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I had WHOOP for two years and just switched to a Garmin Forerunner 955 last month and I'm honestly mad I ever gave WHOOP money now that I've used Garmin.

I'm glad I found your video. It's taken me months to find some that is... 1. Another Brit that is using the Whoop 2. Another Triathlete and Strength trainer. Everyone that I find that reviews Whoop does the comparison of "should you get Whoop or Garmin?" and hardly anything like, ways to use both? I use a Garmin Fenix 7 (47mm) and have gotten used to sleeping with it but it's not the most comfortable, I agree. I ordered the Whoop to compliment the Garmin. However, I felt stupid having both as I was looking at it as 2 fitness trackers. However when you use the logic of Lifestyle tracker, fitness tracker. It makes more sense. Using the Whoop as a lifestyle tracker, primarily, and the Garmin as a fitness tracker makes a lot more sense. I borrowed an Oura ring for some time and wore it alongside my Garmin. Using the sleep data from the Oura, I found extremely useful and kept the Garmin as a training tool as the Oura seemed better at tracking sleep. I just didn't really like the feeling of the ring in the morning when my finger swelled up. Anyway, I've ordered another Whoop and a bicep strap this time to give it another go but will use it in the way you have to see how I get on. Will be good to see another video update in another 6 months on how it's working with your races and that? Subscribed ;-)

Honestly the best most comprehensive and honest summation of the Whoop and Garmin discussion that I’ve heard. Definitely helped me improve my usage of both.

This is exactly how I use my Garmin/heart rate strap, wristwatch, and lifestyle tracker. I found the Garmin to be too distracting for all the time wear and quiet tacky for day to day activity. I ended up doing exactly what you said, worrying too much about the metrics and less about the activity I was doing. Lift in my regular watch, run in my Garmin/Strap, and always have my lifestyle tracker, checking it only in the early morning and pre-bedtime.

Hey Fergus! Great video! I’ve used a Garmin FR945 and Whoop for 3yrs concurrently. I’m pretty competitively training for Ironmans so I lean towards my Garmin more especially since the Edge1030 integrates seamlessly, but I do really enjoy the whoop Journal and monthly reports as well as sleep tracking accuracy. But I think the Garmin sleep tracking has improved significantly in the last year or so, plus I’ve kinda figured out which of my habits help and which don’t. The Garmin body battery feature is extremely accurate with 24/7 wear. And the new FR955 has HRV trends and recovery scores. I think once my current Garmin gives out and my whoop plan runs out I’ll be running FR955 (all the Fenix features except solar in half the weight and bulk) and Vivosmart 5 w/ nice watch outside of training. The Vivosmart will sync everything over to Garmin so you don’t miss data and it’s small enough that I’d say it fits in the bracelet category. Thanks for the idea about the mental switch of putting the device on to train! I’m going to give that a try!

I have a Garmin Forerunner, which is a much easier activity tracker than the Fenix, and I wear it 24/7. This way I get permanent HR data so all the metrics from the Garmin App work well. The body battery has always felt really accurate for me and it mostly works on heart rate variability so the scientific foundation is solid.

Awesome review, thanks! Using Whoop for around 2 years now and quite happy with it…

I switched to a COROS after using Garmin for many years and I have found it so much better. The functions are equal to Garmin, but I prefer the style (thinner and lighter) as well as the superior battery life of the COROS. It also offers many of the features that whoop seem to offer.

I also only use my Fenix for activities. I have the middle size model, which it still big, but I find that useful as my eyes aren’t what they used to me and the bigger screen helps me see the data during a run. I was thinking about the whoop, but have decided to stick with the Garmin

Fergus 🤝 Using the word "holistic"

On the ‘its too big’ con of the 7X (which I agree with), the Fénix series do have normal and S options for each generation which are a bit smaller

For what it's worth, the "x" means "extra-large". "s" on the other hand means small. So Garmin does have different size watches even within the Fenix category, for example. This speaks to your point about it being too confusing, and I still think the middle/medium size (no "x" or "s") is big and heavy, but just to give a fair assessment, you did purchase the largest size that Garmin makes.

Ok, you've convinced me to purchase whoop :D I have Garmin Fenix 5x, and Garmin 820 edge for cycling, but I was missing the day-to-day data. To improve my lifestyle, sleep etc :)

Thanks for the comparison. Wondering why you bought the X at 51mm and not the regular 7 at 47mm? The regular one is much more manageable. Or the 955, which is basically a Fenix 7 in a plastic body (light weight!).

