Thanks for watching everyone! If you’re keen to give Whoop a go, then you can get your first month free here: join.whoop.com/fergus 👊🏼
@neilbuckley57962 жыл бұрын
I’m just kind of interested of what’s your relationship with Whoop? It’s a fairly decent review, but if your giving discounts away then your already having your mind set?
@hardmanperformance2 жыл бұрын
I had WHOOP for two years and just switched to a Garmin Forerunner 955 last month and I'm honestly mad I ever gave WHOOP money now that I've used Garmin.
@dylannaidoo5687 Жыл бұрын
I'm looking to potentially switch from Whoop too... how is the sleep data on Garmin compared to Whoop?
@samwis41979 Жыл бұрын
@@dylannaidoo5687 I think top end Garmin gives equally as good sleep data
@davidmaskew Жыл бұрын
@@dylannaidoo5687 Anything from a Forerunner 255 and up will be as good in my opinion.
@jigilous Жыл бұрын
Does Garmin make one with no screen?
@SuperDraupnir Жыл бұрын
@@dylannaidoo5687 Lousy. Check the online tests.
@kawaquackygreen5977 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad I found your video. It's taken me months to find some that is... 1. Another Brit that is using the Whoop 2. Another Triathlete and Strength trainer. Everyone that I find that reviews Whoop does the comparison of "should you get Whoop or Garmin?" and hardly anything like, ways to use both? I use a Garmin Fenix 7 (47mm) and have gotten used to sleeping with it but it's not the most comfortable, I agree. I ordered the Whoop to compliment the Garmin. However, I felt stupid having both as I was looking at it as 2 fitness trackers. However when you use the logic of Lifestyle tracker, fitness tracker. It makes more sense. Using the Whoop as a lifestyle tracker, primarily, and the Garmin as a fitness tracker makes a lot more sense. I borrowed an Oura ring for some time and wore it alongside my Garmin. Using the sleep data from the Oura, I found extremely useful and kept the Garmin as a training tool as the Oura seemed better at tracking sleep. I just didn't really like the feeling of the ring in the morning when my finger swelled up. Anyway, I've ordered another Whoop and a bicep strap this time to give it another go but will use it in the way you have to see how I get on. Will be good to see another video update in another 6 months on how it's working with your races and that? Subscribed ;-)
@reubengrawert35552 жыл бұрын
Honestly the best most comprehensive and honest summation of the Whoop and Garmin discussion that I’ve heard. Definitely helped me improve my usage of both.
@jefejeffwell11132 жыл бұрын
This is exactly how I use my Garmin/heart rate strap, wristwatch, and lifestyle tracker. I found the Garmin to be too distracting for all the time wear and quiet tacky for day to day activity. I ended up doing exactly what you said, worrying too much about the metrics and less about the activity I was doing. Lift in my regular watch, run in my Garmin/Strap, and always have my lifestyle tracker, checking it only in the early morning and pre-bedtime.
@ferguscrawley952 жыл бұрын
That's my take my man - I've found it most valuable personally for sure!
@blakeesh34932 жыл бұрын
Hey Fergus! Great video! I’ve used a Garmin FR945 and Whoop for 3yrs concurrently. I’m pretty competitively training for Ironmans so I lean towards my Garmin more especially since the Edge1030 integrates seamlessly, but I do really enjoy the whoop Journal and monthly reports as well as sleep tracking accuracy. But I think the Garmin sleep tracking has improved significantly in the last year or so, plus I’ve kinda figured out which of my habits help and which don’t. The Garmin body battery feature is extremely accurate with 24/7 wear. And the new FR955 has HRV trends and recovery scores. I think once my current Garmin gives out and my whoop plan runs out I’ll be running FR955 (all the Fenix features except solar in half the weight and bulk) and Vivosmart 5 w/ nice watch outside of training. The Vivosmart will sync everything over to Garmin so you don’t miss data and it’s small enough that I’d say it fits in the bracelet category. Thanks for the idea about the mental switch of putting the device on to train! I’m going to give that a try!
