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@robthomas4237
@robthomas4237 3 жыл бұрын
The reason they called it “the troubles” was to avoid calling it a war so they wouldn’t lose face to other countries. I’m reality it was a low intensity war.
@gavinhillick
@gavinhillick 3 жыл бұрын
Don't feel bad for being an American who doesn't know about the events on a little island across the ocean. You're actually trying to learn and doing so very respectfully. It takes a lot of courage to do this on camera so you have a ton of respect from me. Speaking of understatements, the Second World War was called "The Emergency" here in Ireland. The name of the 1840s famine in the Irish language translates as "The Great Hunger".
@hannahoconnell7324
@hannahoconnell7324 3 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more, I'm just happy people are interested and want to learn about it. - btw I think I clicked the dislike button when I was trying to reply haha- so apologies for that. :)
@shamrockgerry
@shamrockgerry 3 жыл бұрын
Its a crap song zombie... Irish rebellion song are the best
@Coco-xb4qd
@Coco-xb4qd 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of people don’t realise that the song “Zombie” by the Cranberries is about The Troubles.
@aodhanmccrudden5730
@aodhanmccrudden5730 3 жыл бұрын
I do and Dreams is another one
@Coco-xb4qd
@Coco-xb4qd 3 жыл бұрын
@nietzsche not everyone knows 🙄 I doubt half of the world’s population even knows that NI exists.
@BMoney8600
@BMoney8600 3 жыл бұрын
I love that song but I never knew it was about The Troubles I knew it was about conflict from the lyrics but I never knew it was about The Troubles.
@BMoney8600
@BMoney8600 3 жыл бұрын
@nietzscheI’ve watched the music video to the song but I have never noticed the soldiers in it. I’ll re-watch it, thank you for sharing.
@FINNSTIGAT0R
@FINNSTIGAT0R 3 жыл бұрын
I actually did, but it was another song that recently made me look into the history of the Troubles and it was, boringly and unsurprisingly, U2's Sunday Bloody Sunday
@PhilHoy97
@PhilHoy97 3 жыл бұрын
I said this another reaction vid to this. The conflict was not/ is not actually about religion, it’s about politics/culture/ethnicity and the legacy of colonialism. It’s better to talk about Unionists/Loyalists and Nationalists/Republicans than Protestants and Catholics.
@placebo141
@placebo141 3 жыл бұрын
The British love making it about religion because it trivialises the conflict in Ireland
@PhilHoy97
@PhilHoy97 3 жыл бұрын
@@placebo141 exactly. People weren’t killing each other over transubstantiation. It was because one group of people was being systemically oppressed by the government who used the other group of people as pawns to carry this out
@caolancampbell6503
@caolancampbell6503 3 жыл бұрын
Correct
@barra6709
@barra6709 3 жыл бұрын
@@placebo141 Exactly. The Irish Republican movement started out as the Society of United Irishmen in 1791. Literally everyone of it's founders were Irish Protestants including Wolfe Tone which lead the 1798 rebellion. Parnell led the Home rule movement and Douglas Hyde was the first elected president of Ireland. We grew learning about these Irish Protestant heros as well as symbolizing them in our flag as Orange.
@RobertK1993
@RobertK1993 2 жыл бұрын
@@vwt5touringscotland453 British rule is for losers that hate thier country including in Scotland and Wales.
@aidanmoran12
@aidanmoran12 3 жыл бұрын
Theres actually 2 separate bloody sundays in Irish history
@higuk999
@higuk999 3 жыл бұрын
4 I believe actually all in the 19th century
@irishrepublican3739
@irishrepublican3739 3 жыл бұрын
Gareth O'Hare 2 in the 20th century pal
@jimbo3
@jimbo3 3 жыл бұрын
3 Bloody Sundays in Ireland in the 20th century that I know of, 1920, 1921, 1972. But who's counting?
@irishrepublican3739
@irishrepublican3739 3 жыл бұрын
James O'Callahan aye definitely🇮🇪
@tiernanwearen8096
@tiernanwearen8096 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimbo3 1921?
@notbatman7331
@notbatman7331 3 жыл бұрын
As someone born and raised in West Belfast in the early 80s and lived through the war, lost family and friends, even been in prison due to the circumstances in which I was surrounded, its refreshing to see an American NOT be all American about this place. Well done.
@padraigpearse1551
@padraigpearse1551 3 жыл бұрын
As someone from derry I thank you for watching this
@MultiMedia611
@MultiMedia611 3 жыл бұрын
Londonderry
@padraigpearse1551
@padraigpearse1551 3 жыл бұрын
@@MultiMedia611dont start im really not up for it call it whatever you want just dont force it on others
@georginabarratt3992
@georginabarratt3992 3 жыл бұрын
Stroke City.
@garyb5998
@garyb5998 3 жыл бұрын
And Respect from béal Feirste.. ( Belfast ) 💪🇮🇪
@georanger6180
@georanger6180 3 жыл бұрын
That must be rough
@jencheevers983
@jencheevers983 3 жыл бұрын
Tragically,there was more than one Bloody Sunday in Ireland.The one most people are aware of is Bloody Sunday in 1972.Thank you for reacting to this.
@BMoney8600
@BMoney8600 3 жыл бұрын
The song “Bloody Sunday” by U2 is about that event.
@GaryOzbourne-mp7yv
@GaryOzbourne-mp7yv Жыл бұрын
I will never forget the 2 little boys who were blown up in WARRINGTON a family member who was walking down was nearly Killed.
@GM-vr2yh
@GM-vr2yh 3 жыл бұрын
As with most events in history, there was bad on both sides. But basically it's all Oliver Cromwell's fault
@Geordie_mess
@Geordie_mess 3 жыл бұрын
Debatable.
@PhilHoy97
@PhilHoy97 3 жыл бұрын
Not really, there was three or four hundred years of colonialism and war before Cromwell was even born. It’s all Strongbow, Pope Adrian and the dispossessed king of Leinster’s (whose name I can’t remember) fault.
@jasonmcgough1218
@jasonmcgough1218 3 жыл бұрын
@@PhilHoy97 Diarmuid MacMurrogh was deposed by the king of Connacht Ruadhrí Ua Conchobair, MacMurrogh asked for help off Henry II of England, who sent strongbow
@PhilHoy97
@PhilHoy97 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonmcgough1218 that’s the fella, couldn’t for the life of me remember his name
@henrihenry4149
@henrihenry4149 3 жыл бұрын
It's not that simple..
