Absolutely! I know why you have the Big Bud's👍😆

Welkers ! Any collabs coming up ? ^^

Ya it’s so dumb. At least some form of temp bypass but it’s the same on all diesels these days. I know on our 2016 dodge if you throw a def code on the Highway, have fun doing 6 mph on the shoulder limping home

Better overall engine performance Increase the fuel economy No engine light problems No limp mode No more need of DEF AdBlue liquid Lower repair and maintenance costs Longer engine life

Are you considering a other tractor

Well, I'm pretty sure that would be operator error, since you would've been running the tractor ignoring the code for quite a while. Like the description says: "... it FINALLY derated me", which I take as "I ignored it for a long time, and now after a long time it derated the tractor". So yeah, blame the tractor all you want, but it would be operator error in that case.

@@timderks5960 if you watch Mikes vid he moves on road sometimes for hours at a stretch. They farm 100s of miles north.

​@@jandcco I'm well aware. That however is not a normal scenario, especially not in Europe, where Fendts are made. Sure, a countdown would be nice, like "You will be derated in 1h", and one for 15m and 1m or something like that, but it's just uncommon to have a tractor so far from home, so hardly anyone would need such a warning. And even if they were so far from home, anywhere but the extreme outback like where Mike is would have a service center within an hour's drive, so there's just no reason for a longer delay. Again: if you're driving on a public road with a code of which you know it's going to derate your engine at some point, it's 100% operator error. Could it be better? Sure. Is there a valid reason for it to be better? Unless I'm way overestimating how much time was between the code showing up and the engine derating (I'm assuming at least 4 to 6 hours, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was longer), nope.

@@timderks5960 according to what mike said in the video there is around 16h+ between the first warning pop-up and the full derate. so ye, operator error if it was on the road..

@@timderks5960 you def. never watch or listen to Mike what so ever, asking these questions or make statements of this kind. 🤔🙄

I think it was Art Burke on ice road trucks

A KZfaqr "Danger Industries" who does hauling in Canada got derated in the night, in the middle of nowhere during winter. If he didn't have cellphone signal he could be stuck cold on a low traffic road in freezing arctic weather, where a diesel engine at idle can't provide sufficient heat due to efficiency considerations. DEF will at best cost you money and time, if you are really unlucky it can kill you, best to disable and kill that system as soon as possible.

Deere can already to this, have been able to for years, but its pretty strict requirements to do it.

None of my stuff has a bypass. Lots of regen cycles on water truck and forklifts. Loaders run hot enough we get by with 6 000 hour DPF filter exchange. Is a drag when class 8 trucks Christmas tree the dash and everything stops.

Just get Ivan from "Pine Hollow" to come around and cut in a ~Ohm or 3V reference back to the ECU and you will never see a Def Quality code again... Warranty out the window of course.

Lol I was thinking of 1 or 2 of these tractors just in case, when they fail they can swap out till it’s fixed

@@vxnova1 Tape two of them to the roof lol.

I think then Problem is that agco got hacked and dealers at least here in germany weren t / aren t able to order stuff directly

Yes, that seems like a pretty standard sensor

@@maximiliameindl4558 so their IT staff suck too! Allowing hackers in and not being able to recover quickly,

Surprised there hadn't been an aftermarket chip made to bypass def in such a case

That and fuel injectors. Lots of fuel injectors

And high pressure pumps

The AGCO should be forced to pay him as much money as he loses every day till they get the tractor fixed.

The problem is that you got a such small series of tractors that you don't got 1000 tractors in prototype stages. You won't get every little detail right. The aftermarket support is pretty important then

@@juliushollmann9938 basic def issues should not be corner conditions - frustrating

Junk!

@@atnfn government should be forced to pay for losses.. it's their mandates for emissions

Def is total garbage, more junk for the dump.

still better then a international truck produced between 2011- 2014.

Much more than half mill..

@@dusanignjatov7658 Even better dude. Thankfully AGCO has great tech support. But as he mentioned,time is very valuable to him which he lost.

Thinking the exact same thing

I'm a steiger tech. The def is on the side and fully accessible

Same thing I said to somebody else who made this dumb comment: Read the description. It says "... it FINALLY derated me", ie. "I ignored the error for a long time, and now after a long time the tractor got derated". If this happens to you when crossing anything, it's your own stupid fault, because you ignored the error for WAY too long.

Emissions regulations are anticivilizational.

@@timderks5960 what was he supposed to do, just park the tractor and twiddle his thumbs? When it's time to seed, it's time to seed. Even minutes of downtime can snowball. It's ridiculous that the entire tractor can get ground to a halt over a sensor issue (and even more ridiculous that it's a NEW tractor with issues already). Go somewhere else with your bad takes

Also love/ hate how the sensor is intergrated with the DEF heater coils. Fine when AGCO is footing the bill but means the price of the whole assembly would suck. If you were super stuck trying to source parts it looked like you could replace just the sensor but given the time and effort involved that would be a last resort.

Who says he did take it well, There is those little thing called - off camera and Playing it cool for the Camera

Shit he did well to hold it together for the camera I'd be throwing the camera though the window I can imagine what was said on the phone call The dealer was probably happier than Mike that the parts had just come in cause they would've copped a flogging

@George Jones im impressed with the service tech. Not the tractor. I agree. Although i work at the facility that built this unit its extremely upsetting to see.

Its not just Fendt, construction equipment does the same, i have seen a dozer derate, fixed the sensor and not more than 10 hours later the same brand new sensor failed. I never understood how they cannot somehow blend the DEF with the fuel before it goes into the machine.

They just need to dial back the sensitivity on the sensors.

@@turnerg def is injected into the exhaust stream...mixing it with the fuel would destroy ANY diesel engine in a matter of minutes.

Just like they did with the straw chopper issue with the combines. lol

@@turnerg The DEF never gets blended with the fuel. Instead it is sprayed into the exhaust system into special catalysts where it forms ammonia and helps clean the exhaust gases

Saw one in Canada for $725 CAD, still can't figure out the manufacture. It's a combined quality sensor, with heating element heated by engine coolant.

Chet got remarried

ZK replaced one if those things in his last video.

Yup, but it sure doesn't take that long to get to it.

Those things fail on all machines. Kubota call it a DEF HEADER we've replaced enough of those.

That is why Welker’s keep using their Big Bud’s. You can always swap a motor.

I hope Mike, your 🚜 is well.

They should send a Deere loaner or some other brand because the Fendt loaner would break down again🤣

That’s would still take a full day to get a loaner out and then to swap out all the wires monitors etc !! Way too much work I’d be waiting a day or 2 before I’d even consider that option

That doesn't help... it is ignorant for any government entity to require a system on a diesel engine that it is so unreliable. As Mike commented, after 10 years, this technology should work. If this is the best any manufacturer can do in a decade, it's time to scrap this "technology" and develop something better.

That's because the Def system is actually made by Cummins. Had a def injector go on our fendt 1167 and on the part it said Cummins international. So I don't think that it is an agco problem to be honest.

5* for service for sure

1982

Yes yes.... how about no