@GlidingChiller Жыл бұрын
I have a Garmin Forerunner, which is a much easier activity tracker than the Fenix, and I wear it 24/7. This way I get permanent HR data so all the metrics from the Garmin App work well. The body battery has always felt really accurate for me and it mostly works on heart rate variability so the scientific foundation is solid.
@davidmaskew Жыл бұрын
Yes, I like the forerunner range as the watch has so many features and the forerunners are much lighter and easier to wear 24/7.
@tylerroberts7315 Жыл бұрын
So far those as far as science testing of HRVs for wearables go it seems like Whoop has the slight edge and the sleep tracking seems to also be slightly better on average.
@GlidingChiller Жыл бұрын
@@tylerroberts7315 Sleep tracking on the Forerunner is rubbish. It thinks I sleep for 9+ hours because it assumes I fell asleep at the PC later in the evening :D I suppose my HR approaches resting HR when I sit long enough.
@mamamal32 жыл бұрын
Awesome review, thanks! Using Whoop for around 2 years now and quite happy with it…
@stefanietucker96782 жыл бұрын
I switched to a COROS after using Garmin for many years and I have found it so much better. The functions are equal to Garmin, but I prefer the style (thinner and lighter) as well as the superior battery life of the COROS. It also offers many of the features that whoop seem to offer.
@ihdandia Жыл бұрын
what does coros have for 24/7 body battery, stress tracking, hrv status, morning report, training readiness?
@NickBEADG Жыл бұрын
@@ihdandiaprobably nothing. Garmin is significantly better than Coros in basically every way.
@highseastrader41907 ай бұрын
Coros has a better 24/7 battery life because it picks your HR only every 10 minutes, whereas Garmin and other brands track it every second. Coros watches and Training hub are good but still far away from Garmin (except for the indigestible Garmin Connect).
@anthonydavies9093 Жыл бұрын
I also only use my Fenix for activities. I have the middle size model, which it still big, but I find that useful as my eyes aren’t what they used to me and the bigger screen helps me see the data during a run. I was thinking about the whoop, but have decided to stick with the Garmin
@TheNemesis90902 жыл бұрын
Fergus 🤝 Using the word "holistic"
@ferguscrawley952 жыл бұрын
/'more informed decisions'
@warrenpatterson34522 жыл бұрын
On the ‘its too big’ con of the 7X (which I agree with), the Fénix series do have normal and S options for each generation which are a bit smaller
@justinjonesfitness2 жыл бұрын
Yup. I’ve got the 7 sapphire solar. The same one Fergus has but it’s the smaller version. Still the top of the line.. just a little less battery life than the x but much more comfortable
@highseastrader41907 ай бұрын
And the Forerunner 9xx have the same features with less weight 🙂
@MMichiganSalveRegina8 ай бұрын
For what it's worth, the "x" means "extra-large". "s" on the other hand means small. So Garmin does have different size watches even within the Fenix category, for example. This speaks to your point about it being too confusing, and I still think the middle/medium size (no "x" or "s") is big and heavy, but just to give a fair assessment, you did purchase the largest size that Garmin makes.
@Marr1502 жыл бұрын
Ok, you've convinced me to purchase whoop :D I have Garmin Fenix 5x, and Garmin 820 edge for cycling, but I was missing the day-to-day data. To improve my lifestyle, sleep etc :)
@NickBEADG Жыл бұрын
How's it going so far? Miss Garmin yet?
@dnserror893 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comparison. Wondering why you bought the X at 51mm and not the regular 7 at 47mm? The regular one is much more manageable. Or the 955, which is basically a Fenix 7 in a plastic body (light weight!).
@keirallen812 жыл бұрын
I am whoopless and use my Garmin day to day and so far have managed to not knock my wife out with it. The body battery thing on the Garmin I find to be pretty poor. It often gives me a poor night's sleep and so hardly charges the body battery total. I then do a big run and it runs down to 5 but never lower. It flat lines and I have had it at 5 for 5+ hours. I have the epix and have to say I am disappointed with the battery life and wish I had gone for the fenix instead
@KidtipsyEthn2 жыл бұрын
I have the Epix 2 also. The Fenix 7 and the Epix 2 are the same watch other then the screen. I have been using the Garmin series of watches for years. I find the Body Battery to be pretty accurate. Maybe you need to factory reset your device.