@timlinator
@timlinator 3 жыл бұрын
The civil rights movement was around the same time as the one in the states and greatly inspired by Dr. King including songs like "we shall overcome". Yes the black panthers visited Ireland to stand in solidarity with us and many here are quite fond of the black panthers.
@garyb5998
@garyb5998 3 жыл бұрын
Respect from béal Feirste ( Belfast ) for watching the video 💪🇮🇪.
@shooterfulable
@shooterfulable 3 жыл бұрын
Bloody sunday was a massacre that happened during the troubles.
@gavinwilson4500
@gavinwilson4500 3 жыл бұрын
Think you need to remember the IRA had their bunch of terrorist scum starting that riot. The Army did what they had too. To protect themselves
@joerev380
@joerev380 3 жыл бұрын
Gavin, i don’t even think the British government agree with that.
@gavinwilson4500
@gavinwilson4500 3 жыл бұрын
@@joerev380 I think you will find that depends what government you are talking too. The weak government we have these days orva government or a government from the time who actually told people what actually happened. Rather than blame the army for everything the IRA started plenty evidence to prove that. Are you from NI
@lee_Meehan
@lee_Meehan 3 жыл бұрын
@@gavinwilson4500 You even look into the inquest at all, say what you will about everything that happened in NI but blame has to be taken when the evidence is clear.
@gavinwilson4500
@gavinwilson4500 3 жыл бұрын
@@lee_Meehan again are you from NI plus it has also been stated by several judges plus MP and a ex PM that it was a white wash to try and ease tensions in NI.
@vladdythebear5872
@vladdythebear5872 3 жыл бұрын
Its pretty weird how loads of massacres around the world are called "Bloody Sunday", theres been them in Northern Ireland, Russia, South Africa, America and so on. Sunday just isn't a very good day
@adammacdomhnail2014
@adammacdomhnail2014 3 жыл бұрын
9:23 "The north of Ireland" *I like this guy* 😂😂😂
@irishrepublican3739
@irishrepublican3739 3 жыл бұрын
Wixterdude2297 Free Derry🇮🇪
@irishrepublican3739
@irishrepublican3739 3 жыл бұрын
Wixterdude2297 aye pal. It can be Londonderry if London is called Dublinlondon😉
@irishrepublican3739
@irishrepublican3739 3 жыл бұрын
Wixterdude2297 not for long
@irishrepublican3739
@irishrepublican3739 3 жыл бұрын
Wixterdude2297 💀🇮🇪
@kevinomalley1090
@kevinomalley1090 3 жыл бұрын
@Wixterdude2297 yeah, but y'all just commited economic suicide, so, you know, welcome to the breadline.
@michael_177
@michael_177 3 жыл бұрын
Normans were technically the french invading and overtaking England at the battle of Hastings in 1066, if i remember correctly
@paulpowell7424
@paulpowell7424 3 жыл бұрын
Correct . Normans come from Normandy(France).
@aequoanimo7150
@aequoanimo7150 3 жыл бұрын
I say my self French vikings because it sounds better...
@thedarquibus
@thedarquibus 3 жыл бұрын
The Norman's were invited to, but later Norman desendants help fight English, I.e. the Sinnotts held Wexford Castle against English until O'Neill arrived.
@mcfcfan1870
@mcfcfan1870 3 жыл бұрын
This was 1169. It was the Anglo-normans so the English
@timlinator
@timlinator 3 жыл бұрын
The "protestants" in Ulster were settlers from southern Scotland and northern England put there by Britain to outnumber the Irish natives which is why those six counties stayed with UK.
@olivierdk2
@olivierdk2 3 жыл бұрын
Oh the plantation settlers, right ? www.colaisteeanna.ie/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/History-Revision-The-Plantations.pdf
@RobertK1993
@RobertK1993 2 жыл бұрын
Actually 2 of 6 counties have Irish Roman Catholic natives majorities Fermanagh and Tyrone.
@timlinator
@timlinator 2 жыл бұрын
@@RobertK1993 Now but did they 100 years ago?
@BMoney8600
@BMoney8600 3 жыл бұрын
My mom’s family immigrated to America in the early 1900s from County Cork and County Kerry. They were Catholic and they had to drop the O from the last name to get employment opportunities and avoid prejudice. The last name went from O’Barry to Barry.
@Just-Tony
@Just-Tony 3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was mad interesting the way as a black dude you keyed in to the sense of injustice that was fueling the Troubles. That whole thing is exactly how Irish people feel historically in relation to Britain (not exactly though, it's complicated... LOL).
@TheGlassman14
@TheGlassman14 3 жыл бұрын
We call the Revolutionary War "Tuesday"
@cmcculloch1
@cmcculloch1 3 жыл бұрын
check out M Bison here - we'd prob call it the american war of independence cause I genuinely dont remember been taught it at school, seems to shock most americans considering how heavily it is taught but it honestly isnt a 'thing' to us in the uk. The napoleonic wars were much greater consequence to britain and the world at large at the time (bout 30 yrs later). Its honestly a bit of a footnote for us
@Guess_The_Number
@Guess_The_Number 3 жыл бұрын
We never learned about the revolutionary war in school. It was basically just another civil war to us.
