Thanks for the wonderful comment and great idea for a video!

Thanks man! I agree, I think for the money this combo is untouchable for now!

Thank you Nick!!!

Any promo? Looking to pick up

Thanks for watching!

We’ll thank you very much! I appreciate the comment and support ❤😊☕️🤘

I agree, however my goal was to compare if someone was upgrading to these and following Fellows recommendations for grind size. I wanted it to be more realistic for someone who may not be quite as nerdy!

Thanks for watching!

I feel you on the FOMO!!! In this video I was brewing a coffee called Bacchus from my friends Mythical Coffee here in Arizona. It’s a 72 hour fermentation Colombia Caldas from Juan Felipe Aristizábal, flavor notes are chocolate mousse, mango, and strawberry. I don’t get much of the mango from it but definitely the chocolate mousse and strawberry! It’s a really good coffee, most of their coffees are. If you eve have a chance to check them out I recommend them. Also another great Arizona shop is Pair Cupworks. I brew a lot of their coffees and the owner/roaster is a good friend of mine. He actually lets me borrow tons of coffee gear all the time to check out and play with for videos! Thanks for watching and I really appreciate the kind words and support!!! 😊☕️🤘

@@coffeenerdaaron I def am going to give both roasters a try. I love the Pear Cupworks packaging. I'm such a sucker for great packaging. Thanks for the recommendations. I' can't wait to try both.

I also have some SSP Cast right now I could throw in the mix!

@@coffeenerdaaron Excited to see this! Doubt I'll purchase any of the more expensive ones but interested to see how Gen2 stacks up against them :)

@@coffeenerdaaron Hey man, new subscriber here. Definitely loving your content! Keep up the good work. Just a quick request with the Cast. Let us know if it's the lab sweets or not? Also how much and where you got them in the video? I've been snooping online for them and I've found different prices and different kinds. From the research I've done the Sweets version is amazing and the best ones to get. I'm still undecided though. It's between the Sweets Cast, GG or the SSP HU. It's hard to find comparisons on all of them together. Maybe between you and your cohort you have on sometimes, you can get it done! Either way, looking forward to your videos and content! Have a good one!

Thanks for watching! Good to know your take on these for espresso, I haven’t tried that yet 😊

I didn’t go finer for this test cause I was comparing them based on fellows recommended grind settings. Before I upgraded my burrs I had my Ode with the original burrs set at chirp at setting 1 and that’s where I had it set for over a year! So yes I probably could’ve got the grind sizes a little closer, however I would have gone finer with the Gen 2 burrs as well.

I do plan on doing that, hopefully I’ll have time soon! ☕️🤘

I put a set of mazzer super jolly in my ode for £30 and it’s amazing. Espresso to pour over

That’s just it! You can’t quite go fine enough with the original or Gen 1 burrs to get a good enough extraction when single cup brewing, unless maybe you’re immersion brewing, but even then a little finer would be better. Burrs that grind finer and offer a more consistent grind particle size expose more of the beans surface area to water for better extraction, so it’s hard to go wrong with any burr set that offers those benefits… but for the money the Gen 2 are a strong contender against other more expensive burrs. When you get into higher performance burrs that have different burr geometry and change certain aspects of the coffee flavor profile then it all becomes subjective to your taste. If you like more clarity and a thinner more tea like body then the SSP MP might be better, if you like better body and don’t mind a little less clarity then these or the Gorilla Gear burrs are really nice. The Gorilla Gears are a bit pricey but with the black diamond coating and pre seasoning they’re a really, really nice burr, I love mine. I’m glad you’re enjoying the G2’s and getting better coffee, that’s what it’s all about! Thanks for commenting and checking out my videos! 😊

It's simply not true that you can't go fine enough for single cups. I brew single cups every day. 12 to 200 usually. You just have to pulse pour or use higher agitation. This is something that people constantly repeat but it's really overblown unless you insist on doing a Hoffman style brew in a cone shaped brewer

@@dylanbeschoner I don't disagree with you, I've brewed some pretty good cups with the Gen 1's. I guess my goal with this video was to help people understand the differences between these two burr sets and what they can expect when doing a standard pour over and dose. A lot of people don't understand or know the pulse pour techniques and are just casual coffee drinkers looking for something that will increase the flavor of their cup without drastically changing their brewing methods or recipes. You can't deny that a better burr that can grinder finer and more uniformly is better 😉

@@coffeenerdaaron I mean the fact that they can go finer is helpful in some ways but I don't know if they're better. They provide more body but less clarity so it really depends

I would say yes, these burrs still get pretty course so I imagine they would work fine for you. And the quality/taste of your cup with these burrs is going to go up!

Yes that would have been a better apples to apples brewed taste comparison; matching the grind size micron level.

I agree but I was trying to use their chart as an easy reference point for people and just compare based on the manufacturers recommendations. Maybe I should have added a second part where I did that in the video… hind sight! Thanks for watching anyway 😊

With the gen 1 burrs I never moved the dial passed 2. 95% of the time I was at the finest setting and it worked most of the time.