@nigeljohnwilson4549 Жыл бұрын
All makes sense, Fergus. Absolutely logical to use boundary metrics 👍🏻. Great video by the way, particularly the way you differentiate between exactly what each one does. Also enjoyed your interesting viewpoint on Garmin's marketing strategy. I certainly agree with the drawbacks you point out about wearing Garmin Fenix 24/7. The drinks cabinet backdrop is a masterpiece, btw !
@bentaylor2235 Жыл бұрын
One google search and you’d figure out how to turn off the Garmin suggestions in 2-3 minutes. Hardly worth complaining about
@Nayz13 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the detailed video. I cannot stand sleeping in my Garmin, it’s uncomfortable, I need to loosen the strap which means the green light in the back flashes and wakes me up. I’m curious about sleep data as I go through tired patches with my training, considering the whoop. My Garmin battery lasts about a week but I have the brightness set high thanks to my crappy eyesight
@markburke6094 Жыл бұрын
Just used your code for my first whoop mate. Love the videos.
@coleparker444 Жыл бұрын
How do you like it?
@davidmaskew Жыл бұрын
I honestly don't see the point in the Whoop. You don't need to go as expensive as the Fenix for a comparison. You can do all this on a Forerunner 255/265 which is around the price of 2 years subscription but will last you much longer than this with newer firmware updates coming regularly. You can also view data on the move without your phone. Personally if I'm going to put something on my wrist I expect it to at least show me the time too.
@dnserror893 ай бұрын
Agreed! Especially with that last sentence, LOL!
@gunnercool19712 жыл бұрын
Considering you don't use it continuously (24hr wearing) you probably didn't need the top of the range. The difference would have negated a few of yr, cons: price, size, etc...
@ferguscrawley952 жыл бұрын
Agreed! However, I planned to wear it continuously when I got it - but then found the sleep data massively unreliable + all the other elements I mentioned = here we are!
@oliverc12932 жыл бұрын
I had a Whoop for six months and I just don't understand the appeal at all. You can't use it at all during activity, so rule that out straight away. The strain score isn't linear - it is easy to get to 15 and then progressively harder to get to 21 - so it doesn't really tell you that much. Most of all, the Recovery score is simultaneously simplistic (in that it's mostly affected by sleep) and also almost always wrong. On days I felt fantastic and was fully recovered, it gave me low scores. On days when I was absolutely knackered - like during long haul travel - it gave me 90s. Nonsense. No relation to reality, so not at all useful to decide training. Honestly, I got absolutely nothing out of it. By contrast, the Garmin does so much with GPS, smart watch features, HR, activity tracking, training, body battery (which is, alone, basically the same as the whoop recovery score), and much more besides. Sorry, but Whoop is a total waste on money IMO. I have a cheap Garmin and it's absolutely perfect for all triathlon and training needs.
@ferguscrawley952 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your input Oliver! Sounds very different to my experience thus far. Just to give my input on some elements: I don't think the strain score is intended to be linear, but more of a relative curve to establish an overall balance of demand across CV disciplines across the week (if one was to use it that way) - but strain is the metric I personally pay least attention to as I am very confident in my programming execution over the years. However, I HAVE found the input from strain to sleep and recovery recommendations to better inform my decisions around bigger training days than previously - so that's where the value has been for me. I agree that Garmin has way more features, but found the sleep data when I have used Garmin previously to be wildly inaccurate (had me asleep when driving for example), hence why I never even explore body battery as a metric. The main point here is that neither Garmin nor WHOOP should determine your training/programming IMO, but should rather sit as another metric point for you to make decisions on programming from there. And on your point 'not at all useful to decide training' - I don't believe this should be how either device should be used in isolation, and that they should be used for the purposes that I set out in the video - understanding their limitations gives clearer parameters on how to use the information they give you! (Hence Training Peaks being my detail database for it all). I entirely agree that Garmin is perfect for all training/triathlon needs as an activity tracker - but WHOOP for me is separate to training triathlon as I said in the video, I have a lot more to worry about than just training/tri hence why WHOOP sits well for me in my ecosystem of 'things to consider'! Again, the main point is that whatever works for the individual is what matters! But just thought I'd clarify on my perspective on the above in case it wasn't clear in the video!