@MichaelLeightonsKarlyPilkboys
@MichaelLeightonsKarlyPilkboys 3 жыл бұрын
Hapax Legomenon
@tedthecommenter5364
@tedthecommenter5364 3 жыл бұрын
never forget that Bernadette Devlin, and irish civil rights was given the key to new york city for her work in Ireland and 2 days later gave the key to the black panthers as a symbol of solidarity
@lylaclark3977
@lylaclark3977 3 жыл бұрын
'The Troubles' was the phycological language the British Govt and British Army used, as they didn't want to use the word 'War', or language of War, that was being fought by the British and the IRA (and the Protestant/Loyalist paramilitaries_ to Britian) during this time..... It was a Dirty War on all sides, but given it was been fought in the cities and towns of a Civilian Irish/British Population in Northern Ireland the British Politicians did not want to use the word War for obvious reasons ,nationally and Internationally, and so it was disallowed onto the TV networks or newspapers etc etc etc, and so out of habit, the Irish dry humour, as well as forced phycology, the War became known as 'The Troubles', but all those involved, and those caught up in it, in Ireland , Britain and Northern Ireland, were fully aware it was in fact a War. But as I explain a dirty one, with no clear lines , except to say the Irish/ Catholics in Northern Ireland, at that time, had no Protection, or Rights, Limbs or life, housing or work by the Authority that occupied the Land , and so the IRA did protect the community from threat and violence initially and took the fight to the British to free Ireland and protect the Irish/Catholic People ....and yes over time, 40 years, the violence became too much for all sides....hence the Good Friday Agreement/Peace Process, 1990s , which both the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland voted for, Peace enmasse. Given your conversation and some of what you imply in your video, think you might like to watch 'Harry's Game' BBC (I think) a particular TV drama from the 80s , that might help you understand how dirty a War it was, with the British Shot To Kill Policy etc, if you are to really grasp the state of play of Northern Ireland at this time by all involved. Also I would say: Ireland having been colonized and occupied for the most of 800 years in whole or partition by the British Authorities, Ireland has never given up its right to be United in all that time, and achieved 26 Counties in 1922 onwards. And Yes we voted for Peace, as the Violence got too much 1990s, as we, the majority wanted it on all sides of the Island of Ireland and this is ' a Good' . But a Border Poll (a vote to see, test the water for a United Ireland) is to be done 20 years into the Good Friday Agreement which we all agreed too, it is now nearly 22 years into the agreement and the Irish People who have waited so long a history, medieval or current, are discussing the Border Poll now in open conversation in and of the rules of the Good Friday Agreement which we are free to do on both sides of the Border. Yes the British Authorities are lagging on this.... But in light of Brexit , where the British had the right to vote to 'Leave Europe' , and Scotland has also had a Referendum /Vote to leave Britian, with a Second Vote for Scotland being spoken of in light of the Brexit result, as the Scots don't want to be forced out of Europe by England, nor does Northern Ireland want to be forced out of Europe by England as a result of the Brexit Vote also. So as you can imagine from a very patient Irish historic perspective, there are those north and south of Ireland for all kind of reasons, one obviously a United Ireland, this, a passion of the Irish People , and the raison d'etre (reason) of all our historic suffering as a People and loss, with such lives lost in the history struggle to Unite, it is a bit rich historically and currently politically... in light of the Majority of Britian voting whenever they want currently to leave our stay in Europe.... to expect the Irish to wait indifinitely historically or currently, for much longer with the must implement Border Poll to uphold the Good Friday Agreement for a United Ireland Vote. The Irish have waited , and can no longer be held hostage to British history, and esp past and current British politics (as Ireland is a Sovereign Nation hard fought and won for its People), or current British politics any longer.... when it , Britian, votes to leave Europe in five minutes compared to the time the Irish have waited to be United as a People, in genuine inclusivity and prosperity in our current times, as an Island people for all our Island People North and South. This is not a feeling or mood swings etc as you may not have realized you implied in your video which struck me , the Good Friday Agreement is a serious document that achieved a vital Peace for our Island People , and encourages a United Ireland given the Majority wants it , through a Border Poll. At this stage of the Good Friday Agreement we have a Right to finally, in generosity to all the People of Ireland (not withstanding the obvious sensitivities). We, the Irish have been a particular and historically patient People, but it is Time for the Irish People to have this Vote on Unification of this Fracture/Partition imposed on our Island People by Another's Country's Politics a time ago. A Border Poll , Vote , with preparation and in consultation with all the People of the Island of Ireland🌷...History is arriving at this point for Ireland. Which is more than can be said for Britian... with England, Scotland, and Northern Ireland wanting different outcomes with their permitted Brexit Vote as explained above. Please understand the gravity, longevity and, a suffering, yet joyful and a hopeful Irish People , which in all the eras you have covered in your videos here, what a United Ireland with a Border Poll would mean to the Irish, peacefully done after so much difficult history. Now that would be some Party worth having🥃🥳, that the whole world would be invited to 🥳. Hope the above is of help to you understanding our Island People and what Irish Unity means. Take care and stay Safe😷🌻 And wish America the Blue Wave 🌊🌊🌊🇺🇲💙 it wants for itself this Election 💙🇺🇲🌊 The above only being a very rough outline of all that the Irish People have longed for waited for and are patient in it being 22 yes later on the GFA , finally WE THE PEOPLE will have a voice. Just as I am sure you understand from all your own country's politics ,esp on the Eve of your Presidential Election and all that is involved currently for your Society. The Irish Society is a current one and a historic memory of when we were a United People and Free, and had Brehon Law, that cared for the mentally ill, that had divorce, strong women (just like our Republican Women and Men of 1922, total equality our Irish Free State/and Republic was founded on through James Connolly 1916).
@richlisola1
@richlisola1 3 жыл бұрын
The Normans were the descendants of Vikings dwelling in northern France in the province of Normandy-In 1066 they invaded England, deposing King Alfred, taking over England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 and replacing King Alfred with their own dynasty.
@siogbeagbideach
@siogbeagbideach 3 жыл бұрын
Stiff Little Fingers for the music, just a brilliant band from the north
@georginabarratt3992
@georginabarratt3992 3 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Derry/Londonderry/Stroke City all through the ‘troubles’. To try and explain it in one short or even 2 videos is impossible. I have great trouble trying to explain it to people I meet outside of Ireland. Even if you want to be neutral you were surrounded by the religion and bias of the area you lived in. The whole city seemed to be split down the religious lines. I was very lucky to have parents who wanted nothing to do with the religious bias and would try to teach their children every side of everything possible. The city was a beautiful place and to strangers all the people are friendly. I loved my life there.
