Yes it is. My late grandma retired on a medical from Sterling Stamping in 1986. One of the best press operators they had back then.

What's funny is before when they had thousands working there the cars and trucks cost less. Now they have fewer workers and the cars cost more.

@@dougattube thanks to government involvement & legacy costs

With Chrysler at least, most human jobs seem to be geared towards QC.

@@dougattube got very little to do with us workers. People today need every dumbass gadget in their cars now. Most can't even back a car up without a camera. Then people said stereos aren't good enough. Nope, I need a 37 inch plasma infotainment system that can scratch my ass for me. Add in the fuel economy regulations, and a whole host of other stuff, and it's not hard to see why cars cost what they cost.

Of what?

Why does it take such a powerful machine to stamp that thin sheet metal? Is it because the tight edges require significantly more effort?

@@MuffinMan0521 Bending a flat piece of sheet metal in one axis isn't difficult. Bending that same piece in three axis’ at the time requires exponentially more force. Grab a cheap metal spoon from your kitchen. You can easily bend the flat handle area. Now, try to bend the ‘business end’. You probably can’t even move it. Multiply that by several thousand and you’ll have an idea just how much force is involved.

When it opened in 1965, at 2.74 million square feet it was billed as the largest single floor plant in the country. I still have some ashtrays that were stamped there from an open house.

@@Pro1er ...And, at the time, 'largest in the country' meant 'largest in the world'. Japan and Korea and most of Europe had yet to catch up. The Ford-Woodhaven plant was considered it's 'sister' plant made around the same time with the same basic layout. There's another 20 feet below the floor where the scraps fall through the presses onto large conveyors and out of the building. It's an amazing place.

@@48306jw Yeah, I'm pretty sure they said that it was the largest in the world but I can't remember because that was over 50 years ago.

Got to cover the costs for the dies, press, robots and the workers, as well.

Doesn't stop them from drinking. I lived right across the street from the Warren stamping plant and the workers would be at the liquor store buying booze and smoking weed on their lunch break all the time. The engineers at Fiat Chrysler should be commended for engineering such safe processes for these dirtbags.

That press is about $100,000,000

Making die in line to produce the part like in the video takes about a year depends on the die. Some tools gets into line in a month, 3 months etc. , It almost works for 10-15 years, also depends on the part needed. This die making period of time includes the part feasiblity tests, die designs, workshop and press adaptations.

I work at a stamping factory in South Carolina and we have a job that’s been with us for over 13 years and it’s still going. When we get new jobs in it can take several months before everything is correct. Some jobs we put in and it’s flawless after the first time or two. We’ve even crashed a job so bad it completely destroyed the one of the operation and it took nearly 2 weeks to rebuild that die. Granted we are a transfer press so our dies are like a quarter of the ones in this video. With proper care they can last forever

@@lisacarol3168 How much do you think it costs to make one of those dies?

MuffinMan0521 depending on size but maybe $150.000 for one die. Could be more tho. Ours we have 3 to 5 dies for one job.

Work at a stamping/assembly plant in Kentucky, just recently pulled a die out of storage that we ran from 2003-2011, ran it again last month for limited run service parts

I worked in bap stamping for the last 3 years before I retired. Great group of people who worked there.

Michael Davis What an arrogant and condescending thing to say. What brain testing occupation do you have?

I didn't say anything about having a awesome job that test my brain all day. I'm in manufacturing also but luckily I get to do many different task throughout the day. I have had jobs like the ones showed were you are doing the same mundane, boring, repetitive job all day long and I wanted to kill myself so therefore I have the experience in life to were I can watch a video, see everybody with the same look of boredom and see the task and know that it sucks. I'm pretty sure there are studies done on the effects of repetitive task on the mind and body so if you want somebody else's opinion look it up.

@@MichaelDavis-zf6nt Not necessary. The FCA stamping facility in Sterling Heights uses a rotation schedule once employees are qualified at each work station. It is a voluntary program intended to add flexibility for the company and provide a change of scenery for employees. We have a similar program at the GM Poletown Assembly plant where I work. The funny thing is that a lot of employees choose to stay only at one work station even though floating adds up to $3.00 to the hourly wage. At the end of the day plant work is boring but a hell of a lot better than when I first started in the early eighties.

With electric vehicles coming, I'm thinking they'll become equals within their own markets..

That whole plant can be automated.

You people aren’t going to be happy until every American is waiting tables or washing dishes.

@@RGD0756 I work for FCA at their Jefferson North plant. Automation ain't all that, I can tell you.

@ I work in the manufacturing plant of a well known, Maine based retailer. We have some automation, but I often wonder if the amount of downtime and waiting for parts and technicians from Europe is really worth it. The problem with parts and supplies is not so much getting them from Europe to here as waiting for them to get through customs once they get here, and that can take weeks. I can think of one perfect example - the machines we use for putting eyelets in boots. We have some American made ones whose design goes back to 1937, and they are rarely down. But the Italian made ones rarely run. I could give many other examples, but I think you get the point.

