@peterdeneke8401 4 жыл бұрын
How can a person get healed from this.?
@sherinoxon5223
@sherinoxon5223 6 жыл бұрын
Perfect articulation of the experience.. I will show my clients this.
@AE-vu9rz
@AE-vu9rz 6 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to cure narcissism with professional help?
@samvaknin
@samvaknin 6 жыл бұрын
Healing and Curing Narcissism vaksam.tripod.com/faq77.html vaksam.tripod.com/faq63.html vaksam.tripod.com/faq70.html vaksam.tripod.com/faq12.html vaksam.tripod.com/10.html vaksam.tripod.com/case03.html vaksam.tripod.com/faq31.html vaksam.tripod.com/abusefamily8.html vaksam.tripod.com/personalitydisorders37.html vaksam.tripod.com/personalitydisorders45.html Links to Therapist Directories, Psychological Tests, NPD Resources, Support Groups for narcissists and their victims, and Tutorials: groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/narcissisticabuse/conversations/messages/5458 Support groups for victims of narcissists and psychopaths (and one or two groups for narcissists) dmoz.org/Health/Mental_Health/Disorders/Personality/Narcissistic/Support_Groups/
@eliexo2525
@eliexo2525 5 жыл бұрын
Well damn...
@CockTailRapz
@CockTailRapz Жыл бұрын
Reminder to myself: 5:24-6:13
@CockTailRapz
@CockTailRapz Жыл бұрын
7:15-7:44
@CockTailRapz
@CockTailRapz Жыл бұрын
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@romiblido6533
@romiblido6533 4 жыл бұрын
i watched all your videos i am fan....i have thiis...what is the solutin
@CaptainNippon
@CaptainNippon 5 жыл бұрын
I recently ended a 5 years friendship with a lovely, beautiful and smart girl, super cute when she wears her black glasses. It happened so fast and completely unexpected it left me shattered and broken right now. As it turns out my friend has a "Fear of Intimacy", and I only found that out after I read her breakup text to me. I have always suspected she may have a mental health issue like anxiety or bipolar disorder but I never really confront her about these things. I am not entirely sure if she even knows she has these mental health issues. She's always friendly, polite and kind and never raise her voice at me, not once in the 5 years we have known each other. Unlike me. Throughout the years I wanted more than just a friendship, I wanted an intimate relationship. She outright rejected me every time. No kisses, no hugs, no holding hands and told me friendship is all she has to offer. We don't even exchange Christmas presents because it scares her. Recently a third party was trying to divide us apart so he can be with her, he may have succeeded. I highly doubt she wants to be with this guy person, they only recently met through me. He secretly asked her to go to events with him, she may have gone with him. When i confront her about this I yelled at scream at her. I am really ashamed and embarrassed by this and regrets it deeply. I shouldn't have lost my temper. We have known each other for almost 5 years, we went to Vietnam, Japan and Quebec city together for the winter festival. And now we are no longer friends, I am completely heartbroken and fearful that I may never see my lovely and beautiful friend again. What should I do now? Is this over for us? Will there ever be a chance she'll reach out to me in the coming weeks/months? I like to help her and support her and do what I can. I don't want to reach out to her anymore because she's a very timid person, so I don't want to scare or terrify her in any way. Had I known what I know now, I would have been less forceful. I know mental health is a serious issue and it was completely unfair to her, what fool I am. I may have lost the most important person in my life.
@ronimausanti9625
@ronimausanti9625 4 жыл бұрын
She was only ever a friend to you. Don't befriend someone you love, you're bound to hurt yourself (and her as well). Focus on your life and tell yourself you never truly loved her. It was infatuation
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