@NeroZenith
@NeroZenith 2 жыл бұрын
it still is a beautiful place
@crw45able
@crw45able 3 жыл бұрын
Being from Northern Ireland myself there is a growing number of people who are not one-sided and they've become more moderate. I personally am from the Protestant community but am really quite neutral about things. Catholics were discriminated against for a long time by the British and a lot of bad things were done by both sides during the troubles. Many people here are now interested in the integration of the two communities for example in education, which would be great, but currently there is only a small number of integrated schools. I like the way you stay neutral on your videos and don't say one side is wrong and the other is right. Most people worldwide take the Republican side of things, which I understand because many dislike the British because of history, but really nowadays most people in NI are just normal people and neither those from a British heritage or Irish heritage should be hated for the past they had no control over. Protestants shouldn't be told to get out of Ireland. Not that timeframes really matter because you should never tell someone to go home but Protestants have been in Ireland for 400 years. These days I would only divide people into sectarian and non-sectarian. I would identify far more with a moderate non-sectarian Catholic/Republican than a sectarian Protestant/Unionist because the days of being bitter should be over, we should all move past that. By the way, the Revolutionary War here is known as "the Scuffle". Just kidding ;)
@irishrepublican3739
@irishrepublican3739 3 жыл бұрын
I like the level headedness
@GerryBolger
@GerryBolger 3 жыл бұрын
I'm from the Republic and grew up in the 80s and 90s surrounded by people extremely sympathetic to the IRA. Although I lived (relatively) far away from where the fighting took place, I've always somehow felt personally invested in the troubles. Thankfully I've outgrown that mindset and have, like yourself, become much more moderate. I would never dream of telling a Unionist to go home because, in Northern Ireland, they are home. I can acknowledge that great evils were committed by both sides of the divide and I accept the fact that focusing on the past is clearly unhealthy for everyone. That's not to say that everything should be forgiven and forgotten, some thing can't be. But peaceful progress has never looked as possible as it does now. Many of us south of the border are excited about the prospect of a United Ireland. The bitter pill we'll have to swallow is that Unionists can't be made to feel like guests. A United Ireland is, in reality, nothing like people are imagining. Concessions will have to be made by both sides. Enmity and division must be cast aside for a United Ireland to even be feasible. Peace is within this island's grasp, it just won't be easy to get there.
@uncle_thulhu
@uncle_thulhu 3 жыл бұрын
I had no idea there were any Aussies doing this sort of thing! Subbed. (To him, that is. I'm already subbed to you, da Vinci).
@mikki3562
@mikki3562 3 жыл бұрын
The idea that the British army was neutral is ridiculous. They were sent to keep British rule in the that part of Ireland.
@Damo2690
@Damo2690 3 жыл бұрын
It was stop everyone firebombing everyone. For like a week
@hughesjo
@hughesjo 3 жыл бұрын
History is nuanced, we are learning more every day. I have learned more about my people's history thanks to reactions from people who are also learning. thanks
@karltwomey
@karltwomey 3 жыл бұрын
Bernadette Devlin was awarded the key to the city of Newyork for her work in the civil rights movement in the North , she took that key and gave it to the Black panthers cause she saw a similar struggle for the two communities. She was never welsomed back to NYC
@jaythezombieslayer99
@jaythezombieslayer99 3 жыл бұрын
Alot of my close family were affected heavily by the troubles, the brit soldiers would just come busting into your home, destroy the place looking for weapons or anything and then beat the catholic home owners. A solider choked my grandmother and threw her down a set of stairs while she was 7/8 months pregnant with my mum
@jamesmcgowan245
@jamesmcgowan245 3 жыл бұрын
yeah the same thing happened to my grandad but he survived. Given that they were living in the bog at the time it was tough
@jackietreehorn5561
@jackietreehorn5561 2 жыл бұрын
Don't care what your politics are if you seen that you would wanna stiff the cunts...I know I would
@classicmedia8521
@classicmedia8521 3 жыл бұрын
Your an intellectual person with a logical mind I love these reactions :)
@eugeneodonnell4680
@eugeneodonnell4680 3 жыл бұрын
After Bloody Sunday both John Lennon (Sunday Bloody Sunday) and Paul McCartney (Give Ireland back to the Irish) were outraged enough to write songs inspired by it!
@davidclyde1281
@davidclyde1281 3 жыл бұрын
You picked the right weekend to talk about the troubles it is the first old firm game of the season that’s soccer ⚽️ to you Celtic mainly Catholic support started by Irish ☘️ immigrants and Rangers mainly a Protestant support in west of Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 We have different schools and areas of Glasgow and the bigots on both sides making life unpleasant even in 2020
@nickyjlyons
@nickyjlyons 3 жыл бұрын
Most young Brits don't even know about the Troubles (it certainly wasn't taught in my school in England). I'm embarrassed to say that I didn't even know Ireland was a different country until my late teens!
@MrPlenty1
@MrPlenty1 3 жыл бұрын
That’s crazy 😄
@janijokela
@janijokela 3 жыл бұрын
I like your videos, you always want to learn more, keep doing what you do :)
@peaceloveandunity278
@peaceloveandunity278 3 жыл бұрын
The Normans were from what now Normandy in France. Then it was not France. The word Norman means Men of the North(these were grand children of Viking nobility) who ruled a very small area of Europe(Normandy). They were very powerful and grew very quickly in their power base. They navigated all the major rivers through Europe to Asia. Russia is named after them!!
@lp879
@lp879 3 жыл бұрын
As an Irish Man, we support the struggle for equality of ALL black people.
@emc79
@emc79 3 жыл бұрын
In 1970, Bernadette Devlin, the Irish civil rights leader, was given the keys of New York City. She ignored their wishes and presented the keys to the Black Panthers “as a gesture of solidarity with the black liberation and revolutionary socialist movements in America.”
@michaelireland9953
@michaelireland9953 Жыл бұрын
Appreciate your input here on this subject man. I live in Belfast and it is a divided between catholic & protestant areas. But we have come a long way and made peace. Not your country were everything is about race making you all hate each other via MSM. Things aren't what they seem to be when you go out and speak to people and get an understanding that we all just want to live normal lives. Peace Brother!!!
@grantjohnston7972
@grantjohnston7972 2 жыл бұрын
technically when they say Norman comquest the english weren't involved. it was however the unsettling number of Well armed normans settling in ireland caused england to get involved...but the king was also French so I don't know where this leaves us
@placebo141
@placebo141 3 жыл бұрын
I am from Belfast. You mentioned that you could make nationalist areas Ireland and the other parts northern Ireland. That isn't true because most towns have both Catholic and protestant areas separated by walls
@Maesterful
@Maesterful 3 жыл бұрын
If you're even remotely interested in this period of history you should definitely watch Derry Girls
@garyb5998
@garyb5998 3 жыл бұрын
For 50 years the Loyalists ran the part of Ireland 🇮🇪 that they occupied as a Bigoted region. As for saying that the a opinion of a majority in a certain area should dictate the ownership of that area.. The British Loyalists were injected in to Ireland 🇮🇪 to give a Pro British Majority... But it failed.. In 1918 in a British legal election most people in the island of Ireland 🇮🇪 voted for a local Irish government.