@@RGD0756 absolutely my friend. I'm an electrician at an assembly plant. Only been here close to 2 years. Before that I worked in a coal fired power plant, did some commercial work, then got into automotive. I scratch my head at some of the things we do. The downtime here gets compounded by the fact we rarely have any time to do maintenance and preventative maintenance on our particular line. It sucks for someone like me who is still wet behind the ears when it comes to automation because I'll get some weird fault, won't know what the hell to do to clear it, then nobody knows what's going on and can't point me in the right direction. I'll ask what caused it and nobody will know. I definitely see the advantages of automation, but people like you and me who actually work with it, know just what a royal pain it really is.

They do at my job.

They don't at mine. If you're on press, you're on that press until someone else quits or they need you somewhere else. If you're in assembly, well, have fun putting parts on a fixture for a robot all day long for the next 5-10 years

Nope. GM does it the same way. Maybe someone has done it, I don't know. But you would have to locate the racks in the same position every time, the racks would have to be mastered, the robot would have to account for the stack as it grows, and you would have to find fork truck drivers who don't moonlight as demolition derby drivers on the weekend. Oh, and then there's constantly repairing the dunnage (from the drivers who moonlight) so the sensors will pick them up properly. And dings, scratches, and dents are not acceptable. Not only will it affect your "fit-n-finish" in the Body shop, but it will tend to piss off the Paint shop boys when they have to repair each job that comes out of Body.

@Waterlec No argument there, we had insane clown drivers as well. But I was talking about stacking the parts in the racks. They could use AGVs to haul them off I suppose, but they have their own issues.

@gblueslover2 I'm an old tradesman myself (electrician), but I transitioned over to engineering back in the 80's, long before I went to work for Saturn. So I know what you are talking about. :) I'm "retired" from GM, but I like to work, so I'm hanging out at a HVAC plant at the moment. I kinda miss startups though...

@gblueslover2 Saturn Springhill? Yes, first as a contractor, and then as an engineer in GA. I left in '09 and came back in Paint in '12. But I really served as their roving (some would say raving) engineer, covering all of the business units except Powertrain. But I've worked at Shreveport, Lorraine, Linden, Bramalea, Canton, Symrna, Ford and GM in KC, and Lake Orion. Saturn was by far the best... :)

Waterlec my dad was forced into retirement in 1981 when a hilo driver rammed my dad’s train and broke my dad’s back. The idiot ran a stop signal.

Usually the upper and bottom die shoes are molded from cast iron. These will come into a die shop as very rough with no machined surfaces. These will then be put up onto a CNC machine with the bottom flat part being skimmed from a cutting tool. This will act as a datum so all the other pockets and surfaces can be machined accurately. A tool and die maker will then deburr the machined casting and start fitting all the various punches, wear plates, die steels, strippers, pressure pads, nitro, and other components. The die will then go for a lead check in the press to maker sure it is hitting at material thickness. The die maker will then take the die into press to make sure the die runs smoothly, spotting the part in and ultimately get a part that passes on the check fixture.

@@TheInceptum So does the die maker have a full sized stamping press at their premise to do test runs on panels?

@@bobolulu7615 In most cases, yes. The toolroom would coordinate with the press shop about scheduling a press for die trials away from production or in some cases if the die shop does not do production but instead does new build dies they will have a "spotting press" for trials.

@@bobolulu7615 Yes! The tool and die maker company has to have the same kind of large presses. But there is no automation needet to do the spotting and try out at the toon shop. The final spotting / adjusting is required on the production press line to receive the required surface quality. A lot of the equipment to build these kind of dies is very large and heavy. Large CNC milling machines (about 18 foot machine bed) cranes up to 80.000 lbs lifting capacity. But there are also a lot of smaller parts in the die they been produced on smaller CNC milling machines like trim steels bending steels or post form inserts. All these parts are assembled later together with parts purchased from special manufactors like nitrogen gas springs, self-lubricating wear plates, guiding post / bushings, standard piercing punches / retainers or cams. The total time to build a side panel die set ( usually 6 or 7 include the blanking dies )from scratch to finished and accepted by the customer is about a year or more. A good build side panel die set will run 10 parts a minute without any scrap parts.

@@bobolulu7615 Yes, A number of them.

You would think this is impressive, but the thing is, the Honda plant in Marysvill Ohio was doing all of this and more way back in 1990. At the time it took Chrysler Sterling 24 hours to Chang over to run a new part in a press line.

stamping is also very import

Rebot can't think idiots.

Not yet, but give them time... there is one thing they can do better than Edward Martinez... they can spell correctly... idiot.

@@grumpusmaximus9446 The thought of working on an assembly line would give me nightmares, so it's hard to blame them for not being very thrilled. What's odd is, taking a part off a belt and hanging it on a rack seems like a perfect job for a robot, I wonder why they have people doing it?

@@bigredc222 simple reply? unions

If they had to work on the assembly line they'd be kissing every panel they pull.

It's about that speed and we get frequent breaks

@@SuperBaconNinja Frequent breaks my ass lmao you must not be in Chassis

At Tesla it’s way more fast paced.

