SmokeRingsPipeDreams the guy who got run through survived that right?

Half blind people with weapons are always dangerous ;)

Did he live tho?

@@creme8338 probably did if the tip didn't hit any vital organs.

i hope when you say 'broadsword' you mean the double edged, basket hilted english style sword, and not the medieval double edged, cross shaped, simple hilted sword called the arming sword. or god forbid, a bastard sword, which is the slightly longer hilted version of an arming sword to allow room for more than one hand. if they really wanted to swing it, why the fuck didnt they just use the anorexic arse sabre? this is the problem with making practice swords this thin, they lose a lot of their properties, and they lose mass so they dont behave at all like what theyre supposed to simulate, and also they become considerably less durable, an actual sharp epee (yes, epee is a real type of sword, not just a steel noodle) would have definitely devoured those strikes, and asked for seconds. (the epee is a triangular cross section thrust only sword that originates from france, its basically a bigger version of the smallsword, which is more commonly known by its training analog, the foil. foils originated as a less lethal version of the smallsword, basically, a real, sharp smallsword thats been intentionally made flimsier so that it would cause wounds but not skewer people, became used when duels to the first blood became significantly more popular than to the death. made safe and turned into the fencing foil when duelling was inevitably banned.) i may seem a bit agressive, and thats probably because of all those sport fencing boys saying they would beat historical fencers in a bout with real swords... come on, thats like a skier telling a snowboarder, that theyre better at snowboarding than they are. anyways, fencing of all kinds, very cool and fun. sport fencing is more athletic and competition based, historical fencing is more like a simulation, but theyre both competitive in nature. its kind of like CS:GO and Insurgency. Insurgency is more immersive, realistic, with non-existing UI, and horrifyng, slow paced combat, CS:GO is all about the e-sports aspect, its fun and it doesnt have to be grounded in reality, its just satisfying, though both have competitive scenes (Insurgency's is kind of dead though, if you add an active competitive scene, that might be a better analogy). its when i think about it too much, i go nuts over sport fencing if youd ever want to take an interest in HEMA (Historical European Martial Arts, basically historical fencing + unarmed combat and things that arent swords such as spears, polearms, daggers, axes, maces, hammers, etc. and also combinations of weapons like sword and buckler, sword and dagger, sword and cape/cloak, sword and shield, spear and shield, etc. as well as medieval armoured combat, which is trying to stab gaps, using blunt trauma, and a lot of grappling. all pulled from historical sources and manuscripts. one key difference you will see is, it doesnt matter if you hit first, its whoever hits, not whoever hits first, so its defence first, and defence after. after blows and doubles are either not rewarded, or punished, you should raise up to guard after you stike. grazes and nicks, as well as cuts with insufficient rotation or strikes that land flat arent counted. stationary weapons can be grabbed, as theyre just simulating sharp pieces of steel and not lightsabres. here is some showcasing: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h9yZZ7mD3LrJco0.html (Joachim Meyer's Longsword plays from his treatise from 1570) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aq2fhM-nyMWsY6c.html (Longsword plays from Fiore de Liberi's treatise) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iZN-pKtikrKZqGg.html (Rapier Sparring Showcase) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oMqadrGKrJvFfWQ.html (British Military Sabre sparring, with commentary) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ra1-g9J609uRdKc.html (Introduction to Joachim Meyer's Halberd) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h7dxndWb0ajFfGw.html (Introduction to I.33 Sword and Buckler) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j6uFid1mvNmcp58.html (Rondel Dagger Sparring) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y9yPhLdplrLNk2Q.html (Messer - or Langes Messer - Sparring) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rLmbeJWHl9jegqc.html (Smallsword Sparring, basically foil but unlimited target area, and they're treated like sharp - pointy - swords, so no over committed lunges, or hopping around, and as said before, the goal is to skewer them without being hurt yourself, the smallsword also has a conventional sword grip, a knucklebow, and a double shell guard) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/isyIg7Orys3LcZs.html (Historical Wrestling, idk, i didnt exactly look this up until now) if you are interested, here you can for check possible clubs in your area: www.hemaalliance.com/club-finders

would looking at smallsword or epee de combat help at all? since it was the fighting/duel to the death version of those weapons.

Dude same thing instead I have three charecters though

Dude. Same.

Same

+Eric Gruntfuttock Big disappointment in perspective ! Ha ha !

Eric Gruntfuttock it's time to take back the holy land

@@connormills5785 LMAO, loved the movie that you referenced to. I always thought the guy was so hilarious.

Sadly you'll only encounter people either dead inside or rude, strangers, and shitty rap and pop music everywhere

Same

Damn u 21 now

Hello, I'm going to be fencing soon and I'm scared of what it's going to be like so, do you have any advice?

DiamondDDY Yoko XD you got no likes!

Cutlass cames from sabre. (The real one not this metal stick)

A cutlass is a type of Sabre, it's just shortened for Naval warfare on board tight ship spaces, like the Hanger, is just a shortened Sabre designed for tight city spaces by police officers and city guard. If we trace the Sabre roots, it goes from western Europe, to Hungary, to Poland, and then through the Turks and Ottomans back to the Shamshir and Middle eastern type Scimitars. The Sabre is basically a Shamshir with a complex more advanced Hilt.