@kilo1981
@kilo1981 3 жыл бұрын
Just trying to fill in some of the gaps....to be honest, Northern Ireland itself is the definition of Gerrymandering. The only reason there's any British people in Northern Ireland to begin with, is that the British Government sent thousands of their settlers there about 400 years ago to take the lands from the native owners and then make them work the land for a pittance. So like a lot of things it's a complicated situation, obviously 400 years is a significant period of time so over generations those British people have made that their home, but at the same time they're used those 400 years to try to hang onto their power and still to this day, although things are trying to become more equal, to still treat the native Irish people like second class citizens. Also, when it comes to a simple vote of whether people want to be Irish or British, it's not that simple. There has actually been an Irish majority (although slight) in Northern Ireland for a number of years, however the way the voting system is cast this doesn't really come through in the elections. Also, while people may identify as Irish, in certain areas a lot of people actually vote for British parties for economic reasons; Northern Ireland gets the most funding of any area in the UK, and rightly so, because to be brutally honest, due to British mismanagement, in lots of ways it's an economic shitshow. A lot of pragmatic people in the Irish Republic actually wouldn't like to take it back (myself included) because we know what a mess it would be (and people in both Northern Ireland and the Irish Republic would both have to choose to make this happen). I'm not sure about Malcolm X meeting anyone from the Republican side, it might have happened, I just never heard of it. I do know, about 100 years before this however that Frederick Douglass definitely visited and toured around Ireland.
@ScuttlersUnited
@ScuttlersUnited 3 жыл бұрын
macolm x visited Ireland, where he said communism, Islam and Irish liberation were the same struggle
@peaceloveandunity278
@peaceloveandunity278 3 жыл бұрын
Read a book called 'White Cargo' about the Irish slave trade. This time in history is virtually erased by Britain. This occurred in the 1600 and 1700's. During this time hundreds of thousands of Irish men,women and children were sent to the Caribbean and America as slaves. This history is NOT taught in British schools. There is so so much to learn about the troubled history of Ireland and the blatant rape and pillaging of a Country rich in history,art,music and much more. You will be surprised by what you read. Just like the sad history of the native Americans. 'Bury my Heart at wounded knee' was a very sad book about native Americans. Read it if you haven't already. Peace,Love and Unity.
@BMoney8600
@BMoney8600 3 жыл бұрын
I just watched a video on it and it sickened me. My mom’s family is from County Cork and County Kerry and I’m proud of my Irish heritage.
@arthurgoodness7865
@arthurgoodness7865 3 жыл бұрын
Northern Ireland is said to have two communities - Unionists and Nationalists. Unionists are pro-UK and Nationalists are pro-unification - a bit simplistic but what the hell. After the formation of Northern Ireland following partition, the Unionists gained control in many key areas. The Nationalist communities claimed persecution and argued that they did not have equal opportunities for housing, employment, etc. In 1966 the loyalist group the UVF declared war on republicans. They bombed utility facilities in Northern Ireland and tried to blame the IRA. They also planted bombs in the RoI. As the 60's drew to a close, tensions were high and nationalist communities were regularly attacked by the RUC (Police) and loyalist gangs. During an Apprentice Boys March in Derry, stone throwing kicked off 3 days of riots. Many believe that this was the starting point for the troubles. After the Battle of the Bogside, the UK Government deployed British troops on the streets of Northern Ireland. There role was to assist the RUC with maintaining law & order, a role that they were ill-equipped to execute. The next 25+years brought mistrust, destruction and the loss of far too many lives. All sides involved were guilty of heinous crimes against innocent men, women and children. Nobody came out of the conflict in a good light and that includes the UK Government. Today families are still looking for answers as to why their loved ones fell victim to republican, loyalist and british security personnel murderers. Many will never know the truth. In other cases the guilty parties are widely known but their is a lack of desire to proceed with prosecutions. Many people blame the IRA/PIRA for the conflict - mainly British people who haven't a clue of the causes that led to the conflict. Others blame Americans for financing the PIRA. In the North itself, each community blames the other. Unfortunately no one ever seems to blame the Government, the UK Government that is. Northern Ireland was then and still is now under the control of Westminster. They were responsible for the safety of all of the people living their and not just a portion of them. They have argued that they were not aware of the extent of the issues that the nationalist communities were facing, but that was no excuse. British politicians sat back and said nothing when British Security personnel were involved in atrocities against innocent civilians - Ballymurphy, Derry, Aughnacloy, Springhill, etc.. Instead, they labelled innocent men, women and children as terrorists who were killed by british security personnel.
@eleanorperry7588
@eleanorperry7588 3 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with you but with education there is hope. My partner is British, didn't really understand or know the extent of the troubles due to censorship in the British Media and being barely a adult when he arrived here. I met him many years later and after researching northern irish history for many years (he loves history) he places a lot of blame on the British government. More so than I would (albeit, I place a lot of blame on them and the apathetic response from the south, I know they were in a difficult situation but they did so little). He recognises that the British government were involved and shared blame. So, don't lose faith, as long as we remember that whatever "side we were on" or sympathise with, that side was partially culpable. It was a bad time and it is a lot better now. By the way, I am suggesting that all British people are normally biased or anti-nationalist but often it just feels like they aren't really in the loop.