@oliverc12932 жыл бұрын
@@ferguscrawley95 Really appreciate this, Fergus - thanks. And my slightly dismissive comment wasn't meant as a negative reflection on the video or Whoop's efforts to create a great lifestyle tool. On the strain score, the problem for me is that I can't really see how to make use of that in my training. The biggest issue: a bike + brick run in the morning and a swim in the evening (possibly the hardest day of the week) might score 18 Day Strain, say. But a day with a similar bike ride alone might take you up to 15.5-16. So you're not really getting much comparable information, and you certainly can't take a relative view of strain on different days. I hope that makes sense. I didn't see too many patterns between strain and recovery, which was a little odd. Mostly my recovery seemed to be determined by hours of sleep, which wasn't very insightful. Even when I started logging activities, there weren't many insightful patterns. Interesting point about Garmin sleep data. I had better watch out for that! So far so good, I think. Ultimately, I train according to my plan, adjusted if I feel that I'm overtraining or my performance is dropping off (which is partly reflected by my Garmin data, I suppose). I don't expect them to do everything, but Garmin does just seem to offer so much more for my needs than Whoop ever could. This was a great video and you reflected all this very comprehensively. Maybe I'd find a role for a Whoop if I had unlimited funds but for £360+ per year I ultimately decided to let that one go.
@niclaswennstrom220215 күн бұрын
You're not comparing them fairly (i.e. using them the same amount). How do you expect to feel confident trusting the data from the unit you're not giving all the data it needs? This video is redundant because of this fact.
@evantozer Жыл бұрын
Garmin every day of the week. Connectivity to sensors, GOS activities and it does all the fitness recovery stuff. Best part? No subscription fee.
@jeyomcnugget9584 Жыл бұрын
This is great. Can’t wait to hear what you say. I’ve been wanting to buy a whoop to go with my garmin 😂
@AaronRobinProductions Жыл бұрын
Go with a Garmin Fenix 6s, or 7s. These are only 42mm so they’re not massive compared to most Garmin watches. My opinion they at 42mm they are more slick and it’s not a plate on your wrist.
@reecebond75512 жыл бұрын
Big fan of the videos Fergus. If you turn physio true up on garmin connect, it shares data through multiple garmin devices and links body battery, so I share data against my garmin venu two and edge 520. The venu 2 is a great all rounder, looks good for work too. I recommend looking into that model for anyone interested.
@chrismelhuish22082 жыл бұрын
Hey Fergus, great video! I’m curious, do you track your workouts on the Whoop band as well as your garmin? I’ve just received my whoop band today, big thanks to you!
@ianmoats25272 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the video Mr. Crawley. Could you do a video on plateaus, and breaking through them, as a hybrid athlete? Do you find it better to put emphasis on one thing, and maintain other modalities? Or is it possible to improve on everything each mesocycle? Any tips are appreciated, as I've had a rough stretch of training and am too broke to pay for your specific programming 😔
@AngusLogan2 жыл бұрын
I wear an Apple Watch a whoop and an Oura. For review purposes. The Oura was amazing 2 years ago but it’s just not keeping up with the competition. The whoop hr rate during workouts is pants. But as you say it’s a lifestyle tracker. The groups in the whoop app are cool. The apple watch is making big moves to be the perfect tracker.
@tristanr87044 ай бұрын
I use the whoop and an apple watch ultra - It's just a game changer :) bad point - Batterie ...