I am whoopless and use my Garmin day to day and so far have managed to not knock my wife out with it. The body battery thing on the Garmin I find to be pretty poor. It often gives me a poor night's sleep and so hardly charges the body battery total. I then do a big run and it runs down to 5 but never lower. It flat lines and I have had it at 5 for 5+ hours. I have the epix and have to say I am disappointed with the battery life and wish I had gone for the fenix instead

All makes sense, Fergus. Absolutely logical to use boundary metrics 👍🏻. Great video by the way, particularly the way you differentiate between exactly what each one does. Also enjoyed your interesting viewpoint on Garmin's marketing strategy. I certainly agree with the drawbacks you point out about wearing Garmin Fenix 24/7. The drinks cabinet backdrop is a masterpiece, btw !

One google search and you’d figure out how to turn off the Garmin suggestions in 2-3 minutes. Hardly worth complaining about

Thanks for the detailed video. I cannot stand sleeping in my Garmin, it’s uncomfortable, I need to loosen the strap which means the green light in the back flashes and wakes me up. I’m curious about sleep data as I go through tired patches with my training, considering the whoop. My Garmin battery lasts about a week but I have the brightness set high thanks to my crappy eyesight

Just used your code for my first whoop mate. Love the videos.

I honestly don't see the point in the Whoop. You don't need to go as expensive as the Fenix for a comparison. You can do all this on a Forerunner 255/265 which is around the price of 2 years subscription but will last you much longer than this with newer firmware updates coming regularly. You can also view data on the move without your phone. Personally if I'm going to put something on my wrist I expect it to at least show me the time too.

Considering you don't use it continuously (24hr wearing) you probably didn't need the top of the range. The difference would have negated a few of yr, cons: price, size, etc...

I had a Whoop for six months and I just don't understand the appeal at all. You can't use it at all during activity, so rule that out straight away. The strain score isn't linear - it is easy to get to 15 and then progressively harder to get to 21 - so it doesn't really tell you that much. Most of all, the Recovery score is simultaneously simplistic (in that it's mostly affected by sleep) and also almost always wrong. On days I felt fantastic and was fully recovered, it gave me low scores. On days when I was absolutely knackered - like during long haul travel - it gave me 90s. Nonsense. No relation to reality, so not at all useful to decide training. Honestly, I got absolutely nothing out of it. By contrast, the Garmin does so much with GPS, smart watch features, HR, activity tracking, training, body battery (which is, alone, basically the same as the whoop recovery score), and much more besides. Sorry, but Whoop is a total waste on money IMO. I have a cheap Garmin and it's absolutely perfect for all triathlon and training needs.

You're not comparing them fairly (i.e. using them the same amount). How do you expect to feel confident trusting the data from the unit you're not giving all the data it needs? This video is redundant because of this fact.

Garmin every day of the week. Connectivity to sensors, GOS activities and it does all the fitness recovery stuff. Best part? No subscription fee.

This is great. Can’t wait to hear what you say. I’ve been wanting to buy a whoop to go with my garmin 😂

Go with a Garmin Fenix 6s, or 7s. These are only 42mm so they’re not massive compared to most Garmin watches. My opinion they at 42mm they are more slick and it’s not a plate on your wrist.

Big fan of the videos Fergus. If you turn physio true up on garmin connect, it shares data through multiple garmin devices and links body battery, so I share data against my garmin venu two and edge 520. The venu 2 is a great all rounder, looks good for work too. I recommend looking into that model for anyone interested.

Hey Fergus, great video! I’m curious, do you track your workouts on the Whoop band as well as your garmin? I’ve just received my whoop band today, big thanks to you!

Appreciate the video Mr. Crawley. Could you do a video on plateaus, and breaking through them, as a hybrid athlete? Do you find it better to put emphasis on one thing, and maintain other modalities? Or is it possible to improve on everything each mesocycle? Any tips are appreciated, as I've had a rough stretch of training and am too broke to pay for your specific programming 😔

I wear an Apple Watch a whoop and an Oura. For review purposes. The Oura was amazing 2 years ago but it’s just not keeping up with the competition. The whoop hr rate during workouts is pants. But as you say it’s a lifestyle tracker. The groups in the whoop app are cool. The apple watch is making big moves to be the perfect tracker.