@arthurgoodness7865
@arthurgoodness7865 3 жыл бұрын
@@eleanorperry7588 I blame the UK Government, the British security personnel and the paramilitary groups involved in the conflict. All of these groups were responsible for heinous murders on innocent people. The UK Government allowed the Conflict to escalate instead of calming the situation and just listening to the grievances on both sides of the divide. I would find it difficult to blame Ireland though for any of the conflict. They did not have any say on the running of Northern Ireland and so there was little that they could do. Have you ever seen the Jack Lynch televised speech from August 13th 1969? At that time the Irish also put in place refugee camps on their side of the border for fleeing nationalists. Throughout the conflict prisons in the RoI were over flowing with republican prisoners. However, just like the British, the Irish had problems with stopping republicans from crossing over and back the border- too many crossings and not enough staff. Ireland also suffered. The Dublin & Monaghan bombings which were left by loyalists. 11 security personnel killed by republican paramilitaries. Whenever the Irish Government spoke about Northern Ireland, Paisley et al were very vocal in telling Ireland to sod off. There was no political dialogue between Ireland and Northern Ireland. The relationship with Westminster was always tense, especially when Thatcher was the PM. No trust whatsoever. Republicans in the north accused Dublin of abandoning them and Unionists were telling Dublin to butt out of Northern Ireland affairs. And today Northern Ireland is again at the brink. Brexit is splitting the communities and loyalists have declared that they are ready to fight to maintain the integrity of the United Kingdom. Moderate Unionists are worried that loyalists will follow through with their threats of violence. The UVF, the UDA and the Red Hand Commando loyalist groups are ready to fight and that is according to David Campbell LCC. The republican paramilitaries are splintered right now but i wonder how long would it take for them to orgsnised if loyalists begin murdering members of their communities? Let's hope that people have learned from their mistakes and that we do not see any more bloodshed.
@eleanorperry7588
@eleanorperry7588 3 жыл бұрын
@@arthurgoodness7865 A lot to think about, thank you for being so informative. I do not mean to trivialise or negate the British government's role but only make aware that censorship in their media has caused significant bias and ignorance for many people. Bad times are certainly ahead of us, I just hope that education and awareness prevents further atrocities. Like I said, my partner literally agreed with everything you just said, I am the one that has a bit of an issue with how down south handled things, again, that could be as result of ignorance on my part. Will certainly look into it further.
@arthurgoodness7865
@arthurgoodness7865 3 жыл бұрын
@@eleanorperry7588I hope that your boyfriend continues to look at the history of Northern Ireland and Ireland as a whole. It is complex and bloody and much of it is still based on hearsay and innuendo. There definitely were no winners no matter what the group's involved might proclaim. There are also some good documentaries on the conflict - anything that involved the reporter Peter Taylor was usually balanced and looked at things from both sides. On the BBC iPlayer you still might be able to view "Spotlight on the Troubles: A Secret History" - I think this had 6 or 7 episodes and it was pretty good. The conflict also had many injustices, people sent to prison for crimes that they did not commit. For the Guildford bombing the authorities convicted 11 people in 1975 (Guildford 4) and in March 1976 (Maguire 7). On the 12th of December 1975, the Police arrested 4 PIRA in London. During their interrogations, 3 of these men confessed to the Woolwich and Guildford bombings. During their trial in 1977 they again put it on record that it was them who carried out the Woolwich and Guildford bombings. These confessions were ignored and the Guildford 4 remained in prison until 19th October 1989.
@mawhinney2.196
@mawhinney2.196 2 жыл бұрын
Bernadette Devlin the civil rights leader went to America and was given the key to New York by Mayor Lindsay. She gave it to the black panthers.
@biulaimh3097
@biulaimh3097 Жыл бұрын
In Ireland, WW2 was called The Emergency.
@Vollification
@Vollification 6 ай бұрын
WW3 being called "The Kerfuffle"
@domestosbleach7557
@domestosbleach7557 3 жыл бұрын
Now this does put a smile on my face been waiting for this one
@carolineainenibhreithimh7652
@carolineainenibhreithimh7652 2 жыл бұрын
Love to you for learning xoxox 💚🤍🧡
@philiptaylor734
@philiptaylor734 3 жыл бұрын
Although things are always more complex, this is a pretty good overview. The lesson should be that all people deserve respect, dignity and equality of treatment. I grew up in Belfast and thought nothing of walking through armed checkpoints just to go shopping or getting stopped and searched at various points.
@korl8524
@korl8524 3 жыл бұрын
Ive found this idea of "if they want to leave then let them leave" interesting given that the South wasnt allowed to leave the US. (Just let the South leave problem solved right?)
@C17NRYL3D
@C17NRYL3D 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video I enjoyed it and I come from that area that it talks about! The graphic that the man in the video showed splitting the north into a green white and orange and a loyalist northern Ireland I think was just meant as an illustration. The demographics aren't actually in those geographical locations; it's all very mixed Catholics and Protestants are everywhere in the North and if we held a vote in every single town to remain or leave then the borders would be crazy, you would pass from the UK to the republic of Ireland and back 10 times in a 1 hour trip!
@EMPERORSPROTECTION-TERRA4LIFE
@EMPERORSPROTECTION-TERRA4LIFE 2 жыл бұрын
You should check out all the atrocities in UK there's hundreds. Here in Manchester we had "the massacre of peterloo". Around the napoleon's war times so named after the battle of Waterloo. St Peters Square is where it happened.
@Enemyofthestate.
@Enemyofthestate. 3 жыл бұрын
The Irish civil rights movement was inspired by and therefore connected to the American civil rights movement.
@Aithis.
@Aithis. 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of the Irish independence part of Irish history flew over my head too when I was in school compared to the troubles. Also there were a lot of parallels and connections with the black community in America with Republican communities during the troubles and “leaders” or “followers” would have met here, along with other groups such as Palestinian groups and such
@shanemolloy4731
@shanemolloy4731 Жыл бұрын
Our civil rights protest were liked. We even sang we shall overcome until the ones who crossed the sea shot civilans .
@poggies7639
@poggies7639 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t be surprised if Malcolm X met with Irish Republicans tbh. Stuff like that goes way back, for example, Fredrick Douglas was inspired by Daniel O’Connell and met with him on multiple occasions. Irish political movements and revolutionaries have been meeting and talking with other groups of oppressed people for a long time
@danielgilson535
@danielgilson535 3 жыл бұрын
Part 2! Part 2!
@dukerrr
@dukerrr 3 жыл бұрын
I think the cranberries song “zombie” is about this
@norfolkenchants1238
@norfolkenchants1238 3 жыл бұрын
You should read up on Frederick Douglass's travels to Ireland, he was held in high regard for his speeches here and in England on his experiences as a slave and his aims to gain rights for African Americans before the emancipation, he also befriended an Irish republican called Daniel O'Connell, who Douglass credits as an inspiration. We have plaques in the city's of Cork and Waterford and I think one in London England to celebrate his visits
@soundwave1021
@soundwave1021 3 жыл бұрын
Then Irish Catholic s and protestants moved to Liverpool in the UK, and kind of came to the conclusion that everybody has to go to work together on Monday morning and shelved the sectarian crap. We mostly argue over football here 😀
@lukecurran3887
@lukecurran3887 3 жыл бұрын
As an Irish person i really enjoyed this
@connienail4013
@connienail4013 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, check out bloody sunday
@xoxyootubexox
@xoxyootubexox 3 жыл бұрын
My grandparents were both northern irish, however my grandad was protestant and my nana catholic. It didn't matter to them so they decided to move to england to marry (theyd have never been able to stay in ireland) the night before they left, my grandads friends met with him to ask if he was really going to marry a catholic. When he answered yes, they beat him to a bloody pulp...his own friends...
