Fender Tone Master Princeton vs Princeton 68 and Boss Katana

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In this video I compare the Fender Tone Master Princeton Reverb to my own 68 Princeton and my Boss Katana Mki. Let me know what you think in the comments.
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@RichBischoff Жыл бұрын

Hey guys, Thanks for watching! Let me know what you think of the Tone Master Princeton? Please remember to like and subscribe, and stop by Spotify to listen to some music. open.spotify.com/artist/3GoaK66hG2Al2gf6ync58b?si=L7XJVS7aTCWMPUMLTpFD3Q&dl_branch=1

@dmac3316 Жыл бұрын

Cool video. The Katana again proves why it’s been so successful. I did a similar comparison in a store the other day and was surprised how well I could dial in a Katana to sound like the Tonemaster Princeton. Not the same but close and like you said for playing live no one will know or care. Thanks for the vid!!

@pathway777 4 ай бұрын

LOVE THE TON MASTER. THAT IS THE ONE I AM GETTING . THANK YOU

@curtishansen7270 Жыл бұрын

Hey, I've commented in the past, but just want to say your presentations are ALWAYS way cool!! Thanks again!!

@AnkurWow Жыл бұрын

Was surprised how well the Katana held up, though it wasn't as dynamic as the other two. And agreed--the Princeton tube amp sounded the fullest. I'd pick the Katana based on price, but the Princeton Tone Master for weight and practicality.

@ckallaher 5 күн бұрын

The Katana was surprisingly tasty. I thought the tube version of the Princeton probably suffered the most from the phone recording though I agree that it makes for a good “in the room” comparison. But harder to pick up that weight you’re talking about through the phone. On balance, the Tone Master gets my vote for the combination of sound, features, convenience and, at least compared to the tube version, price. Great playing, too! Love that Nashville Tele.

@Bill-se4gr Жыл бұрын

Even your noodling sounds awesome 😎 I agree with you on the Princeton, but I do give the edge to the Tonemaster given all those features you mentioned. But I actually prefer that Blackstar Amped 1 sitting on that Marshall cab- just bought one from your link based on your review and gig vlog!

@DennisAlvarezMusic Жыл бұрын

Useful and interesting content Rich. I thought all the amps sounded very good, with obvious differences. What I like about the Katana is the affordability and versatility of it. The Katana itself can cover more musical territory than the other two amps on their own. But if you want ideal Fender tones, then which ever of the two Fenders that suit you would be best for you. I've been very impressed with the tones that The Studio Rats have been getting with Katanas.

@christophervincent8420 Жыл бұрын

I think the Tone Master line is exceptional. They sound closer to the real thing than any other digital or solid base amps simulators. They can take the place of the tube amps that are very heavy to hall out. Look at Pearl Jam. Yes, Tone Master Deluxe Reverb Blackface with Tone Master Twin Blonde.

@markkennedy5712 Жыл бұрын

I have a Tonemaster Twin. Love it. I thought it was best of all the three.

@whenvioletsturngrey9597 Жыл бұрын

About what I found between my tone master & my old tube amp. The Tone Master sounds compressed & a little much on the high end. I love my Tone Master. I run an old MXR non bypassed pedal (off position) to round off some of the high end. Great sounding amp, though. The tone masters make a hell of a versatile clone, if you aren’t a big pedalboard person(I’m not, admittedly). The Katana also sounded better than I expected. Thanks for throwing it in.

@steveburrows101 Жыл бұрын

Agree the tube Princeton had a bit more depth and smoothness. But they each sound great, the Katana was the shocker for me, made me question the benefit of spending all that extra cash on the tone master. Thanks for the demo.

@zazoomatt Жыл бұрын

I Agree with you TOTALLY. They all have functions & Attributes marking Progress in Different weights & gig needs. The whole I do NOT like about my Katana 212 mark II and the Tonemaster is if ANYTHING Goes BAMPOP no way to fix them within reason unless under warranty. Maybe someday DigitalAmpRepair will happen for parts to fix them within money out & shipping VS. NEW Purchase. There is NO Tube Shortage as Predicted in 3-2022. Just comes with the NEW Territory I recon. Thanks Rich

@geoffreysmith4618 6 ай бұрын

Great review.

@RichBischoff 6 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@redgegraves8749 10 ай бұрын

Tone Master is beautiful. Props to the Katana though, it shouldn't even be close! Nice.

@sim0n17 Жыл бұрын

neat demo - might be fun to add a Vox Pathfinder 15R to the comparison - nice little amp and ultra light. also a VERY light tube combo is the LANEY VC15 - I use and own one for over 15 years and it it awesome! gigs well, sounds better than the Vox AC15, and is a durable 2 channel amp for a 3rd (1/2 if you find NOS) the price of the tone master. very surprised, having just looked, at the steep price on the tone master.