@@melseven5294 Don't look like to to me and I worked in a stamping plant for almost 40 years.

@@melseven5294 It is only running about 9 parts per minute. I remember hand loading presses we ran 10 parts per minute.

The automation and updated processes also make the workplace tremendously safer compared to the 1930's. It's not always about replacing humans for profit alone. Stamping, done wrong, can be incredibly dangerous.

How TF did they let a split get into the demo reel? Bad batches can shut the plants down for hours!

@@walter.s.dempsey Walter, the Pb die is pulling slugs. Very well, that occurs occasionally and when the problem is detected either by fault in transfer or by the ones racking the parts then it is dealt with. The real problem here are the workers racking the parts. Check out the guy at the 2:00 mark. He's not even looking at the parts. Totally uninterested as well as the guy in camo just after him. This video should be an absolute embarrassment to this plant and watch the racking process of this comically large exit conveyor and tell me if ANYONE is checking the underside of these panels for defects? This is why at least that plant is "shut down for hours." BTW, I work for a foreign automaker in a Stamping plant and just watching this video alone tells me enough to know why these transplants have run circles around the domestics.

@@TheSunkenGrave I worked for GM at a stamping operation and even the slightest fucking split would sound the siren call of many F bombs on the racking line. This video is damn near a cringe compilation for me, as that sort of thing I wouldve hit the E stop let alone the cycle stop to put an end to this line. It would have ended up in the scrap pile, not even worth salvaging at the metal finishing department. Worthless. Yet they let these splits through. Me and my work partner would be sniffing out any sort of stress lines or cracks let alone full blown splits like that. I am fucking mad at this video. This is a demo reel of sadness. We would have a clockwise gaze inspection at each part, where we would circle with our eyes in protective gear the perimeter for defects, and have a scuff pad in our left hand to search for mounds where little dust particles may have had their place in the die. This is pathetic as hell and I would never buy from Chrysler. Careless. You can get many discounts by looking for these sort of dust mound defects at the dealer by pointing out these defects to the salesman and getting like $600 knocked off and driving off with a decent car however, just never buy a car with splits.

That is not a split. The panel hadn't even got through the next few dies yet. 🤦🤣🤣

@@melseven5294 thats for sure a split lol

Many years ago destinations fees were the actually costs of bringing the car from the plant to the dealer. It was common for people to go to Detroit and drive their new cars home to save money. Then congress passed a law that destination charges had to be the same everywhere in the country. My last new car I got from a dealer directly across the street from the plant it was built in, destination charges are the same as if I bought it in Hawaii.

@@forddon Figures congress had something to do with this. I should have known. Regulations from Washington only make our lives worse over time.

@@CarStory Funny thing is that the steel industry used to have something called the "three rivers plan" that equalized shipping costs across the country...The government sued the steelmakers to force them to charge based on actual distance...suddenly Japanese steel became cheaper for west coast buyers.

I worked at this plant from 10/18/66. To 05/28/2002. I honestly never had an issue with any Hilo driver. I had to work with them to load steel blanks at the front of the press line, and work with another Hilo driver to take full racks and full boxes out from the back of the line. Never had a problem with any Hilo driver. I worked my last seven years as a floor man. And I loved that job, had a great foreman, and all the people on both press lines were very easy to work with. And I am very proud of making my living at this plant.

Uh my guy, do you think these things never fail??? On a bad night at my plant I can be clearing upwards of 50 faults. That's not including having to repair shit that fails during production.

@@chuckdomanski5828 Good job!

That's all there design schedules

Theyre wearing kevlar sleeves, earplugs, and thick gloves.

They can. Why they stack them by hand I have no idea.

For what?

Indica eu lá? Te pago. É sério.

@@northpole9251 infelizmente não estão dando cartas de indicação só agência.

it's the inspection of the parts that makes the humans necessary.

It would be recycled.

They had that 17 years ago when I retired.

It is. They supply my plant, Jefferson North.

You sound like you sit at a desk and stare at a screen all day. Pathetic.

And what do you do that takes so much skill?

Brother submit your resume to FCA. We're hiring.

LMAO!!! My guy I'm an electrician for FCA at Jefferson North. Those robots fuck up more times than I care to count.

BS

Sorry but they don't think or make $50/hr

The speed is low because if the speed is high then a miss stock may occur

No, now we want to blow China up.

Has been about .030" since the 60s. Extra weight would do nothing but wreck gas mileage

@@georgenasrallah9410 ' hi G N... no matter what drinking gasoline... add extra gear speeding to save gas... do real matter is a safe person life / less repair auto body shop

The metal is pretty flimsy in body shops in assembly plants too but once paint is applied and bracing the metal is very sturdy

Huh? It's been a while since I've looked through the NHTSA database, but robots weren't usually the problem.

And you base your posting on what? Data? Opinion? Bias?

Yep, I always buy Japanese. Most of our American cars are ugly. The Mustang is an abomination. The Camaro and Challenger are pretty cool looking though.

Guess where most honda and toyotas are built...

@@ChadMc74 Pretty certain at your moms house.

We'll move to Japan then bitch. We don't need your kind in America