@Dan-B
@Dan-B 3 жыл бұрын
The Normans were French, from Normandy.
@shanemolloy4731
@shanemolloy4731 Жыл бұрын
They gerrymandered the boundrys . Derry had 2/3 nationalist but got 1/3 of seats. Literally some had no vote some protistants got 2 or 3
@willkp50
@willkp50 3 жыл бұрын
An important thing to remember is that the reason for a lot of the mistakes made by the British Army was because they were not trained to act as a police force and so didn’t know what to do. Furthermore, off-duty soldiers were often targeted so there was widespread paranoia amongst the soldiers. Feel free to call me biased (I’m English)
@HigginsBiggins
@HigginsBiggins 2 жыл бұрын
The Normans were from Normandy france and originally I guess Vikings
@connienail4013
@connienail4013 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, Devon, Bernadette Devlin met the Black Panthers. Google it and check her out!
@agathacathartese7041
@agathacathartese7041 3 жыл бұрын
Check out Bernadette Mcalisky, irish civil rights leader was given the keys to New York and went and gave them to the black Panthers
@peterkelly1515
@peterkelly1515 3 жыл бұрын
His soloution about the protestant areas be part of the uk and the catholic areas be part of ireland is so wholesome. But he probably doesnt realise northern ireland and the republic of ireland have different currencies so it couldnt work
@sarahhennessy2945
@sarahhennessy2945 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah exactly, not to mention it's too late now considering the Irish government can't actually afford to pay for the upkeep of northern Irish infrastructure and free welfare
@AM-xh9iq
@AM-xh9iq 3 жыл бұрын
It feels like so long waiting for Part 2.
@Craigbrown1999
@Craigbrown1999 3 жыл бұрын
I'm from the North of Ireland. I'm looking forward to your reaction to this video lol
@craig5169
@craig5169 3 жыл бұрын
You can be North Craig and I'll be South Craig lol
@robertglenn8095
@robertglenn8095 3 жыл бұрын
You from Donegal?
@irishrepublican3739
@irishrepublican3739 3 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Floyd Ulster includes Donegal, Monaghan, Cavan, Derry, Tyrone, Down, Fermanagh, Armagh and Antrim, so maybe he is from donegal, north of Ireland🇮🇪
@robertglenn8095
@robertglenn8095 3 жыл бұрын
@@irishrepublican3739 triggereddddddd
@irishrepublican3739
@irishrepublican3739 3 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Floyd how am I triggered mate?
@alzer6467
@alzer6467 3 жыл бұрын
You could be right about leaders of the civil rights movements in Northern Ireland and America meeting...the Catholics in Northern Ireland were heavily influenced by the the movement in the US and modelled some of the marches on the Selma Montgomery march.
@kylewilliamholdsworth3737
@kylewilliamholdsworth3737 3 жыл бұрын
Fredrick Douglass loved Ireland, and Ireland loved Fredrick Douglas
@michaelhagan9177
@michaelhagan9177 3 жыл бұрын
Best way to teach yourself is to come to Belfast and do the political tours of both communities, run by ex IRA volunteers and loyalist paramilitaries. Very insightful and very popular
@liamdancer8531
@liamdancer8531 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching this series on this, probably the most balanced video on it. (this is coming from a Brit though)
@Aithis.
@Aithis. 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t worry, most of us Irish/Northern Irish or whatever don’t mind English people at all. Infact being in England people have always been aw “you’re Irish I love irish people” lol. Very balanced vid though, basically the way it was taught in my school which was an integrated school
@liamdancer8531
@liamdancer8531 3 жыл бұрын
@@Aithis. the only interaction i've had with the Irish (outside of one person who gave me a tenner for having an Irish name), was online, which is often very toxic XD so hearing this is quite reaffirming
@AM-xh9iq
@AM-xh9iq 3 жыл бұрын
Irish people don't mind English people at all. It's the British government we have an issue with. But they don't represent the average English person. If you come to Ireland whatever part you'll have no problem. Especially Lately though the average Irish person is not pleased with Westminster.
@jmaitland5709
@jmaitland5709 3 жыл бұрын
The Normans were actually an interesting bunch. At first they were Vikings that settled in the north of France and adopted the French language and culture, then after conquering England they adopted a lot of the local Anglo-Saxon customs which eventually led to the English culture and language that still exists today It's why so many English words are similar to French words
@adjjal
@adjjal 3 жыл бұрын
Hm I never knew that thank you for sharing, that was super interesting
@mrmoki9761
@mrmoki9761 3 жыл бұрын
American war for independence "The Scuffles"
@domhnallkelly5084
@domhnallkelly5084 3 жыл бұрын
Im from the north of ireland and was born in a catholic area and honestly the bullshit thats been going on has made me atheist lol. Saying that i welcome the protestant community with open arms BUT i do believe this is irish land and 100% want the north of Ireland unified with the rest of the country
@1969JohnnyM
@1969JohnnyM 3 жыл бұрын
The Northern State was created to have as much land as possible but with a big enough Unionist majority that they would always govern. Right of the bat there's issues, County Donegal is the most Northerly county and is in the Republic, and Ulster is 9 counties so the 6 that make up the North Eastern state are missing Donegal, Monaghan and Cavan which are in the Republic. If each county in the N. Ireland was given a vote Unionists are only in the majority in 2 counties Antrim and Down whilst Fermanagh, Derry, Tyrone and Armagh are either overwhelmingly Nationalist or a slight majority. There has also been demographic changes with the Nationalist population growing and expected to become a majority this year or in the next 2.