@carolynshulman Жыл бұрын

Cool comparison! Man. For me, the Princeton Tonemaster took the cake, but I'm really biased in favor of that beautiful Fender chime, and that amp has it in spades. The '68 tends to break up a little faster than the '65, and I think that came through a bit in this video. As a disclaimer, I should say I traded in my Boss Katana 50 for the Princeton Tonemaster a couple of weeks ago, but in general, I've always favored the tone of the '65 Princeton to the '68 when playing them back to back in guitar shops. For me, having that nice Jensen speaker in the Princeton gives both Princeton amps the edge over the Katana. But the Katana is an awesome entry level amp - you kinda can't beat its value for that purpose.

@jimmyparris9892 Жыл бұрын

I've wanted one of the Princeton amps since they came out with 65 re-issue and the 68 mod, or whatever that one is called. They're higher wattage than I'll ever need though. I'm just a living room guitar noodler. I like that the Tonemaster has the attenuator, but I got the new Vibro-Champ Reverb Amp and I think it's just a Princeton in a smaller package. It's got all the same knobs and a 10" speaker. I'm happy with it for sure.

@Fret-knot Жыл бұрын

I can hear the difference between the 3 amps, but honestly, I couldn't say which one I preferred. They all sounded good.

@deddiev1718 2 ай бұрын

I have the tonemaster blonde deluxe and with pedals it’s great

@andybellgardt7925 7 ай бұрын

Howdy Friends, for me ist the Tone Master the Champ !!! Great and super Sound ! I have "2" Super Reverbs parallel, their Sound is amazing !!! I give my two 59 Bassman for the Tone Master Super Reverbs away. Best wishes from Hamburg....Andreas

@bellow6189 Жыл бұрын

Great playing as usual Rich. They all sounded really good and much of that is your soulful playing. I might give a slight edge to the 68 Princeton. The Katana amps continue to impress me and are probably the best value amps on the planet. For the price of the Tonemaster you could buy 3 Katanas with money left over. For me I would go with the 68 but would take a Katana over a Tonemaster. Just not enough difference to justify the price difference.

@RichBischoff Жыл бұрын

Thanks, and truth.

@Miles1965 Ай бұрын

Nice telecaster!

@bluessumlin...7067 Жыл бұрын

Tone master so close but the tube amp like you mentioned Rich still has that edge… katana did well still a great all round amp!🙂

@christophersinisi1109 Жыл бұрын

The Tone Master sounds the best in this demo!

@mdhj67 10 ай бұрын

They all sound good. They did not sound the same but I wouldn't say any one amp was better or worse. Like the way you play.

@FLdb-wj4wc Жыл бұрын

I have the blonde tone master. It's the first non tube amp I really like. I didn't like the helix or the Amparo. Blonde tone master holds up. I never feel like I'm not playing a tube amp as I did with the helix. It's light and dependable and I think I'm going to check out the Princeton master.

@spider5001 Жыл бұрын

Nice! Through my headphones the tone master sounded clearer. The tube sounded kinda washed out with all that reverb

@damianhannon1581 Жыл бұрын

Quite impressed by the Katana's Fendery sound there, what settings/preset do you use to get that. I am right now thinking about the amp I want next, whether to upgrade my Katana, go to something like the Tonemaster (or Mustang GTX) or something like a Fender Blue Junior sort of amp. Nice to start seeing some more comparison videos that are a bit more diverse across what they compare!

@RichBischoff Жыл бұрын

Just the clean amp model on the Katana with a little high end rolled off and some verb.

@yeehawtwistyarms Жыл бұрын

Great comparison, which do you prefer out of the tone master Deluxe and and TM Princeton? Will be getting one of them for home use only, on the fence on which one though.

@mattmanley7118 Жыл бұрын

Been waiting to see the TM Princeton. Might trade in my tube version. Built in attenuator is great feature beats hooking one up manually

@RichBischoff Жыл бұрын

I'll have demo on the just the TM coming out soon.

@mattmanley7118 Жыл бұрын

@@RichBischoff nice!

@knizek4 11 ай бұрын

Rich did you ever do a full video on the TM?

@mitchhamilton4151 Жыл бұрын

Out of the three, I feel like the '68 was a real nice smooth traditional Fender tone, and the Tone-Master sounded a little brighter(to my ear). I thought the Katana sounded a little muddier than the Princetons, but I'd still like to sit down with a Katana one of these days to see what it can really do - I hear nothing but rave reviews regarding them. I like my tubes, so the '68 Princeton takes the cake for the tone, but I think all three have merit. The fact the Tonemaster and Katana can be picked up with a finger is a real plus! Thanks for the comparison, Rich! 😀

@lehmusic2675 Жыл бұрын

I got a Katana 100 a few months ago and love it! This past week I did a direct recording with a baritone and the tone was really good.