Not yet but that’s coming soon!!!

With the original (gen 1) burrs I was always on setting 1, as far as the gen 2 I’m actually finding now I’m between 4-5 for faster flowing brewers like the Orea, and 5-7 for more normal flowing brewers like the Stagg, Kalita, V60 etc. But it also depend on the coffee. It’s all trial, error, and experiment!

@@coffeenerdaaron cool, thanks for the feedback! Definitely depends on the coffee and my brewer and preferences, but nice to generally know what to expect at least initially! Cheers!

@@spencer-mav thanks for watching and happy brewing!!!

There’s a link in the description for a 3D print file, if you have or know someone with a 3D printer you can make it! Thanks for watching 😊

The Gen 1 burrs are not know for having great particle distribution, that’s why the Gen 2 burrs were such a welcome and anticipated update. The Gen 2 will give you much better results and performance! They are way more consistent and can grind finer than the Gen 1. I think you would be very happy with them.

Nice! I have a DF64 as well and I find that I use the Ode more, but I don’t do as much home espresso as I used to.

@@coffeenerdaaron well the tides have turned, bought a used ode and grabbed the gen 2 burrs on discount 😅

@@Sinisterg60 awesome man!!!

@@coffeenerdaaron is it possible to use the gen 2 ode burrs for espresso in the DF64? Have you tried that at all? Thanks for the great video

I had the thought but it’s not just the power of the motor that matter for espresso, it’s also how fine the burr can grind. In the case of the Gen 2 burrs since they’re designed for filter they don’t go fine enough regardless of the grinder you put them in!

Sounds like you there might be some coffee particles getting stuck between the burrs. Make sure all the coffee is ground and you’ve used the knocker to get everything out. I know the Ode will shut off when it doesn’t sense anymore resistance and it thinks there are no beans left, but if there are small particles present that stay in between the burrs that can happen. I recommend turning the grinder back on again for a few seconds and using the knocker again after it stops grinding the first time. This will help get out anything left, this is what I do with mine when I use it. If that doesn’t help there may be something else going on and you may have to take it apart and examine it to see.

@@coffeenerdaaron thanks Aaron. I turn the motor on, rotate the dial (motor resists but clears out where no resistance resides). It never happened with original burrs. I’m just reporting it to you. No regrets installing the burrs. It is amazing how well the size consistency matters. Also, I love the latest brewer video and put it on my Christmas list, but nobody can find it in stock. You do resonate soundly Aaron! Keep the great content coming. Merry Christmas.

They will fit in other 64mm grinders however they still don’t grind for espresso. These burrs are not designed for grinding that fine so it doesn’t matter what grinder they’re in they still can’t do espresso.

@@coffeenerdaaron Good to know. Thanks!

That’s a tough question man! They all perform so well so I guess it depends on what you want from your coffee. In my experience the Gorillas offer great clarity, good sweetness, and good body. The SSP offer really great clarity, great sweetness, but a thinner body. And the Gen 2 offer a good all around experience of clarity, sweetness, and body. One interesting thing about the Gen 2 is that it seems to be pretty consistent that the brightness gets more intense as the cup cools which is a unique characteristic, so if you like good brightness and/or acidity then the Gen 2 may be the way to go. I think the Gen 2 are hard to beat right now when it comes to performance and taste for the money, but the SSP MP are hard to beat in the clarity department! So at the end of the day it really boils down to what you want out of your coffee, what you want to spend, and what your willing to sacrifice to gain in another area. I personally really like the cups I get with the Gorilla burrs because I like a little more body than the SSP MP provide and the overall balance of the flavor notes and sweetness is fantastic, the downside is they’re more expensive. I hope this helps in some way! 😊

I've not tried but they should, they're the standard 64mm size and design.

Thanks for the feedback!

Absolutely agree! Looking back I should have done a better job of matching the sizes.

I prefer a good balance of body and clarity, which is may I really like my Gorilla Gear burrs! The SSP MP are good but a little too tea like for me in the body, but the clarity as amazing 😊

You should try the mazzer super jolly burrs really cheap and are very good. Saves you having to save up for the ssp

For this I used the Orea V3 smile 😊

I honestly don’t know, I don’t brew moka pot so I cont tell you with any confidence, however from what I understand you grind pretty fine for moka pot so it may be an issue for the Gen 1 burrs but the Gen 2 burrs should be fine for that.

@@coffeenerdaaron Are all the v2 burrs sold separately? Will the ode ship by default with them included, or are they always going to be a manual upgrade?

@@cinemapigeon4898 I don’t know since I don’t work for Fellow but my guess is they might offer them installed as well as separately.

They can grind fine enough just off touch to pull a turbo style shot but they don't get fine enough to pull a standard 8-9 bar shot.

Thank you! I appreciate that very much!!!