@timlinator
@timlinator 3 жыл бұрын
That's right brother in northern Ireland the Irish are the blacks and treated that way. At one time all of Ireland was under British occupation and we were the "blacks of Britain"
@jokeeffe2006
@jokeeffe2006 3 жыл бұрын
you cant sum up 800 year in 20mins, thanks for the video
@user-cs6pd4ot2e
@user-cs6pd4ot2e 3 жыл бұрын
Oh cool! Just started the video. I live in the Bogside in Derry.
@shanemolloy4731
@shanemolloy4731 Жыл бұрын
Normans were french. Normandy where you stormed the beached in 44
@johncahill4259
@johncahill4259 3 жыл бұрын
Pt.2 please
@1969JohnnyM
@1969JohnnyM 3 жыл бұрын
Irish Catholics looked to the American Civil Rights Movement for inspiration and if you look you can find the Reverend Jesse Jackson talking about the sectarian Northern Ireland State and its 2 tier system. Catholics marching for civil rights had 5 aims, (1) An end to job discrimination, (2) An end to housing discrimination (3) For equal voting rights so one man, one vote (4) the end of gerrymandering so the voting power of everyone was fair and equal. (5) Reform of the heavily armed state Police and its even more sectarian quasi paramilitary 'B' Specials. (6) Repeal of the Special Powers Act which was used exclusively on Irish Catholics and which allowed searches without any warrant, it allowed arrests and imprisonments without any charges or even a trial. It allowed bans on any gathering, parade or protest and banned any publication they disliked and the act was exclusively used on Catholics for instance when the State began mass arrests and imprisonments without charge or trial, those imprisoned were 100% Catholic.
@keith6400
@keith6400 3 жыл бұрын
United States involvement in The Troubles would be the alleged financing of weapons acquisitiion via Noraid and Libya allegedly being a supplier of weapons.
@adjjal
@adjjal 3 жыл бұрын
8 mins in and I just paused it to comment, there was a huge gerrymandering problem in Northern Ireland, resulting in a protestant majority government. Honestly I'm not sure how it is today, but I know that historically, Catholics were hugely underrepresented in the NI government. If you take a look at Cogito's video on the Irish border he explains much better than I could.
@TheEhreilly
@TheEhreilly 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus. If you want to learn about Irish history, don't ask a brit.
@thedarquibus
@thedarquibus 3 жыл бұрын
Only thing you need to know about this video is British waffle. I.e. Ulster is not Northern Ireland, Northern Ireland is part of Ulster. That's just a tiny detail I could go on.
@Krust_Acean
@Krust_Acean 3 жыл бұрын
Easter Rising sounds pretty cool.
@katec8796
@katec8796 3 жыл бұрын
The similarities are striking aren't they? The long term effects of colonialism, oppression, theft and cruelty leads to generational trauma. And once that side begins to retaliate and answer back with much of the same treatment they have been dealt they are then labeled as brutes. You really see it all over the world but there has always been a strange connection that ties the Catholic Irish with African and Native Americans over the last few centuries. Irish Americans who ignore police brutality or cruel anti-immigration laws are stunningly ignorant of their own history. Hopefully you react to more about the Easter Rising - there are a few documentaries on KZfaq about it that's worth reacting to :) Also the relationship between Frederick Douglass and Daniel O'Connell is great to delve into as well.
@shanemolloy4731
@shanemolloy4731 Жыл бұрын
Its a tiny island partition is partition . The beach is the border. Majority voted for total seperation 72% and they declaired our government leaders and army illegal
@davidwatkins8395
@davidwatkins8395 2 жыл бұрын
There's a lot of comparative history ,the history Irish people, is very much like the evolution of what was happening with minorities in the US the same times, sometimes it manifested differently from country to country but predjudice is prejudice ain't it, u know and it happens all over the world. Thats why you had people I the 70's like a woman called Bernadette Devlin, who got given the freedom of New York and they give people a golden ceremonial key , for being an activist and standing up to the UK government in Ireland, but the US government didn't realise that she wasn't the biggest fan of thiers either ,and she especially didn't like the way that they treated minorities, so as soon as they gave her this nice big trophy key to her , the next day she is on TV giving it, as a show of solidarity to the New York Black Panther party, In her own words "as a gesture of solidarity and for revolutionary movement in America". And she also said that the oppressed people over in the US who were the people that acted the mostlike the real revolutionaries that she recognised from home, were the Black people ,the Puerto Ricans and the Chicanos, because they were actually the most downtrodden of America at the time . She met the mayor Of New York, he presented her this trophy giant key to the city , she was given the key and freedom of the city, she said it was "an honour not to be sneezed at"😏😒😂 "So I took it, but I gave it to someone who deserved it,from New York "The leaders of The Black Panther Part New York chapter" So yeah it's true that the civil rights movements in the UK, Ireland and the US were around the same times or lot of events happened at once especially in the 60's and 70's Cool reaction bro keep it up 💯👊🙏✌😎
@rose080891
@rose080891 3 жыл бұрын
Northern Ireland cannot be split anymore, aside from the fact there are bilateral national and international treaties governing its borders, it already cannot sustain itself and costs the UK government money to fund it. if it split any more it would be completely unsustainable.
@scottcharney1091
@scottcharney1091 Жыл бұрын
The demographics in Belfast and elsewhere in Northern Ireland change street-to-street, neighborhood to neighborhood, so a simple partition is impossible. It wouldn't be as drastic as, say, the ghastly partition of India, but even so, nobody is going to get displaced, leaving their homes, in order to keep the sides separated. Also, as others have noted, it wasn't a religious war per se.
@niallrussell7184
@niallrussell7184 3 жыл бұрын
seriously.. don't think you can just say "problem solved" dividing Northern Ireland up. How do you think it was done originally to form NI, and wtf do you do with a city like Belfast where areas are Catholic or Protestant?? Religion has to be taken out of the equation for there ever to be a United Ireland.
@PhilHoy97
@PhilHoy97 3 жыл бұрын
Religion isn’t really in the equation anyway. It’s politics/culture that is the main divide. The majority of people fighting and killing weren’t particularly religious. Many stopped and worked for peace when they became religious.
@hannahthompson3082
@hannahthompson3082 3 жыл бұрын
Alright lad calm down, he’s American he doesn’t understand the whole background of the country. Half the people in Northern Ireland don’t either. He’s trying to learn so let’s just be helpful in that process instead of ripping into him.
@alzer6467
@alzer6467 3 жыл бұрын
He was joking for fuck sake
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