@rjb7260 Жыл бұрын

Effects and features aside.. Nothing beats a good ole Tube amp for tone.

@alafenetre81 Жыл бұрын

I compared the 65 tube PRRI to the solid state TM PR and the tube version is night and day better sounding than the TM. In person, it's obvious.

@GuitarJawn Жыл бұрын

I'm going to wait for the Tone Masters to inevitability hit the used market.

@matthewstearle7395 Жыл бұрын

Agree on the tube amp,Tonemaster close,Boss great for the money

@themomentkiller9167 Жыл бұрын

It would seem that the only tangible reasons you would buy a TM Is weight and volume attenuation. My 65 PRRI has a 12” speaker and even for my old back is manageable. Practicing at home, I go through my Boss GT1000 which acts as an attenuator. I crank the Princeton and have the volume on the Boss on around 2 or 3 and I can get some decent dirt without the complaints.

@mikevanleeuwen2858 Жыл бұрын

to me the real tube princeton was fuller , tubey er . The tone master was thinner . The Katana very good. Better than the princetone TM to my eras. The katana sounded more similar to the real tube amp and fendery to me than the TM . I tested a TM deluxe next to a katana mk 2 in a store and the Katana held up very good. To be honest , I liked the katana better. The TM has a very good spring simulation ( just like the real one) . But without the spring sim engaged. The katana sounds very punchy and real in the room. And the katana on the spring rev setting is pretty good as well

@ToddDengler-sm5oq Жыл бұрын

I ordered a TM, haven't gotten it yet. from your video, i hear it's missing a lot of that big low end that the Tube has.

@johnrichardson1867 11 ай бұрын

A dry sound would be nice also.

@johowohoj 8 ай бұрын

I have the katana mkii ex… Just spent the morning trying to dial, in some usable tones the just using the ga-fc ex switcher… also two guitars, a LP and a Duo Sonic, so humbucker and single coils… Each having very different signal levels… I’m almost to the point of giving up on the katana as it may be too variable… I was hoping to be able to leave the pedalboard at home and have to sounds I need selectable with the katana foot switch, but I think it may be easier to just use something like the Princeton tonemaster with my pedalboard… I just bought a Celestion Neo Creamback which sounds very nice in the Katana and may lighten it up just a bit more though if I bought a the Princeton tonemaster, it would no doubt still win the lightness contest… Well there are no easy picks… I actually like the sound of the tonemaster of the 3 amps you played… guess I need to do a field trip and go check them out… Thanks for the video…

@RichBischoff 8 ай бұрын

I only like the katana as a pedal platform on the clean channel. I dial it really clean and just use pedal infront. I sometimes might have a touch of the Katanas reverb on.

@AlexanderSchwend Ай бұрын

2:22 Princeton '68 3:04 Tonemaster 3:51 Katana I 4:51 Princeton '68 5:26 Tonemaster

@travishernandez2193 Жыл бұрын

I thought the tone master sounded the best and want to get one soon. I’m curious if they feedback like a real amp and have that response.

@Fonkemman 7 ай бұрын

Could you share the patch/settings on the Katana?

@PurchaseReviews Жыл бұрын

Don’t think there is anything else on the market for the price that comes close to the Katana. All depends how much people want to spend. Couldn’t be happier with mine.

@glenndavis479 Жыл бұрын

Warmth of the tube and endless possibilities on the Katana...the tone master seems limited. My MK3 Katana ( Single 12 x 100 ) is a pretty special bit of kit when ya tweak it but I sure can't pick it up with me pinky. LOL I seriously liked all 3 mate...horse's for course's I guess.

@what1864 Жыл бұрын

felt like the top end was missing from the tube amp , on the recording at least ...

@jimmy5634 7 ай бұрын

I thought the tome master sounded thinner and brighter of the three. In all the You Tube comparisons that seems to be the case.

@1970Richiez Жыл бұрын

yep they all sounded good to me.. No favourite

@uscfroadie Жыл бұрын

The Katana has a Class A/B amp which is much heavier than the Class D in the Tone Master. That’s why it is heavier.

@braddietzmusic2429 Жыл бұрын

How about a Fender solid state shootout (yes, all the Tone Masters are fundamentally SOLID STATE amplifiers) where one of these Tone Masters compares to say a Fender 112se or Fender Ultra Chorus?????

@RichBischoff Жыл бұрын

Wish I had access to all those amps.