Just happened

Your thinking of something like HEMA which is historical european martial arts but there are many martial arts out there coming from various regions. A few more are eskrima Silat and ARMA

When I was a newbie, I thought it would be more like sword fighting as well. Boy was I wrong!

Old Soul or Kendo right

It kinda is (not including the foil) they are all swords

Broadswords.

Lorenzo Giancristofaro pretty much, but in the vast majority of competitions (especially once you get to olympic level etc) pistol grips are used because theyre more pleasant to hold and fence with.

@@creme8338 Pistol makes you stronger, french makes you longer (reach). It comes down to personal preference and style of fencing. The french handle also gives you a better balance of the weapon.

might not be related to fencing, but i love estocs :P

I love estocs too! 🗿😃

What about epee?

Redgum Épée will likely be good for you. I'm an Épéeist with the same problems, and it works great

1957 Zorro's sword looks like the saber here as well

So do i!

Im 9

I’m not sure if you’ve already started or not but the best place to get one is probably through a local club as they would be able to rent it out to you at the start and maybe recommend or suggest places to get them from or they could order some for you themselves.

why tf would u do that?? so you have no reach? If you really want to pull something like that try HEMA

Like Princess Bride kinda?.

@@zhangbill1194 even in hema it's a stupid idea... more of a movie thing

just buy ravenous hydra

Uncoordinated Randomness wow, you too?

Because you saw this in your recommended and clicked, it didn't magically take you here

"aponant"

MultiJd88 nope

If done INcorrectly OR if you suffer a nasty stumble/fall/trip !

They're the bestest

I think it's spelt epá

Joe Varley It's Épée

Bro if u have speed so saber if u have good hand grip and good techniques so epee.. Or if u have good grip and strength so foil

Some kind of spanish rapier or some derivative.

It may be an advantage, inasmuch as most people are right-handed, you may find that as a leftie, you'll confuse & confound your rightie opponents! .

David Walker Connects the sword to the electric system that detects pressure on the tip (i.e. a hit). In foil and saber, electrical contact with the opponent's lamé is also included in the system.

Sends a signal if you hit the guy

It's called pistol. He's just fuckin being weird

@@MT-ig7bs It has different names. Nothing weird about that.

It's called orthopedic grip AND pistol grip. It's called orthopedic grip because it's historically made for finger amputee who cannot use traditional grip (French, Italian, etc.) anymore

Am I the only one who hates the pistol grip?

hunter solar Problem with sabre is that it's over in seconds. Both fencers charge in, perhaps one parry is made, and then a point is scored almost immediately.

Like every other person who ever discovered fencing

***** thanks

nigga

Do it!

lol xD looks like im not alone thinking about fiora

Fiora is

Good news. I, a teenager, have taken up fencing. Èpèe of course, because it the best one. :)

Not if the other guy has one two

George Parrott But that means it is if the opponent needs one too xD

An Epeeist could destroy a Saberist any day

Foil is a weapon of convention so you need the right of way to attack which is a bit dumb considering if you have just been killed in a duel you can't say no you should be dead but épée has the whole body target instead of torso and you can hit any time so epee has no right of way and the most realistic rules for a duel (first blood.)

Toby Brewer Foil fencing was developed as a sport following the outlawing of duelling in Europe. The sport was developed along with similar rules to contemporary sports popular among the aristocracy (the duelling class), such as racket and ball games.

Really? I knew it was a sport as it still is but not like that, thanks. Although they were used in a duel, almost certainly not with convention.

Blade weight, shape, guard, length, rigidity, target area, and right of way. The èpèe is heavier, triangular in shape, longer, but sometimes the same length, and the bell guard is larger, and covers the wrist just about entirely. The epee’s blade is more rigid, and consequently has a little less flex than the èpèe. The target area of the èpèe is all of the fencer’s body, and the foil’s target area is just the fencer’s torso. Finally, is a principal in foil and sabre fencing called right of way, which essentially determines hit priority (For example an attack has priority over an counterattack.), but the right of way does not apply to èpèe fencing. A simultaneous hit (forty milliseconds) between two fencers will result in both fencers receiving one point.

When you say "sword", you obviously don't mean epee de combat or smallsword then? theodora.com/encyclopedia/e/epeedecombat.html

well swords are not really considered weapons anymore

zhang Bill but they are weapons....

Actually it is a weapon 😂I fence foil and even if I wear my uniform I can still feel the stab and I once ended up w bruises 💀

So duelling swords were not swords then..?

Jesus Christ man, had a stroke? It’s flexible for the sake of shock absorption, so that you’re not being run through with a rigid metal rod. It also helps with durability, as stiffer blades tend to absorb trauma less effectively, making them brittle.

You should google HEMA. Search for Longsword fencing, Rapier fencing or sword and buckler Fencing. Check out the Blood and Iron HEMA KZfaq Channel. That is what fencing should be!

well there are still people who prefer the French grip opposed to the pistol grip

+julia oneill They're fence swords.

OOH WE GOT A FUCKIN WEEB

and the katana doesn't?