@johnauld985110 ай бұрын
20:30 your office has 6 bottles of whisky in it? 😂
@NoxiousNoodles2 жыл бұрын
Always felt the forerunner 900s are the best Garmin watch really. As big as a normal Fenix, but not a X version (which are so big they're daft) and also quite a bit lighter. Garmin charges higher for the Fenix but in many ways I see them as a downgrade. The 900 forerunners I find can be worn all day, something which my mates with Fenixes cannot say. Everyone differs though of course. As for the whoop, I don't see myself using the data that it provides.
@davidmaskew Жыл бұрын
I agree, and as for lifespan I am actually still using a 735xt that's around 5 years old so hearing he's only getting a couple of years out of a Fenix seems bad. I'm currently looking to upgrade/update for the newer features.
@NoxiousNoodles Жыл бұрын
@@davidmaskew All I want is a 920XT with better GNSS and better battery. No optical HR, no fancy stats based off incorrect sleep data, no mapping. Would be perfect, but there's sadly no market for it. I have a 955 now and use none of the new features that it has over the 920.
@davidmaskew Жыл бұрын
@@NoxiousNoodles I'm looking at maybe a 955/965 now. I mostly cycle (MTB) and hike now (my knees can't handle running now 😂) and although I have a Garmin bike computer already I'd like to have the maps as a backup. I'm actually a fan of the older non Amoled screen type and battery life. Although the resolution of the new screen looks good for maps I'm not planning on using the maps too much.
@NoxiousNoodles Жыл бұрын
@@davidmaskew AMOLED is a downside for me due to worse battery life. I have a paper map so don't need one on my watch (and fell races ban using them for such anyways). 955 is a bloody great watch still, just far far more than what 99.9999999999% of people (including me) need, and with crap sleep tracking.
@davidmaskew Жыл бұрын
@@NoxiousNoodles Yeah, they are saying the Amoled isn't that much worse battery life in some reviews I've looked at but I can't see how that's the case. I also don't like the brightness of Amoled at night and imagine I would end up with it on its lowest setting. I like my lights on the trail not in my face 😂
@michaelnicholas9550 Жыл бұрын
Which one track's your heart rate the best that's the main thing I care about since I have a heart disease I just wanna know at all times how fast it's beating then have a overall layout of how my body is reacting to the changes
@showzeki2 жыл бұрын
Think the new 255 from garmin or the fenix 7s has the best of both small enough to sleep in(for me anyway) plus all the lifestyle data The 7x is way to big imo +hrv and recovery are coming to the fenix in the next update Tho whoop plus a nice normal watch is also a good combo
@CoachFletch72 жыл бұрын
Would the vivosmart 5 work similar to the whoop band? To keep it all in the Garmin interface
@ImPewPew42 жыл бұрын
Is the whoop recovery and hrv/sleep useful for weightlifting? I dont run but lift and do calisthenics and wanted to see if the recovery aspect of whoop are any use for these activities. I know that these activities give low strain scores since they are not high on HR, but is hrv and recovery any use for these activities on the whoop?
@dredgmo Жыл бұрын
Late comment I know, but Whoop JUST added a musculoskeletal strain tracker specifically for weights training AND added workout tracking (similar to Jefit).
@cjn802 жыл бұрын
Hey! I currently use the Whoop 4.0 with my iPhone 13 Pro … I always close out all apps when not in use, with this said - how much will that affect my tracking if the Whoop app isn’t open and running in the background 24/7?!
@casSand1711 ай бұрын
When you do open the whoop app again, the data will need to catch up and can take a while depending on how long you haven’t used the whoop app! I would say just keep it open, you do get used to it
@thomasdraxler81672 жыл бұрын
Would love to bring my sleep data from whoop to Garmin. Anybody knows how ?
@CodyBunker2 жыл бұрын
Pretty dope way to use them. I found the woop bit pretty interesting. I have considered it before but didn't know much about it. I've been using a garmin instinct for a few months now and have found it to be pretty great. It was pretty cheap because the instinct 2 came out. I only wear it during the day but the body battery feature seems to help a ton along with the stress monitoring. I do love the Fenix but honestly it is just rocket science to me. I think I might upgrade to the instinct 2 because I like the one I have so much. It does all the stuff I personally need without confusing me. Lol. All in all I think most the tech out there is pretty amazing.