@pedrolourenco2707 Жыл бұрын

The 68 sounds darker but it could be the position to the camera's microphone... what did you felt?

@RichBischoff Жыл бұрын

It's a darker amp in general because it has a 1x10 Celestion

@JillandKevin 6 ай бұрын

Is that a 1968 Princeton Reverb, or a '68 Custom (reissue)? As I understand, the Tone Master is voiced to a '65 Princeton Reverb, and the '68 RI is voiced for earlier breakup (which not ALL of us want), so tonal comparisons do not cover a tube ''65 RI, so....

@mostyles328 2 ай бұрын

Live in a band mix... you would never know!

@stevetodd629 Жыл бұрын

The tone master sounded clearer and full tone

@gypsysteve3576 Жыл бұрын

65 princeton would be a good comparison

@royhale7283 Жыл бұрын

I thought the tone master had a bit more clarity

@blkleblanc Жыл бұрын

The 68 did steal the show. Does the 68 take pedals well?

@RichBischoff Жыл бұрын

Yes

@blkleblanc Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your response. I’m currently torn between a 65 or 68 Deluxe Reverb and a 65 or 68 Princeton Reverb for home and jam use. Your videos on the Princeton amplifiers and the have been helpful.

@rlin2648 Жыл бұрын

Was this recorded with a shotgun mic?

@Jonathan-L 11 ай бұрын

Boss Katana wins on bang for buck.

@SweetPablo972 Жыл бұрын

It’s amazing how good they all sound. I preferred the Tonemaster and the Katana to the tube amp, based on this example. The reverb on the tube amp was too much for my taste.

@Sheegog1972 4 ай бұрын

It just proves that it has more to do with the driver than the car. A good musician could use any of these and no listener would know.

@Paul_Lenard_Ewing Жыл бұрын

I just don't see the value of any of these modeled amps.The first thing I did was check out Kijiji and for the same money as the Tonemaster I could buy the Princeton tube amp used. A guy can buy that keep for a few years and make more profit than that same money sitting in a savings account. It means he had the use of that amp for free. Modelers are virtually computers and keep a modeler for a few years and it's value totally tanks. You would be smarter to get the Valetone GP-200LT modeler with dozen of amp sounds and dozens of FX. for $280. In recent demo shows it sounds as good as other brands costing 3 times the money. Just plug it into the clean channel of any of a dozen cheap used amps. You would have many more sounds equal to if not even better the quality and with amp you can break even selling.

@user-nu7xx7pc1d Жыл бұрын

tubes!!

@ekkuapo62 Жыл бұрын

Funny that people are commenting that tube Princeton was best…I guess just because it is a tube amp. My honest opinion is that it sounded crappy and mushed. I assume that reason for it was that you were sitting in front of tube Princeton and you blocked most of the highs with your body.

@RichBischoff Жыл бұрын

I noticed that as well. I was infront of it. But it's also a darker amp anyway.

@samnewton5959 Жыл бұрын

I find all the Fender 68's to be too dark and just kind of dull sounding.

@stewarttomkinson3356 Жыл бұрын

i have a katana but the tube amp sounds better

@georgecaplan11 Жыл бұрын

I have a Katana. Nothing in this video makes me think I really need to change it for a Fender.

@RichBischoff Жыл бұрын

Right. You really don't. Great amp and pedal platform.

@Prajnana Жыл бұрын

The Princeton 68 has, hands down, the best tone - a harmonic richness that the SS amps lacked. The Tone Master does sound more like the Princeton 65, but way too sterile. Surprised that the Katana sounded as good to my ears as the TM. For (what?) half the price or less, I'd be bummed if I just paid nearly a grand for a TM. Ultimately, for me, any amp choise comes down to the one with superior tone.

@soofitnsexy Жыл бұрын

no contest the 68 was number 1...the TM was not terrible...i never liked the TMs because they sounded very fake and the reverb didnt have the body....but the TM is cheap

@robertschultz7612 Жыл бұрын

I’m surprised by the amount of reverb you are using …… tone gets lost in the sea of reverb …… I love the videos ……

@RichBischoff Жыл бұрын

I honestly didn't mean to use that much and it didn't sound like that much when I played, but when I listed back I was like...

@45zapatero Жыл бұрын

@@RichBischoff KZfaq audio compression can cause this...

@SuperEdge67 Жыл бұрын

You should be more careful with your pinky…….I strained mine and couldn’t play message in a bottle for weeks.

@jhvuvnik65s24 6 ай бұрын

I can't believe I'm saying this, but the actual Princeton doesn't sound as good as the tonemaster. Katana does great for what it is. With Katana Artist with its superior speaker, it really is hard to tell the difference