I use the whoop and an apple watch ultra - It's just a game changer :) bad point - Batterie ...

20:30 your office has 6 bottles of whisky in it? 😂

Always felt the forerunner 900s are the best Garmin watch really. As big as a normal Fenix, but not a X version (which are so big they're daft) and also quite a bit lighter. Garmin charges higher for the Fenix but in many ways I see them as a downgrade. The 900 forerunners I find can be worn all day, something which my mates with Fenixes cannot say. Everyone differs though of course. As for the whoop, I don't see myself using the data that it provides.

Which one track's your heart rate the best that's the main thing I care about since I have a heart disease I just wanna know at all times how fast it's beating then have a overall layout of how my body is reacting to the changes

Think the new 255 from garmin or the fenix 7s has the best of both small enough to sleep in(for me anyway) plus all the lifestyle data The 7x is way to big imo +hrv and recovery are coming to the fenix in the next update Tho whoop plus a nice normal watch is also a good combo

Would the vivosmart 5 work similar to the whoop band? To keep it all in the Garmin interface

Is the whoop recovery and hrv/sleep useful for weightlifting? I dont run but lift and do calisthenics and wanted to see if the recovery aspect of whoop are any use for these activities. I know that these activities give low strain scores since they are not high on HR, but is hrv and recovery any use for these activities on the whoop?

Hey! I currently use the Whoop 4.0 with my iPhone 13 Pro … I always close out all apps when not in use, with this said - how much will that affect my tracking if the Whoop app isn’t open and running in the background 24/7?!

Would love to bring my sleep data from whoop to Garmin. Anybody knows how ?

Pretty dope way to use them. I found the woop bit pretty interesting. I have considered it before but didn't know much about it. I've been using a garmin instinct for a few months now and have found it to be pretty great. It was pretty cheap because the instinct 2 came out. I only wear it during the day but the body battery feature seems to help a ton along with the stress monitoring. I do love the Fenix but honestly it is just rocket science to me. I think I might upgrade to the instinct 2 because I like the one I have so much. It does all the stuff I personally need without confusing me. Lol. All in all I think most the tech out there is pretty amazing.

Key for you I think is that you don’t choose to wear the Fenix 24/7 or use a Garmin bike computer and so have to have something to measure all the time. So I’ll save the money and stick to Garmin. But do agree that in your case, Whoop just makes sense, and also that Garmin probably need to do a better job is syncing everything up between their own devices - physio trueup doesn’t cover every metric apparently.

Time stamps would be great 👍

What's with this wiggling camera action. Do you have some random roommate recording you by hand. Have you heard of a tripod... Will help with smooth panning.

Sturdy review dude.

There are different size Garmin fenix you can choose from….

10:35 exactly. Whoop will be redundant if Garmin do this.

7x is THE biggest Garmin device they make, there's much smaller. I have no issues wearing mine too bed because i have man sized wrists.

You get a month free with or without a code :p

god tier review

How does whoop understand when I go to sleep? Does it check the HR or it gives for granted I will go to sleep at a certain hour? I am a shift worker and night shifts start at 2200 and should finish at 0700 but sometimes are even longer. How does that work then? I’m considering to get one to track these factors predominantly, because shift work throws your circadian circle off the window.

Tactix is top of the heap

Takk!

Comparing the 7x vs a band…. Hope you get your percentage from whoop. Jezzz

I was wondering what your prep for this video looked like? I think you might have saved a lot of time/repeating yourself with a bit more planning. This would make it easier for a viewer to get the key takeaways. Just what I needed though, I'm looking at getting a watch or other wearable soon.

buys the biggest fenix 7 they make and complains it's to big🤔

you do take it off? shower/bathing...

Stinks of an affiliate marketing exercise

What's the nice 'adult' watch? Just being nosey as a WIS

This video was fantastic, but you repeated yourself about a million times 😂

It’s 2022. I would 100% “wear” embedded tech for constant, non-wearable, unobtrusive tracking. I don’t care if I have a chip in my neck and the government can see my every move. If it’s in me, it’s not on me. Man, even stick it in my pectoral so hr data is even more slick. Zero fucks. Link it to a simple watch display or HUD display in a pair of sunnies or a screen on a bike or a fancy pair of goggles, sorted!!!! Come on Elon, get it done :)

Stopped watching as soon as you pulled sumo 😂

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