@ferguscrawley952 жыл бұрын
Main thing is finding whatever ticks the boxes for you! When I did use the Garmin for sleep tracking I found it to be highly unreliable, whereas I find Whoop much better + all the other things I mentioned. Tech is amazing, it's just difficult to know exactly what makes most sense for the individual!
@waltersjonathan Жыл бұрын
Key for you I think is that you don’t choose to wear the Fenix 24/7 or use a Garmin bike computer and so have to have something to measure all the time. So I’ll save the money and stick to Garmin. But do agree that in your case, Whoop just makes sense, and also that Garmin probably need to do a better job is syncing everything up between their own devices - physio trueup doesn’t cover every metric apparently.
@deimantelipciuk6 ай бұрын
Time stamps would be great 👍
@MrBadappleseed Жыл бұрын
What's with this wiggling camera action. Do you have some random roommate recording you by hand. Have you heard of a tripod... Will help with smooth panning.
@mikerenshaw78672 жыл бұрын
Sturdy review dude.
@ferguscrawley952 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir!
@jackdriver10 Жыл бұрын
There are different size Garmin fenix you can choose from….
@Lord_Swoledemort2 жыл бұрын
10:35 exactly. Whoop will be redundant if Garmin do this.
@NickBEADG Жыл бұрын
7x is THE biggest Garmin device they make, there's much smaller. I have no issues wearing mine too bed because i have man sized wrists.
@eduh79507 ай бұрын
You get a month free with or without a code :p
@noel85528 ай бұрын
god tier review
@justanotherdude8145 Жыл бұрын
How does whoop understand when I go to sleep? Does it check the HR or it gives for granted I will go to sleep at a certain hour? I am a shift worker and night shifts start at 2200 and should finish at 0700 but sometimes are even longer. How does that work then? I’m considering to get one to track these factors predominantly, because shift work throws your circadian circle off the window.
@RealCopsReelLife Жыл бұрын
Tactix is top of the heap
@edvardcock47243 ай бұрын
Takk!
@milesaway55332 жыл бұрын
Comparing the 7x vs a band…. Hope you get your percentage from whoop. Jezzz
@ferguscrawley952 жыл бұрын
Had 50+ DMs I’ve had asking which one they should use. People too often view them as interchangeable - and this clearly stated that isn’t the case (for their benefit)! If you already know the differences then this probably wasn’t the video for you was it 🤷♂️
@craigscott58052 жыл бұрын
I was wondering what your prep for this video looked like? I think you might have saved a lot of time/repeating yourself with a bit more planning. This would make it easier for a viewer to get the key takeaways. Just what I needed though, I'm looking at getting a watch or other wearable soon.
@oldtin826 ай бұрын
buys the biggest fenix 7 they make and complains it's to big🤔
@alexeinazario8677 Жыл бұрын
you do take it off? shower/bathing...
@paulsenrichard Жыл бұрын
Stinks of an affiliate marketing exercise
@stueyd2 жыл бұрын
What's the nice 'adult' watch? Just being nosey as a WIS
@ferguscrawley952 жыл бұрын
Tudor Pelagos my man!
@stueyd2 жыл бұрын
Stonking watch
@richardcharleston25473 ай бұрын
This video was fantastic, but you repeated yourself about a million times 😂
@SuperNagz2 жыл бұрын
It’s 2022. I would 100% “wear” embedded tech for constant, non-wearable, unobtrusive tracking. I don’t care if I have a chip in my neck and the government can see my every move. If it’s in me, it’s not on me. Man, even stick it in my pectoral so hr data is even more slick. Zero fucks. Link it to a simple watch display or HUD display in a pair of sunnies or a screen on a bike or a fancy pair of goggles, sorted!!!! Come on Elon, get it done :)
@Reznik882 ай бұрын
Stopped watching as soon as you pulled sumo 😂
@SuperNagz2 жыл бұрын
Get a Coros
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